23 November 2012 Section 32 Red Tape Review Policy and Legislation Branch Consumer Affairs Victoria GPO Box 123 MELBOURNE VIC 3001 By email: cav.consultations@justice.vic.gov.au Dear Sir Re: Review of Section 32 Sale of Land Act 1962 This is an important review of an important section of an important Act. The Sale of Land (Amendment) Act 1982 which introduced the concepts of vendor’s statements and cooling off was probably the most important on-going piece of legislation affecting estate agency practice in the past 40 years, with the possible exception of the Residential Tenancies Act 1980 and the Sale of Land Regulations 2004. Whilst highly controversial at the time, the 1982 amendments profoundly streamlined estate agency procedures and led to a significant increase in knowledge and skill levels, not only of agents but also of vendors and purchasers. It would therefore be inconceivable to contemplate returning to a situation where a buyer would purchase a property without seeing a copy of title, without seeing a copy of a title plan, without knowing whether a covenant restricted the use of the property or without knowing the zoning of the property. These at least are minimum disclosure matters, controversial thirty years ago but crucial, albeit mundane, today. The 1982 amendments made it necessary for agents to invest in new technology ie. a photocopier! The Act has not kept pace with technological change over the following thirty years and it remains uncertain whether a vendor’s statement is valid if it bears a photocopy of the vendor’s signature or a scanned copy. The Act refers to “a copy signed by the vendor…” The review should address this point and allow for a vendor’s statement to be provided by or on behalf of a vendor, and not requiring an original pen and ink signature. -2- The original intent of the 1982 amendments were to address matters primarily relating to the title and structures. This has been expanded unnecessarily over time to provide a quick fix political fix to some inconvenient political issues – eg. the sale of old and unserviced rural Crown Allotments in rural Victoria to unsuspecting - and uninspecting - buyers, or the clash of rural activities with “tree-changers” lifestyles. Many of these disclosures are “motherhood statement” by the Nanny State, are largely disregarded by buyers and could be abandoned. The requirements to disclose building approvals and owner builder insurances have become more onerous over the years but should remain. It is a factual statement of whether or not the vendor has complied with its various obligations under the Building Act 1993 and others. It serves an important use. Some reference is made in the discussion paper as to when the vendor’s statement must be given, and specifically whether it should be available prior to a property being offered for sale or prior to commencement of any – including verbal – negotiations. These moves should be resisted . Firstly, such moves increase red-tape, not reduce it. Secondly they restrict competition by not allowing it to commence until a later time. Thirdly it ignores the reality that many properties are in fact transacted off-market, without being formally offered to the market or advertised. The present situation requires a vendor’s statement to be provided prior to the obtaining of a written offer and Victorian law requires any sale to be evidenced in writing. There is no need to change this situation. There is a need to review the working of Section 32 (2) (c) which requires the disclosure of any zoning affecting the land but not at the same time requiring the disclosure of any planning overlay which may adversely affect a use which might otherwise be permissible under the zoning. Likewise it refers to land being “reserved” whereas modern terminology and practice would have land being subject to a Public Acquisition Overlay. The wording in the Act has not kept pace with changes in planning schemes. -3A proper vendor’s statement would quantify the amount of Council and water rates. This level of disclosure is preferred to the alternative standard of quoting a “Do Not Exceed” figure. That alternative still needs to be allowed in cases, eg. off the plan, where the property being sold is not separately assessed and rated. One of the greatest causes of delay is in obtaining the Owners Corporation Certificate, particularly in the case of a self-managed and barely functioning owners corporation. The requirements for inclusion of an Owners Corporation Certificate nevertheless should remain, if only as an encouragement for selfmanaged owners corporations to be aware of, and comply with, their obligations. No doubt there will be other more pressing issues that the Review will also consider. In summary, Section 32 of the Sale of Land Act generally works well, confers significant benefits to purchasers, vendors and agents and should continue. Some updating and some trimming of excess “padding” is now due and should be the focus of the review. It is also about time the Act became gender neutral. Yours faithfully C E CARTER & SON PTY. LTD. RICHARD CARTER Managing Director 28 November 2012 Mr. Robert Larocca Policy & Public Affairs Manager The Real Estate Institute of Victoria Ltd 335 Camberwell Road CAMBERWELL 3124 By email: rlarocca@reiv.com.au Dear Robert Re: Review of Section 32 Sale of Land Act 1962 This is an important review of an important section of an important Act. The Sale of Land (Amendment) Act 1982 which introduced the concepts of vendor’s statements and cooling off was probably the most important on-going piece of legislation affecting estate agency practice in the past 40 years, with the possible exception of the Residential Tenancies Act 1980 and the Sale of Land Regulations 2004. Whilst highly controversial at the time, the 1982 amendments profoundly streamlined estate agency procedures and led to a significant increase in knowledge and skill levels, not only of agents but also of vendors and purchasers. It would therefore be inconceivable to contemplate returning to a situation where a buyer would purchase a property without seeing a copy of title, without seeing a copy of a title plan, without knowing whether a covenant restricted the use of the property or without knowing the zoning of the property. These at least are minimum disclosure matters, controversial thirty years ago but crucial, albeit mundane, today. The 1982 amendments made it necessary for agents to invest in new technology ie. a photocopier! The Act has not kept pace with technological change over the following thirty years and it remains uncertain whether a vendor’s statement is valid if it bears a photocopy of the vendor’s signature or a scanned copy. The Act refers to “a copy signed by the vendor…” The review should address this point and allow for a vendor’s statement to be provided by or on behalf of a vendor, and not requiring an original pen and ink signature. -2- The original intent of the 1982 amendments were to address matters primarily relating to the title and structures. This has been expanded unnecessarily over time to provide a quick fix political fix to some inconvenient political issues – eg. the sale of old and unserviced rural Crown Allotments in rural Victoria to unsuspecting - and uninspecting - buyers, or the clash of rural activities with “tree-changers” lifestyles. Many of these disclosures are “motherhood statement” by the Nanny State, are largely disregarded by buyers and could be abandoned. The requirements to disclose building approvals and owner builder insurances have become more onerous over the years but should remain. It is a factual statement of whether or not the vendor has complied with its various obligations under the Building Act 1993 and others. It serves an important use. Some reference is made in the discussion paper as to when the vendor’s statement must be given, and specifically whether it should be available prior to a property being offered for sale or prior to commencement of any – including verbal – negotiations. These moves should be resisted . Firstly, such moves increase red-tape, not reduce it. Secondly they restrict competition by not allowing it to commence until a later time. Thirdly it ignores the reality that many properties are in fact transacted off-market, without being formally offered to the market or advertised. The present situation requires a vendor’s statement to be provided prior to the obtaining of a written offer and Victorian law requires any sale to be evidenced in writing. There is no need to change this situation. There is a need to review the working of Section 32 (2) (c) which requires the disclosure of any zoning affecting the land but not at the same time requiring the disclosure of any planning overlay which may adversely affect a use which might otherwise be permissible under the zoning. Likewise it refers to land being “reserved” whereas modern terminology and practice would have land being subject to a Public Acquisition Overlay. The wording in the Act has not kept pace with changes in planning schemes. -3A proper vendor’s statement would quantify the amount of Council and water rates. This level of disclosure is preferred to the alternative standard of quoting a “Do Not Exceed” figure. That alternative still needs to be allowed in cases, eg. off the plan, where the property being sold is not separately assessed and rated. One of the greatest causes of delay is in obtaining the Owners Corporation Certificate, particularly in the case of a self-managed and barely functioning owners corporation. The requirements for inclusion of an Owners Corporation Certificate nevertheless should remain, if only as an encouragement for selfmanaged owners corporations to be aware of, and comply with, their obligations. No doubt there will be other more pressing issues that the Review will also consider. In summary, Section 32 of the Sale of Land Act generally works well, confers significant benefits to purchasers, vendors and agents and should continue. Some updating and some trimming of excess “padding” is now due and should be the focus of the review. It is also about time the Act became gender neutral. Yours faithfully C E CARTER & SON PTY. LTD. RICHARD CARTER Managing Director