The Carr and Kent Families of Cheshire Previous research had shown Michael Gregory to be descended from a Cheshire family of landed gentry. One of these ancestors, John Glegg (b.1712) had married Mary Carr, whose father was unknown at this time. John’s father was Edward Glegg (b. ca 1681) who married Elizabeth Kent, daughter of John Kent of Tranmore [Tranmere]. Further research was conducted in 2009 to see if these lines could be traced further back in time. As will be seen below, this proved largely unsuccessful. Ormerod’s History of Cheshire (vol. 2, p. 492) showing the descent of the Glegg family of Grange simply records that the mother of William Glegg, Michael Gregory’s ancestor, as “Mary, dau ….. Carr of Liverpool ob. Feb 28, 1758, aet 39). It is known that she married John Glegg (1712-1749). Who was Mary Carr? What was her ancestral line? Did she come from a landed family. This might be expected as she married into the Gleggs of Grange. It is known that John Glegg did not leave a will which was proved following his death in 1749. Only an administration was granted on his estate by the Consistory Court of Chester, dated 1749. Similarly, it is now known that when Mary died in 1758, she too left no surviving will. Rather an administration was granted in 1759 by the same ecclesiastical court for Mary “of Grange”. No marriage can be located for John Glegg and Mary Carr in the International Genealogical Index or the British Vital Records Index. Such a union may have provided a clue to the home parish of the bride. No candidate for the baptism of Mary Carr can be found in Lancashire from 1713 to 1723, especially in Liverpool, in the IGI. The BVRI does include a baptism of Mary Carr, daughter of Robert and Anne at Downham. This took place on 3 rd October 1723. This parish is on the far eastern border of Lancashire next to Yorkshire and many miles from Liverpool. Surprisingly, no baptisms can be found for the five recorded children of John and Mary Glegg in the mid 18th century in either index. The National Burial Index includes the burial of John Glegg on 26th April 1749 at St Bridget, West Kirby. This parish is in the north-west corner of Cheshire on the Wirral Peninsula. The burial records of all Glegg(e) in West Kirby have been extracted. One Mary Glegg was buried there on 4th November 1749. However, this does not agree with the date shown in Ormerod’s Cheshire or the date of her administration which both give the year as 1758/9. The search for the elusive marriage was extended to other indexes. There is no union recorded for John and Mary Glegg(e) in Boyd’s Marriage Index, the allegations issued by the Faculty Office or the Vicar General of in the licences issued by the courts of York and now held at the Borthwick Institute there. No success was achieved either using the Cheshire Marriage Index compiled by Bertram Merrill. There are monumental inscriptions for West Kirby. These were transcribed and published and can be viewed at the Society of Genealogists (CH/MI/73125). No Glegg(e) inscriptions are included. Were there any published account for the Carr family of Liverpool which would record the parentage and ancestry of Mary Carr? Using Marshall and Whitmore, the genealogical guides, many references to printed material on families of Carr were listed. Some were examined to see if the articles were relevant. Harleian Society volumes 16, 21, 37 & 38, include Carr pedigrees which are not relevant to this family. The references in the Genealogist, volumes 1, 3 & 4, New Series, volumes 6 and 8 were examined without success. New Series, volume 8 was missing. No relevant information was found in Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 4th Series, vol. 5, p. 164. There is a volume of the Victoria County History of Lancashire (vol. 4) which includes Liverpool. This is indexed by surname. None of the Carr references relate to Liverpool itself. Was there any probate material relevant to this problem? The index to wills and administrations of the Consistory Court of Chester can be searched online. From 1718 to 1770, there were: John Carr Richard Carr John Carr Tattenhall Chester Broxton yeoman flaxdresser yeoman 1722 1734 1736 will & inv adm will None was of apparent interest at present. For Lancashire wills, now available in the archives at Preston, there are published indexes to wills and administrations. From 1718 to 1780, there were references to those of Liverpool as: 1 Diana Carr Margaret Carr William Carr James Carr William Carr John Carr Lawrence Carr Robert Carr William Carr otherwise Creamer William Carr spinster mariner mariner merchant mariner merchant mariner mariner mariner 1724 1738 1739 1742 1754 1760 1762 1762 1763 1773 adm adm adm adm From this listing of those from Liverpool, the documents for the two merchants were selected and their wills were copied. William Carr of Liverpool made his will on 29th January l749. He had a wife named Mary as well as sons called Lawrence and William and daughters named Margaret and Alice. He also left bequests to the three children of his late sister Fryer. William had property at Huckings Hey, a brewery and shop. His appointed executors were William Pole and Ralph Mercer as well as Mary, Lawrence and William Carr. He added a codicil on 5th May 1752 and the will was proved by Mary and Lawrence Carr on 3 rd August 1754. Power was reserved to the other three executors. Lawrence Carr made his own will on 16th September 1762. He referred to the will of his father, William. Presumably, this was the will proved in 1754. He had a brother named William and sisters who were not individually named. There were also references to his brothers-in-law, William Gregson and Thomas Wilson, and Spencer Steers, merchant of Liverpool. The executors appointed were his two brothers-in-law, Spencer Steers and his own wife, who was not specifically named. He also had four children, all under 21 in 1762. They were William, the oldest(?), Catherine, Anne and Robert. The will was proved on 12 th November 1762 by Alice Carr and his three named executors. In neither will was any mention made of Mary Carr later Glegg. The superior ecclesiastical court to the Consistory Court of Chester was the Prerogative Court of York. For that court, there is an index to both wills and administrations online through British Origins for the period of 1731 to 1858. This index included 222 references to probate documents for those called Carr from 1731 to 1800. None were for inhabitants of the county of Cheshire. Only one lived in Lancashire in that period. This was James Carr of Preston whose will was proved in March 1795. As Mary was stated by Ormerod to be the daughter of a Mr Carr of Liverpool, attention now turned to the parish registers of the ancient churches of that City. These were St Nicholas, St Peter and St George. The last parish, that of St George, has its marriage records included in Boyd’s Marriage Index. These had already been searched without success. There are no other records for that church available in London archives. For the parish of St Peter, there are marriages and baptisms in the London LDS library taken from the bishop’s transcripts (mf 1068921, items 2-11). The marriages for 1737 to 1742 were searched without finding the union of John Glegg(e) and Mary. The baptisms from 1717 to 1720 include: Bap 10 Apr 1717 born ? 25 Margt dau of Will Carr Bap 13 Jan(?) 1720 Lawrance d (sic) of Willm Carr Dale St Poole Lain labr For St Nicholas, there are microfilm copies of the baptisms and marriages in the LDS library. For marriages, there are entries for 1663 to 1766 (mf 0093834). This in indexed by name and includes four Carr brides, being Alice, Catherine, Esther and Margaret. There was however one Glegg male. This was John described as “Esquire”. The entry was examined and copied. It proved to be the elusive marriage of Michael Gregory’s ancestors. On 14th February 1740/1, “John Glegg of Grange in the County of Chester Esqr and Mary Card of this Town sp” married. The bride was indexed, as the entry clearly reads, as Card. The baptisms were now searched from 1717 to 1720 (mf 0093832) finding: Born 27 Aug 1718, baptised 18 Sep 1718 Alice dau of William Carr Poollane merchant This child and the two christened at St Peter’s were the offspring of the merchant of Liverpool whose will had been copied. Mary Carr or Card was not baptised in the same church where she was to marry in 1741. However, she may have been related to the other family of Carr which was recorded there in the early 18th century. Neither the IGI nor the BVRI contains any baptism for a Mary Card in the counties of Lancashire or Cheshire between the years 1708 and 1728. Attention now turned to the Kent family. 2 The Glegg line of Michael Gregory’s ancestry had been extended using original and manuscript sources back to the 16th century. This was mainly achieved using Ormerod’s History of Cheshire which, on page 492, records the Glegg family of Grange which extends from John Glegg of Gayton down to William Glegg and his wife, Frances Jennings, who were Michael Gregory’s ancestors. The grandparents to William Glegg were recorded as Edward Glegg (born c. 1681 to 1714) and “Elizabeth dau and heiress to John Kent of Tranmore”. They are stated to have married by licence dated 28th July 1696. Edward Glegg was buried at West Kirby. No other information was recorded about the Kent family. Was it possible to extend this line of ancestry? The first approach was to look for other printed material on the Kent lineage which may be available at the library of the Society of Genealogists in London. Using the genealogical guides produced by Marshall in 1903, Whitmore in 1953 and Barrow in 1977, access can be achieved to significant pedigrees and other genealogical material, such as listings from major sources or information recorded on heraldic monuments, which have been reproduced in the genealogical periodicals of the 18 th to 20th century as well as the heralds’ visitations and other antiquarian accounts. From the listings for Kent, a number of citations were examined to see if they shed light on the family of Tranmere, the modern spelling of the place name in Cheshire. Cheshire Visitation Pedigrees of 1663 (Harleian Society, vol. 93, p.58) depicts a family of Kent of Congleton. This did not include the Tranmere family. Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica 5 th Series, vol. 7, p. 177, shows the Kent family of Lincoln, whilst The Genealogist, vol. 2, p. 185, records the Kents of London. References to Kent pedigrees in Harleain Society volumes 17, 19, 22, 40 and 105 are not for families of Cheshire. Ormerod’s History of Cheshire, vol. 2, p. 445, includes some information on a Kent family. However, this dates from a period far too late to be of interest in this investigation. It shows that Randle Kent of Knutsford married Catherine Green, who died in 1777. The had children named Richard of Liverpool, who died in 1790, married to Elizabeth Robinson, and Thomas, who was married to Elizabeth Bagg. Both the Special Collections index and the content of the Documents Collection at the Society of Genealogists were examined. Neither included material which was relevant to the Kent family of Cheshire, especially Tranmere. To date, the volume of the Victoria County History for the area of Cheshire of the Wirral, where West Kirby and Tranmere are situated, has yet to be produced. This is often an excellent source of information about the ancient and established families of a particular parish. Was there any extant probate material which would shed light on the ancestry of Elizabeth Kent? The highest ecclesiastical court of England and Wales was the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. The index to the wills proved by that court include two men called John Kent of Cheshire from 1650 to 1750. Was either the father of Elizabeth, to whom she was described as an heiress? Such a term may reflect that she inherited his property but more likely indicated that he was an armiger, having a coat of arms, which in the absence of his male issue, could descend and be used by his grandsons through Elizabeth. Both PCC wills were examined to see if Elizabeth was named. The will of John Kent of Northwich was proved on 13th April 1732 (PROB11/651). He had a wife named Mary, who was made his executrix. He also made bequests to his children, Edward, Mary Park, Annabella, Elizabeth and Richard. There was also a legacy to his grandson, John Kent. This testator is rather too late to be of relevance. The relevant Elizabeth Kent would have been born about 1680 and was, by 1732, the widow of Edward Clegg. John Kent, yeoman of Elton, made his will on 11th December 1658. It was proved by his wife, Jane, and his oldest son, John, on 8th March 1659 (PROB11/288). He referred to an indenture dated 13th March 1633 to raise £200 for his younger children. He specified that his four children, John, Samuel, Nathaniel and Jane were to receive £180 from it. He also made bequests of his ploughing machinery to his oldest son, John, and 100 marks each to his sons, Samuel and Nathaniel, and his daughter, Jane. The residue went to his wife. He held a reversion of a close named The Lambested of Richard Shawe which went to his wife. He requested that his three youngest children should have a chamber in his house whilst they remain unmarried. This will does not appear to provide any additional information on Michael Gregory’s family unless the son John was the father or grandfather of Elizabeth who married Edward Glegg. For the Consistory Court of Chester, the index to wills and administrations is available online. A listing of all Kent references has been extracted. From 1670 to 1750, there were two references of great interest. These were for John Kent of Tranmere in 1685 and 1687. On examination of the information about the documents concerned, that of 1685 was a will and inventory whilst that of 1687 was only an inventory. The former was copied as it may contain important genealogical clues. John Kent of Tranmere made his will on 27th December …… (the right hand edge of this document is missing). He was a gentleman of Tranmore. He named his three relatives as his wife, Elizabeth; his son, John, and his unmarried daughter, Susanna. His wife was to act as his executrix. The will, which was witnessed by Alice and John Dunn and Thos Leadbeater, was proved on 8th April 1685 by his widow. An inventory of all his possessions was appended. 3 Could this man, who lived at Tranmore, have been the grandfather of Elizabeth Glegg? He certainly did not name a daughter as Elizabeth in his will which may prelude him as her father. Was she the daughter of John Kent junior, who was named in this document? It is not known when the will was written as that important date is missing through damage. By the date of the probate, Elizabeth would have been a young girl. She was to marry eleven years later. Superior to the Consistory Court of Chester was the Prerogative of York. The available index to the wills and administrations of that court covers the period only from 1731 to 1858. It is on the British Origins website. In the years of 1731 to 1760, there were 17 references to those with the surname of Kent. None were for inhabitants of Cheshire. Indeed, in the whole period from 1731 to 1858 none of those called Kent, whose probate documents were recorded by this court, lived in that county. For the earlier period of 1688 to 1730, there is no index available outside the Borthwick Institute in York, where these records are housed. Instead, it is necessary to use the original calendars. These can be searched on microfilm at the LDS library in London. Searching from 1688 to 1731 (there being gaps in the calendars 1691-1697 and 1700-1704 and some years being partly illegible), there were nine references to those names Kent. The only testator named John Kent lived at Kirston and his will was proved in 1710/1. None lived in the area of Cheshire around Tranmere. The printed abstract for the marriage licence issued to Edward Glegge and Elizabeth Kent was copied from the volume of Chester Marriage Licences. It shows that the licence was issued on 28th July 1696. Both were then living at “Tranemoore” and were single. They stated that they would marry at Bebington. An attempt was made to order a copy of the bond and/or allegation relating to this licence from Cheshire Archives. Unfortunately, they were unable to find any documents relating to the marriage and suggested that neither the bond nor allegation appear to have survived. Attention now switched to the parish registers of Bebington, which included Tranmore. There is a modern copy of the parish registers which is available for research in the library of the Society of Genealogists (CH/R5). It includes baptisms, marriages and burials 1558 to 1701. This was searched for any reference to the surname of Kent using its index. Surprisingly, very few references to the surname are included. These are: Buried Buried Baptised Buried Elizabetha filia Johannis Kent Gener de Tranmore Feb 10 1681/2 Johannes Kent gener Beb Feb 1 1684/5 Elizabetha filia Johannis Kent Gener June 22 1686 Johnannes Kent de Tranmore gener Nov 21 1686 No marriage of Edward Glegg(e) and Elizabeth Kent took place at Bebington, as was suggested would be the venue when they applied for permission to marry by licence in July 1686. Why did they not marry there? Where had they married instead if indeed they went through a formal ceremony in church? Two men called John Kent, both described as gentlemen, were buried there in 1685 and 1686. The former must have been the man whose will was copied. The other man may have been the person whose inventory survives from 1687. The page with the baptismal entry for Elizabeth Kent has been copied. This has been annotated in the modern transcription with a footnote stating that the Kents of Tranmere held lands there for several generations and that Elizabeth carried her father’s property with her to her marriage with Edward Glegg of Grange. This is rather strange but appears to confirm what was also recorded by Ormerod. It is a great pity that the source of this intriguing annotation was not included. How did the editor of the transcription know that detail? Furthermore, if this was the baptism of the future wife of Edward Glegg, it took place only ten years before the date of the marriage licence! Was this baptism for a young girl rather than a baby? If so, it may be expected that her age would be recorded at her christening. Did her parents have another child named Elizabeth who died and was buried in 1681/2? No other children named Kent are included in the parish records of Bebington and none were baptised in the church. Where were they christened? Could the family have been nonconformist and used a chapel of another denomination for their other ceremonies? The following page of this baptism register transcript (110) contains an interesting entry relating to the Glegg family and this has also been copied. The transcription of the Bebington registers also includes a reference to: July 13 1691 John Kent licensed to practise the Arts of a Surgery and Medicine throughout the whole Diocese of Chester on Testimonial from Allan Penington and Robert Oldfield, Doctors of Medicine. Who was that John Kent? Clearly he could not be either of the men who were buried at Bebington in 1685 and 1686. Was this doctor, who was licensed by the ecclesiastical court, the father of the future Elizabeth Glegg? The Cheshire Marriage Index, compiled by Bertram Merrill, was searched for the union of any John Kent which took place in the 17th century finding: 1660 1661/2 Jan 31 1699 April 1 John Kent & Sarah Brown John Kent & Ann Leversage John Kent & Alice Jennings Barthomley Prestbury Wistaston banns banns licence 4 Could any of these marriages be relevant to this research? Google Books was searched for any reference to this family. It indicated that Burke’s Landed Gentry, vol. 2, p. 1005, included a reference to the marriage of Edward Par to Susannah, sister of John Kent Gent of Tranmere about 1685 and had issue. The relevant section has been copied. It relates to the Parr family of Liverpool, formerly of Rainford. As can be seen, they are shown to have produced five sons and a daughter, namely John, Edward, Samuel, Jonas, Kent and Elizabeth. No additional information on the mother’s family is included. The International Genealogical Index shows no baptism for Susanna Kent in Cheshire from 1650 to 1690. There is a baptism for John Kent, son of John Kent and Elizabeth Barker at Warmingham on 27th November 1665, submitted by a member of the Mormon church, and a baptism of John, son of Jno Kent, on 16th May 1684 at Wybunbury. Another submitted entry also suggests that John Kent married Elizabeth Barker at Warmingham on 20th December 1664. No useful baptisms or marriages are included in the British Vital Records Index. A modern transcription of the parish registers of Wybunbury, a parish which lies in the south-east corner of Cheshire, many miles from Bebington, have been filmed by the LDS church. They are available for research in their London library (mf 0215615 item 6). They were searched for baptisms, marriages and burials from 1653/4 to May 1655. There is then a gap to 1666 from which the search was extended to Lady Day 1700 finding: Buried Baptism Buried Baptism Baptism Baptism Baptism Buried Baptism Baptism Baptism Baptism Buried Baptism Baptism Baptism Buried Buried Buried Buried Buried Married Buried 8 Oct 1654 Jane d/o Raudle Kent 31 Mar 1668 Thos s/o Wm Kent 19 Dec 1669 Mary wife of Wm Kent 4 Apr 1676 Margery d/o Will Kent 4 Jun 1678 Alice d/o Wm Kent junr 21 Jun 1680 Will s/o Will Kent junr 4 Aug 1680 Ellen d/o Wm Keat 4 Apr 1682 Ellen Kent (spin) 13 Feb 1682/3 Abigaill d/o Wm Kent Senr 21 Sep 1683 Sarah d/o Wm Kent Junr 19 May 1684 Jno s/o Jno Kent 2 Apr 1686 Robt s/oWm Kent Senr 29 Oct 1686 Wm Kent Senr 17 Nov 1686 Jno s/o Wm Kent 21 May 1689 Martha d/o Jno Kent 17 Mar 1689/90 Jas s/o Wm Kent 12 Jun 1691 Robt Kent 23 Dec 1691 Wm Kent 14 Sep 1692 Jas s/o Ann Kent wid 29 Sep 1692 Ann Keat spin 22 Jul 1693 Sarah d/o Ann Kent wid 25 Apr 1698 Jno Walleg & Alice Keat 5 Oct 1699 Elizth Kent Hough Shaw by banns Chorl As can be seen, the surname of Kent was frequently recorded at Wybunbury in the late 17 th century. Two boys called John Kent were baptised there in 1684 and 1686. One was the son of John and the other the child of William. The christening of the John, son of John, in 1684 was copied from a film of the original parish registers (mf 2068758). As can be seen, the date was clearly 19th May 1684 and the surname was recorded as Kentt. He had a sister named as Martha in 1689. We have no knowledge if this family was related to the Kents of Tranmere. The National Burial Index was searched for all Kent in Cheshire before 1750. The list is included herewith. The surname is frequently found in that period in Barthomley where many people with the surname were buried in the 16 th and 17th centuries. As was known, the surname only appears at Bebington on three occasions. Any surviving documents relating to the Kent family of Tranmere would probably be deposited at the Chester Record Office. The Access to Archives website allows access to any surname indexes in local record offices which have been made available online. The references to John Kent in Cheshire are: Mary Barker of Sandiway (Weaverham?) will 20 Jan 1683/4 includes bequests to Mary Kent, d/o John Kent of Elton, John Kent & his wife Consistory Court, Chester 1684 Warmingham John Kent, prohibition (1682-19) 5 Consistory Court, Chester 1682-19 responsions, allegations John Kent & Ralph Furnival for not providing bread and wine for communion – libel, Crewe Collection - John Crewe Offley leased to John Kent a messuage in Elton DCR/32/1/11 1692 John Crewe “ DCR/16/5/5 1662 20th Sept John Crew “ DCR/32/5/14 1718 May 20th John Crewe “ DCR/32/5/15 1719 Feb 26th Licence papers EDC9/1691/1 [n.d.] John Kent surgeon 1691 Mortgage by Peter Venables on a messuage late in the tenure of John Kent 17 Oct 24 Car II Tranmere and Bebington apart from the medical licence of 1691 referred to in the parish register transcription. Date of Report: 10 December 2009 6 The Carr and Kent Families EDWARD GLEGG of = ELIZ, dau Caldey Grange, esq. and heiress obiit Aug 4, 1714, of John aged 33 years, buried Kent of at West Kirby Tranmore b. ca 1681 m. 28 Jul 1696 (licence) JOHN GLEGG = MARY CARR (or CARD), dau of Grange, esq. … Carr of born 1712, ob. Liverpool April 23, 1749 b.1718/9 m. 14 Feb 1740/41 St Nicholas, Liverpool ob. Feb 28, 1758, aet 39 Sidney Lloyd b. 1752/53 m. 1774 d. 27 Mar 1822 bur Neston Admon. 1822 = William Glegge b. ca 1750 d. 1785 = Frances Jennings Emily b. 1775 d. 20 Feb 1843 (Cheshire) Thomas Glegge b. ca 1775 Mariner (1800) Mariner (1806) d. 4 Feb 1818 = Catherine Davies Francis Glegge dau of Wm Davies d. By 1851? (Ropemaker) b. 1777 (St John’s Liverpool) m. Nov 1793 d. 4 Nov 1859 Living at Elm Terrace Tranmere (1851) Proprietor of Houses Thomas Glegge b. 1800 (Liverpool) Master Mariner d. 18 Aug 1848 = Mary Miller b. 1808 (Liverpool) Living 5 Osborne Terrace Liverpool (1851) William Glegge Emily b. 1838 (Liverpool) b. 1834 (Liverpool) Living at 5 Osborne Living at 5 Osborne Terrace, Liverpool (1851) Terrace, Liverpool (1851) Ralph Abraham Blake b. ca 1850 = Frederick John Hall Gregory b. 1884 d. 1929 Mary Glegge = b. 22 May 1806 m. 3 Jan 1828 d. 7 Jan 1885 William Humphrey Thomas b. 1 Jan 1807 m. 3 Jan 1828 d. 13 Jan 1877 Thomas Glegge Thomas architect b. 11 Jun 1829 Tranmere, Cheshire d. 18 Nov 1881 Tranmere (age 52) = [-?-] [-?-] William b. 12 July 1803 d. By 1836? Eliza Catherine George b. 9 Sep 1826 m. 25 Sep 1851 Walton on the Hill Lancashire Mary Catherine Thomas b. 1853 = Annie Blake b. 1885 Frederick William Gregory = Margaret Mary O’Neill b. 25.12.1906 d. 01.03.1975 b. 24.11.1909 d. 10.07.1987 Malcolm Peter Gregory b. 26.02.1935 Frances = Bernadette Caffrey b. 13.04.1934 d. 2001 Michael Peter Gregory b. 25.06.1957 7