Mentoring Information Session-PEO, Sep 21 Presenter

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PEO’s Engineering
Intern Program
Experience Requirements
Manoj Choudhary, M.Eng., P.Eng.
Objectives
• Role of PEO
• Enforcement vs. Discipline
• Licensing Requirements
– CEAB Graduates
– International Engineering Graduates (IEG)
• Engineering Experience
• Benefits of Engineering Intern Program
Practice of Engineering
• Any act of designing, composing, evaluating,
advising, reporting, directing or supervising;
• Wherein the safeguarding of life, health, property or
the public welfare is concerned;
• That requires the application of engineering
principles (does not include practicing as a natural
scientist).
PEO’s Role & Function
• Who - self regulating body for P. Engs.
• What - regulate and set standards
• Where - across the province of Ontario
• When - 1922 right to title; 1932 right to practice
• Why - Public safety and welfare
• How - Admissions, discipline and enforcement
Enforcement Unit
Enforcement v. Discipline
ENFORCEMENT - Concerned with practice of
professional engineering by non-engineers,
improper use of engineering titles by nonengineers, and unauthorized independent practice
by engineers without a C of A.
DISCIPLINE – Handles complaints against licensed
engineers for incompetence, negligence, or
professional misconduct.
Enforcement Unit
Employer relations & use of titles
The purpose of title protection is to make it clear
who is a licensed engineer. Improper use of
“engineer” in job title can be confusing.
Be polite. Explain why you can’t call yourself an
engineer yet.
Get in touch with us. We will happy to explain it
to your employer.
Licensing Requirements
• Acceptable engineering education;
• Professional Practice Examination;
• Good character (i.e. no criminal record);
• References (all supervisors & a minimum of one
P.Eng.);
• 48 months acceptable engineering experience (12
months must be within a Canadian jurisdiction)
PEO Licensure Flow Diagram
Professional Practice Exam
Mandatory for all
Applicants – no exceptions
CEAB Applicant
Academic Assessment
imbedded in the program
Experience Assessment
After completion of a minimum
of 48 months of work experience
2 year
limit to
attempt PPE
Non- CEAB Applicant
Academic Assessment
By PEO required in the ACT
Exempt from
Technical Exams
Exams waived
Optional
ERC Interview
Assigned Technical
Exams
or
Not waived
Pass
Write Technical Exams
Fail
Does not meet Requirements File Closed
Failure
To
attempt
PPE
Within
Time
limit
Or pass
PPE
within 3
attempts
More
Experience
Required
Optional
Staff Referral
Interview
Acceptable
Experience
P.Eng License
conferred
Professional Practice Examination
• 3 hours total - Part A (Ethics), Part B (Law)
• 4 essay-style questions per section, similar structure
each time
• Exam samples available for purchase from PEO
• April, August & December sittings
• Locations throughout Ontario & embassies around
the world
Engineering Experience
5 Required Elements:
• Application of Theory
• Practical Experience
• Management of Engineering
• Communication Skills
• Social Implications of Engineering
Application of Theory
• Refer to specific engineering
principles/theory
• What options are available to you?
• What important parameters did you
consider?
• Why is the selected method appropriate
under the circumstances?
Practical Experience
• What considerations did you have to make due to real
world conditions?
• What codes and standards did you use as part of your
engineering work?
• Why was it necessary to refer to these – what is the
basis for these?
• How did limitations of time, material, personnel, etc.
affect your engineering work?
Management of Engineering
• These are the business aspects of
engineering, such as:
– Planning;
– Scheduling;
– Budgeting
• How do these concepts fit into the engineering
work that you do?
• Are you responsible for controlling any of these
that affect other members of the team?
• Have your responsibilities increased in this
area? How?
Communication Skills
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How do you report your work?
Any written reports? Who receives these?
Opportunities for presentations?
Participation in meetings?
Any examples of having to promote your
engineering ideas through a reporting
mechanism? What was the result?
Social Implications of Engineering
• What are the potential effects, both positive and
negative, of the engineering project?
• How are negative effects mitigated?
• Who are the end users of the engineering work?
Were they consulted on the project? How?
• What involvement have you had in the process?
Pre-Graduation Experience
Reg. 941 33. (1) 3.
Eligible for up to 12 months credit;
 After completing 50 % of course work
 Not eligible for the required 12 months
of Canadian jurisdictional experience
PEO Policy
 Related to course and career;
 Assessed after 12 months postgraduate experience.
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Engineering Master’s or PhD
PEO Policy
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Completed degrees - 12 months experience
Same discipline or closely related to your
bachelor of engineering degree
Only one degree applies
Not eligible for the required 12 months of
Canadian jurisdictional experience
Applied Research
• Industry supported:
– Company requests and sponsors research;
– Company must have immediate practical use for
the research; and
– P. Eng. from company must be a referee;
– Only time worked at company location under
supervision of P.Eng. Referee can be credited.
• Can count for 12 months of Canadian
engineering experience
Experience Assessment Tools
Required:
• Summary of experience provided by the
candidate (may also include earlier EIT reviews/guidance and
subsequent response by candidate)
•
Referees’ evaluations covering all reported time
periods (may also include follow-up discussions with referees)
Optional:
• ERC and/or Staff referral interviews (if items 1 or 2
above are not satisfactory or complete)
Example of Experience Layout
Name & Location
of
Employer
From
To
(MM/YY) (MM/YY)
Number
of
Months
ABC, Toronto , ON, Canada
02-2004
04-2007
39
XYZ, UK, London
08-1995
12-2001
77
Master at MNL, University
01-1994
07-1995
19
(at least
12 required)
(only 36
will be
allowable)
(only 12 will
be
allowable)
Engineering Experience Record
• Not a Resume;
• Include specific engineering work that you performed;
• Explain the nature of problems you solved;
• Identify design/analysis factors you considered;
Referee Requirements
Minimum legal requirement: one P. Eng.
supervisor for one year*
– Ideal goal: one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus
another P. Eng. familiar with your work, per
place of employment, over the entire 48
months.
– Supervisors must be sufficiently familiar with
the details of the candidate’s work
*Note: If this is all that is provided, an experience
interview will be arranged.
Cross-Discipline
PEO’s Concern: Work experience is not in
compliance with educational background
• Must provide us with evidence of
educational courses or training to bridge
the gap between your educational
background and the work undertaken
Sales, Marketing and Patent
Activities
PEO’s Concern: Little or no requirement for
engineering expertise and/or opportunity to practice
engineering training autonomously
• Must provide us with specific examples of hands-on
involvement and contribution to solving the clients
problems
• Describe to us your engineering thought processes,
rather than simply promoting employers’
equipment/products
Project Management and Supervision
• PEO’s Concern: business role not requiring
engineering training
• The Candidate should demonstrate through
specific examples that his/ her role includes
solving engineering technical problems that the
subordinates are not able to, instead of delegating
all technical problems
Quality Engineering Experience
• PEO Concern: Inspections/testing/ for
verification purposes only, is technician level
• Must demonstrate involvement with process
design modifications as a result of findings of
non-conformances, including the application of
engineering analysis or calculations
Licensure Unit
Assessment Tools:
• Summary of experience presented by the
candidate
• Referees’ Evaluations and interaction with
referees
• ERC interviews (ARC and/or Staff referrals)
Licensure Unit
Referee Requirements:
• All direct supervisors
• Minimum legal requirement: one P. Eng. supervisor
for one year*
• Ideal goal: one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus another
P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of
employment, over the entire 48 months.
• *If this is all that is provided, an experience interview will be
arranged.
Licensure Unit
Professional Engineers who serve as
Supervisors or Referees are expected to:
• Provide guidance, encouragement and support
to the candidate
• Be familiar with the candidate’s work through
direct supervision or ongoing contact
• Be able to attest that the work experience
qualifies within the five established criteria
• Confirm that 48 months of experience as well
as other P. Eng. requirements are met
Licensure Unit
Staff Referrals:
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Cross-discipline candidates
Sales Representatives
Supervision and coordination
Project management including Planning,
Scheduling and Cost Estimation
• Technician-level work including inspection and
testing for verification purposes only (QA/QC)
• Teaching/Research without industrial
application
EIT Program
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Use of EIT title (serious about licensing);
Inclusion in PEO members directory;
Met academic qualifications;
Review of work experience;
Individual guidance;
Engineering Dimensions;
Participate in local Chapters;
Eligible to join OSPE and take advantage of
their Career Centre & other member
services (insurance and investment plans)
Financial Credit Program (FCP)
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CEAB Graduate Students
PEO will waive Lic. Application fee
FREE EIT Membership – First Year
Must apply on-line within six months of
Grad.
• www.peo.on.ca/FCP/FCP1.html
EIT Program Information
Manoj Choudhary, P.Eng.
Manager, Pre-Licensing Programs
mchoudhary@peo.on.ca
www.peo.on.ca
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