BMC Cancer Editorial Office October 7th, 2009 Dear Professor Alexandersson: Thank you very much for your e-mail (September/30/2009) with the reviewer’ comments on our manuscript (MS: 8632793862883747) entitled “Role of IAPs in prostate cancer progression: immunohistochemical study in normal and pathological (benign hyperplastic, prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia and cancer) human prostate”. Gonzalo Rodríguez-Berriguete, Benito Fraile, Fermín R de Bethencourt, Ángela Prieto, Claudia Nuñez, Bruna Prati, Pilar Martínez-Onsurbe, Gabriel Olmedilla, Ricardo Paniagua, Mar Royuela, for consideration in BMC Cancer. After reading the reviewer’ concerns we realize that all their concerns can be adequately performed. We have rewritten the manuscript according to these comments. Also we included a letter to the reviewers explaining the changes made (a point-bypoint response). I hope that the manuscript fulfils all the concerns of the referees and may be accepted for publication. Thank you very much for your attention. Yours sincerely Mar Royuela MANUSCRIPT NUMBER: MS: 8632793862883747 TITLE: “Role of IAPs in prostate cancer progression: immunohistochemical study in normal and pathological (benign hyperplastic, prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia and cancer) human prostate” AUTHORS: Gonzalo Rodríguez-Berriguete1, Benito Fraile1, Fermín R de Bethencourt3, Ángela Prieto-Folgado1, Claudia Nuñez1, Bruna Prati1, Pilar MartínezOnsurbe2, Gabriel Olmedilla2, Ricardo Paniagua1, Mar Royuela1. CHANGES MADE FOLLOWING THE REFEREES’ COMMENTS Rewiewer: Atsunori Oga Major Compulsory Revisions In MATERIAL and METHODS 1) Antibody for ILP2 and NAIP, did you use goat anti-“mouse” antibody?. Please write correct product name for all first-antibodies you used. The correct product name for all the first antibodies used has been written in Methods section (page 5, line 8-10). For more information, all the product information of these first-antibodies as: - Survivin: is a mouse antibody raised against amino acids 1-142 of survivin of human origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). - NAIP: is an affinity goat polyclonal antibody raised against a peptide mapping near the N-terminus of NAIP-1 of mouse origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). - C-IAP ½: is an affinity goat polyclonal antibody raised against a peptide mapping near the amino terminus of c-IAP2 of human origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). - C-IAP-2: is a rabbit polyclonal antibody raised against amino acids 94-178 of c-IAP2 of human origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). - XIAP: is a rabbit polyclonal antibody raised against amino acids 1-202 mapping at the N-terminus of XIAP of human origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). - ILP: is an affinity goat polyclonal antibody raised against a peptide mapping near the C-terminus of ILP of human origin (view Santa Cruz Biotechnology, INC.). This information has not been written in Methods section because another review suggests short the Methods section (“Background and Material and Methods should be concise”). In this way, these sections have been condensed, following the review’s suggestion. In DISCUSSION 1) How should readers interpret the difference of the results in immunohistochemical methods and optical density method? Please describe concisely in DISCUSSION. We agree with your observation and explain concisely in discussion section this point (page 8, line 1-3). We used immunohistochemical analysis in order to know the percentage of positive patients, the location and the expression of the protein studied and after calculate the variation of expression between the different groups of samples studied. So, the immunohistochemical analysis data are used to obtain the optical density data. As we described in Methods section, we made a comparative histologic quantification of immunolabeling among the different groups of prostates samples and for each antibody. From each sample, six histologic sections were selected at random. In each section, the staining intensity (optic density) per unit surface area was measured with an automatic image analyzer (Motic Images Advanced version 3.2, Motic China Group Co., China) in 5 light microscopic fields per section, using the X20 objective. From the average values obtained (by the automatic image analyzer) for each prostate, the means ± SD for each prostate type (NP, BPH, PIN and PC) were calculated. The results were corroborated by two different observers. The statistical significance between means of the different prostate group samples was assessed by the one way ANOVA test at p0.05, by multiple pairwise comparisons (GraphPad PRISMA 3.0 computer program). 2) It is necessary to describe the limit of the description in your experiment a little more carefully. To determine whether the limit of our results description several sentences has been modified in discussion section (page 8, lines 15-19; page 8, lines 29-30; page 8, lines 31-34; as example). 3) In the prostatic cancer, if amount of the caspase family, especially caspase 7, 9 and 3, is increasing, could the IAPs effects cancel? Molecularly, classical apoptosis is caused by the activation of caspases, a family of intracellular cysteine proteases that cleave substrates at aspartic acid residues (Cryns et al., 1999; Thornberry et al., 1998). Caspases lie in a latent (zymogen) state in cells but become activated in response to a wide variety of cell death stimuli. Through a proteolytic cascade, caspases are functionally connected to each other, with upstream (initiator) caspases cleaving and activating downstream (effectors) caspases (Salvesen et al., 1997). At present, IAPs inhibit at least two of the major pathways for initiation of caspase activation: (a) the intrinsic or mitochondrial pathway related with cytochrome c, and (b) the extrinsic or death receptor pathway related with the tumour necrosis factor (TNF) family of death receptors. The two pathways converge at the activation of downstream effector caspases such as caspase 3. The IAPs are a family of caspase inhibitors that specifically inhibit caspases 3, 7 and 9 and thereby prevent apoptosis. Subsequent studies identified IAPs in a diverse range of species and discerned that IAPs inhibit apoptosis by blocking caspases (Salvesen et al., 2002; or view manuscript references). In this way, for exemple, its know that XIAP, cIAP1 and c-IAP-2 prevented the proteolytic processing of Pro-caspases-3, -6, and -7 by blocking the cytochrome c induced activation of pro-caspase-9 by binding directly to (pro)-caspase-9. But they did not prevent caspase-8 induced activation of pro-caspase-3; however they subsequently inhibit processing of caspase-3 directly, thus blocking downstream apoptotic events such as further activation of caspases (Deveraux et al., 1998). Therefore it was confirmed that survivin and XIAP act on the level of the executioner caspases-3 and -7, but do not act on the level of initiator caspases (since they did not interacted with caspase-8). In this way, the increase in the expression of IAPs could be cancelled caspases effects but at the same time, since PC is a heterogeneous disease in which multiple transduction pathways, cytokines, oncogenes, or other mitogenic signals may interact in the uncontrolled apoptosis/cell proliferation, additional fundamental research and their correlation with clinical experimentation will be required in this field. 4) p.11: How is it written in other laboratories manuscripts though the self-quotation looks as excess in the discussion,? According to the manuscripts of McEleny et al and Krajewska et al quoted by you, c-IAP-1/2 or c-IAP are important contribution to apoptotic resistance in PC. However, in your observations expression level of c-IAP-1/2 or c-IAP in normal tissue is higher than in PC. You observed the expression of IAPs in prostatic cancer specimens and connected the results to the increasing tendency of prostatic cancer cells. We are rewritten the sentence (page 9, lines 9-13). We observed that the percentage of positive patients in PC is similar than BPH to c-IAP1/2; and minor to c-IAP-2. But, the optical density is similar (c-IAP-1/2) or more elevated in PC than in BPH (c-IAP-2) but c-IAP-2 did not increase with Gleason grade. After we compared with the results of these authors because McEleny et al. observed similar localization to c-IAP-1, c-IAP-2 and XIAP in PC3 cells (in vitro study). In this way, Krajewska et al. also by immunohistochemical analysis of prostate tumour tissues (in vivo study, similar to those results present here) reveals elevations in the expression of cIAP2 but immunostaining data did not correlate with Gleason scores (the same results that we presents here). 5) Which IAPs are important for keeping of excessive cell number in BPH or PC?. Is it c-IAP1/2, c-IAP or XIAP? IAPs is a gene family that comprises different proteins such as cIAP1, cIAP2, Survivin or XIAP. When we use the term IAPs we name the family in general (IAPs) but when we name a specific proteins of this family we use the protein name (c-IAP-1/2, for example). BPH consists of overgrowth of the epithelium and fibromuscular tissue of the transition zone and periurethral area. In this manuscript we related IAPs with the increase of proliferation cells typical of BPH since are proteins that inhibit the cellular death, promoting the proliferation effects typical of BPH. BPH is frequently seen in association with PC and there are a number of compelling similar, including increasing with age or hormonal requirements for growth and development. The antiapoptotic properties of IAPs have also been linked to NF-kB and mitogen-activated protein kinase signal transduction (Hofer-Warbinek et al., 2000). NF-kB is a new predictive marker of prostate cancer, which promotes survival factors such as bcl-2 and bcl-XL (Tamatani et al., 1999). Different report (Zou et al., 2004; Jim et al., 2009) described IAPs family as downstream targets of activated NF-kB. At the same time, several authors have proposed the use of NF-kB inhibitors as therapeutic agents, either alone or combined with other agents (Ross et al., 2004; Domingo-Domenech, 2005). 6) “Isn’t there possibility that overexpression of caspase family member proteins make the level of IAPs increase. “ No, at the present and in our knowledge, IAPs is a potent suppressor of apoptosis owing to its ability to bind and inactivate caspases. But the overexpression of caspase family does not make an increase in the IAPs level. For example, activation of the caspase cascade is involved in the execution of apoptosis in a variety of cellular systems. Several studies demonstrated that caspase-1 and 3 activations were required for human prostate cancer cells to undergo apoptosis in response to transforming growth factor-b (Guo and Kyprianou, 1999; Winter et al., 2001). Inmunohistochemical analyses demonstrate a diminished detection of caspase-1 and -3 proteins in human prostate cancer compared with the normal gland (Winter et al., 2001). Therefore it was confirmed that survivin and XIAP act on the level of the executioner caspases-3 and as we show in our manuscript the expressions of IAPs (survivin and XIAP) increase in PC (survivin is not expresses in PN and XIAP is scantly expressed). 7) In the previous paper, you described that both the apoptotic index of the normal and BPH tissue were similar. However, in the present manuscript, you thought the apoptotic index (in BPH?) was lower than in normal. Does not this give a false impression to the audience? We agree with your observation and we have changed this paragraph in the revised manuscript according to your suggestion (page 8, line 28-30). If you read De Miguel et al (2000) is true that the apoptotic index measured by TUNNEL in BPH (1.5±0.5) is lower than in normal prostate (2.0±0.4) but it is not a good interpretation because these values are not statistical significatives. For this, the good interpretation is that “in BPH the apoptotic index (measured by TUNEL) was similar than normal prostate”. 8) There is a sentence that this is the first manuscript that describes ILP-2 and NAIP in human prostate. Have not McEleny et al observed NAIP level using prostatic cancer cell line? We agree with your comment and in order to clarify the sentences (background and discussion sections) we added a short comment (page 4, line 19 in background; page 9, lines 11 and 21 in discussion section). Our manuscript is the first that describes ILP-2 and NAIP in human prostate in vivo tissue. McEleny et al described ILP-2 and NAIP in in vitro experiments, because work in different prostate cancer cell lines (DU145, PC3 and LNCaP) with different characteristic as example some cellular line is androgen dependent cells (LNCaP) and other is androgen independent cells (PC3). The manuscript of McEleny et al, compared the expressions of ILP-2 and NAIP between the three cell lines but not with in vivo prostate tissue. Minor Essential Revisions 1) Your English especially in the summary seems not to be enough, I think. The manuscript has been revised by an English-speaking colleague, and we will thank of receiving editorial assistance. In this way, several typographical errors have been corrected. SUMMARY 1) L-3: IAPs is….., L-3: In this study was investigate IAPs …..L-8: analyses were performed …….. in 27 men, L-10: “epithelial” epithelial cells?, These typographical errors have been corrected. BACKGROUND 1) L-7: “Inhibitor” inhibitor?, L-17: “cervical” (uterine) cervix?, L-25: “ILP2-“ These typographical errors have been corrected. DISCUSSION 1) p.10 ki-27? 2) p.11-L12, Using the same PC samples than in this study…than? These typographical errors have been corrected: “Ki-27” has been written as “Ki-27 nuclear antigen” (page 8, line 27; page 10, line 4). This sentence has been modified (page 10, lines 5-8). MANUSCRIPT NUMBER: MS: 8632793862883747 TITLE: “Role of IAPs in prostate cancer progression: immunohistochemical study in normal and pathological (benign hyperplastic, prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia and cancer) human prostate” AUTHORS: Gonzalo Rodríguez-Berriguete1, Benito Fraile1, Fermín R de Bethencourt3, Ángela Prieto-Folgado1, Claudia Nuñez1, Bruna Prati1, Pilar MartínezOnsurbe2, Gabriel Olmedilla2, Ricardo Paniagua1, Mar Royuela1. CHANGES MADE FOLLOWING THE REFEREES’ COMMENTS Rewiewer: Shigefumi Yoshino Major Compulsory Revisions Authors concluded that IAPs and NF-kB could be involved in prostate disorder developement. But I can not see the data concerning on NF-kB in this article. Authors shoud show the results concerning on NF-kB in prostatic carcinoma and shoud investigate the relationship between IAPs and NF-kB in cancer developement. We also added a new table (Table 3) with all data concerning to NF-kB, Elk-1 and ATF-2 (other review suggest also included Elk-1 and ATF-2 data). We added or modified in discussion section sentences in order to discuss the relation of these data with the manuscript (page 8, lines 5-6, 21, 33-34; page 9, lines 1-6, 30-33; page 10, lines 1-12; for example). MANUSCRIPT NUMBER: MS: 8632793862883747 TITLE: “Role of IAPs in prostate cancer progression: immunohistochemical study in normal and pathological (benign hyperplastic, prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia and cancer) human prostate” AUTHORS: Gonzalo Rodríguez-Berriguete1, Benito Fraile1, Fermín R de Bethencourt3, Ángela Prieto-Folgado1, Claudia Nuñez1, Bruna Prati1, Pilar MartínezOnsurbe2, Gabriel Olmedilla2, Ricardo Paniagua1, Mar Royuela1. CHANGES MADE FOLLOWING THE REFEREES’ COMMENTS Rewiewer: Michiya Kobayashi 1) Author should check the English including the typological or grammatical point of view. For one of the examples: Page 4, line4: “is know” should be “is known” Page 6, line last 5: “swine swine” should be “swine” Page 8, line 9: 59.25% Page 10, line 17: “was described” should be “described. etc. The manuscript has been revised by an English-speaking colleague, and we will thank of receiving editorial assistance. In this way, several typographical errors have been corrected. 2) Background and Material and Methods should be concise. The Background and Methods sections have been condensed, following the review’s suggestion. 3) Author should add the statistical analysis about the immunohistochemical reactions (Table 1) Statistical analysis about the immunohistochemical reactions (optical densities) has been added in all the Tables. Average optical densities were evaluated only in patients showing positive immunoreactions. Statistical analysis refers to each antibody separately. Values denoted by different superscripts are significantly different from each other. Significance was determined by the one way ANOVA test at p0.05, by multiple pairwise comparisons (GraphPad PRISMA 3.0 computer program). 4) For the comprehension of the readers, author should describe the brief results of the previous data, such as NF-kB, ATF-2, and Elk-1, in the discussion parts. And discuss the relation of the immunohistochemical data in this manuscript with them. We also added a new table (Table 3) with all data concerning to NF-kB, Elk-1 and ATF-2 (other review suggest also included Elk-1 and ATF-2 data). This data also has been included in discussion section. We added in discussion section new sentences in order to discuss the relation of these data with the manuscript (page 8, lines 5-6, 21, 33-34; page 9, lines 1-6, 30-33; page 10, lines 1-12; for example).