February, 2016
IEEE P802.15-02/087
IEEE P802.15
Wireless Personal Area Networks
Project
IEEE P802.15 Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs)
Title
IEEE802.15 WG minutes
Date
Submitted
15 March, 2002
Source
[Pat Kinney]
[Invensys Metering Systems]
[Pittsburgh, PA]
Re:
802.15 Plenary Meeting in St. Lois, MO
Abstract
IEEE 802.15 Working Group Minutes
Purpose
Official minutes of the Working Group Session
Notice
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basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or
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withdraw material contained herein.
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IEEE 802.15 Plenary Meeting – Session #17
St Louis Hyatt,
One St. Louis Station,
St Louis, MO 63103, USA
11-15 March 02
Monday, 11 March 2002
1:14 802.11 and 802.15 Chairs called the joint meeting to order.
Announcements
 Review IEEE 802, 802.11, & 802.15 Policies and Rules
o New online attendance recording & document # requests
 404 voters for 802.11, 102 voters for 802.15
o Wireless Network and Network Cards
o IP statements
 802.11 received one IP posting since the last meeting,
802.15 received one IP posting since the last meeting
o WG & 802 Re-elections
 C Stevenson moved that the proposed slate of Officers be
nominated, TK Tan seconded. Numerous mentions of the
procedure and reasonable notice clause. 802.11 will put this
issue on the main agenda.
 C Stevenson moved that the proposed slate of Officers be
nominated, C Ritter seconded. No other nominations were
named. J Barr moved to close the nominations. Vote will
occur on Wednesday morning.
 Publicity chair-802.11
o Brian Matthews was the only nomination.
 Logistics (Breaks, Social, etc.)
 WG Graphic matrix time limits
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o 802.11 is up to R5
 Liaisons
o Appointees are expected to bring information back to the Friday
plenary
 Approve or modify 802.11 Working Group Agenda
o Review and approve the 802.11 minutes of Dallas Meeting Moved
by V Hayes seconded by B Kraemer; following no objections the
minutes were approved by unanimous consent.
o Matters arising from the previous minutes: none
 Approve or modify 802.15 working group agenda. Motion by R Alfvin,
seconded M Naeve, following no objections the agenda was approved by
unanimous consent.
o Review and approve the 802.15 minutes from Dallas; moved by
Marco Naeve, seconded by John Barr; following no objections the
minutes are approved by unanimous consent
o Matters arising from the previous minutes: none
1:40 Summary of key working group / 802 events / activities
o Review Interim meetings
September 2002 meeting, Hyatt Regency Monterey, CA
January 2003 meeting in Fort Lauderdale, FL; Motorola is host
Straw poll results were 117/0/5
Future meeting locations were solicited from attendees
No volunteers for May were received from the audience
ETSI has proposed Sophia Antipolis, FR: straw poll was
95/8/6
o Financials/YTD: Report wasn’t ready
2:02 Review objectives, activities, & plans for this session (IEEE802.1502/142r0)
Report on ExCom activities and plans
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802.11 Nominations beyond the proposed persons
Chair: none
Vice Chair: none
B O’Hara moved to close the nomination, seconded by Atul Garg. J
Zyren moved to table the motion , Kowalski seconded. Vote was
taken on the move to table: 54/28/21, motion carries. D Bagby moved
to bring the motion back from table. Vote on this motion was
27/47/29, motion fails.
Task group/Study group reports
2:28 802.11 wireless local area networks
Task Group e - MAC enhancements (QoS) by J Fakatselis: will
approach no voters to obtain consensus
Task Group f - Inter-Access Point Protocol by D Bagby: letter ballot
closed last night, no information on the results yet
Task Group g -data rates > 20 Mb/s @ 2.4 GHz by M Shoemake:
letter ballot 33 closed noon 291 possible voters/230 ballots received.
Result was 86/104/40, 45% yes with 852 comments to resolve.
Task Group h – spectrum managed 802.11a by Mika Group is
concentrating on DFS, letter ballot next week?
Task Group i Enhanced security mechanisms by D Halasz: goal is to
go to letter ballot by end of week
Study Group 5GSG – Globalization and Harmonization of 5 GHz by
TK Tan:
Review 802.11 documents – attempting to automate by using the web
site request
2:40 802.15 Wireless Personal Area Networks
15.1 Bluetooth Task Group (IEEE802.15-01/462r2) – B Heile:
waiting for Revcom vote on 20 March
15.2 Coexistence Task Group (IEEE802.15-01/463r0) - Shellhammer:
letter ballot should be out soon after this meeting
15.3 High Rate Task Group (IEEE802.15-01/464r0) –Barr: working
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on comment resolution for LB 12
15.4 Low Rate Task Group (IEEE802.15-01/465r0)- Heile: final
stages of comment resolution, recirculation at end of this meeting
15 SG: hearing more presentations then work PAR and 5 criteria.
2:46 Joint 802.11 & 802.15
Publicity Activity Review (IEEE802.15-01/466r0) - Petrick
802 Radio Regulatory Group Activities & Plans - Hayes
Letter sent to Minister of MIII (China)
2:59 Old Business - Kerry/Heile
Affirmation of TGg post actions from Dallas as directed by SEC
Technical motion: vote was 98/6/14, motion carries
3:05 New Business - Kerry / Heile
3:09 Adjourn joint 802.11 / 802.15 meeting and recess for WG meetings
Wednesday, 13 March 2002
10:33am WG chair called the meeting to order.
WG Chair made some announcements (IEEE802.1502080r1) concerning March
2002 Meeting Objectives and Agenda.
 Reminder – register now for the Sydney meeting.
o Credit cards will not be charged until we are close to the meeting
date
o Two hotels in Vancouver are being reserved for our next Plenary
meeting, we will request meeting space in the hotel with network
connectivity. The chair will know which one this is by Friday this
week.
 The electronic database will be the primary method used for attendance
logging.
Chair commented that two or maybe three electronic ballots are coming up.
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Ballot 16a, an un-licensed 5GHz draft standard in 802.16 is coming up,
unlicensed wireless HUMAN project.
The chair made a call for people to join the Sponsor Ballot pool.
Access to private areas of 802.15 web server is restricted to voting members.
All members can access the server during the Plenary and Interim meetings.
Two regulatory motions are coming up.
TG2 coming up with it’s first letter ballot, Steve Shellhammer will conduct a
tutorial explaining the coexistence methodology in this draft.
John Barr asked the chair about setting up an e-mail capability while at these
meetings, Bob will ask our WebMaster/DocMaster about this.
A request was made to publish full contact information like 802.11 does. We
have been not doing this due to spam problems.
Motion to approve the agenda was made by James Gilb with Ivan Reed
seconding. Hearing no objections nor discussion the agenda passed by
unanimous consent
10:52am Document list 02000r1 was reviewed for missing documents.
Hopefully by our next meeting we will have an automated document
numbering system, many did not like the 802.11 version. No document
closure of a document (i.e. document submittal) is not available. Hundreds
of numbers have gone out with no submissions in 802.11..
11:00 Elections for the working group. (Document IEEE802.15-02140r0)
Proposed 802.15 officers for the next two years.
Bob Heile Chair
Jim Allen Vice Chair
Ian Gifford Co-Vice Chair
Pat Kinney Secretary
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Rick Alfvin WebMaster/DocMaster
Mike McInnis Assistant Secretary
11:02am Ivan Reede made a motion made to approve this slate of officers, Carl
Stevenson seconded this motion. A vote was taken with the results of
37/0/0, the motion passes.
11:03am Carl Stevenson reviewed document IEEE 802.RR-02/027r2
Mid week report on radio regulatory activities. Regulatory group was
converted from an SEC Standing Committee to a Technical Advisory Group
(TAG).
Wireless coexistence added to the clause 6.2 conformance document RR01/29
A new project management clause proposal to be considered doc RR-02/42
Many issues were presented which, if you are interested in regulatory issues,
you should review this radio regulatory mid-week report and attend the
meetings.
Carl Stevenson began to make a motion to vote on RR02-049r1 regulatory
group conversion from a SEC standing group to a TAG.
Bob Heile asked if the 802.15 membership had enough time to review the
regulatory group conversion from a SEC standing group to a TAG. Anyone
who has any issues bring them to Carl Stevenson’s or Vic Hayes attention.
11:16am Steve Shellhammer reviewed document IEEE 802.15-02/138r0, a TG2
tutorial document.
Plan is to bring TG2 draft D05 to a letter ballot vote, available on server by
Thursday AM.
11:42am Steve presented slides from document 802.15-02/095r0 Opening Report
Relationship with Bluetooth SIG was reviewed. The BT SIG coexistence
working group and IEEE 802.15 TG2 will not be able to work together on a
common Adaptive Frequency Hopping (AFH) specification.
There were comments that there seems to be two groups within the BT SIG
which are working on another generation of BT radios, with 2.3 Mb/s and 10
Mb/s versions respectively.
11:48am TG3 status update, James Gilb
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The TG is still working on resolving comments.
The Security framework has been agreed upon.
There will be a vote this afternoon on security suite preferences.
11:52am TG4 status update, Jose Gutierrez
Still working on resolving comments.
Goal is by Thursday night to have zero comments left to resolve.
11:57am SG3a status update, Rick Roberts
Working on Drafting PAR and 5 Criteria.
11:59am Motion to stand and recess until Friday was made by Rick Alfvin and
seconded by Ivan Reed. Following no discussion nor objection the motion
passed by unanimous consent.
Friday, March 15, 2001
8:07 WG chair called the meeting to order
Reviewed the agenda.
Announcements: Electronic attendance is the primary method of recording
attendance.
 16.a will be going to sponsor ballot today so register for sponsor
ballot.
Old Business:
Chair reviewed document list.
8:17 Regulatory Report by C Stevenson (IEEE802.RR-01/048r0).
Motion: To request SEC to establish a Radio Regulatory TAG with charter
as per doc: RR-02/40r3.
Since the charter couldn’t be found on the web, the charter aspect was
removed from the motion.
Motion: To request SEC to establish a Radio Regulatory TAG. Request the
Chair of 802.15 to appoint 2 individuals as official Working Group
Representatives, having voting rights in the RR TAG. To grant attendance
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credit to WG members attending the RR TAG.
Moved by C Stevenson seconded by J Gilb. Discussion: Q: Chair’s
opinion? R: This is something that we need to have. Q: Charter approval?
R: SEC will approve the charter. This vote is procedural so a 50% majority
is required to pass. J Barr commented that he was concerned about how the
charter was drafted. Particularly, the TAG overriding some groups within
802. The voting result was 24/1/5, so the motion passes.
Motion: To request SEC to file the contents of RR-02/043r0 with FCC via
the ECFS and to mail required service copies to other commenters, with the
proviso that WPANs will be included as what 802 represents. ( doc: RR01/49r0)
Moved by C Stevenson seconded by P Kinney. Discussion: JB why aren’t
WPANs included in this letter? Nothing to preclude WPAN. Suggested that
the opening paragraph mention WPANs in addition to MANs and LANs. C
Stevenson agreed. Vote on the motion was taken: 27/0/2, motion passes.
8:44 Closing report for TG1 by B Heile
WG chair reported that there was no change in status for TG1.
8:45 Closing report for TG2 by S Shellhammer (IEEE802.15-02/154r0)
Motion: To send 802.15.2 draft version D05 to working group letter ballot
for the purpose of seeking approval to forward the draft to sponsor ballot.
Moved by S Shellhammer and seconded by D Cypher. Following no
discussion the vote was 29/0/1, motion passes.
8:49 Closing report for TG3 by J Barr (IEEE802.15-02/155r0).
There were no objections to the propose method of handling the draft
resolution .
9:00 Closing report for TG4 by B Heile (IEEE802.15-02/156r0).
An ad-hoc meeting in San Diego from April 15-17 was advised.
Motion: Move to empower TG4 draft committee (José , Rob, Ed, Monique,
Phil, Said, Paul, Marco, Farren, Greg) to release draft d14 for
recirculation no later than Apr 15, 2002 if it meets unanimous approval of
the committee that it is ready(all TRs resolved).
Moved by Pat Kinney, seconded by J Gutierrez. There was no discussion,
so the vote was taken with the result of 30/0/0. This vote is procedural so
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the motion passes.
9:15 Closing report for SG3a by R Roberts. (IEEE802.15-02/158r0)
Coordination with 802.11’s next generation wireless group has not happened
yet. Q: Other country regulatory status on UWB? R: CEPT and ETSI are
looking at UWB. Europe will probably rule this year similar to FCC except
upper frequency will be about 6 GHz. Japan regulatory is looking at the
FCC recommendation and will probably follow suit.
9:26 TGg liaison report by J Karaoguz (IEEE802.15-02/161r0)
Going through ballot resolution. LB33 failed 45% yes and 55% no votes
out of 231 votes with 865 comments. 75 comments have been addressed,
but only 1/3 have been resolved. TGg intends to issue new letter ballot
following Sydney in May, 2002.
The recommended use of protection mechanisms such as RTS/CTS is now
made mandatory to avoid collisions between legacy 802.11b transmissions
and 802.11g OFDM transmissions in a BSS network.
9:35 Coexistence report from Jim Lansford (birds-of-a-feather)
Numerous presentations. Proposal to form a coexistence TAG will be made
to ExCom this afternoon.
Motion: To request SEC to establish a coexistence TAG. Request the Chair
of 802.15 to appoint two individuals as official Working Group
Representatives, having voting rights in the Coexistence TAG. To grant
attendance credit to WG members attending the Coexistence TAG.
Moved by J Lansford, seconded by S Shellhammer. Following discussion
the vote was 23/2/2, motion carries.
9:49 TGe liaison report from J Bain (IEEE802.15-02/160r0)
TGe completed letter ballot 30 on 16 Jan 2002 with only 55% yes votes (so
ballot fails) with 2014 comments, but 750 of those were editorial. Status:
Down to 1168 comments of which 658 are editorial.
9:54 WNG report by B Heile.
9:57 B Heile read a letter from BRAN 27 to S Kerry and B Heile, copied to TK
Tan. This letter expressed the belief that TG3 was not a global initiative.
Erik is the official liaison to ETSI and referred to the document BRAN
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22d084.
10:10 May Interim announcement: The chair asked members intending to go the
Sydney meeting to please register now
10:15 New Business:
JEDEC liaison by Benno Ritter (IEEE802.15-02/XXX)
JC-61 Interface specification between RF and base-band and between PHY
and MAC. Formed on March 10, 2002. First priority is IEEE802.11/802.15
devices. Next meeting is April 9-10 at Newport Beach, CA. Following
meeting is in Denver, CO on May 7-8.
Motion: Establish a liaison to JEDEC JC-61 committee to monitor and
cooperate in implementation based standards activities for WPAN systems.
Moved by Benno Ritter, seconded by J Allen. Vote result was 20/0/4,
motion carries.
10:21 Joint opening session with 802.11 lead by WG chair. Ensuing discussion
focused on reducing this meeting’s length, many believed it to be of limited
value. Many comments centered around the idea of eliminating voting and
motions in an effort to reduce the length of this meeting.
Distribution of attendee list: no phone numbers or email addresses to avoid
spam. B Shvodian commented that 802.11 does include company
affiliations and addresses and he does not get spam from this listing.
Numerous comments supporting the current method of not distributing out
the list. Straw poll on need for this information? About 15 stated yes.
Straw poll in favor of making this information voluntary at the time of
registration was 20/1/3. Straw poll of people in favor of 802.11 method of
using attendance list: 19/4/1. Will try to automate the first method in time
for Sydney.
Motion: to Make WNG a joint Standing Committee of 802.11 and 802.15.
Moved by J Gilb and seconded by M Schrader. Vote was 24/0/1, motion
passes.
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11:54 Motion to adjourn was made by P Kinney, seconded by I Reede, motion
carries, meeting is adjourned until interim meeting in Sydney Australia.
Attendees of Record and percentage of attendance per Electronic Log-in
Last
Akahane
Alfvin
Allen
Allen
Arunachalam
Bailey
Bain
Bajaj
Barr
Bose
Bottoms
Bourgeois
Brabenac
Callaway
Chindapol
Conkling
Cypher
Desai
Diem
Dydyk
Ellis
Foerster
Froning
Gandolfo
Garg
Gilb
Golmie
Gonia
Gorday
Harada
Heberling
Heile
Herold
Huang
Ishii
Submission
First
Masaaki
Richard
James
James D.
Arun
Daniel Vernon
Jay
Rashmi
John
Pratik
Stan
Monique
Chuck
Ed
Aik
Craig
David
Prasanna
Darrell
Michael
Jason L
Jeff Ronald
Michael
Pierre Thierry
Atul
James
Nada
Patrick Steven
Paul
Yasuo
Allen
Robert
Barry
Bob
Katsumi
Percentage
100
100
12
100
87
100
100
87
62
100
100
100
100
100
50
75
87
87
100
100
87
75
87
100
100
100
75
75
100
100
100
100
100
100
100
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Jamieson
Karaoguz
Kiat
Kim
Kinney
Kleindl
Kuroda
Leeper
Lefkowitz
Lieman
Liu
Maa
Mason
McInnis
Meyer
Miura
Morelli
Moridi
Naeve
Ngo
PARK
Pardee
Patton
Pek-Yew
Phang
Pokrajac
Poor
Rasor
Reede
Richards
Roberts
Roberts
Rofheart
Rogers
Salloum
Salazar
Santhoff
Schantz
Schrader
Schuster
Schylander
Seals
Shellhammer
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Phil
Jeyhan
Poh Boon
Yung-Kyu
Patrick
Gunter
Masahiro
David G.
Martin
Daniel Bennett
Shawn
Yeong-Chang
Ralph
Michael D
Jim
Akira
Tony
Said
Marco
Chiu
JONGHUN
John B.
Dave
Tan
Piao Chun
Dalibor
Robert D.
Gregg
Ivan
Jim
Richard
William
Martin
Chris B
Antonio E.
100
75
75
87
87
25
12
87
12
50
37
75
75
100
25
87
100
100
100
87
75
87
25
25
75
37
50
100
100
100
100
100
87
75
25
John H
Hans Gregory
Mark
Tom
Erik
Michael
Stephen J
37
100
100
87
75
87
100
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Shepherd
Nick
Shor
Gadi
Shvodian
William
Sivaprasad P.K
Siwiak
Kazimierz
Snopko
Paul Adam
Song
Wei-Jei
Steck
William Kenneth
Sugaya
Shigeru
Takamura
Kazuhisa
Takaoka
Katsumi
Taylor
Larry
Tsuji
Hiroyuki
Van Dyck
Robert E
Vishwakarma Ritesh
Voitovich
Aleksey
Walrant
Thierry
Watanabe
Fujio
Welborn
Matthew
Wilson
Richard
Wood
Stephen Russell
Young
Song-Lin
Yves-paul
Nakache
aiello
roberto
van Leeuwen Hans
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100
100
100
100
100
12
12
37
100
100
100
100
100
62
87
62
12
75
87
100
75
100
62
87
37
Members count: 102
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