Dinosaurs!
The majority of this presentation comes from
Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis.
www.answersingenesis.org
PreHistory
• What are some prehistoric animals?
– Tyrannosaurus Rex
– Triceratops
– Apatosaurus (formerly Brontosaurus)
– Diplodocus
– Velociraptor
– Pterodactyl
PreHistory
Wrong!
PreHistory
• There’s no such thing as a prehistoric
animal!
• There is no such thing as prehistory!
– History began when it started being recorded,
and as Christians, we believe it was recorded
from the beginning. How can there be
anything before the beginning?
What does the World say
• Big Bang, Sun, hot molten blob, earth
condenses out, cools down, water
appears, millions of years, chemicals turn
into living systems, then through a long
progression, one kind of animal changes
into another, apes form into people, and
over millions of years, the history of life
gets recorded in the fossil record.
Millions of Years
BUT…
There is no such thing as millions of years!
Review
• From the “Facts and Fossils” lesson
– We all have the same facts and the same
science.
– All facts must be interpreted.
– Fossils don’t come with date tags.
– Creationists differ from Evolutionists in their
view of History; how we tie the facts together
into an overall big picture.
What does the Bible say?
• It is the Word of God, who knows
everything about everything.
• If it really is the Word of God, we’ll be able
to build our thinking on it and make sense
of the world.
• You’re going to see that it does make
sense, and that it fits with REAL science.
• It’s the Bible you can trust.
What does the Bible say?
• We shouldn’t use evidence to try to prove
the Bible is true, instead…
• We should use the Bible as a History book
to build our thinking to understand the
evidence.
What does the Bible say?
• Sometimes people will say, “Don’t tell me
what the Bible says. Give me some
evidence of your beliefs.”
• The problem with such a challenge is that
they’re asking you to drop your
presuppositions.
What does the Bible say?
• If you remove the Bible from the
discussion, you no longer have a basis for
your history!
• Remember, our beliefs only differ from
evolutionists in our history.
What does the Bible say?
• Asking you to remove the Bible from the
discussion would be like us asking them to
remove millions of years from the
discussion.
• If you remove the Bible, you’re removing
your presuppositions, your history
— but you’re letting them keep theirs.
• Your goal is to get them to look at the facts
through Biblical glasses.
What does the Bible say?
Let’s use the Bible as our basis to look
at the facts.
Where do Dinosaurs Fit?
“How do you fit dinosaurs into the Bible?”
Wrong question.
• You don’t take things and “fit” them into the
Bible, you use the Bible as history, it will
make sense, and the facts will fit.
• Since the Bible is real history it will make
sense of the real world.
Where do Dinosaurs Fit?
Let’s put on Biblical glasses and look at
dinosaurs:
• When did God create dinosaurs?
– God made everything in six days
– He made land animals on day six
– Therefore, dinosaurs were made on day six
Where do Dinosaurs Fit?
“But that means dinosaurs lived with
people!”
Yes, dinosaurs lived with people.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
“But the word Dinosaur is not in the Bible!”
Neither is the word e-mail.
E-mail is a modern word.
Dinosaur is a relatively modern word.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
The word dinosaur was invented in 1841 by
Sir Richard Owen, founder of the British
Museum.
The King James Bible was first translated in
1611. The version we see today is the
1789 edition.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
What did people call dinosaurs before 1841?
Dragons!
You’ve heard of dragon legends. There are
dragon legends from cultures all over the
Earth.
Ancient history books describe dragons in
detail.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
The Anglo Saxon Chronicles describe
people living with dragons. These
descriptions fit closely with dinosaurs.
The Bible (King James Version) refers to
Dragons. When you replace the word
dragon with dinosaur, it fits nicely.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
The phrase “great whales,” often seen in
scripture, should really be translated
“dragon” or “sea monster”
(Genesis 1:21 and others)
God created the dragons on the land and in
the sea.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
 Psalm 44:19 Thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons.
 Psalm 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young
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lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet
Psalm 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons…
Isaiah 13:22 …and dragons in their pleasant places…
Isaiah 27:1 …and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Isaiah 34:13 …and it shall be an habitation of dragons…
Jeremiah 9:11 …And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of
dragons…
Jeremiah 14:6 …he hath swallowed me up like a dragon
Ezekiel 29:3 …the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his
rivers
Micah 1:8 …I will make a wailing like the dragons…
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
“But those are all from the King James
translation.”
Two things to consider:
1. The Hebrew word [taninim] that the KJ
translators translated as “dragon” means great
monster. To them, a dragon was a great
monster.
2. The KJ translators viewed the idea of a
dragon as a non-mythical beast — only 400
years ago.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
It’s sad that today’s modern translators have
been too timid to use dinosaur in the place
of dragon where “great monster” is
appropriate. [Hebrew: taninim]
Instead, modern translators limit their choice
of words to creatures living today, even
though the Bible is clear, many of these
creatures are different from ones living
today.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
“But we didn’t discover dinosaurs until the
1800’s!”
No, we didn’t re-discover dinosaurs until the
1800’s.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
Leviathan
… the dragon that is in the sea,
Job 3:8; 41:1 and Psalms 74:14; 104:2
possibly a Mosasaur
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
Leviathan?
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
Flying Serpent
Isaiah 30:6 Refers to “the fiery flying serpent”
possibly a Pterosaur like the
Ramphorynchus?
Perhaps not, but the prophet certainly was not
referring to a creature alive today.
Nevertheless, it was a living creature when
Isaiah referred to it.
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
Behemoth
The word Behemoth in Job 40:15-19 means
beast, but the form of the word used is a
majestic plural, and means something more
like “colossal beast.”
Dinosaurs in the Bible?
The description of Behemoth in Job 40:1519 is likely some type of huge Sauropod.
Dinosaurs
Most people think all dinosaurs were BIG!
Some were big, but the average size of
dinosaur skeletons found across the Earth
is the size of a sheep. Many were as small
as chickens.
We suspect some of them were big because
they were old. Many reptiles keep growing
after reaching the age of maturity.
Dinosaurs
“Wouldn’t it have been terrifying for Adam
and his descendants to live with
dinosaurs?”
All animals were vegetarian in the Garden.
We don’t know at what point some became
carnivorous, but we know it was after sin.
Dinosaurs
“What about dinosaurs with sharp teeth?
They are obviously meat eaters!”
No, they obviously have sharp teeth.
Many vegetarian animals have sharp teeth.
Many animals that eat meat have not-sosharp teeth.
Dinosaurs
Bears have sharp teeth, but they are mainly
vegetarian.
Several types of monkeys have very sharp
teeth, but are vegetarians.
Marine Iguanas of the Galapagos are
ferocious looking, with razor sharp teeth,
but do not attack other animals and are
vegetarian.
Dinosaurs
So what happened?
SIN
Before sin, everything was very good. Yet
there is evidence of cancer in dinosaur
bones in the fossil record.
Dinosaurs
None of the fossil record could have existed
before sin.
The world degenerated. People were
wicked. God judged sin and sent the
flood.
Noah’s Ark
What was Noah’s Ark?
A boat?
NO!
An Ark!
A watertight box of safe-keeping. It was
never intended to “sail” anyplace; only to
keep its occupants safe.
Noah’s Ark
How big was it?
It was
450 feet long (300 cubits)
75 feet wide (50 cubits)
45 feet high (30 cubits)
Noah’s Ark
How big was it?
Noah’s Ark
How big was it?
Dinosaurs
“How could Noah have gone out and found
two of each animal?…”
Noah didn’t have to go out and gather
animals, God brought them to him.
Only the air-breathing “nephesh” were on
the ark.
Dinosaurs
“Weren’t the dinosaurs too big to fit on the
ark?”
What did we say the average size of a
dinosaur was?
Sheep
Even the largest dinosaur was once hatched
out of an egg no larger than a football.
Noah’s Ark
How big was the Ark, again?
Noah’s Ark
How big was it, again?
Dinosaurs
“But there are over six-hundred names of
dinosaurs alone, times two…!”
No, no, no, no.
From two dogs, we get all varieties of dogs.
Many dinosaur groups were really the same
“kind” of animal.
When you work it through there were
probably fewer than 50 types of dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs
In all, there were probably around 16,000
individual animals on the ark.
See “Noah’s Ark: A Feasibility Study:
http://www.rae.org/noah.html
Bathtub Arks
When we represent Noah’s Ark like this…
We join the world in mocking God’s Word.
Bathtub Arks
We’re teaching children that Noah’s Ark was
a fairy tale.
The world scoffs at those who believe in
Noah’s Ark.
Why?
Noah’s Flood
Noah’s flood was a Judgment of man’s
wickedness.
Man hates Noah’s flood.
Noah’s Flood
Man was told he had to go through a
doorway to be saved.
Man doesn’t want to have to go through a
doorway to be saved.
Noah’s Flood
Noah’s flood explains the fossil record.
The world doesn’t want a global flood to
explain the fossil record; they want to cling
to their millions of years.
—An explanation without God—
Bathtub Arks
Why help the world mock this major event in
history?
Bathtub Arks
When you make an Ark look like an
overloaded bathtub, kids look it and think,
“The animals couldn’t fit on that!”
Bathtub Arks
But they could fit on this!
Bathtub Arks
“That overloaded bathtub wouldn’t have
survived the flood!”
Bathtub Arks
But this one would survive a global flood.
A picture of Jesus Christ
The Ark is a picture of Jesus Christ!
In Noah’s day… “Come through the doorway
to be saved! There’s a flood coming!”
Then, BANG! The door went shut and it was too late.
A picture of Jesus Christ
Just as there’s been a flood,
another judgment is coming.
This one by fire. How are we to be saved?
Jesus said, “I am the door. By me, if any
man enter in, he will be saved.”
A picture of Jesus Christ
As Christians, we’re telling the world, “Come
through the doorway to be saved!”
"There’s a judgment coming!”
The world says, “Ha! That’s not going to
happen!”
Then one day, “BANG!” The door is going to shut.
A picture of Jesus Christ
Let’s not mock that event in history with cute
little Arks.
The Flood
Then the fountains of the deep broke open.
All the air-breathing animals (nephesh), and
all mankind who were not on the ark
perished.
The Flood
What happened to the animals and humans
who weren’t on the ark?
They drowned, many were eaten by sea
creatures; most floated to the top and
decayed, but some got covered in mud
and rock and turned into fossils.
The Flood
If there really were a global flood, you’d
expect to find billions of dead things buried
in rock layers laid down by water all over
the earth.
Do you know what we find?
Billions of dead things buried in rock layers
laid down by water all over the earth.
The Flood
Some evolutionists ask, “Where’s your
evidence for a global flood? There’s no
evidence for a global flood! All you find
are ‘billions of dead things buried in rock
layers laid down by water all over the
earth.’ I don’t see any evidence for a
global flood!”
It’s everywhere!
The Flood
Why don’t they see it?
They’re wearing the wrong glasses.
When you put on the right glasses, the
Biblical glasses,
It’s everywhere!
The world is one big graveyard! The
greatest memorial ever that God has
judged the wickedness of man.
The Flood
Here’s a quote from a Web site with an
evolutionary perspective:
“…[S]edimentary rocks are born cool at the
Earth's surface, mostly under water.”
http://geology.about.com/cs/basics_roxmin/a/aa011804b.htm
There are sedimentary rocks virtually
covering the earth. Sedimentary rocks are
born under water, and that’s not evidence
of a global flood?
Fossils
If there was no bloodshed, disease,
suffering, and death before sin, you can’t
have fossils of animals or man before sin.
Fossilization is a process that can take
anything from a few hours to many years.
It depends on the conditions of mineral
content and ground water.
There was a LOT of ground water in Noah’s
flood.
Fossils
On the north slope of Alaska there are many
thousands of mammoth bones. They are
NOT fossilized. 65 million years old, and
they didn’t rot?
Which time frame fits with that? The Biblical
time frame or millions of years?
Fossils
They have found unfossilized T-Rex bones
with red blood cells in Montana!
There’s no way red blood cells would have
lasted 65 million years.
Which time frame fits with that? The Biblical
time frame or millions of years?
Fossils
Evolutionists will take evidence, apply their bias,
and miss the obvious!
They may say something like:
“Here are the bones of an extinct lizard.
See how it looks like it came from an animal that
died only two or three hundred years ago? The
bones are all dried and chalky?
I’ve seen dinosaur bones that look like they died 2
or 3 hundred years ago, and I know very well the
animal died much longer ago than that!”
Fossils
Instead of seeing the possibility that the
dinosaur bones weren’t millions of years
old, but even possibly only hundreds of
years old, the evolutionist uses the
conviction that all dinosaurs are millions of
years old to conclude that these bones are
also millions of years old.
It’s most likely, both specimens are only
hundreds of years old.
Fossils
If you can’t get someone to take off their
glasses, they will reinterpret the evidence
according to what they already believe.
Remember the “What’s missing” test? They
fill in what is missing with what they
believe should be there.
Fossils
Here is a picture of
driftwood on the north
shore of Siberia, where
trees of this size do not grow.
Where do they come from?
As frozen muck continues to
thaw, the waters wash
more and more
of what was
buried there by the
flood waters and
mud to the shore.
Petroglyphs
There may be multiple carvings of
recognizable creatures on a wall
or rock. And yet, if you ask the
park ranger,
Petroglyphs
“What’s this?”
“Deer.”
Petroglyphs
“This?”
“Man.”
Petroglyphs
“This?”
“Sheep.”
Petroglyphs
“This?”
“We don’t know.”
Petroglyphs
Let me ask you,
What’s this?
Mammoth/Mastodon?
Petroglyphs
Here’s a sauropod petroglyph in Natural
Bridges National Monument…
What happened to the Dinosaurs?
“Well, what happened to the dinosaurs?”
They went extinct!
Naturalists tell us that animals go extinct
every day!
Why should it surprise is that dinosaurs went
extinct?
What happened to the Dinosaurs?
They have also found hundreds of living
things they thought were extinct.
However, before the discovery, if you had
said you believed any of these entities still
lived, you would have been mocked.
Dinosaurs Today?
Some prominent evolutionists have said if it
can be proven man and dinosaur were
contemporary, the theory of evolution will be
falsified.
Richard Dawkins, Oxford
Steven Stanley, Johns Hopkins
Earnst Mayer, Harvard
Niles Eldridge, American Museum of Natural History
Guess what…
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/dino-human-coexistence-implications.htm
Dinosaurs Today?
On a recent expedition into Cameroon*
(Africa), researchers made some surprising
discoveries about the people’s familiarity
with particular animals.
They described…
http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/behemoth/behemoth.htm
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
Embulu-em’bembe
or Mokele-mbembe and
Li’kela-bembe
Neck like a giraffe, legs
like an elephant, small
snake-like head, 30 foot
tail
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
Emela-Entouka
or Elephant Killer,
also called Ngoubou
A dangerous brutish beast
with one to four horns on
its nose and forehead.
The people identified a
triceratops image as being
this animal.
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
The Baka people of Cameroon,
when presented with black and white pictures of
animals they would know, and moving into pictures
of animals they were not expected to know
[creatures from different parts of the world as well as extinct
creatures, such as dinosaurs],
identified sauropod creatures
and the Triceratops
as creatures with which they were
familiar.
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
Other peoples in equatorial Africa also
identified the Pterodactyl [Kongomato] as
familiar.
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
How would they know these creatures in
their culture if they had not existed with them
at least in the past if not in the present?
They have no access to dinosaur digs or
scientific journals. They have no television
or even encyclopedias.
*Behemoth or Bust: an expedition into Cameroon investigating reports of a Sauropod dinosaur.
Dave Wortzel, TJ (Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal), ISSN 1036-2916, Vol.15(2), 2001, p.62-68
Dinosaurs Today?
There is reason to believe that grendel in the
Scandinavian Epic tale
Beowulf was T-Rex.*
*After the Flood, Bill Cooper, 1995, New Wine Press, online at
http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/
Available in book form from www.answersInGenesis.org and www.icr.org
Dinosaurs Today?
Its skin was impenetrable to spears and
arrows. It could eat a warrior in one
mouthful.
*After the Flood, Bill Cooper, 1995, New Wine Press, online at
http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/
Available in book form from www.answersInGenesis.org and www.icr.org
Dinosaurs Today?
The hero was able to kill the grendel beasts by
climbing on their backs and tearing off an arm,
after which the creature would go back to its lair
and bleed to death.
He did this to more than one grendel.
*After the Flood, Bill Cooper, 1995, New Wine Press, online at
http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/
Available in book form from www.answersInGenesis.org and www.icr.org
Dinosaurs Today?
There is also strong reason to believe Beowulf is a
historical account, not a fictional tale.
*After the Flood, Bill Cooper, 1995, New Wine Press, online at
http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/
Available in book form from www.answersInGenesis.org and www.icr.org
The Bible = the Truth
You see, it’s the Bible that makes sense of
the world.
We need to preach the science in our
churches as well as the theology.
We need to answer the questions of this age
and connect the Bible to the real world.