Timber Treatment Survey A report to the Department of Building and Housing on the results of a survey of the building industry into the use of treated framing April 2008 308870169 Preface This report presents the findings from a survey of the building industry into attitudes, preferences, site practices and opinions in regard to the current systems involved in timber treatment in New Zealand. Within this report, the following abbreviated terms are used: Department – the Department of Building and Housing Building Code (or ‘Code’) – the New Zealand Building Code Treaters (or ‘treatment plants’) – those involved in the treatment of timber Other suppliers – those involved in retailing treated timber framing or other timber products Specifiers – architects, engineers and other designers involved in specifying timber, including treatments and grades, to be used in building work. Builders – those involved, as construction companies, small building firms or carpenters, in using treated timber framing in buildings Assessors – Building Officials, Building Surveyors and other consultants involved in inspecting or assessing buildings during or after construction BCA – building consent authority (the local council that issues building consents and carries out inspections during construction) i 308870169 Contents 1. 2. Page Introduction ............................................................................................... 1 The survey responses ................................................................................. 1 2.1 Industry details ...................................................................................................... 1 2.2 Industry groups ...................................................................................................... 1 2.2.1 Industry sub-groups....................................................................................... 2 2.3 The survey questions............................................................................................... 2 2.3.1 3. Industry details ............................................................................................. 2 The hazard classes ..................................................................................... 3 3.1 Clarity of class distinctions ....................................................................................... 3 3.1.1 Notable patterns ............................................................................................ 4 3.1.2 Related comments ......................................................................................... 4 3.2 Treatment choices................................................................................................... 4 3.2.1 Notable patterns ............................................................................................ 5 3.2.2 Related comments ......................................................................................... 5 3.3 Timber identification ................................................................................................ 6 3.3.1 3.3.2 4. Notable patterns ............................................................................................ 7 Related comments ......................................................................................... 7 Handling LOSP treated timber .................................................................... 9 4.1 Safe flash-off .......................................................................................................... 9 4.1.1 Notable patterns ........................................................................................... 10 4.2 Waiting for flash-off ............................................................................................... 10 4.2.1 Notable patterns ........................................................................................... 11 4.3 Comments on site practices..................................................................................... 11 4.3.1 4.3.2 4.3.3 4.3.4 4.3.5 5. Boron treated timber ................................................................................ 13 5.1 Support for H3.1 boron ........................................................................................... 13 5.2 Related comments ................................................................................................. 13 5.2.1 5.2.2 5.2.3 5.2.4 5.2.5 6. Treatment plants .......................................................................................... 11 Other suppliers ............................................................................................. 11 Specifiers..................................................................................................... 12 Building group .............................................................................................. 12 BCA’s and other consultants ........................................................................... 12 Treatment plants .......................................................................................... 13 Other suppliers ............................................................................................. 13 Specifiers..................................................................................................... 14 Building group .............................................................................................. 14 BCA’s and assessors ...................................................................................... 14 Using treated timber framing ................................................................... 15 6.1 Maximum exposure ................................................................................................ 15 6.1.1 Treatment plants .......................................................................................... 15 6.1.2 Other suppliers ............................................................................................. 15 6.1.3 Specifiers..................................................................................................... 16 6.1.4 Building group .............................................................................................. 16 6.1.5 BCA’s and other consultants ........................................................................... 16 6.2 Site-applied treatments .......................................................................................... 17 6.2.1 6.2.2 7. Apparent patterns ......................................................................................... 17 Related comments ........................................................................................ 18 Quality control branding ........................................................................... 19 7.1 Brand familiarity and use ........................................................................................ 19 7.2 Brand use ............................................................................................................. 19 7.2.1 Comments ................................................................................................... 19 7.3 Brand effectiveness ................................................................................................ 19 7.3.1 7.3.2 Apparent patterns ......................................................................................... 20 Comments ................................................................................................... 20 ii 308870169 8. Related issues .......................................................................................... 21 8.1 Health .................................................................................................................. 21 8.1.1 Health concerns ............................................................................................ 21 8.1.2 Other comments ........................................................................................... 22 8.1.3 Patterns ...................................................................................................... 22 8.2 Untreated timber ................................................................................................... 22 8.2.1 Supporting treatment .................................................................................... 23 8.2.2 Alternatives to treated timber......................................................................... 23 8.3 Treatment practices and quality ............................................................................... 23 8.4 Information ........................................................................................................... 24 8.5 Expense ................................................................................................................ 25 8.6 Other issues .......................................................................................................... 25 Appendices ....................................................................................................... 26 The survey questionnaire ................................................................................................ 26 Responses to survey questions ........................................................................................ 30 Charts Page Chart 1 Industry categories .................................................................................................. 2 Chart 2 Questions 2 and 3: hazard classes and treatment choices ............................................. 3 Chart 3 Question 2: understanding Hazard classes .................................................................. 3 Chart 4 Framing treatment choices ........................................................................................ 4 Chart 5 Question 10: Current identification systems ................................................................ 7 Chart 6 Question 4: indications of LOSP flash-off ..................................................................... 9 Chart 7 Other issues on handling LOSP treated timber ............................................................ 10 Chart 8 Question 5: Waiting for flash-off ............................................................................... 11 Chart 9 Likely use of H3.1 boron .......................................................................................... 13 Chart 10 Maximum exposure limits ....................................................................................... 15 Chart 11 Site-applied treatments ......................................................................................... 17 Chart 12 Site-applied treatments – further breakdown ............................................................ 18 Chart 13 Trademark timber brands ....................................................................................... 19 Chart 14 Quality assurance timber brands ............................................................................. 19 Chart 15 Effectiveness of timber brands ................................................................................ 20 Tables Page Table 1 Responses ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1 Table 2 Wall framing hazard classes ------------------------------------------------------------------- 30 Table 3 Wall framing timber treatments --------------------------------------------------------------- 30 Table 4 Indications of LOSP flash off ------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Table 5 Waiting for LOSP flash off ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Table 6 H3.1 boric treatment --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Table 7 Maximum exposure times ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 32 Table 8 Site-applied treatments ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 32 Table 9 Current systems of identification -------------------------------------------------------------- 32 Table 10 Familiarity with trademarks ------------------------------------------------------------------ 33 Table 11 Checking for trademarks --------------------------------------------------------------------- 33 Table 12 Effectiveness of trademarks ------------------------------------------------------------------ 33 iii 308870169 1. Introduction The Department is in the process of reviewing whether treated framing meets the needs and expectations of the building and construction sector, and whether it has simple and clear selection, identification and handling requirements. As part of this review, the Department has sought feedback from the building and construction sector on: choices for treated framing handling LOSP timber boron treatments weather exposure timber identification and quality assurance. In February 2008, the Department invited responses to a short survey on the supply and use of treated framing timber; to be submitted by 14 April 2008. Responses took the form of a simple questionnaire that could be quickly completed, with additional comments added as wished. 2. The survey responses The target audience of the survey were those people working in the building and construction industry rather than homeowners, and the survey was therefore advertised on the Department’s website. 2.1 Industry details Feedback was received from various parts of the industry, as shown below: Table 1 Responses Group Timber supply stage (‘Suppliers’) Design stage (‘Specifiers’) Construction stage (‘Building group’) Inspection/assessment stage (‘Assessors’) Categories Numbers Treatment plants Suppliers/merchants Timber supply – other(1) Total suppliers Designers Engineers Total specifiers Construction companies Small builders Pre-nail/manufacturing Joinery shops Construction - other Total builders Building officials Consultants/surveyors Total assessors TOTAL RESPONSES 14 5 6 25 33 7 40 53 52 11 7 3 126 60 5 65 256 Note 1: includes 2 producers of non-radiata species. As shown in Table 1, construction companies and small builders were the largest group at more than 40% of total responses, followed by BCA building officials at almost 20%. However, it should be noted that a response from a merchant came from a support group representing the views of 93 retail outlets1, and this should be taken into account when considering the results of the survey. 2.2 Industry groups For simplicity, each individual category has been grouped into four broad classifications that represent the stages that framing timber is dealt with – from the supply stage through to the This response has not been treated as 93 responses as the survey particularly aims to assess the view of those people actively involved in working with timber and it was considered that inclusion as 93 retailers would unduely weight the analysis away from this aim. Responses were also received from several of the outlets represented. 1 1 308870169 timber in place (both during construction and later in a building’s life). Each group has varying degrees of involvement in handling timber2, which can be expected to influence responses. 2.2.1 Industry sub-groups When appropriate in the following analysis, the main groups revert to more detailed categories to allow investigation of apparent patterns applying to particular survey questions or comments. The following colours are used to represent the industry groups and sub-groups: Timber supply stage greens Design stage purples Construction stage oranges Inspection/assessment stage blues All survey responses grey For consistency and ease of understanding, the colours used for each group and sub-group are repeated throughout the charts in this report. 2.3 The survey questions A copy of the survey form is provided in the Appendix on page 26, and this shows the range of questions posed to the industry. The responses to each question are also provided in the Appendix in the form of a full set of tables at page 30. This report explores the responses to each question, together with associated comments. 2.3.1 Industry details Participants were provided with a range of alternatives and asked to select which suited their involvement in the industry, and the following chart provides the overall results for: Question 1. What best describes your involvement in the construction industry? % of total responses Chart 1 Industry categories 50% 49% Industry details 40% 30% 25% 20% 16% 23% 21% 20% 10% 10% SPECIFICATION CONSTRUCTION 2% Total assessors 1% Consultants/surveyors Small builders Construction co's Total specifiers Engineers Designers Total suppliers TIMBER SUPPLY STAGE 3% Building officials Timber supply - other 4% Total builders Suppliers/merchants 3% Construction - other 2% Joinery shops 2% 0% Pre-nail/manufacturing 5% Treatment plants 13% ASSESSMENT Some selected more than one category3, and these combinations are included within the most appropriate group as ‘other’. For instance, designers are responsible for specifying different types of timber, but are unlikely to be involved in physically working with it. 3 For instance, prenail/joinery/manufacturing. 2 2 308870169 3. The hazard classes This section of the report considers the understanding of current treatment level requirements, whether more or less choice is wanted, and considers the adequacy of current identification systems. The following chart provides the overall results for: Question 2. Are the differences between H1.1, H1.2, H3.1 and H3.2 clear to you? Question 3. Do you require more or less choice in timber treatments for framing? % of total responses Chart 2 Questions 2 and 3: hazard classes and treatment choices 80% Treatment choices 77% 61% 60% 35% 40% 20% 20% 3% 3% 0% Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Want less choice Q2: FRAMING HAZARD CLASSES 3.1 Want no change Want more choice Q3: TIMBER FRAMING TREATMENTS Clarity of class distinctions As shown in Chart 2, 20% were unclear on differences between the hazard classes required for timber framing, so answers were categorised by group (and sub-group) in order to explore any significant differences between them. The following shows the results of that analysis. Chart 3 Question 2: understanding Hazard classes ALL RESPONSES ASSESSORS BUILDING GROUP SPECIFIERS SUPPLIERS Differences between H1.1, H1.2, H3.1 and H3.2 Clear on differences 88% Unclear on differences 12% Not answered Clear on differences 90% Unclear on differences 8% Not answered 3% 73% Clear on differences Unclear on differences 74% 23% Not answered all suppliers treatersonly 3% Clear on differences all building group builders only all assessors BCA's only 69% Unclear on differences 26% Not answered 5% Clear on differences 77% Unclear on differences 20% Not answered 3% 0% 20% 40% 3 60% 80% 100% % of group 308870169 There are no significant differences between any of the groups and the sub-groups within them. 3.1.1 Notable patterns As shown, designers appear to have the greatest level of understanding of requirements, followed by suppliers – with the building and assessment groups having the lowest. 3.1.2 Related comments In order to explore this lack of clarity within some groups, associated comments have been considered. Although few explained their answers, the following summarised comments provides some possible reasons for confusion. a) Specifiers The two classes within H1 and H3 cause confusion b) Builders There is confusion between H3.1 and H3.2, and it is hard to distinguish their use. c) Assessors 3.2 Most builders rely on information from suppliers with vested commercial interests, and have no idea of treatment requirements. While you may theoretically understand, you cannot confirm on site and MSG grading has added to the confusion. Treatment choices As shown in Chart 2, 35% of those surveyed wanted no change to the choice available in timber treatments. The answers were categorised and the following shows the results of that analysis. Chart 4 Framing treatment choices 57% SUPPLIERS Want less choice SPECIFIERS Choice in timber treatments 43% Want no change 32% Want more choice all suppliers treatersonly 4% Not answered all building group builders only all assessors BCA's only 4% Want less choice 45% Want no change 45% Want more choice 10% 59% Want less choice 60% 39% Want no change 37% ASSESSORS Want more choice Want less choice ALL RESPONSES BUILDING GROUP 60% Want less choice 2% 74% Want no change 25% Not answered 2% 61% Want no change 35% Want more choice 3% Not answered 1% 0% 20% 40% 60% 4 80% 100% % of group 308870169 3.2.1 Notable patterns As shown, BCA’s and assessors indicated the highest preference for less choice, followed by treatment plants and builders (at similar levels). Interestingly, the lowest preference for less choice came from designers – with 45% wanting no change and 10% wanting more choice (the highest of the groups). Reasons for this are indicated in their associated comments. 3.2.2 Related comments In order to explore the patterns outlined above, associated comments have been considered. Many comments were made on this question, and the comments have been grouped, amalgamated and summarised in the following. a) Treaters Almost all suppliers only treat to H1.2, so H1.1 should be deleted as an option. LOSP does not need H3.1 classification H1.1 and H3.1 is not needed for CCA treatment b) Other suppliers General – less choice Choices need rationalising, with fewer treatment levels to choose from. The old system of treatment was adequate - we don't need all these different grades. This survey sidesteps the issue of what level is necessary for the levels of risk. Specific suggestions for simplification There is little difference between H1.2 and H3.1 so delete H3.1. Use H2 as a class. Just have options of untreated and H3.1. 2 choices for house framing should be sufficient. More choice wanted We need to accept durable alternative species. c) Specifiers General – less choice Need to get back to the former simple method. There are too many types for suppliers to stock, and only the most common are usually available anyway. Timber gradings are also confusing. Specific suggestions for simplification Only 2 levels for framing are needed - H1.2 and H3.2. Just have 3 treatments - wall framing, outside above ground, in-ground The old system of H1 to H5 was easier to understand. Use H4 and 5 for exterior, H1 and 2 for framing. There is little understanding of H3.1 vs. H3.2, and the 2 classes have caused confusion. More choice wanted Alternate species (such as cypress, Australian hardwoods, Douglas fir, totara etc.) should be clearly available, with equivalency to treatment levels established. We should have the choice of using untreated naturally durable timber, such as Douglas fir or Cypress species. d) Building group General – less choice The system needs rationalising, as the numbers and types are confusing. We need fewer, easier options to reduce confusion and risks from inappropriate use and application. Any simplification would be helpful and cost-effective. We need total simplicity - the simpler the better onsite. A single treatment regime would be good for framing timber as this would be more efficient for builders who cut their own frames and would also be cost effective for merchants. We need to simplify treatments, as the current system is too complex and leads to errors. There are increased risks of getting it wrong with too many products and treatments, along with time delays, availability problems and lack of knowledge. Go back to what we used to have and make it idiot-proof. Go back to simple grading/ treatment options. Stop reinventing the wheel and go back to simple choices. Basic radiata pine treatment and uses should be included in 3604 - and simplified to reflect availability of products. We should not be afraid of accepting that H3.1 was overkill and was in excess of what is required. 5 308870169 Specific suggestions for simplification We need a simple scale without decimal points to avoid confusion. A simpler system like the past system would be better - C1 (Boron) C3 (Tanalised) C4 (Ground retention) and C5 (Contact with water). The old system of H1 boric, H3 tanalised, H4 ground and H5 marine was simple and easy. We should go back to the old system of H1 and H3. We need only 1 treatment per level i.e. H1.2 & H3.2. Can these not cover the lower numbers per level? Combine H1.1 and H1.2, as there is little H1.1 produced. There is no need for H3.1 – so just have H1.2 for framing and H3.2 for exterior uses. We only need boric for general framing and tanalised for exterior use. We should only have H1.2 boron for all framing - then CCA for exterior use. Keep it simple with green tanalised (external use) and pink (framing) 2 choices for house framing should be sufficient. Just have 2 treatments, boron and tanalised. What was wrong with Boric and Tanalised (CCA) and fillet drying? There is little difference between H1.2 and H3.1 so delete H3.1. H3.1 should be taken off the market - it gets used in wrong places all the time. Other suggestions: Reduce choice to just 3 - H1 wall framing, H3 above ground, H4 in-ground. All framing timber should be H3.2 or better as it is cheap insurance. If treatment is needed - use H3.1. Just have options of untreated and H3.1. Scale back to choice of treatment free, H1.2 or H3.2. Have H3.1 boron for general framing, H3.2 for tanalised, then H4 and H5 Other Simplification is urgent, but it should be carefully thought out and not be done in series of incremental steps. Don't combine H1.2 and H3.1, as this will affect the price of the majority of framing as retention requirement for H1.2 would have to be raised to H3.1 level (or to an intermediate level). Builders rely on designers to specify treatment type/level. Timber for group houses is pre-ordered and builders just use what arrives onsite. e) BCA’s and other consultants General – less choice Reduce choices to stop owners/ builders using cheapest options without understanding limitations. If treatment meets H1 or H3, then up to treaters to make product perform to requirements without complications. Keep it simple - less errors. Simplification is key to improving current situation. We need only a few basic treatments - of higher level than required rather than less in order to be idiot proof. Users do not read the instructions or care about limitations, as they only consider cost. Any changes to system must be easy to use on site - current system is too complicated. The selection of grades and treatments needs to be simplified as there is too much complexity for very little benefit. The system is too complex – we need simple and robust grades. Simplified treatments/uses will be cost effective and helpful. Too many timber treatments are confusing to builders and owners. Too many choices lead to a risk on site where timber orders are not correct and incorrect timber is used up to avoid returning or reordering. Fewer choices would lead to less confusion and fewer problems (e.g. using H3.1 wrongly). With the problems we are still having, this might be cheaper in the long run. Past health scares did not warrant the knee jerk reaction to changing the original treatment systems and allowing untreated framing. Specific suggestions for simplification We should use one treatment level (H3.2) - to stop confusion and save costs of replacing rotting timber - extra cost about $1,000 (max) which is good insurance against leaking. Have just 1 grade for all house framing (rather than allowing untreated in bathrooms, kitchens etc). We need just one class for all framing H3, then H4 and H5 for outside etc. Require H3.2 for all at-risk framing and get rid of H3.1. If H3.2 is used everywhere, many problems will be solved as there would be no confusion. Should just be H3 to prevent builders using H3.1 in wrong places e.g. deck joists. It was much easier when just had 1 good grade timber No change wanted 3.3 Except for providing a boron option to H3.1, leave things as they are. Everybody is now used to the new numbering, so why change again. Timber identification This part of the questionnaire aimed to gauge opinion on the current systems of timber markings and identification of both treatment levels and gradings. 6 308870169 The original range of answers has been reduced from 6 to 3 so that the pattern of responses can be more easily identified and understood. The results for ‘very inadequate’ and ‘inadequate’ are therefore merged as ‘inadequate’, ‘somewhat inadequate’ and ‘somewhat adequate’ are merged as ‘neutral’ and ‘adequate’ and ‘very adequate’ are merged as ‘adequate’. The following chart shows responses to: Question 10. How would you rate the current systems of framing timber identification? % of category Chart 5 Question 10: Current identification systems 60% Adequacy of current identification systems 58% 60% 48% 50% 51% 44% 40% Suppliers Treaters Specifiers Building group Builders Assessors BCA's All responses 50% 40% 43% 40% 36% 32% 30% 31% 28% 27% 20% 20% 16% 14% 17% 9% 10% 10% 7% 0% Inadequate Neutral Adequate 3.3.1 Notable patterns As shown, those in the building and assessment groups (who need to use or inspect framing timbers) showed general dissatisfaction with current practices and systems. More designers were neutral in their judgement of the current systems, while suppliers showed the opposite pattern to that for builders and assessors. The pattern is particularly distinct for treaters, with few considering the systems inadequate. 3.3.2 Related comments This question also elicited many associated comments – particularly by those groups expressing dissatisfaction with the current systems. a) Treaters H3.1 should not be green, as it should differ from H3.2 CCA timber b) Other suppliers The colour dye method is ineffective, with the individual piece inkjet/indent marking complex and difficult due to the number of options (H1.2 boron / LOSP, H3.1, H3.2, untreated). Reducing the number of framing treatment options to one would help to provide permanent piece marking. The industry needs total simplicity in all aspects of treatment and identification/branding. It is difficult to identify NZO H1.2 onsite. c) Specifiers The colours are a problem - especially green H3.2 CCA timber and green H3.1. We should ensure that nothing but green colour can be used outside (I have seen decks built from the wrong timber). The system should be foolproof - pink inside, green outside - or mark up length of timber with rating Identification is too difficult and dyes are not distinctive enough. It is difficult in practice to work out treatment on site as markings are usually hard to read after timber has been exposed to the weather. There are instances where the lack of markings meant that samples needed testing. We must have clear dyes or clear labeling. This is a major problem. There is inconsistent application, with far too much timber simply stating Machine graded and not to what level. Colour alone is inadequate and end marks are cut off or hidden. Each length should be marked to allow sure identification with the branding on the edge. We need clear colour coding - for a particular treatment. There is too much confusion between treatments and grades. A site guide would be very useful. 7 308870169 d) Building group General Marking on 'stick' ends is inadequate as ends brands are cut off and dyes fade. We need better marking down the entire length to make it easier for builders and inspectors to clearly see that the correct treatment is used - with grades and treatment information good enough to last the framing life in the building. Framing treatment level/type is hard to check - especially on precut frames as there are no offcuts on site for end grain inspection. Markings must be easy to distinguish for 6 months for staff and BCA. We need clear colours that are not confusing. But decking also needs to be clear or stained. Framing should be face or edge branded to a single standard so treatment can be identified insitu. Ideally colour coded (stripes/dots) for easy ID as branding can be cut off for dwangs and blocking. When H1.2 was brought out this was to be BLUE now there is everything from Pink, to Clear. The blue colour fades very quickly - becoming very easy to confuse with greens. One marking standard should be used throughout, and legends of previous markings should be readily available (prior 2003 NZS). Simplifying choices Rationalisation would help. We need less choice with more distinct markings on timber, so when exposed to elements for a year or so we can still see treatment without testing. Keep it simple - green tanalised (external) and pink (internal) – “enough bush carpenters out there without you lot confusing them”. It used to be simple, but there are too many variables now and too many colours. H3.1 and H3.2 have created confusion and could be numbered differently, leaving H3 as suitable for exterior use. Types and uses are very complex - made worse by compatibility issues with wraps. A lot of guys mix all the timber treatments up - they just don't care or don’t know e) BCA’s and other consultants On site identification of timber treatment and grade is one of the biggest problems for building officials. We also need better systems to be able to identify aged or weathered framing. The system is unreliable, with fewer than 5% building officials aware of markings. A high number are colour blind and rely on pre-cutter/builder getting it right. Give users less choices and make the choices very clear on site, with proper labeling and not relying on colours. The marking system is inadequate as end brands are cut off or hidden – meaning that BCAs cannot confirm treatment/grading on site. LOSP H3.1 has tags stapled to ends and clear finish, so that if the tag is removed, the treatment is impossible to identify. Markings for grading often run, some stamps are difficult to read, and some suppliers make poor attempts to identify treatment and grading. We need clear length markings on treatment levels and grading, which must be very simple and easy to understand. They should be running brands to show treatment, plant number and timber grade (as end brands are cut off or hidden). Better treatment is ID needed to ensure in-service treatment can be easily identifiable. We need simple and robust identification methods, and need to minimize treatment types and grades. Colours should be clearer and distinguish in-ground, exterior/subfloor use, and all other framing members. 8 308870169 4. Handling LOSP treated timber This section explores the survey participants’ practices and comments relating to the use of LOSP treated timber during the construction process. 4.1 Safe flash-off Those involved in handling LOSP treated timber were asked to indicate how they assured themselves of the safety of the framing they were handling: Question 4. How do you know that the LOSP treatment has flashed off to a safe level? The following chart shows the signs outlined by those for whom the question was relevant. Chart 6 Question 4: indications of LOSP flash-off Signs that LOSP has flashed off to safe level Unsure/don't know 12% 14% SUPPLIERS Lack of smell 7% Dry to touch Suppliers treatersonly 20% all building group builders only all assessors BCA's only 20% Supplier's responsibility 20% Appearance/colour 4% 14% 12% Length of time drying Unsure/don't know BUILDING GROUP 44% 25% Lack of smell Dry to touch 28% 13% 17% Supplier's responsibility Appearance/colour 18% 9% Length of time drying 3% Unsure/don't know 28% 25% ASSESSORS Lack of smell Dry to touch 29% 12% Supplier's responsibility 3% Appearance/colour 11% Length of time drying 2% ALL RESPONSES Unsure/don't know 32% Lack of smell 26% Dry to touch 13% Supplier's responsibility 12% Appearance/colour 9% Length of time drying 4% 0% 10% 20% 30% 9 40% 50% % of group 308870169 4.1.1 Notable patterns As shown, many (in particular, half of the builders) indicated that they either could not tell, or could not be sure that the timber was safe to handle. Significant numbers also indicated that they either did not use or tried to avoid using LOSP-treated timber, while many considered that this issue was not relevant or applicable to their everyday jobs. For simplicity, these issues have been separated out, and are shown in the following chart. Chart 7 Other issues on handling LOSP treated timber SUPPLIERS Do not know Whether LOSP has flashed off 4% Cannot be sure 8% Not applicable to job Not answered 8% Do not use LOSP 16% SPECIFIERS Do not know 10% Cannot be sure 8% Not applicable to job 45% Not answered 3% ASSESSORS BUILDING GROUP Do not use LOSP 13% Do not know 31% Cannot be sure 13% Not applicable to job Not answered 11% Do not use LOSP 8% Do not know 14% Cannot be sure 14% Not applicable to job 26% Not answered 9% ALL RESPONSES Do not use LOSP 2% Do not know 21% Cannot be sure 12% Not applicable to job 15% Not answered 9% Do not use LOSP 8% 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% % of group As shown, many designers and assessors consider that flash-off issues are not relevant to their particular jobs. It is interesting to note the percentage of suppliers who do not use LOSP treated timber. Of the 4 suppliers who this applied to, 2 were treatment plants that treated with boron, 1 was a Douglas Fir producer and the other supplied reconstituted wood products. 4.2 Waiting for flash-off The other factor important in working safely with LOSP treatment is whether those who handle the timber wait until the timber has flashed off. The following chart shows responses from those who work with LOSP treated timber to: 10 308870169 Question 5. How often do you wait until LOSP treatment has flashed off before you start handling/working with the timber? % of category Chart 8 Question 5: Waiting for flash-off Waiting for LOSP to flash off before using 78% 80% Suppliers Treaters Building group Builders Assessors BCA's All responses 83% 69% 60% 54% 38% 40% 20% 16% 14% 13% 10% 17% 8% 0% Generally don't wait Sometimes wait Generally wait 4.2.1 Notable patterns The most notable patterns shown by Chart 8 are the differences between suppliers and builders, with most builders not waiting for flash off and most suppliers waiting. In particular, less than 10% of builders consistently waited for flash off, and almost 75% rarely or only occasionally waited. Those builders who said that they did not know how to tell whether LOSP has flashed off to a safe level were correlated to those who did not usually wait – and it was found that almost 30% of builders do not know and do not wait. 4.3 Comments on site practices Comments mainly related to how people knew that the timber had flashed off – and are summarised in the following. 4.3.1 Treatment plants We use specially designed sheds and have strict controls/monitoring of flash off times, filleting, and product release procedures. Monitor employees' exposure levels and also adhesion of paint to treated timber. Any effective flash-off regime for LOSP is uncertain – and we have engaged an independent expert to undertake further research on demonstrable advantages achieved by filleting. All timber should always be flashed off properly by suppliers. We work on 7 days flash off and filleting of every 2nd layer, which is done in an open area with air flow assisting evaporation of white spirit. All LOSP treated products should be treated in fully fillets form to allow best possible flash off post treatment. Regimes of drying times are set. Verification is provided by way of stickers on packets of timber. 4.3.2 Other suppliers Some treaters are notifying users by way of a letter or packet sticker. This responsible development to provide information could become standard practice, and some suppliers/users see benefit in this, although some are not supportive. We expect timber to be fit for purpose, of acceptable quality, properly flashed off and to meet all relevant standards and regulations. Users should request a guarantee that Code of Practice has been complied with. However the product is treated and flashed off, appropriate protective equipment is required for all treated products. LOSP refers to the process, but the same level can be achieved with other processes. 11 308870169 4.3.3 Specifiers LOSP treatment should not be used as it is not safe, even after flash off. I never specify, as the solvents and chemicals are toxic. 4.3.4 Building group a) Indications An irritation in nose, eyes and throat is early indication that timber has not flashed off. I have instant asthmatic reaction to vapour and dust. I am unwell and dozy if the timber is handled too soon. All packets of timber are uncovered and left to weather. Colour fading indicates that the solvents have flashed off. The residual solvent vapours have dissipated. b) Reliance on suppliers I rely on the merchant, and have never had a problem. The supplier refuses to supply timber until it is properly flashed off. It should be the merchant’s responsibility to ensure that the product is safe. I rely on the retailer to supply a product that is fit for use. Timber should be safe to handle when leaving factory and it should not be on sale or delivered unless properly flashed off. Users should request a guarantee that Code of Practice has been complied with. I take what comes from retailers. You have to use what is available. It should be sorted at the timber yard - we have to trust suppliers. I assume it is flashed off and the timber is OK when it arrives. c) General problems Although you have to trust that the product is safe, fumes are sometimes overpowering when the pack is opened and then you know. Sometimes painters won't touch the stuff. If you order a packet of timber it is because you want to use it. There are some places in Auckland where you cannot leave timber lying loose over night. We are always under pressure for deadlines so must use the timber when it is received. LOSP is problematic to handle – and it doesn't react well with water based glues/primers etc (which generally fail). LOSP should not be used in joinery. It is the worst product I have ever dealt with. The guidelines are too vague. Odour is not a reliable test. You don't know for sure as it is sometimes hard to tell whether the timber is safe. I try to avoid and use untreated NZ Oregon instead. I mainly use CCA timber. I try not to use LOSP timber at all. LOSP timber is never safe to handle. I avoid using LOSP at all now and would prefer to see it removed. I do not use it as it is pure poison and should be banned. Builders are unlikely to think about whether timber flashed off. I did not know about flashing off. 4.3.5 BCA’s and other consultants Being a building Inspector, by the time I get to site framing has (or should have) been standing for a reasonable amount of time. LOSP should not be allowed in the market. Any treatment requiring special handling, and which is documented as a health risk, should be removed from the market. BRANZ and Timber Preservation Council seminars have provided advice. Timber should not be delivered until it is flashed off. The average builder does not even know what flashed off means. You can never be completely sure - this is a big problem. I do not understand 'flashed off'. What is 'flashed off'? 12 308870169 5. Boron treated timber 5.1 Support for H3.1 boron The following chart shows responses to: Question 6. If a boron-based treatment was available for the H3.1 treatment class for timber framing, would you use it? ALL RESPONSES ASSESSORS BUILDING GROUP SPECIFIERS SUPPLIERS Chart 9 Likely use of H3.1 boron 43% Would use 56% Boron-based H3.1 framing 36% 28% Would not use 21% 16% Not answered Would use 88% Would not use 5% Not answered 8% Would use 77% 18% Would not use Not answered 20% 3% Would use 77% Would not use 12% Not answered 11% Would use 77% Would not use 16% Not answered 7% 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% % of group The overall support is for boron-based H3.1 framing is high, with more than 75% saying that they would use it. This is significantly less for suppliers – due to the support from treaters at only 43%. 5.2 Related comments A number of people limited their support for using boron-based H3.1 by outlining certain provisos, while others stated that they would not use it. Comments help to explain reasons, and have been grouped and summarised in the following. 5.2.1 Treatment plants a) Support Providing it is as effective. Douglas Fir treater - Would provide H3.1 if the market demanded, but is it really needed? H1.2 boron should provide sufficient protection. b) Do not support The H3 level is overkill for wall framing. It may get around some handling problems, but why introduce extra chemical when it is not needed? It would be best to get rid of H3.1. Do we need a H3.1 treatment when LOSP should be rated to H3.2 the same as in Australia. This would only provide limited protection from decay, as boron is prone to leaching and we don’t know how long it would last. Boron is not appropriate for H3. 5.2.2 Other suppliers a) Support 3640 Amdmt 3 specifies H3.1 boron, provided an oil alkyd or modified latex grey pigmented surface coating applied. We support the inclusion of boron H3.1 treatment, provided the coating requirement is removed. We support provided valid efficacy data is presented in support. b) Do not support This survey is a clear attempt to manufacture support for H3.1 Boron to replace LOSP H3.1. H1.2 treatment can withstand wet humid environment for 2 years (at the current point in trial) without decay onset or strength decline. There are NO equivalent tests on H3.1. There is no practical 13 308870169 difference between H1.2 Boron and H3.1 as both exceed the performance required in decay environments. You get lumpy timber and the size of timber fluctuates with boron treated kiln dried timbers. 5.2.3 Specifiers a) Support We need to go back to boron or similar (it is good that suppliers are getting H3.2 VSG8 in stock for most sizes). Boron treated timber is better to handle and less fire risk. Providing there is scientific assurance that as safe as H1.2 boron. However, I specify the level and leave it to builder to choose treatment. b) Do not support Concerned about the ability to prevent decay/ the depth of penetration of treatment not being pressure treated/ possible toxicity. 5.2.4 Building group a) Support This needs to be available as soon as possible. Providing it can be used clear, without painting or coating. Would use only where necessary, as H1.2 and untreated are OK in most situations. b) Do not support General concerns Adequate testing is needed or builders will be liable if things go wrong, as was the case of untreated timber which was approved by the government. Don't rush Boron in the same way as LOSP – we must complete testing before approving. We don’ know enough about it yet. Concern about safety with long term chemical exposure, implications on joinery profiles, compatibility with manufacturing process, unknown side effects of increased chemicals, risk that treatment is not adequate and that boron will not prevent rot, whether boron will stay fixed in timber or will leach out when exposed Problems with identification. There are “enough bush carpenters out there without you lot confusing them”. LOSP provides better resistance to decay. We require clear-finished timber. I don't think it is safe for skin Relating to simplifying With regard to Boron H1.2 vs. H3.1, is this necessary? I understand that the H1.2 Boron is providing more than sufficient protection to satisfy the need, why add more chemicals than necessary into the building envelope. Possibly the current H1.2 boron loadings could be promoted up to being the new H3.1 boron requirement. H3 level is overkill for wall framing. May get around some handling problems, but why introduce extra chemical when not needed? There is no need for H3.1 – it should be H1.2 for framing and H3.2 for exterior. If retained, it must be properly justified. Why complicate - H3.1 is useless product. Boron washes out or misses some of the timber. Why can't we just get 1 treatment per level i.e. H1.2 & H3.2? Can these not cover the lower numbers per level? There is nothing wrong with H3.2, which is what we mostly use. H3.1 is being used exposed by cowboys and the ignorant – it is only a matter of time before another major problem arises. I prefer to use tanalised everywhere. 5.2.5 BCA’s and assessors a) Support Providing we ensure that there are no health issues. b) Do not support General There is a problem of excessive moisture in winter in cold areas, and it can take too long to reduce to acceptable levels. Premature leaching of water soluble boron could be a problem if the timber is often wet. Concerned about the depth of penetration of treatment. This is unproven and would be yet another thing to check. Safety to users is a concern. H3.1 is questionable, colour distinction is a problem as it is often used in wrong places. Relating to simplifying If H3.2 is used everywhere, this would not be needed. Keep it simple, so fewer errors are made. 14 308870169 6. Using treated timber framing This section considers other aspects involved in using treated timber framing. 6.1 Maximum exposure This aimed to gauge support for the concept of setting maximum exposure limits on treated framing timbers, and the following chart shows responses to: Question 8. Should there be maximum exposure periods for timber framing left open to the weather during off-site fabrication, delivery and the construction period? SUPPLIERS Chart 10 Maximum exposure limits Exposure periods 79% Set maximum 84% 14% No maximum 8% 7% Not answered ALL RESPONSES ASSESSORS BUILDING GROUP SPECIFIERS 8% Set maximum 70% No maximum 23% Not answered 8% 80% Set maximum No maximum 82% 17% Not answered 2% Set maximum 88% No maximum 8% Not answered 5% Set maximum 82% No maximum 14% Not answered 4% 0% 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% % of group As shown, responses from all groups were similar, with most supporting the concept of setting limits on the exposure of treated framing. However, there were concerns expressed on the practicality and monitoring of any system. 6.1.1 Treatment plants a) Support limits Timber must be protected as any other building product. Most timber should be kept dry. Boron leaches out when exposed too long and can be washed off surfaces in rain. Over-exposure lowers the quality, and then the timber company gets blamed. b) Do not support limits Builders will limit timber exposure anyway, as they don't want to work with old frames. Limits should be part of best practice guidelines and not be made mandatory. 6.1.2 Other suppliers a) Support limits A date stamp is needed for the manufacture /pre-nailing/truss stage, and also a use-by date on invoices (e.g. 1 year from manufacture timber to be used, and say 3 - 6 months maximum from 15 308870169 pre-nail manufacture to closed in). Further specific instructions are needed for the builder if the frame exceeds maximum (to maintain compliance). Users should prevent unnecessary damage to products on site, and cannot expect to claim against suppliers for timber exposed to conditions for which it has not been treated. There should be a stated maximum to add confidence. The period needs to be realistic and allow for weather etc - say 3 months 6.1.3 Specifiers a) Support limits H1.2 is particularly affected if treatment washes out, and other treatment salts can harm the environment if they are washed into soils. Exposure must be limited to avoid deterioration through leaching and warping. LOSP and boron effectiveness reduces with weathering. There needs to be a guideline, but the weather and season would affect and must be allowed for. We need simple test for deterioration. A limit on exposure is critical for interior framing. Sensible exposure should be tolerated but not for weeks on end - maybe use producer statements from timber suppliers. b) Do not support limits Limits are not practical, as delays are unpredictable or uncontrollable (e.g. a BCA can require up to 20 working days to process minor framing amendment before work can proceed.) Limits are not practical to enforce. How do you know the overall exposure? It is very difficult to know the total exposure term through all stages, and also whether the treatment has reduced to below the required level so needing replacement. This depends on the weather, so a definitive test is needed rather than a time limit. A ‘best before’ date would create huge amount of wasted timber. The treatment should be able to handle exposure. 6.1.4 Building group a) Support limits Builders have responsibility to handle/store/use timber to avoid damage as with all building products. It is up to suppliers to specify how long treatment will last before timber needs to be covered. Limits are needed to ensure retention of water soluble agents such as boron as chemicals can leach out. Boron treatment leaches at a faster rate. Prolonged exposure risks integrity, especially on cut/notched surfaces. Weathering also causes stability problems. If timber has low treatment level weathering endangers the structure of timber and causes treatment to wash out. Limits need to be realistic and without extra complications, both from perspective of construction and ability for treatment to resist leaching. Limits must be easy to identify practical and practical for construction time, allowing for weather, project size/difficulty etc. - even if damp when closed in, timber can be left to dry before lining. Limits should be variable according to treatment level. Limits should be realistically long enough under 6 months/ at least 6 months/ something like 12 - 18 months. b) Do not support limits Treatment should withstand a waiting period without more rules. If the treatment does its job and penetrates the timber sufficiently, exposure should not be a big concern (although it can't be left out too long). It is too difficult to protect timber - treatment needs to be robust enough to withstand. If treated properly, exposure should not matter. Timber should be used on delivery. If we sort out the reasons for delays (e.g. over zealous building controls), then framing will go up more quickly. We can't deal with the unknown as far as time goes. Any limits should be best practice guidelines and not mandatory. There is often no choice but to leave exposed. Exposure period needs to be weather-oriented, not time. Limits would be very difficult to control. Policing would be a problem. Would be impractical as some houses take ages to close in. 6.1.5 BCA’s and other consultants a) Support limits We often see timber starting to discolour due to exposure to weather (colours often bleach before BCA inspection) – a finite exposure period could reduce concern (frames have been exposed for 2 yrs and still passed). H3.1 should not stay wet for too long. With horizontal storing, moisture sits between frames and extended storing outside can start decay. Would need use by stamps, and treatment should last for set period exposed with proper branding showing this. 16 308870169 Guidance is needed as it is too difficult to identify early decay without experience or analysis. Must be limits to ensure that durability is not compromised and to prevent colour/treatment washing out. This is not addressed adequately by NZS3602. Limits are needed to prevent warping and treatment damage. Limits should depend on species and treatment level, with warping considered. Limits must be easy to identify and practical for construction time, allowing realistic exposure time – maximum 1 month/ about 1-2 months /180 days/12 months. Limits are needed only for untreated timber/for treatments that can leach. b) Do not support limits 6.2 You can't determine cumulative exposure - can't monitor how long stored at mill, exposed during transport, stored at merchants, stored on site, exposed to weather before closed in. No one is responsible for monitoring overall exposure - multiple stakeholders. There are too many factors to give accurate answer. Limits would be too difficult to monitor - something else to worry about. It would be very hard to police effectively and would be difficult to enforce removal of timber if limits were exceeded. There are sufficient controls available without specifying specific periods. Site-applied treatments This section explores opinion on the current systems of timber markings and identification of both treatment levels and gradings, and the following chart shows responses to: Question 9. How practical is it to require builders to use site-applied treatments to cut or notched timber framing on the job? % of group Chart 11 Site-applied treatments 58% 60% Practicalilty of site-applied treatments to cut timber Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors All responses 50% 40% 35% 28% 30% 20% 21% 20% 20% 18% 15% 12% 11% 10% 8% 9% 10% 10% 6% 10% 6% 6% 4% 0% 6.2.1 Apparent patterns As shown, the pattern for overall responses appears clear; with more than half considering that the application of site-applied treatments is very impractical. However, as suppliers and specifiers (who are not involved in the actual application) appear to differ significantly from those that are more directly involved with the construction process, the results were broken into sub-groups to investigate further. In Chart 12, the original range of answers has been reduced from 6 to 3 so that the pattern of responses can be more easily identified and understood. The results for ‘very inadequate’ and ‘inadequate’ are therefore shown as ‘inadequate’, ‘somewhat inadequate’ and ‘somewhat adequate’ are shown as ‘neutral’ and ‘adequate’ and ‘very adequate’ are shown as ‘adequate’. As can be seen in Chart 12, the sub-group results are similar to those of their group, except that significantly more treaters considered site-applied treatments to be practical than other suppliers. 17 308870169 % of category Chart 12 Site-applied treatments – further breakdown Practicality of site-applied treatments to cut timber 80% 81% Suppliers Treaters Building group Builders Assessors BCA's All responses 70% 67% 60% 50% 50% 40% 36% 30% 24% 20% 20% 13% 10% 17% 14% 13% 10% 9% 0% Impractical Neutral Practical 6.2.2 Related comments a) Treatment plants Practical The requirement is the same as some other materials (e.g. priming steel is you drill it) It is practical, but does compromise quality b) Other suppliers Impractical Builders are unlikely to apply surface treatment, whether meant to or not. This should not be needed with full sapwood penetration of treatment. Practical If required, then competent and diligent tradesmen should be able to do it. c) Specifiers Impractical This is impractical and unreasonable, as dealing with pre-treated timber risky enough without expecting onsite application of further hazardous chemicals. Practical There is a problem when treatment does not penetrate to inner core. Why should treatment be different from priming required in other situations? d) Building group Impractical If treatment levels are adequate - why is treating sawcuts needed? It shows a lack of confidence in processing techniques. This should not be needed for normal conditions, as it passes the buck to the builder. Most site treatments are to cut ends and notches that are covered over or closed up – making it difficult for TA to verify durability This is impractical as you have to leave for several days after applying before priming. This will never happen as it is too expensive - handler safety is also an issue. Every bit of timber is cut, and it is impractical to seal every one of them (but it is OK for exterior uses such as decks). Practical Although a hassle, it is essential to maintain treatment integrity (and is the same as specific use requirements for other products). We need re-education of builders to implement and deal with extra costs involved. e) BCA’s and other consultants Impractical It is an outrage to expect builders to use surface coated treatment to cut ends. They will not do it. Pre-cut merchants are not doing it. This is just another item to check. Builders cannot be relied on to apply surface treatment, whether meant to or not – and the application cannot be checked when the timber is in place. Treatment should be of a level that, if the timber is cut, then no action is required. If the treatment is 100% saturation, there would be no need to applied additional treatment. 18 308870169 7. Quality control branding The following chart shows responses to: Question 11. Are you familiar with the WoodMark or AgriQuality trademark timber brands? Question 12. Do you check for these trademark brands when purchasing, installing or working with treated framing timber? Chart 13 Trademark timber brands WoodMark and AgriQuality trademark timber brands 92% 80% 60% 35% Familiar Not familiar Not answered Familiar and check FAMILIARITY WITH BRANDS 7.1 Familiar but do not check 6% 5% 17% 26% 2% 5% 3% 0% 8% 18% 20% 27% 40% 42% 30% 45% 37% 50% 40% 57% 55% 61% 60% All responses Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors 67% 67% 58% 80% Familiar but not answered USE OF BRANDS Brand familiarity and use As shown, familiarity with trademark timber brands was highest for suppliers at more than 90% and assessors at 80%, although many of these did not actually check for those brands when working with treated timber. Familiarity with brands was lowest for specifiers at 50%, followed by the building group at about 60%. 7.2 Brand use 7.2.1 Comments There very few comments on this, with one builder noting that he only checked “if they are easy to see” and another noting that “you purchase before you see the timber”. One building official noted that he only checked if it was “important structurally”. 7.3 Brand effectiveness The following chart shows responses to: Question 13. If you are familiar with these quality assurance brands, how effective do you believe they are in ensuring the standard of treated framing timber? % of those familiar Chart 14 Quality assurance timber brands 50% Effectiveness of QA timber brands Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors All responses 45% 40% 35% 30% 27% 25% 20% 19%19% 23% 19% 17% 10% 9% 4% 5% 8% 13% 10% 13% 9% 0% 19 22% 18%17% 15% 8% 6% 308870169 7.3.1 Apparent patterns As shown, apart from suppliers, opinions are generally within the neutral range with few considering the brands to be either ‘very effective’ or ‘very ineffective’. In order to separate out the opinions of the sub-groups, the original range of answers has been reduced from 6 to 3 so that the pattern of responses can be more easily identified and understood. The results for ‘very ineffective’ and ‘ineffective’ are therefore shown as ‘ineffective’, ‘somewhat ineffective’ and ‘somewhat effective’ are shown as ‘neutral’ and ‘effective’ and ‘very effective’ are shown as ‘effective’. % of those familiar with brands Chart 15 Effectiveness of timber brands Effectiveness of QA timber brands Suppliers Treaters Building group Builders Assessors BCA's All responses 80% 60% 85% 57% 45% 49% 40% 29% 22% 29% 17% 20% 41% 29% 29% 24% 8% 27% 8% 0% Ineffective Neutral Effective This breakdown shows a clear distinction between suppliers (and treaters in particular) and other groups – with 85% of treaters considering that the timber brands are effective in ensuring the standard of treated framing timber, in contrast to less than 30% of builders and BCA’s who thought the same. 7.3.2 Comments The few comments made on the use of brands are summarised as follows. a) Other suppliers Rigorous internal QA processes should be adopted by all timber treaters to significantly minimise possibility of dispatching non-compliant treated timber. Need standard audit template, specifying minimum audit requirements, adopted by both Agriquality & TPC to ensure uniform quality of audit. b) Builders Woodmark and Agriquality branding is focused on the treatment/mill end of supply chain, and do not care about end user. These quality assurance systems lost credibility by not monitoring Flash off guidelines, which calls into question the whole audit process for other aspects of quality marks. We rely on timber treatment companies to get it right, as it is not appropriate for builders to question the quality of treatment or they would have to pay if wrong. Just because it has a stamp on it, how do we know that somebody has been checking the quality? c) Assessors The brands are OK for codes, but there are too many treatment types and levels – making them too confusing for most. Brands are only as good as the builder - much work is not visible when inspected. 20 308870169 8. Related issues At the end of the questionnaire, people were invited to add further comments on any of the questions. However many had other concerns that were not directly associated with particular topics in the survey, but were obvious areas of concern. These comments have been grouped into categories and ordered according to the number of comments made of the following topics: 8.1 Health Untreated timber Treatment practices and quality issues Information Expense Other issues Health This topic attracted many comments, which have been grouped, amalgamated and summarised in the following. 8.1.1 Health concerns There were many comments that expressed concerns about the safety and health implications of timber treatment, with the largest number coming from those that handle timber products on site. a) Other suppliers LOSP, either TBT or Azole, remains unacceptable for framing while flash-off issues are not remedied. Radiata pine has to be pumped full of deadly poisons, when other species can often be used instead. b) Specifiers When treated and packed plywood is delivered, it still requires 4 days flash off, meaning that you have to deal with a product covered in poison. There should be regulations that require treated products to be flashed off before dispatching. It is really important to be able to consider non-toxic timber for houses. Why have most developed countries banned LOSP and CCA timber? H1.2 Boron treated Douglas fir is the only treatment method that fits the 'Purpose' of Act to ensure the safety and health of building occupants If a product is not safe it should not be on the market until it is made safe. LOSP solvents and chemicals are both toxic, as the preservative chemical is a neuro-toxin. Even if not wet, LOSP can still cause skin irritation and other diseases, especially respiratory-related ones. c) Building group Treatments in general Treatment used in timber is a huge health risk and will become the asbestos of the future. Copper Chrome and Arsenic are all toxic, and in CCA you get all 3 in one hit. Modern saws have more teeth, which produce more deadly dust to inhale. LOSP can also cause severe health problems. Almost every product used deadly and we build houses from them. No manufacturer uses ONLY the chemicals prescribed in NZS 3640. The use and side effects (on durability performance and health and safety) of 'additives' are not assessed and are not currently identifiable when examining timber on site. Treatments will have health effects on installers and occupants. Suppliers specify gloves, eye and mouth/nose protection but will not say that products are safe. What does that tell you? Tin-based treatments are worse than azole-based and there are more health issues with tin (ban TBNT). LOSP treatment in particular If a product found to be defective and causes persons to become unwell, then the product should not be permitted to be sold until it is proven that it is safe to handle. The side effects on health and safety implications of 'additives' are not assessed. Solvents in LOSP are dangerous - should be banned to protect industry health. Low toxicity treatments based on Borates provide a viable option for pine framing that is exposed to moisture, so we don’t need to overkill with the nastier chemicals. The long term effects are going to catch up with us, as it does not look good based on the problems we have heard of - especially in timber yards with protective gloves disintegrating, 21 308870169 inflammation, rashes and burning. LOSP was hailed as organic, but this product will end up being another asbestos and may lead to premature deaths. In 20 years time, builders will be showing effects of using LOSP - criminal. Health issues need to be accepted and LOSP should be banned as it is too hard to handle safely. LOSP is a problem to handle. LOSP should not be allowed, as it is much more hazardous to people using it than previous types of treatments. LOSP is a very dangerous and inadequate form of treatment, whereas boron was used for many years without the same level of problems. I have found LSOP to be extremely toxic for myself and my workers and now refuse to use it. I get a skin irritation from the chemicals used, especially if the timber is not flashed off. I have started to wear mask when cutting because of smell and effect on nasal and throat passages. I have an instant asthmatic reaction to the vapour and dust. LOSP is hard on workers - with sick days taken or leaving the trade. We do not use LOSP any more, as we used it once and we all got headaches. I use CCA and will not allow LOSP into my workshop, as it gives me a rash on my arms when I use it. Minimising chemicals We should minimise chemical use. The more chemical-free timbers the better in a building - I didn't become a builder to choke on toxic chemicals. Treatments also affect our indoor health by putting chemicals inside our houses. I guess treatment is to stop rotting but why is framing getting wet to rot in the first place. Should we be putting all these chemicals into houses we live in? We should move away from using chemicals, although I am unsure whether there is another solution yet. Proper practices and designs are important factors. Chemical companies have a vested interest in selling more chemicals and treated wood waste is an issue. We should not be afraid of accepting that H3.1 was overkill and was in excess of what is required to protect timber from decay. Other concerns The surface friction between lengths of dry framing needs to increase, as stacked timber too slippery and this causes many handling accidents. d) BCA’s and other consultants LOSP causes health problems such as skin conditions and respiratory problems, and needs to be off the market. There is evidence of sickness (seizures, breathing). The toxins are difficult to remove from the body so it will be a big problem longterm. The treatment is a serious health hazard to handlers and occupants. Solvents in LOSP are dangerous - should be banned to protect industry health. I used LOSP once in a joinery factory and had sick staff, so I think that it should be banned. Any treatment requiring special handling and documented as health risk should be removed from market. Any health issues from the handling of treated timbers need more publicity to make us more aware of any dangers. There are few safety precautions and safety equipment used when handling treated timber, and the issue won't be taken seriously until serious medical conditions appear. The current medical system not good at recognising problems. We should limit the use of unnecessary chemicals 8.1.2 Other comments a) Treatment plants There should be a survey to determine the extent of LOSP health problems that are anecdotally referred to - to find out how someone decided that LOSP caused the problem, along with the outcome of the health problem. There should have been a question about personal protective equipment used when dealing with treated and untreated wood. Flash off issues need to be remedied We need to be careful to match product performance with what is really required. Overtreating is a simple solution but inappropriate. (Note – this comment is from a Douglas Fir treater). 8.1.3 Patterns There appears to be a very clear distinction between comments made by treatment plants and those from other groups. 8.2 Untreated timber A number of comments related to the issue of treating timber, and these have been divided into those generally supporting the need for treatment and those advocating alternatives in order to avoid or minimise the requirement for treatments. 22 308870169 8.2.1 Supporting treatment a) Specifiers The health scares about treatment chemicals in the past did not warrant the knee-jerk reaction of changing the original treatment systems and the damage to leaking buildings that resulted. Treated timber is essential for the type of construction used here. b) Building group Untreated timber should not have been used in the first place. Problems with treatments could lead to further decay in some situations (in a similar way to untreated timbers). c) BCA’s and other consultants Untreated timber caused structural failures and financial heartache to owners, so don't go back there Untreated timber should not be used for roof purlins, as I have seen too many rotten purlins during reroofing. 8.2.2 Alternatives to treated timber a) Alternative species producers We should also look at the inherent properties and subsequent differing treatment requirements of Douglas Fir. The option of having untreated Douglas Fir should continue to be looked into. The industry focuses too much on radiata and does not consider the high quality of alternative timbers and where they can be used. Naturally durable timber species can be used instead of treated pine in some cases. Other suppliers There is research available demonstrating the effectiveness of designed moisture management in order to mitigate decay risk. Preservatives may not be required in as many situations as currently required. b) Specifiers Alternative timber species should be easier to use, as may can withstand time and weather. Treatment is important for protection from rodents, bugs and fungi but it should not be relied on to avoid leaking problems. The survey assumes that treated timber is the only solution. However, I specify all untreated timber for timber frame houses by using Approved Alternative Solutions. We need more effort/marketing put into the use of non-toxic timbers such as Douglas Fir, Lawsons Cyprus and macrocarpa. This survey misses important questions – such as what treatments are specified for where. For instance, are designers specifying higher treatment than the minimum required (I am), are they using correct fixings (e.g. particularly when using CCA treated timber), are they using untreated timber for internal walls etc? c) Building group Timber is taking a bad rap for inadequate workmanship and training. The water should not be getting to the timber framing. Treated timber should only be used where necessary - and it should be discouraged as it is not the answer. The attitude to species other than pine is bad - other types should be recognised. Wall framing timber does not need to be treated d) BCA’s and other consultants 8.3 The bigger issue is weathertight design and construction to keep the water out. With a cavity, timber does not need to be treated. Treatment does not stop leaks - 100 yr old houses breathe and were built from untreated native timbers. Treatment practices and quality a) Treatment plants All LOSP treated products should be treated in fully fillets form to allow best possible flash off post treatment. Other suppliers There are different sizes coming from LOSP and boron, which cause flush problems. Also treating KD with boron causes distortion in timber. 23 308870169 b) Specifiers Far too timbers simply state Machine graded and not to what level. There are also large differences in quality of timber and apparent treatment from individual plants, which demonstrate a lack of consistency. H1.1 & H3.1 LOSP should be taken off the market as they present major handling problems. There are also instances of rotting through the untreated middle section, where nails or bolts let water penetrate to inner core and rot the center. Surface-applied treatment should be forbidden - all treatment should be pressurised. c) Building group General Woodmark and Agriquality branding is focused on treatment/mill end of supply chain, and do not care about end user. These quality assurance systems lost credibility by not monitoring Flash off guidelines, which calls into question the whole audit process for other aspects of quality marks. No manufacturer uses ONLY the chemicals prescribed in NZS 3640. The use and side effects (on durability performance and health and safety) of 'additives' not assessed and are not currently identifiable when examining timber on site. Why is it left to processing plants to ratify their own industry? ‘The Timber Treatment Association.’ is a comfortable closed shop that shows disdain for the end users. Suppliers are forcing their preferences on industry in order to increase their profits. What was wrong with old system pre 1988 i.e. Boric treated internal frames, H3 exterior, H4 in ground. H3 & H4 to be tanalised. The quality of timber is not as good as say 20 years ago. LOSP quality LOSP treated timber is difficult to paint properly and should not be machined after treatment - get rid of it. H3.1 framing can be unstable if exposed to hot weather during summer period. H3.1 is not durable enough, with penetration variable and dubious. Some LOSP timber looks very patchy dip treatment may trap air in block pack. d) BCA’s and other consultants 8.4 Treatment errors do happen. As it is very difficult to determine the difference between H3.1 & H3.2, you have to rely on the stamp. If the labels are wrong, it means that H3.1 is used exposed or unprotected and recourse is difficult to determine. I know of cases where timber has been incorrectly branded for monetary gain (a QA brand is only as good as checkers). Any trademark should establish later responsibility, only if the treatment is applied by an unregistered treatment company. Information a) Treatment plants There should be a study to correlate 4 day flash off period from the Best Practice guidelines with the WES in common workplace environments. b) Other suppliers There is research available demonstrating the effectiveness of designed moisture management in order to mitigate decay risk. Preservatives may not be required in as many situations as currently required. All research and test/trial data needs to be expedited. Specifications often ask for timber that is not available e.g. KD H3.2. c) Specifiers We need to make complex processes understandable with improved communication; to help eliminate mistakes and remove problems. Timber codes need to more clearly communicate timber codes, with colour and simplified diagrams (in a similar way to the NZS3604 graphic design facelift). We need better communication in the form of charts and tables for where varying treatments are to be used. We need a site guide to identifying timbers. d) Building group There are too many decisions made with inadequate science backing (e.g. how do we know that 4 days is OK for flashing off LOSP, as the old MSDS sheets say 14 days). There seems to be no science to support the change. The amount of information that builders are expected to know and be up to speed with huge. Time is money and we are in a very competitive environment where complexity adds to the expense. Research into monolithic cladding systems should have been a lot more robust before they were used in designs. If not banned, must be very strict guidelines as to flashing off LOSP, coupled with severe penalties if breached. DBH needs to see the results of scientific testing of treatment types and levels (through a third party to maintain confidentiality). 24 308870169 Legends of previous markings should be readily available (prior to 2003 changes). e) BCA’s and other consultants 8.5 People need to understand the requirements that relate to them, and I would prefer this to happen through education rather than more rules. There is not enough information being supplied or received by the industry. There is a lack of education on safety precautions needed when handling treated timber. 3604 has too much unnecessary information, and should focus just on what builders need to know - including what are the best types of timber to use. Building officials need more information on alternative timbers such as ironbark, cypress etc. Expense a) Building group Requiring framing treatment has added costs to houses. Higher levels of treatment require expensive stainless steel hardware. When H3.1 or higher is needed, there is an impact on house building costs that puts prospective clients off. Having more options has increased costs due to over-stocking, timber cupping/bowing due to poor storage, increased handling/holding costs and more products that are not time proven. The amount of information that builders are expected to know and be up to speed with huge. Time is money and we are in a very competitive environment where complexity adds to the expense. The Department should not justify existence by making more and more costly rules. Some people buy on price rather than grade and quality b) BCA’s and other consultants 8.6 Users do not read the instructions or care about limitations – they only consider cost. Other issues a) Other suppliers The inadequate hazard class framework in NZS3602 and B2/AS1 inappropriately specifies H3.1 preservative without sufficient scientific support to show that it is needed to achieve the performance required. A review of treatments must not be considered in isolation to a review of the framework. We must address what is ‘fit for purpose’. Re-establish 3602 review committee and commence such a review with urgency. Timber users need to be less risk averse and take more responsibility for what they choose to do. b) Specifiers This survey misses important questions – such as what treatments are specified for where. For instance, are designers specifying higher treatment than the minimum required (I am), are they using correct fixings (e.g. particularly when using CCA treated timber), are they using untreated timber for internal walls etc? Builders' comments are the most important as they are the end users of timber and practical issues are prime c) Building group There have been more problems in the last 10 years than in the previous 40 – so stop kidding us about progress and improvements. We are too much driven by manufacturers who are trying to get a piece of the market, but where are they when things go wrong as their businesses have by then changed hands 3 times. The survey is not comprehensive enough to represent wider issues. We are aware of the agendas of chemical companies and are afraid that their undue influence will distort the outcome of any review of current requirements. Chemical companies have interest in selling more chemicals. Pine growers were all given trees free by the Government over 20 years ago. They now want a return for their efforts and appear to be preventing recognition of other types of timber. d) BCA’s and other consultants I doubt whether current treatment levels will prove durable in long term, as inadequate consideration has been given to the fact that the majority of timber is sapwood – and lack any history of meeting durability provisions. There are too many opportunities for error or misconception by builders or suppliers, so requirements must be idiot-proof. Builders and suppliers often do not comply with the treatment and grading specified for a building, which leads to big problems on site for BCAs. 25 308870169 Appendices The survey questionnaire Timber treatment survey The last five years have been a time of rapid change in both timber product development and site practices. Recently the Department met two focus groups from the construction industry to review the supply and use of treated framing timber in New Zealand. The Department now invites feedback from the wider industry on whether treated framing timber in New Zealand: is fit-for-purpose and meets the needs of the building and construction sector has simple and clear selection, identification and handling requirements meets the expectations of designers, builders and consumers. Please complete this survey and submit it in one of the following ways: post or courier to: Timber Treatment survey Department of Building and Housing Level 6, 86 Customhouse Quay PO Box 10-729 Wellington or email to: comments@dbh.govt.nz (please put ‘Timber Treatment survey’ in the subject line) or fax to: (04) 494 0290 (please put ‘Timber Treatment survey’ in the subject line) The closing date to receive your feedback is 14 April 2008. Industry details 1. What best describes your involvement in the construction industry? only) Treatment plant Timber supplier’s yard / Builders merchant Pre-nail plant Designer (architect, designer, draughtsperson, etc) Joinery shop Engineer Construction company Student / apprentice Small builder / carpenter Building official Other [Specify] 26 (Mark one category 308870169 Treatment choices 2. Are the differences between H1.1, H1.2, H3.1 and H3.2 clear to you? Yes No 3. Do you require more or less choice in timber treatments for framing? Less 1 Leave as is 2 More 3 Handling LOSP timber 4. How do you know that the LOSP treatment has flashed off to a safe level? Comments 5. How often do you wait until LOSP treatment has flashed off before you start handling/working with the timber? Rarely 1 2 3 4 5 Always 6 Boron treated timber (pink coloured) 6. If a boron-based treatment was available for the H3.1 treatment class for timber framing, would you use it? Yes No 7. If you replied “no” to the previous question, what concerns would you have about using boron H3.1 framing? Comments 27 308870169 Exposure to weather 8. Should there be maximum exposure periods for timber framing left open to the weather during off-site fabrication, delivery and the construction period? Yes No Comments 9. How practical is it to require builders to use site-applied treatments to cut or notched timber framing on the job? Very impractical 1 2 3 4 5 Very practical 6 Timber identification 10. How would you rate the current systems of framing timber identification? Not adequate 1 2 3 4 5 Very adequate 6 Treatment quality 11. Are you familiar with the WoodMark or AgriQuality trademark timber brands? Yes No 12. Do you check for these trademark brands when purchasing, installing or working with treated framing timber? Yes No 13. If you are familiar with these quality assurance brands, how effective do you believe they are in ensuring the standard of treated framing timber? Not effective 1 2 3 4 5 Very effective 6 28 308870169 Additional comments 14. Please add any further comments to the questions above (clearly identify the question number) and use the back page as required. Comments 29 308870169 Responses to survey questions 2. Are the differences between H1.1, H1.2, H3.1 and H3.2 clear to you? Table 2 Wall framing hazard classes Group Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors TOTAL RESPONSES Differences Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Clear on differences Unclear on differences Not answered Numbers %'s 22 3 0 36 3 1 93 29 4 45 17 3 196 52 8 88% 12% 0% 90% 8% 3% 74% 23% 3% 69% 26% 5% 77% 20% 3% Totals 25 40 126 65 256 3. Do you require more or less choice in timber treatments for framing? Table 3 Wall framing timber treatments Group Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors TOTAL RESPONSES Differences Want less choice Want more choice Want no change Not answered Want less choice Want no change Want more choice Not answered Want less choice Want no change Want more choice Not answered Want less choice Want no change Want more choice Not answered Want less choice Want no change Want more choice Not answered 30 Numbers 15 1 8 1 18 18 4 0 76 47 3 0 48 16 0 1 157 89 8 2 %'s 60% 4% 32% 4% 45% 45% 10% 0% 60% 37% 2% 0% 74% 25% 0% 2% 61% 35% 3% 1% Totals 25 40 126 65 256 308870169 4. How do you know that the LOSP treatment has flashed off to a safe level? Table 4 Indications of LOSP flash off All groups Lack of smell Dry to touch Supplier's responsibility Appearance/colour Length of time drying Do not know Cannot be sure Avoid using LOSP Not applicable to job Not answered Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. group % 67 33 30 23 10 53 30 20 38 23 26% 5 5 5 1 3 1 2 4 3 2 20% 8 4 0 4 2 4 3 5 18 1 20% 35 16 23 11 4 39 16 10 0 14 28% 19 8 2 7 1 9 9 1 17 6 29% 13% 12% 9% 4% 21% 12% 8% 15% 9% 20% 20% 4% 12% 4% 8% 16% 12% 8% 10% 0% 10% 5% 10% 8% 13% 45% 3% 13% 18% 9% 3% 31% 13% 8% 0% 11% 12% 3% 11% 2% 14% 14% 2% 26% 9% Note: more than 1 answer able to be given to this question. 5. How often do you wait until LOSP treatment has flashed off before you start handling/working with the timber? Table 5 Waiting for LOSP flash off All groups Rarely wait Occasionally wait Sometimes wait Sometimes wait Usually wait Always wait Not applicable Not answered TOTALS Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. group % 111 17 18 9 7 26 60 8 256 43% 5 0 1 0 2 5 9 3 25 20% 8 2 2 1 0 4 23 0 40 20% 71 11 12 7 5 12 4 4 126 56% 27 4 3 1 0 5 24 1 65 42% 7% 7% 4% 3% 10% 23% 3% 0% 4% 0% 8% 20% 36% 12% 5% 5% 3% 0% 10% 58% 0% 9% 10% 6% 4% 10% 3% 3% 6% 5% 2% 0% 8% 37% 2% 6. If a boron-based treatment was available for the H3.1 treatment class for timber framing, would you use it? Table 6 H3.1 boric treatment Group Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors ALL GROUPS Differences Numbers Would use Would not use Not answered Would use Would not use Not answered Would use Would not use Not answered Would use Would not use Not answered Not answered Would not use Would use 31 14 7 4 35 2 3 97 25 4 50 8 7 18 42 196 %'s Totals 56% 28% 16% 88% 5% 8% 77% 20% 3% 77% 12% 11% 7% 16% 77% 25 40 126 65 256 308870169 8. Should there be maximum exposure periods for timber framing left open to the weather during off-site fabrication, delivery and the construction period? Table 7 Maximum exposure times Group Suppliers Differences Numbers %'s 21 2 2 28 9 3 103 21 2 57 5 3 209 37 10 84% 8% 8% 70% 23% 8% 82% 17% 2% 88% 8% 5% 82% 14% 4% Set maximum No maximum Not answered Set maximum No maximum Not answered Set maximum No maximum Not answered Set maximum No maximum Not answered Set maximum No maximum Not answered Specifiers Building group Assessors ALL GROUPS Totals 25 40 126 65 256 9. How practical is it to require builders to use site-applied treatments to cut or notched timber framing on the job? Table 8 Site-applied treatments All groups Very impractical Impractical Somewhat impractical Somewhat practical Practical Very practical Not answered TOTALS Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. group % 131 47 25 17 14 17 5 256 51% 5 7 2 3 1 5 2 25 20% 14 7 6 4 4 4 1 40 35% 74 26 11 6 5 4 0 126 59% 38 7 6 4 4 4 2 65 58% 18% 10% 7% 5% 7% 2% 28% 8% 12% 4% 20% 8% 18% 15% 10% 10% 10% 3% 21% 9% 5% 4% 3% 0% 11% 9% 6% 6% 6% 3% 10. How would you rate the current systems of framing timber identification? Table 9 Current systems of identification All groups Very inadequate Inadequate Somewhat inadequate Somewhat adequate Adequate Very adequate Not answered TOTALS Suppliers Number % 65 54 41 46 28 15 7 256 25% 21% 16% 18% 11% 6% 3% No. 1 3 5 3 7 4 2 25 Specifiers group % 4% 12% 20% 12% 28% 16% 8% 32 No. 5 11 10 6 6 2 0 40 Building group Assessors group % No. group % No. group % 13% 35 26 19 26 12 6 2 126 28% 24 14 7 11 3 3 3 65 37% 28% 25% 15% 15% 5% 0% 21% 15% 21% 10% 5% 2% 22% 11% 17% 5% 5% 5% 308870169 11. Are you familiar with the WoodMark or AgriQuality trademark timber brands? Table 10 Familiarity with trademarks All groups Familiar with brands Not familiar with brands Not answered TOTALS Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. group % 172 77 7 256 67% 23 0 2 25 92% 20 18 2 40 50% 77 47 2 126 61% 52 12 1 65 80% 30% 3% 0% 8% 45% 5% 37% 2% 18% 2% 12. Do you check for these trademark brands when purchasing, installing or working with treated framing timber? Table 11 Checking for trademarks All groups Check for brands Don't check for brands Familiar/not answered Not applicable TOTALS Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. group % 104 60 8 84 256 41% 13 6 4 2 25 52% 11 8 1 20 40 28% 45 32 0 49 126 36% 35 14 3 13 65 54% 23% 3% 33% 24% 16% 8% 20% 3% 50% 25% 0% 39% 22% 5% 20% 13. If you are familiar with these quality assurance brands, how effective do you believe they are in ensuring the standard of treated framing timber? Table 12 Effectiveness of trademarks All groups Very ineffective Ineffective Somewhat ineffective Somewhat effective Effective Very effective Familiar/not answered Not applicable TOTALS Suppliers Specifiers Building group Assessors Number % No. group % No. group % No. group % No. 13 30 43 32 31 17 6 84 256 5% 1 3 3 2 8 5 1 2 25 4% 1 2 9 5 0 3 0 20 40 3% 7 15 21 13 14 6 1 49 126 6% 4 10 10 12 9 3 4 13 65 12% 17% 13% 12% 7% 2% 33% 12% 12% 8% 32% 20% 4% 8% 33 5% 23% 13% 0% 8% 0% 50% 12% 17% 10% 11% 5% 1% 39% group % 6% 15% 15% 18% 14% 5% 6% 20%