9104-003 Report
September 17/18, 2013
Seattle, WA
Team Members
AAQG
Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures
Jeff Wood, SAE Editor
John Horan, Honeywell
Mike Gusha, Lockheed Martin
Lisa Greenleaf, TUV USA
Linda Price, Boeing
Jeffery Long, UTC (Pratt & Whitney)
Alex Chong, Plexus
Reg Blake, IAAR
Tony Marino, Boeing
Kimberly Spurlock, QUAL-TECH INC.
Ron Tarach, QUAL-TECH INC.
Adam Maxwell, RABQSA
APAQG
Shuji Komori, FHI
Norikazu Tsuchiya, KHI
Shuichi Kitaguci, BSK
EAQG
 Ian Folland, EAQG-OPMT
 Ainhoa Remirez, ITP
 Dominique Thiault, Safran
 Giuseppe Leoni, AgustaWestland
 Andre La Croix, Astrium
 Usman Haq, Goodrich
 Chris Hughes, BAe
 Claudia Oliveri, AleniaAermacchi
 Batia Fontain, Elbit Systems
 Francois Dumesnil, BV
Face-to-Face Team Meeting, Minn, MN, July
• Team met to develop solutions to open issues
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Finalize requirements for TPA B, AABs, and TPs
Develop requirements for Training Developers
Develop Competency requirements for AAs and AEAs
Define a workable competency evaluation process
Clarify ambiguous areas, incorporate applicable resolutions
General document clean-up to forward to document editor
• Develop Competency Validation Process (CVP)
• Process required consistent implementation
• Evaluates auditors against auditing (QMS) competency and AS&D
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Technical Competency)
Process developed and Sanctioned under authority of IAQG
Retain prerequisites for Audits (20 audit days, Required Training
- 60 hours for re-authentication, 2/10 yr in manufacturing, QMS lead
auditor certificate)
New Applicant Auditor
AA Authentication
• 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor
days ISO9001-based system audits
• 2/10 yrs Manufacturing industry
• ISO9001 Lead Auditor course
• SMS defined Training/Course(s)
• QMS Auditing competence evaluation
AEA Authentication/Work
Experience based
• 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor
days ISO9001-based audits within 3 yrs
• SMS defined Training/Course(s)
• 2/10 yrs Manufacturing industry
• ISO9001 Lead Auditor course
• QMS auditing competence evaluation
•Technical Competence evaluation
CVP Scoring Criteria
• Cumulative Scoring
• < 80% = RED
• 80 – 89.9% = Yellow
• > 89.9% = GREEN
• If Green is obtained in all QMS and Technical
Competence Areas then:
• 5 yrs authentication is awarded
• AEA only
Advancement: AA to AEA
• Complete all Technical Competence Improv.
Actions
• 20 audit days of AQMS audits in past 3 yrs
• 60 Hrs of development training
• OE of ongoing auditor assessment by CB
• Complete CVP for AEA
• Advancement does not change re-authentication
cycle time/date
Re-authentication
• Every 3 yrs
• Same criteria as initial authentication
• Successful CVP completion
• Attendance at 60 hrs of Development training
• Same criteria as initial authentication
Suspension / Withdrawal
• Not fulfilling 9104-001/003 reqmts
• AQMS authentication contains false info
• Falsified audit findings
• Actions that would bring ICOP into dispute
• Not informing AAB of a previous rejection,
suspension, or withdrawal from another AAB
• Decision for suspension, AAB will determine
conditions of suspension
Initial Authentication
AEA Re-authentication
Additional Items
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AABs continue to review auditor submitted applications and documentation
CVP is maintained and managed by the IAQG
AABs will maintain auditor authentication documentation
AABs will review and validate all required documentatin prior to granting
authentication
Auditors can only hold authentication at a single AAB at a time
Output of CVP includes feedback on auditor’s improvement areas
CVP can only be repeated every 6 months
AEAs scoring RED in Technical competence, will be re-authenticated for 12
mos (1st time only), 2nd RED scoring results in AA grading
Next Steps
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Complete formatting of Aug 2013 Draft by Montreal IAQG Meeting ☺
Develop detail CVP process and implementation Schedule
Communicate details of new 9104-003 draft to stakeholders
Clarify areas of document that feedback dictates
Questions and Thoughts