Educational Policies & Curriculum Committee
Minutes for October 15, 2013 - Meeting #19
3:30 p.m. – MHB-315
Members in Attendance: Deborah Thien (GEO), Danny Paskin (JOUR), Kris Zentgraf (SOC), Jason
Whitehead (POSC), Teri Yamada (ASAM), Karen Quintilliani (ANTH), Gabriel Estrada (RST), Dave Whitney
(PSY), Jeffrey Blutinger (MJS); and Cherie Dougan (CLA).
Guests in Attendance: Carl Fisher (CWL/CLSC); Paul Scotton (CWL/CLSC); Douglas Domingo-Foraste
(CWL/CLASC); Mark Sugars (CWL/CLASC).
Meeting called to order by Deborah at 3:35 PM.
1. Approval of EPCC #18 minutes of October 8, 2013
Approved.
2. Announcements/Revisions
Thanks for the committee’s hard work meeting every week.
3. New Business
A. CWL / CLSC Department
 Paul: Already being taught as special topics
 Teri: all course SCOs need suggested breakdown of percentages of assessments
 Dave: Overall question about conflict with archaeology
o Karen: Archaeology agrees that this is fine – minimal overlap; will discuss future
cooperation between departments on how to further enhance student learning
o Paul: Covered in survey courses in both depts. But not enough detail.
 Karen: clarification that courses can still be approved with justification language related to
option that has not yet been approved.
o Carl: still valuable for the department
o Cherie: should take out language from all syllabi since the program change is
pending
1) CLSC 450: New Course; Aegean Bronze Age Archaeology 3 units at C2
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Teri: assessment – need percentages in the SCO, not just the sample syllabus
o Deborah: especially in light of University policy that no assignment be worth more than
1/3
Approved with change to methods of assessment.
2) CLSC 460: New Course; Etruscan Archaeology. 3 units at C2
Approved with change to methods of assessment.
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CLSC 470: New Course; Monuments of Athens. 3 units at C2
Jeff: methods of instruction is the same language as 460 – cut and paste
Jeff: methods of instruction is the same language as 460
Paul: this is one of the “bread and butter” courses in any Classics program
Jeff: conflict with history course?
o Paul: focus on material record rather than historical record; evolution of urban
landscape, etc.
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Deborah: informal precedent that we have a letter from history indicating their agreement
Approved with edit, pending letter from history.
4) CLSC 480: New Course; Monuments of Rome. 3 units at C2
 Jeff: methods of instruction is the same language as 460 – cut and paste
Approved with edit, pending letter from history.
5) Bachelor of Arts in Classics, Option in Roman Civilization. Request new title ‘ Option in
Latin and Roman Civilization’; increase required units from 41-43 to 45; increase UD from
12 to 15, add Intermed. Latin 301, reduce and divide the ‘take 12 units’ into ‘take 3’ and ‘
take 6’ categories, add and remove courses from the Antiquity section.
 Doug: more accurate nomenclature; Latin was already taught; 41-43 units created lots of
practical problems; other language makes the requirements clearer.
 Cherie: e-mailed Cecile – if she thinks the change to the title change is small enough, she will
let us know; otherwise, there’s another form.
 Cherie: changing information item 5 – “take 6 units in the following” – need to add: “may not
double-count above courses” and sign.
Approved, except title change pending approval from Cecile Lindsey
6) Bachelor of Arts in Classics, Option in Greek Civilization. Request new title ‘Option in
Greek and Greek Civilization’; reduce units from 43 to 40; ‘take 12 units’ broken into ‘take
3’ and ‘take 6’ adding and removing classes; courses added and removed from the ‘take
8 units’ category.
 Jeff: clarification about new name crossed out by Cherie on form
 Doug: mostly cleanup, but CLSC is fighting to keep teaching Greek; getting rid of intermediate
courses and consolidating a few Greek students in fewer courses
Approved, except title change pending approval from Cecile Lindsey
7) New Degree: Bachelor of Arts in Classics, Option in Classical Archaeology.
 Paul: lots of student interest for a while but no designated option that fits their needs –
especially those who want to go on to a graduate program in this field; need documentation that
they are “credentialed” in knowledge of the classical world; need different background courses;
 Doug: also want a way for those who are interested in archaeology but not as strong in
language; every other CLSC program in the nation has a “language lite” option; stronger on
material information rather than written documents
 Paul: first thing a grad program will look at is the name of the program that comes with
implication that language capability is there.
 Deborah: all of the above comments should be in the justification – stronger than the justification
actually provided; Mark and Dean Wallace also want a stronger, more elaborate justification;
Dean Wallace wants to see it again before the process is finished.
 Jeff: language requirements seem contradictory – “language lite” will increase enrollments but
then the credential for graduate school will not have the language they need;
o Doug: grad schools just require a minimum threshold
o Paul: intent was to set it up for those who don’t want more language but others who
need it for grad school encouraged to do more
o Teri: AAAS does something similar
 Dave: concern that Paul is the only classical archaeologist
o Doug: there is one lecturer, but Paul is the only tenured professor; courses taught on a
rotating basis
o Clarification that juniors can take 400-level courses
o Paul: mix of advanced undergrads and grads
o Doug: no desire to create a grad program
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Danny: 15 units from 1 professor could create problems for students
 Doug: in a pinch, someone else could cover; 110 is staffed
 Carl: many of the courses can be taken concurrently
Kris:
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Justification section – choose words more carefully; language seems to undercut your
own language requirements
o Clarification about how many students are in the courses
 Doug: 12-14
 Deborah: demonstration of student demand will be more persuasive
 Paul: this change will actually draw more students
Karen: concerned why there hasn’t been a discussion with ANTH; e.g., courses that students
should take across the college; agree about the content of the courses, but need more
conversation to make sure students can choose wisely
o Doug: clarification how we would make this more clear
o Karen: the departments should discuss this to figure it out
o Paul: the catalog entries are sufficient to distinguish the course; don’t see possibility of
confusion
o Deborah: informal precedent that other relevant departments (ANTH) file a letter
agreeing with the proposal
Dave: surprised that there are no required ANTH courses; might help enrollments in both
departments and clarify for students
o Doug: there is really nothing complementary; not very helpful to take together; some
ANTH courses were originally in the program, but taken out; conversation with ANTH will
help show this
o Paul: have told some students they should take some of the practical courses offered in
ANTH
o Karen: some ANTH courses could help students contextualize what they will learn in
CLSC courses
o Kris: spell out the difference from ANTH in the justification and learning objectives
sections
Tabled pending enhanced justification, demonstrated student demand, evidence of support from ANTH,
leading to Dean’s support letter.
Danny took over as chair at this point.
8) CWL 210: New Course; Erotica, Love, Romance: Literary and Cultural Representations. 3
units at C4. (Review GE at future meeting.)
 Hard to get students to study what they consume; this kind of genre course can really help
 Danny: need to use new GE forms
o Cherie: link on CLA website
o Jeff: GEGC demanding more skills, but unsure how many “secondary” skills they
want since they aren’t required any more
 Teri: instructional policies – assignments and grading – add “2” in front of “out of class
essays”
 Dave: 13-units GE foundation requirement may be too high a prerequisite
o Carl: want students who are more mature and have more experience in the
classroom; but don’t want to exclude other students
o Cherie: change to completion of certain categories
 Carl: could change to written communication and another category
 Jeff: clarification about how much class time is used for film viewing
o Carl: can clarify that they are only excerpts
 Gabriel: order of weeks -- weeks 8, 10, and 11 missing
Approved with edits.
9) CWL 300: New Course; Cultures in Conflict: Literature in the Global World. 3 units at C4
(Review GE at future meeting.)
 Carl: need for writing intensive courses and CLA should be the prime mover; need many
more; most of the unemployed Ph.D.s on the market as lecturers have extensive experience
teaching writing;
 Danny: from student’s perspective, catalog description unclear and ambiguous
o Carl: wanted to be compliant with examples on GE website, that are very broad like
this one; more specific descriptions can have the opposite effect; students can make
their own decisions
 Kris: the course seems more like research methods, but that’s not reflected in the title and
description
o Carl: small department without a methodology course; so decided to include it in this
course; these methods are basic expectations in the departments
o Kris: the SCO doesn’t quite match the advertising on the title/description, but it’s up
to the department
 Dave: sample syllabus – misc. information – language is “too nice”
o #2: asked to withdraw
o #5: plagiarism should be avoided
 Teri: should some secondary boxes be checked on the GE form?
o Carl: secondary skills are often primary in other disciplines; and things that are
almost always included
o Teri: may still want to ask GEGC
 Teri: Measurable student learning outcomes, add interdisciplinary
 Karen: title may be too long; is it geared toward just majors or other students?
o Carl: geared toward all students; wanted to include literature but the course is mostly
cultural
o Karen: seems to students like 3 different courses
o Kris: transpose title – put what is now after colon before
 Teri: 9B – need percentages
 Kris/Teri: feels like too much for the student for one semester – weekly writing instruction,
research methods, substantive content
o Carl: meant to be selective readings; each instructor can select based on how much
they feel the student can read; may want to emphasize this in conversations with
professors who teach
 Gabriel: title change will result in change to short title as well
Approved with edits and changes.
10) CWL 305: New Course; Science Fiction and Global Technologies 3 units at C4 (Review
GE at future meeting.)
 Carl: same justification as above – genre course; spoke with deans and dept. heads in other
colleges who think their students will want this course.
 Teri: intercultural knowledge checked twice
 Jeff: suggestion for another novel/subject that would work within this framework
o Carl: adding to the list of topics and readings all the time
 Kris: final grade needs to be 2/3 writing – unclear that this is met in the assessments –
seems like less than half
o Dave: also include feedback and revision
 Teri: add writing education book in bibliography
 Danny/Jeff: clarification about the relationship between some of these works and science
fiction
Approved with edits and changes.
4. Adjourned at 5:11. 