03 June 2015 Leo Bollins Clerk to the Joint Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht Leinster House Dublin 2 Ireland Dear Mr Bollins I enclose a submission to the Joint Committee in relation to the consultation on the establishment of an Electoral Commission in Ireland. If you wish to discuss the matter I can be contacted at: telephone 057-9363558, email Jimmy.McMeel@finance.gov.ie Yours sincerely Jimmy McMeel Principal Consultation on the establishment of an Electoral Commission in Ireland. Submission to the Joint Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht Name: Department of Finance (Jimmy McMeel, Principal) The Exchequer Section in the Department makes all of the payments (except those made by the NTMA) from the Central Fund. In the current context, this includes the payments to Returning Officers for the expected cost of running elections/referendums, payments for recoupment of candidates' expenses, payments to An Post in respect of election/referendum related expenditure, payments to political parties, to party leaders and independents. The Department also checks the accounts submitted by Returning Officers after elections/referendums. The above-mentioned disbursements from the Central Fund are accounted for in the annual Finance Accounts, which are prepared by the Department of Finance and for which the Secretary General of the Department is the Accounting Officer. The Department's submission takes the form of answers to the questions posed. The main point of the submission is that accountability aspects in relation to the costs of Returning Officers in conducting elections/referendums should move from the Department to the new Electoral Commission. The submission contains an annex which updates the costs in the Consultation Paper to include costs in 2014 on electoral events. The Department would be happy to appear, if needed, at a public session of the Committee. 1 Functions 1. What existing functions in the conduct and management of elections and referendums would be transferred to such a Commission? The Department of Finance has a financial role and accountability under the current arrangements for elections/referendums. The Department considers that, amongst other things, the new Electoral Commission should assume financial responsibility for the running of elections and referendums. It should be fully accountable for all expenditure on the conduct of elections and referendums and do what is necessary to that end. The establishment of a dedicated Electoral Commission would enable a more streamlined, coordinated approach in relation to the logistics involved in running elections. If the current arrangements for conducting election using Returning Officers (ROs) continue, the Commission should be given responsibility for checking the accounts of the ROs and making payments to the ROs (the Commission would be funded by the Dept. of Finance from the Central Fund). Alternatively, the Commission centrally could organise all payments and accounting on behalf of the ROs as well as other matters that are common to ROs. 2. What functions would remain with existing actors and why? As the Minister for Finance (and in certain circumstances his agent the NTMA) has the exclusive right to make disbursements from the Central Fund and assuming that funding for the Electoral Commission (certainly for election/referendum costs) would come from the Fund, this would entail a continuing function for the Minister for Finance in respect of election/referendums. However, if the Commission were given responsibility for financial matters arising from elections, the disbursement of the funding could be arranged on a much more aggregated basis compared to the current system. Operationally it might follow a combination of models: the Oireachtas Commission which is financed from the Central Fund and agencies funded from Votes of Departments. The Department of Finance considers that the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, having regard to its over-arching responsibility and expertise in public expenditure matters, should continue to have a function in approving the expenditure of an Electoral Commission at an aggregate level, the scheme for Returning Officers charges (the Charges Order) and for drawdowns from the Central Fund (for those matters financed from the Central Fund). 2 Cost 1. What is the sum of the costs incurred by all actors involved in electoral (including referendum) management? In the Department of Finance the costs are: a supervisor (50% of time) and 2 clerical staff in checking and clearing the accounts submitted by the Returning Officers which amount to €100,000 per annum (gross of pension related deduction). This is before any overheads e.g. heating, light, IT etc or superannuation. The costs charged to the Central Fund for electoral events are as set out in the Consultation Paper on the Establishment of an Electoral Commission in Ireland from the Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government. To provide more recent data this Department is now setting out 2014 costs – these are in the Appendix 2. How would and should the establishment of the Commission affect these costs? If the Electoral Commission had responsibility for checking the RO accounts, these costs would be removed from the Vote of the Department of Finance, but the tasks (or similar tasks) would probably still have to be carried out. Effectively the costs would be transferred to the Commission, but that is not an argument for not doing so. 3 Independence and accountability / Membership 1. How would the Commission's independence be promoted along with its accountability to the Houses of the Oireachtas / Government for carrying out the functions assigned to it? An appropriate balance need to be maintained between independence and accountability given the importance of elections in a democratic society. In terms of the financial aspects, which is where the Department of Finance has an involvement, independence may not be greatly impacted. Charging the cost of elections and referendums to the Central Fund rather than to a Vote is important in terms of the independence of the electoral system and this should continue. Because expenditure on the running of elections, referendums is charged directly to the Central Fund it is accounted for in the annual Finance Accounts. This means the Accounting Officer (Secretary General) of the Department of Finance is accountable, which is not wholly satisfactory as it makes him/her responsible for RO expenditure for detailed matters that nowadays are at some remove from the core functions of his/her Department. Accountability should be improved by having it reside with a person whose core functions include responsibility for the financial aspects of elections, referendums. 2. What mechanisms would be used to promote this accountability? As stated above, from the perspective of the Department of Finance, accountability would be improved by assigning financial responsibility in relation to the running of elections to an Electoral Commission and making the person in charge of that organisation accountable. The existing mechanisms for audit by the Comptroller and Auditor General and examination by the PAC would continue. In addition, the Joint Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht may wish to discuss the annual budget and business plan with the CEO of the Commission. 3. Who should be a Member and how should members of the Commission be appointed? The Department has no strong view in relation to this. 4 Establishment process 1. Should the establishment of the Commission be undertaken on a phased basis, as recommended by the report commissioned by the Department from the Geary Institute, or some other way? The Department of Finance's interest in these matters is quite narrow i.e. the financing and accountability dimensions, which arise under the current approach. It appears that the Geary report envisaged that the Commission would be established first of all and then it would come to a view on what its functions should be. It is likely that that spending on electoral events (taking the polls and counting votes cast) will be a large component of expenditure on an ongoing basis and merits consideration in a review of functions. If the process follows the Geary recommendation, this Department would expect to be consulted by the Commission when reviewing its powers and functions, given that the Department under the current approach has considerable responsibility in relation to the spending on electoral events. 2. Should it exist alongside SIPO (Standards in Public Office Commission) or within SIPO? SIPO has a role in relation to certain expenditure e.g. candidates costs which are paid from the Central Fund by the Department of Finance. The Department has no strong view in relation to this question other than as a matter of economy and operational efficiency it would be preferable to have fewer - rather than more agencies. However, the Department notes that SIPO is within the Office of the Ombudsman which has an investigative, quasi-judicial remit rather than being an operational body. Conducting elections and referendums is largely an operational activity. APPENDIX – Financial Data on 2014 Electoral Events Expenses Taking the poll for the local and European elections and counting the votes at the European elections - Returning Officers Printing - Office of Public Works (OPW) An Post – delivery of polling cards, postal ballots, candidate literature Data Ireland - (Subsidiary of An Post) Euro & Local Elections May 2014 12,123,040.15 345,826.19 10,714,869.31 55,350.00 Dublin West Bye Election - nomination process, count - Returning Officer 105,322.50 Longford Westmeath Bye Election - nomination process, count - Returning Officer 145,369.65 Reimbursement of Candidate Election Expenses Total Expenses Taking the poll and counting the votes - Returning Officers 974,124.07 24,463,901.87 Fiscal Stability Treaty May 2012 10,976,469.42 National count centre - Referendum Returning Officer 52,877.74 Printing and equipment - Office of Public Works (OPW) 183,228.10 Delivery of postal ballots and of polling cards incorporating the Statement for the Information of Voters - An Post Total Expenses Taking the poll and counting the votes - Returning Officers Printing - Office of Public Works (OPW) Delivery of polling cards and postal ballots - An Post 1,517,833.74 12,730,409.00 Dublin South West & Roscommon South Leitrim Bye Election October 2014 Dublin West & Longford Westmeath Bye Election May 2014 Seanad (Panel Members) Bye Election Oct 2014 Meath East Bye Election March 2013 512,368.56 250,692.15 4,439.19 187,601.10 15,151.39 13,112.79 64.00 5,673.58 472,205.19 300,337.52 2,676.00 246,183.84 136,002.83 700,145.29 7,179.19 33,415.29 472,873.81 Delivery of free election communications on behalf of candidates and parties - An Post Data Ireland - (Subsidiary of An Post) Reimbursement of candidate election expenses Total 9,225.00 69,600.00 1,078,550.14