School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Stats are fun! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Apply to everything School of Veterinary Medicine and Science ODDS RATIOS AND RELATIVE RISK School of Veterinary Medicine and Science F D Roosevelt ‘...the only thing we have to fear is fear itself – nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyses needed efforts to convert retreat into advance’ School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Cause and effect • Relationship between a risk factor and an outcome • Risk Factors –associated/decreased probability that the disease will develop later • Comparison of risk between the animals exposed and not exposed • Causal relationships are complex School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Type of data • Disease or not disease • Binary outcome • Categorical data is coming your way!! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Plan • • • • Definitions Study types that you will see them in How you calculate them? What do they mean? • How are they different? • Look at some papers School of Veterinary Medicine and Science ODDS The chances or likelihood of something happening or being the case. The ratio between the amounts staked by the parties to a bet, based on the expected probability either way: "odds of 8-1". School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Odds ratio • Ratio between the odds of disease in exposed animals and the odds of disease in non-exposed animals School of Veterinary Medicine and Science When do you see them? • Case control studies • Casecontrol study – compare risk factors between animals with disease (cases) to those without (controls) • Its about DISEASE • Animals start with disease • Risk Factors – presence of the factor is associated with a increase/decrease probability that the disease will develop later School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Advantages and disadvantages • Good – – – – Quick, cheap and easy Rare disease Lots of risk factors No loss to follow-up • Bad – Recall bias – Not good when exposures are rare • Can’t directly measure risk because you already know who has disease School of Veterinary Medicine and Science When are they used? • We know the disease state • We look back at exposure • Cancer • Exposure must be fairly common School of Veterinary Medicine and Science How do they work? • Case control studies Population D+ D- exposed Un-exposed exposed cases controls Un-exposed Then Now! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d OR= Ratio between the odds of disease in exposed animals and the odds of disease in non-exposed animals OR= odds of being a case in exposed group odds of being a case in non-exposed groups School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d Odds of disease/case in exposed =a/a+c = a/c c/a+c Odds of disease/case in non-exposed = b/b+d =b/d d/b+d OR = a/c or OR = ad b/d cb School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Values • • • • Values always >0 1 – no difference <1 – exposure is protective >1 – exposure increases odds of disease • Confidence intervals School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Odds ratios • Case-control studies • Not a direct measure of risk, you cant do this • But when a disease is really rare OR = RR School of Veterinary Medicine and Science RISK • Risk is the potential that a chosen action or activity (including the choice of inaction) will lead to a loss (an undesirable outcome). The notion implies that a choice having an influence on the outcome exists (or existed). Potential losses themselves may also be called "risks". Almost any human endeavour carries some risk, but some are much more risky than others. School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Relative risk • Increased or decreased risk of disease in animals with an exposure of interest School of Veterinary Medicine and Science When do you see them? • Cohort studies • Cohort study – compare disease animals with exposed to a risk factor compared to those not exposed to a risk factor • It’s about EXPOSURE • Start disease free • Risk Factors – presence of the factor is associated with a increase/decrease probability that the disease will develop later School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Advantages and disadvantages • Good – – – – Time sequence of events Lots of risk factors and outcomes Can measure incidence Can study rare exposures • Bad – – – – Take a long time Not good when outcomes are rare Lost to follow-up can be a problem Things change over time! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science When are they used? • When there are lots of risk factors of interest • Disease must be fairly common • Cancer School of Veterinary Medicine and Science How do they work? • Cohort studies (Randomised controlled trial) Population D+ Dexposure Diseased No disease Cohort Now! No exposure Diseased No disease Later School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d Overall risk of disease = number of animals with disease, regardless of exposure compared to total number of animals Risk = a+b n School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d Relative risk of disease = number of animals with disease that were exposed compared to total number of animals with disease that weren’t exposed Relative risk = risk of disease in the exposed risk of disease in un-exposed School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d Risk of disease in exposed=a/a+c Risk of disease in non-exposed = b/b+d Relative risk =a/(a+c) b/(b+d) School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Values • • • • Values always >0 1 – risk is the same <1 – decreased risk in exposed animals >1 – Increased risk in exposed animals • ALWAYS remember underlying risk of disease School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Relative risk • Cohort studies • A direct measure of risk, as the animals start off without disease School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So......... Exposed Not-exposed Disease +ve a b Disease -ve c d If a is tiny.... Even if an OR or RR due to a risk factor is big e.g. 10 We still dont need to panic! Remember the biology School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Remember • These are point estimates so…… You need a confidence interval….. School of Veterinary Medicine and Science What is a confidence interval? Confidence interval: Confident that the true population value of whatever we are measuring is within this range of values ……………………………….not entirely true! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science So…… • To see how believable something is – you want a confidence interval • Don’t just believe the point estimate of a sample is the true value in your population School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Look for… • The point estimate, the P value and the confidence interval – you want the actual numbers not ‘95% confidence’ E.g. Cases were 3 times more likely to be over the age of 15 rather than 5-10 years old, when compared to controls (OR = 2.87, 95% CI 1.38 – 5.99, p = 0.005). Cases were significantly more likely to have ever have received a vaccine of any type in their lifetime compared to controls cats (OR = 6.8, 95% CI = 1.9 - 50.4, p = 0.03). School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Now what? 1. How wide is it? 2. What does the interpretation of the CI mean? Clinically? Biologically? 3. Does it include the null value? School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Sooooo….. • Small sample = bigger standard error = bigger CI • More variation in sample bigger CI • Wide CI = imprecise estimate • Narrow CI = more precise estimate School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Examples Cases were 3 times more likely to be over the age of 15 rather than 5-10 years old, when compared to controls (OR = 2.87, 95% CI 1.38 – 5.99, p = 0.005). Cases were significantly more likely to have ever have received a vaccine of any type in their lifetime compared to controls cats (OR = 6.8, 95% CI = 1.9 - 50.4, p = 0.03). School of Veterinary Medicine and Science 2. Interpretation • The upper and lower limits can be used to see whether the results are useful • A value can be significant with a low p value but the CI interval can help tell you whether you should get excited about it or not! School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Examples Cases were 3 times more likely to be over the age of 15 rather than 5-10 years old, when compared to controls (OR = 2.87, 95% CI 1.38 – 5.99, p = 0.005). Cases were significantly more likely to have ever have received a vaccine of any type in their lifetime compared to controls cats (OR = 6.8, 95% CI = 1.9 - 50.4, p = 0.03). School of Veterinary Medicine and Science Now what? 1. How wide is it? 2. What does the interpretation of the CI mean? Clinically? Biologically? 3. Does it include the null value? School of Veterinary Medicine and Science The null value? • In Odds Ratios and Risk Ratios where you compare two groups and a value of 1 means there is no difference then 1 is the null value • If 1 is included in the CI e.g. 0.56-1.2, then there is no statistically significant effect ………………………………..dont worry I will remind of this later in the year School of Veterinary Medicine and Science