Success at Sixth Form
So your son/daughter wants
to be a……
Medic/Dentist/Pharmacist/
Optometrist?
Sue Ashwin Vice Principal
Why do we need
this session?
• To clear up misapprehensions
• To support you in supporting
your son/daughter
• To understand the competitive
picture
• To consider alternatives
The Hard Facts
http://www.pcmd.ac.uk/admissions_bmbs.php?tab=
entry_requirements
http://www2.le.ac.uk/study/ugp/medicine
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/students/courses/un
dergraduate/med/dental-surgery.aspx
2013 entry - Medicine
• Successful medical students from QE
had an average of : GCSE - 10.6 A+A*,
AS - 271 UCAS points ( AAAAC is 280),
A2 - 433 points (A*A*A* is 420)
• All achieved an A grade in AS biology and
chemistry
• Successful students achieved in all areas ie
GCSE + AS + A + relevant experience + good
Ukcat/Bmat score
• The minimum entry achieved at A2 was AAA
• Few medical schools accept a grade C in GCSE
English or maths
2013 entry
• Medicine 40 students applied - 12 offers – 13
starters
• Dentistry 20 applied - 7 offers – 9 starters
• Pharmacy 70 applied - 45 offers – 41 starters
• Foundation Medicine at Nottingham received > 40
applications for each place.
• The lowest offer for Medicine and Dentistry is
AAA
• Pharmacy offers mainly AAB with some ABB and
a couple BBB
2013 entry
Other related
courses
• Midwifery 7 students applied - 0 offers – 0
starters
• Nursing 15 applied - 5 offers – 4 starters
• Optometry 15 applied - 14 offers – 12 starters
2012 entry
• The unusual situation of more starting medicine and
dentisty than offers is because the students were
originally rejected by the university but then offered a
place post results.
• No student received an offer/place for children’s
nursing or midwifery.
• The number starting optometry includes 2 students
rejected for dentistry and 1 for medicine.
• The number starting pharmacy includes 2 students
rejected for dentistry and 3 for medicine.
• The rejected dentist and medicine students obtained
their places via Extra/clearing as those who put
optometry or pharmacy as 5th choice on UCAS application
received rejections ( except one)
National Picture
• UCAS report in 2012 the ratio of
applications to each acceptance was
11 to 1. The number applying
for medicine for 2013 was at a similar
level to 2012 .
• In their 2014 prospectus, Leicester
quote 2463 applications for 162
places - higher than the average.
Still think they can
do it?
Helping
themselves
• Evidence of experience AND
impact
• The BEST results- EVERY
module in ALL subjects
• Adopting advice re
applications
Issues to
consider
• Parental pressure/expectation
• Mismatch - aspiration v
performance
• External drivers – HE Funding
and admissions policies
Some options
• Another health related
career
• A similar but less competitive
HE course eg Pharmaceutical
Science/Biomed
Science/Dental hygiene
The way forward
• Careful research
• Careful discussion
• Careful planning
• Open mind to alternatives
• A realistic application
………….Offers!
Finding out more
• UCAS.com
• Careers advice
• Uni websites/prospectuses
• Open Days
• Specialist support
Opportunity
• Students need to check
emails and Student Bulletin
over the next couple of
weeks about UoL Medicine
Mentors!
Success at Sixth Form
So your son/daughter wants
to be a……
Medic/Dentist/Pharmacist/
Optometrist?
Sue Ashwin Vice Principal