We begin our discussion with the understanding that the universe does exist!! The Universe Exists Was there a beginning? YES -There was a No beginning beginning -impossible since it exists -impossible since everything in universe has beginning -if universe is eternal then it would have run out of energy long ago - True Was the Universe Caused? The Universe wan not Caused -impossible since everything is caused YES - It was Caused - True What was the Cause? A random directionless force Impossible just like: A) Can shaking the parts of a watch put the watch together? No. B) Can a tornado build a house when it hits a lumber yard? Never. YES - A Personal Agent - True What is this Agent like? Limited to Universe YES - Separate from Universe - This would make the universe self existent -worship creation or of things in creation is idol worship -here god is found in things, nature, animals -many religions make it this far, but fail to see the true holy God. Idol Religions are Illogical - True. This Creator would be: 1) intelligent 2) powerful 3) timeless 4) capable of choice 5) immaterial 6) causeless Three religions have a Logical God: 1. Buddhism 1. Islam 2. Hinduism 2. Judaism 3. Ancient Religions 3. Christianity - the only true and complete revelation from God. http://www.generationword.com