Norm Riley
9/19/2008
9211 Oakdale Avenue
Chatsworth, CA 91311
(Via U.S. Mail and E-mail)
Dear Mr. Riley,
First off, I would like to thank you for you recent letter to the
Department of Energy.
I now received your letter and found it very troubling. The transparency that we have seen in the past with the Department of
Toxics Substance Control (DTSC) is fading.
I realize you are working on numerous avenues of the Santa Susana
Field Laboratory on and offsite including the highly anticipated answer to Dayton Canyon’s No Further Action (NFA) decision. What I don’t realize or understand why is that in your past few correspondences with me have been accusations of me spouting false data.
You state… Regarding your concerns about perchlorate and other contaminants migrating downstream from the current cleanup site: (1) there is no established link whatsoever between perchlorate at SSFL and perchlorate in Simi Valley to the north; (2) the northern drainage is not a "perchlorate pathway;"
I have data to back up everything I say, most of it is found on YOUR website… http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/SiteCleanup/Projects/upload/SSFL_FS_Perc-
Update.pdf
In case the link does not work or you order I.T. to delete it, I have attached it. Please find the 2003 Perchlorate found in the
“Northern Drainage” fed bathtub well at the Brandeis-Bardin Campus at American Jewish University.

Just because the University settled with the Boeing Company for millions, does not mean it did not happen.
You also state… There is no evidence which indicates that Sage Ranch is unsafe or that persons living down gradient of the park are or were endangered in any way related to the presence of the igniters or other debris uncovered at Sage Ranch.
Is the Perchlorate found in the “Northern Drainage” not a danger to the persons living downgradient?
What I find ridiculous is you are arguing with me over the term
“Hundreds”. They found over the count of 100. This is what was said to the public on the Boeing Company tour of Sage Ranch. You say
Tomato, I say Avacado. Let’s both agree the findings are large, astonishing and a crime. We want and requested an accurate number.
The other thing that DTSC has been doing a lot this past month, is passing the buck. You state… Your request for records related to the sampling of the ranch debris already removed by the SMMC should be directed to the SMMC.
As you noticed I cc’d them in my original e-mail to Susan Callery that you took the liberty to respond to. It goes beyond that, the original request was to DTSC and we did a site visit. I was told the results would be available to me upon DTSC’s receipt of them. You are the agency that took this complaint I expect a follow up that is detrimental in this time of discovering more pollution on the Santa
Monica Mountains Conservancy parkland of Sage Ranch.
This issue should not be taken lightly and the public should be alerted to the “Real Dangers” they are facing and not just “Sugar
Coat” this as “Fireworks”.
Everything used, dumped and subsequently found at the Santa Monica
Mountains Conservancy parkland of Sage Ranch causes CANCER.
I suggest you read the book, “Cancers in the Urban Environment” by
Thomas Mack, How rare it is to find Cancers around a Nuclear
Facility such as the Santa Susana Field Laboratory. http://www.amazon.com/Cancers-Urban-Environment-Thomas-
Mack/dp/0124643515/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221861332&sr=8-1
I request you take action in the first request to the DTSC through
Susan Callery in the letter from ACME dated on September 17 th , 2008.

Again, this is an urgent matter and should be treated that way.
Despite having been illegally dumped and buried years ago, the illegal dumping of explosives was and is still considered a crime.
I look forward to your immediate action on this issue.
William Preston Bowling - Founder/Director
ACME (Aerospace Cancer Museum of Education) williamprestonbowling@yahoo.com
310.428.5085 http://www.ACMEla.org
23350 Lake Manor Drive
Chatsworth, California
91311
Bill,
Thank you for sharing your concerns and thank you also for your request that DTSC immediately investigate the entire Sage Ranch property using historical data and photographs to properly identify areas of concern and clean them up to EPA standards. It is clear from your note that
you are particularly concerned about the recent discovery of electrically-initiated solid propellent igniters used to power missile components or ignite rocket motors, and also about the potential for perchlorate and other contaminants to affect property owners living downstream of the remediated portions of the Sage Ranch Park. There
is no evidence which indicates that Sage Ranch is unsafe or that persons living down gradient of the park are or were endangered in any way related to the presence of the igniters or other debris uncovered at
Sage Ranch.
The igniters found to date do not number in the "hundreds" as you stated in your note. During a conversation with Boeing yesterday I was informed that approximately 100 igniters have been found to date. In his August 25, 2008 assessment of the igniters (see the attached
letter)
Mr. Anderson notes that the igniters are class "C" explosives ...
"equivalent to small fireworks similar to small bottle-rocket motors.
The majority of the igniters and end components are less than one inch in diameter and 3 inches in length (se photo). The igniters are designed to produce gas and not explode." Mr. Anderson goes on to state several reasons why the igniters "did not at any time expose the public to any appreciable hazard." DTSC concurs with that assessment.
We agree with you that the discovery of the igniters and other debris

at the former shooting range site combined with the earlier discovery
of the LOX waste to the east is sufficient to warrant a careful assessment of areas surrounding the SSFL to determine whether other locations may have been used for waste disposal. With that concern in mind, Boeing
is performing an extensive review of aerial photographs and other records, and I will be meeting with them in the near future to discuss this
issue in greater detail. In the meantime, extensive site-wide debris surveys and reviews of historical aerial photos (and historical documents) for the entire SSFL, including the buffer zones, are being conducted as
part of the ongoing RFI work to try and identify potential subsurface
debris.
If you take a look at our Group 6 comments and our Group 4 comments which will soon be published, you'll see that we alert Boeing and its partners of the need for action in certain potential debris areas.
Regarding your concerns about perchlorate and other contaminants migrating downstream from the current cleanup site: (1) there is no established link whatsoever between perchlorate at SSFL and perchlorate in Simi Valley to the north; (2) the northern drainage is not a
"perchlorate pathway;" (3) perchlorate was not a contaminant observed
in the LOX debris removed from the stream bed channel late last year under the ISE Order issued by DTSC; and (4) perchlorate has not been detected in soils from the area currently undergoing remediation (the first results from DTSC's laboratory are attached for your information; additional results from both DTSC and Boeing are forthcoming). The chief contaminants in the LOX debris were asbestos and antimony, and some polynuclear/polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons associated with the clay pigeon fragments. Boeing has done a good job of removing those materials from the drainage channel. The igniters have been removed
and soils associated with the excavated debris have been tested for perchlorate (see the attached reports). The test results so far are negative for perchlorate. We have no reason at this point to suspect that perchlorate will be carried down the steam channel with winter rains. As you know, the LOX debris has been removed from the original footprint area. The removal of clay pigeon fragments from the downstream channel is addressed in the workplan which is currently
being implemented.
Your request for records related to the sampling of the ranch debris already removed by the SMMC should be directed to the SMMC.
DTSC has taken extraordinary steps to assure that the public is kept informed of activities at the site. Our mission is to assure that public health and safety and the environment are protected and we are joined in that commitment by the LA Regional Water Quality Control

Board and by the SMMC, as well as State and local governmental agencies and elected representatives. We will continue to focus on our mission by assuring that the SSFL and surrounding properties are properly investigated and that remedial actions are implemented when and where necessary.
Thank you again for your note.
Norm
__________________ ps. A picture of some of the discovered igniters appears in the attached Word document. Here is some additional information for you about perchlorate:
In 2003, a total of 171 samples were collected from 79 locations in the
North Drainage over a distance of about 3-miles (including locations in the recently excavated areas). Of the 171 samples, 140 sediment
samples were collected and were non-detect, with the exception of one sample near the base of the Area I landfill. This sample had a reported concentration of 3.6 µg/L which was an estimated concentration as it
was below the laboratory reporting limit of 4 µg/L (also referred to a "J" flag). This location was resampled and the sample was non-detect for perchlorate. Fourteen (14) surface water samples, fifteen (15) spring samples, and two (2) rock chip samples were also collected and were all non-detect for perchlorate. This work was required by and directed by
DTSC in response to the detection of perchlorate in OS-9 on the
Brandeis-Bardin property. It should be also noted that two additional monitoring wells were installed onsite within the North Drainage and
one offsite multilevel well was installed adjacent to OS-9 (designated as
OS-9A) as part of this investigation effort. Subsequent sampling was non-detect for perchlorate for these wells, in addition to subsequent sampling of OS-9, where perchlorate was originally detected.
Susan Callery
9/17/2008
9211 Oakdale Avenue
Chatsworth, CA 91311
(Via U.S. Mail and E-mail)
Dear Ms. Callery,

I am writing you to express my concern and request immediate action on issues related to the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy parkland at Sage Ranch.
From the event the Boeing Company held today with concerned members of the public, Art Lenox (Boeing) informed the tour that they keep uncovering Un-spent or Unexploded igniters now numbering in the
Hundreds. These are Class ”C” explosives that contain Perchlorate and still have charges. I understand and appreciate that the Boeing
Company has gone to great lengths to properly secure the area by contracting Jeffrey D. Anderson from the EcoMunition Corporation to oversee the collection and examination of the Unexploded Ordinance
(UXO).
From the ongoing investigation of Groundwater as presented to us on this tour the pathways are still unknown. Now let’s get serious here…what we do know is Perchlorate has been found as far offsite as the 118 freeway in Simi Valley and as close as the adjacent property lines of Sage Ranch and the Brandeis-Bardin Campus at American
Jewish University. THIS NORTHERN DRAINAGE IS A PERCHLORATE PATHWAY as well as a pathway for other chemicals of concern. What is being done to alert the immediate property owners of gearing up for the seasonal rains? With the removal of approximately 900 cubic yards of soil, the water will come rushing down into the above mentioned areas at a rate they have not seen in years. This flow rate will carry with it contamination that would have laid dormant as well as the “Floating” antimony blocks that are commonly found in this debris area.
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The Boeing Company held up a map of Debris Piles on Sage Ranch and the NASA Lox area. This map indicated a debris pile that I pointed out to you and Laura Rainey, DTSC Geologist accompanied us on that visit. From what you had told me the debris had been removed and sampled. The debris has in fact been removed yet the results I was waiting for came out of the mouth of Ranger Tim Miller who resides on Sage Ranch. He claimed it was only tested for Asbestos due to the fact Asbestos piping was found. Ranger Miller said this debris was associated with Ranching Equipment. After our observations and photographically documenting this area, I find this claim, hard to believe. This area needs to be considered an Area of Concern (AOC) in the same light as the Northern Drainage that is currently under
DTSC Oversight.

There are roads in the Northern Area of Sage Ranch that come directly from the NASA Lox area. There is tile and asphalt debris along the entire Sage Ranch Northern Loop hiking trail. See attached photos of this AOC.
Susan Callery holding up what William Preston Bowling calls Aerospace Debris on
The Sage Ranch Northern Loop
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The Sage Ranch Northern Loop Debris Pile
The Sage Ranch Northern Loop Drainage. Did they have yellow lines painted on
Black Asphalt on Ranch Property or is SAGE RANCH a Landfill?
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I conclusion I request immediate action on investigating the entire
Sage Ranch Property using historical data and historical photos to properly identify AOC’s and clean them up to Environmental protection Agency standards.
The Northern Drainage igniters should be a wake up call for investigators to extend their survey above and beyond what is considered.
I am also using this as a re-submittal of my original request to investigate what is referred to as the North Loop Debris Pile and obtain all records of the sampling that was said to have been done over this past summer of 2008.
This is an urgent matter and should be treated that way. Despite having been illegally dumped and buried years ago, the illegal dumping of explosives was and is still considered a crime.
I look forward to your immediate action on this issue.
William Preston Bowling - Founder/Director
ACME (Aerospace Cancer Museum of Education) williamprestonbowling@yahoo.com
310.428.5085 http://www.ACMEla.org
23350 Lake Manor Drive
Chatsworth, California
91311
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