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HL7 Tooling Work Group Meeting Minutes
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Facilitator Andy Stechishin
Attendee
Date: 2011-08-18
Time: 10:00 -11:00 am EDT (15:00-16:00h BST, 7:008:00h PST)
Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Name
Affiliation
Stacey Berger (SB)
City Of Hope National Medical Center
Woody Beeler (GWB)
Beeler Consulting
X
Wilfred Bonney (WB)
HL7 Tools Administrator
X
X
X
X
X
Joshua Carmody
Lorraine Constable
Jane Curry (JC)
Tim Ireland (TI)
Lynn Laakso (LL)
Abdul-Malik Shakir (AMS)
Lloyd McKenzie (LM)
Andy Stechishin (AS)
HL7 HQ Tooling Administrator
Canada Infoway
Co-Chair, Health Information Strategies
Co-Chair, NHS
HL7 HQ Tooling Support
AMS Consulting
HL7 Canada/ GPi
Co-Chair, GPi
X
Quorum Requirements Met:
Yes / No
Agenda Topics
1. Agenda review and approval
2. Approve previous meeting minutes
3. Touch base with our Tooling liaisons
a. CGIT – Rob Snelick offers regrets
b. Patient Care – Michael Van Der Zel offers regrets
c. Structured Docs – Andy
d. Templates – Jane
e. Vocab - Andy
4. Review action items at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tool-proc-arch/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=445
5. San Diego Tooling WG Slides
6. Update on Tooling Documentation
7. Update on V3 Generator Tool
8. Update on GForge retention – migration evaluation
9. Discussion on Roadmap
10. Other/New Business
a. Conference call provider pilot evaluation – please complete survey at
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/W8VLJ2H
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Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
1. Call to order 10:07 AM Agenda review by general consent
2. Approve previous meeting minutes; Jane moves approval, second by Josh; Passed 5/0/1 (Lorraine
abstains)
3. Touch base with our Tooling liaisons
a. CGIT – Rob Snelick offers regrets
b. Patient Care – Michael Van Der Zel offers regrets
c. Electronic Services – Lorraine
i. Andy notes that Lorraine is on the call to formally represent Electronic Services, and
working on action item with Andy.
ii. Jane notes that PSC has a set of instructions on adopting new processes that since
Tooling is expanding its scope we should consider using this document as a test
case in our work with Electronic Services. PSC is going to send it to the cochairs for
socialization and as it undergoes more refinement we can potentially look at it in San
Diego. Jane will organize that as the ‘default’ liaison to the SAIF AP. Action Item:
Jane to review final version with Tooling.
iii. Lorraine has no specific report items. They discussed items from the wiki page on
their last ES meeting in terms of scope between the WGs. She will continue to
coordinate with Andy but both WGs meet in the same quarter in San Diego. We’ve
tentatively scheduled Tuesday Q1 already for the ES alignment – can ES send a
representative? She’ll confirm and get back to us next week.
d. Structured Docs – Andy;
i. He attended a call a couple weeks ago without items of note but will attend again
next week. Tuesday night tooling in San Diego is all about CDA.
ii. Architecture Program meeting yesterday revealed request for another session with
Structured Docs Tuesday Q2 – Jane will forward to Andy.
e. Templates – Jane:
i. no further progress on actual tooling but have learned of a metadata management
tool used in AUS with similar characteristics to what we need for templates registry.
Looking for draft of business requirements for template registry to socialize in San
Diego and ballot informative in the next ballot cycle. Ideas from ISO 11179 on
metadata management also being considered for requirements.
ii. They would undertake actual development in conjunction with funding for shared
artifact repository. Andy asks if the PSS for business analysis for Templates project
was developed? Jane notes that John Roberts is lead on that activity and it will come
forward concurrently.
f. Vocab – Andy
i. Meeting last week discussed progress on RFI and its scope within IHTSDO
workbench or other opportunities. Wiki page is up with a couple people working on to
drive RFI forward. As they expand scope he hopes Vocabulary will keep pace with
their requirements.
g. MAX project only meets 1st Wednesday of the month
4. Action items http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tool-proc-arch/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=445
a. 1992: won’t be updated until after WGM, waiting on coordination activities and OHT updates
b. 1997: We can review proposed wiki page to update communication next week.
c. 1998: Andy has not heard anything back from Woody on his outreach to Charlie
d. 2002: ongoing, see above
e. 2003: Josh and Woody haven’t met to discuss piloting the documentation
5. Update on Tooling Documentation: Wilfred reports he’s still working on it and expects to get a draft to
Jane on Monday. Wilfred asks if Russ Hamm is still working with HL7; Jane confirms he still works with
Ted on the Vocab tool – Wilfred has not heard anything back from him. Andy asks if he hasn’t heard by
next week let them know and the cochairs will reach out, or copy the cochairs on his email request.
6. Update on V3 Generator Tool: no one has heard from Lloyd. Lorraine notes he’s still officially on holiday
as of last week.
7. Update on GForge retention policy: Josh – migration evaluation, options and cost analysis underway with
Mike. Looking to make announcement at cochair dinner that we’re looking at other options. Lynn will add
to Andy’s publishing item on cochairs agenda on CMET process for GForge retention policy and space
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8. Discussion on Roadmap: Jane notes there are a number of different threads but on this particular item
she has no update. She will be working with John Quinn on producing his update to the Board and we
have some early leads. She’s OHT liaison coordinating with architecture team in OHT and we know what
some of the elements are but mostly in the Canadian context. Need to review tools we know about from
GForge or wiki or tooling resource page to make a list for engagement processes we already have on
tools and tools design. Tackle next week?
a. Andy asks if Tooling will review what John is reporting to the Board? Jane hopes to be able
to review that with the group. Would like to have a preliminary list next week. September 2nd
is report deadline for the Board reports, for John as well as Board liaisons from T3SD.
b. Andy asks if we should push the Roadmap discussions to past the WGM. Jane agrees as
we’ll be doing tactical planning.
9. Tooling wiki page
a. Historical links should include link to historical Tuesday Tooling nights
b. Andy would like the stuff about agendas and meetings at the very top; coordinates on the
meetings on the main page and links to the agendas. Use an ‘Include’ page with the
coordinates. Good time to implement would be when the new conference call numbers are
finalized, notes Jane.
c. Jane suggests the teleconference survey remain available for whatever teleconference
service we use after the pilot concludes so that users can continue to report issues with the
teleconference provider. If we’d had something like that in the past we’d have had more
information prior to this pilot. Keeping it on the coordinates page would help. Josh will
mention it to Mike Kingery. Jane suggests we include instructions after the pilot to only use it
if we’re having problems.
d. Tooling agendas appear to be subtopic under tooling liaisons.
e. Jane offers action items for all members to review this page and offer comments and
suggestions for improvement to the listserv and address again next or the following week.
Andy suggests making comments in the page. Use the XML convention of pointy brackets or
stamp it with your name.
f. Toolsmiths and Tooling liaisons are part of how we work, notes Jane.
g. Wilfred notes that people are interested in what the tools are.
h. Jane invites the liaisons to liaise in the other direction to invite other groups to review and let
us know what they would find useful.
10. Other/New Business
a. Conference call provider pilot evaluation – please complete survey at
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/W8VLJ2H
b. Propose we not meet on the 8th. Jane will be at OHT. Only two weeks remain for our
conference calls before WGM.
Adjourned 10:58 AM EDT.
Actions
 Jane to review final version of instructions on adopting new processes with Tooling in San Diego
 All members to review the proposed Tooling WG page and offer comments and suggestions for
improvement. (see http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Talk:Tooling_Work_Group)
 Lorraine to confirm ES representative will attend Tooling meeting Tuesday Q1 at WGM.
 Jane will forward to Andy request for a session with SDWG for SAIF AP Tuesday at WGM
 Wilfred expects to get a Tooling Documentation draft to Jane on Monday
 Lynn will add to Andy’s publishing item on cochairs agenda on CMET process for GForge retention
policy and space usage
Next Meeting / Preliminary Agenda Items
 Tooling will review what John is reporting to the Board
 Need to review tools we know about from GForge or wiki or tooling resource page to make a list for
engagement processes we already have on tools and tools design.
 Web site review
 http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Conference_Call_Agenda_2011-08-25
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