Manoj Choudhary, M.Eng., P.Eng.
• Role of PEO
• Admissions vs. Pre-licensing Unit
• Enforcement vs. Discipline
• Licensing Requirements
• Engineering Experience
• Benefits of Engineering Intern Program &
Student Membership Program
• Any act of designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising;
• Wherein the safeguarding of life, health, property or the public welfare is concerned;
• That requires the application of engineering principles (does not include practicing as a natural scientist).
• Who - self regulating body for P. Engs.
• What - regulate and set standards
• Where - across the province of Ontario
• When - 1922 right to title; 1932 right to practice
• Why - Public safety and welfare
• How - Admissions, discipline and enforcement
• Keep all relevant information related to your application
• Respond to requests for information
• Refer to your application number in all contact with
PEO
• Ensure that all of your contact information is accurate
Your Admissions Representative is:
• Your primary PEO contact* to answer all licensing process & status of file questions
• Responsible for timely follow up of requests
• Responsible for updating your application file
* Exception: Questions related to the quality of the experience requirements should be directed to the
Pre-licensing Unit
Enforcement v. Discipline
ENFORCEMENT - Concerned with practice of professional engineering by non-engineers, improper use of engineering titles by nonengineers, and unauthorized independent practice by engineers without a C of A.
DISCIPLINE – Handles complaints against licensed engineers for incompetence, negligence, or professional misconduct.
Employer relations & use of titles
The purpose of title protection is to make it clear who is a licensed engineer. Improper use of
“engineer” in job title can be confusing.
Be polite. Explain why you can’t call yourself an engineer yet.
Get in touch with us. We will happy to explain it to your employer.
DO’s
• DO call us (if you hear about a person wrongfully calling themselves an engineer).
• DO practice professional engineering (under the proper supervision).
• DO read the
Professional Engineers
Act.
DON’Ts
• DON’T call yourself an engineer.
• DON’T forget that the engineer you work for is responsible for your actions.
• DON’T rely on other people’s interpretation of the Act.
Enforcement hotline
416-840-1444 or 1-800-339-3716, Ext. 1444
Use of the enforcement hotline
For inquiries or to report instances of unlicensed practice, illegal title use or unauthorized practice.
• Acceptable engineering education;
• Professional Practice Examination;
• Good character (i.e. no criminal record);
• References (all supervisors & a minimum of one
P.Eng.);
• 48 months acceptable engineering experience (12 months must be within a Canadian jurisdiction)
CEAB Applicant
Academic Assessment imbedded in the program
Non- CEAB Applicant
Academic Assessment
By PEO required in the ACT
Assigned Technical
Exams
2 year limit to attempt PPE
Professional Practice Exam
Mandatory for all
Applicants – no exceptions
Exempt from
Technical Exams or
Exams waived
Optional
ERC Interview
Not waived Pass
Write Technical Exams
Failure
To attempt
PPE
Within
Time limit
Or pass
PPE within 3 attempts
Experience Assessment
After completion of a minimum of 48 months of work experience
More
Experience
Required
Optional
Staff Referral
Interview
Fail
Acceptable
Experience
Does not meet Requirements File Closed
P.Eng License conferred
• 3 hours total - Part A (Ethics), Part B (Law)
• 4 essay-style questions per section, similar structure each time
• Exam samples available for purchase from PEO
• April, August & December sittings
• Locations throughout Ontario & embassies around the world
5 Required Elements:
• Refer to specific engineering principles
• What options are available to you?
• What important parameters did you consider?
• Why is the selected method appropriate under the circumstances?
• What considerations did you have to make due to real world conditions?
• What codes and standards did you use as part of your engineering work?
• Why was it necessary to refer to these – what is the basis for these?
• How did limitations of time, material, personnel, etc. affect your engineering work?
• These are the business aspects of engineering, such as:
– Planning;
– Scheduling;
– Budgeting
• How do these concepts fit into the engineering work that you do?
• Are you responsible for controlling any of these that affect other members of the team?
• Have your responsibilities increased in this area? How?
• How do you report your work?
• Any written reports? Who receives these?
• Opportunities for presentations?
• Participation in meetings?
• Any examples of having to promote your engineering ideas through a reporting mechanism? What was the result?
• What are the potential effects, both positive and negative, of the engineering project?
• How are negative effects mitigated?
• Who are the end users of the engineering work?
Were they consulted on the project? How?
• What involvement have you had in the process?
Reg. 941 33. (1) 3.
Eligible for up to 12 months credit;
After completing 50 % of course work
Not eligible for the required 12 months of Canadian jurisdictional experience
PEO Policy
Related to course and career;
Assessed after 12 months postgraduate experience.
PEO Policy
Completed degrees - 12 months experience
Same discipline or closely related to your bachelor of engineering degree
Only one degree applies
Not eligible for the required 12 months of
Canadian jurisdictional experience
• Industry supported:
– Company requests and sponsors research;
– Company must have immediate practical use for the research; and
– P. Eng. from company must be a referee;
– Only time worked at company location under supervision of P.Eng. Referee can be credited.
• Can count for 12 months of Canadian engineering experience
Required:
• Summary of experience provided by the candidate
(may also include earlier EIT reviews/guidance and subsequent response by candidate)
• Referees’ evaluations covering all reported time periods
(may also include follow-up discussions with referees)
Optional:
• ERC and/or Staff referral interviews
(if items 1 or 2 above are not satisfactory or complete)
Name & Location of
Employer
From
(MM/YY)
To
(MM/YY)
Number of
Months
ABC, Toronto , ON, Canada 02-2004 04-2007 39 (at least
12 required)
XYZ, UK, London
Master at MNL, University
08-1995 12-2001 77 (only 36 will be allowable)
01-1994 07-1995 19
(only 12 will be allowable)
• Not a Resume;
• Include specific engineering work that you performed;
• Explain the nature of problems you solved;
• Identify design/analysis factors you considered;
Minimum legal requirement : one P. Eng. supervisor for one year*
– Ideal goal : one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus another P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of employment, over the entire 48 months.
– Supervisors must be sufficiently familiar with the details of the candidate’s work
*Note: If this is all that is provided, an experience interview will be arranged.
PEO’s Concern: Work experience is not in compliance with educational background
• Must provide us with evidence of educational courses or training to bridge the gap between your educational background and the work undertaken
PEO’s Concern: Little or no requirement for engineering expertise and/or opportunity to practice engineering training autonomously
• Must provide us with specific examples of hands-on involvement and contribution to solving the clients problems
• Describe to us your engineering thought processes, rather than simply promoting employers’ equipment/products
• PEO’s Concern: business role not requiring engineering training
• The Candidate should demonstrate through specific examples that his/ her role includes solving engineering technical problems that the subordinates are not able to, instead of delegating all technical problems
• PEO Concern: Inspections/testing/ for verification purposes only, is technician level
• Must demonstrate involvement with process design modifications as a result of findings of non-conformances, including the application of engineering analysis or calculations
Assessment Tools:
• Summary of experience presented by the candidate
• Referees’ Evaluations and interaction with referees
• ERC interviews (ARC and/or Staff referrals)
Referee Requirements:
• All direct supervisors
• Minimum legal requirement : one P. Eng. supervisor for one year*
• Ideal goal : one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus another
P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of employment, over the entire 48 months.
• * If this is all that is provided, an experience interview will be arranged.
Professional Engineers who serve as
Supervisors or Referees are expected to:
• Provide guidance, encouragement and support to the candidate
• Be familiar with the candidate’s work through direct supervision or ongoing contact
• Be able to attest that the work experience qualifies within the five established criteria
• Confirm that 48 months of experience as well as other P. Eng. requirements are met
• Cross-discipline candidates
• Sales Representatives
• Supervision and coordination
• Project management including Planning,
Scheduling and Cost Estimation
• Technician-level work including inspection and testing for verification purposes only (QA/QC)
• Teaching/Research without industrial application
• Use of EIT title (serious about licensing);
• Inclusion in PEO members directory;
• Met academic qualifications;
• Review of work experience;
• Individual guidance;
• Engineering Dimensions;
• Participate in local Chapters;
• Eligible to join OSPE and take advantage of their Career Centre & other member services (insurance and investment plans)
• Increase level of professional awareness & behaviour
• Promote better communication between students and the engineering community
• Standardize the delivery of PEO’s programs and activities to students
• Provide a seamless transition from student through to licensed P.Eng.
• Link to the engineering community through online information, Engineering Dimensions
Magazine (see your EngSoc office on campus),
Chapter involvement & surveys
• Questions about engineering answered through your web connection to PEO
• Participation means that your voice is heard and you & your opinions are counted!
• FREE
• CEAB Graduate Students
• PEO will waive Lic. Application fee
• FREE EIT Membership – First Year
• Must apply on-line within six months of
Grad.
• www.peo.on.ca/FCP/FCP1.html
Manager, Prelicensing Programs
Jeannette Chau, P.Eng.
EIT Officer