Welcome!
What Do Counselors Need To
Know?
November 27, 2012
A webinar for CCC Counselors
Presented by the CCC Chancellor’s Office, C-ID, and
the ASCCC, working with Counselors
This webinar will be archived
www.cccconfer.org
www.sb1440.org
(Go to: Counseling)
Our presenters today
Bernie Day, Articulation Officer/Counselor
Naomi Grisham, Transfer Center Director
Jane Patton, C-ID
Bob Quinn, CCC Chancellor’s Office
Karen Simpson-Alisca, CSU Chancellor’s Office
Welcome!
 Your role in informing students is vital!
 Agenda:
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Requirements of AA-T/AS-T
How to work with students
Walk through “tool box”
Q&A
Expected Outcomes
 At the end of workshop, you will be
able to:
 Describe the basic tenets of SB
1440
 Explain what C-ID is and how it
relates to associate degrees for
transfer
 Compare and contrast the
differences between completing an
associate degree for transfer
pathway and a traditional articulated
transfer pathway.
More Outcomes
 Identify and successfully
utilize related resources
 Serve as a resource for
students
 Students with this degree are guaranteed admission to CSU system as a
junior in a “similar” major
 All CCCs offer the Associate Degree for Transfer
 “The California State University shall grant a student priority
admission to his or her local California State University campus and to
a program or major that is similar to his or her community college
major or area of emphasis“
o “similar” major determined by CSU faculty- www.sb1440.org
o CSU cannot require students to repeat courses similar to those
completed at CCC
 AA-T and AS-T students admitted to CSU in a “similar” 120-unit BA/BS
program are guaranteed to complete BA/BS in 60 semester units
 New degrees are called Associate in Arts or Science in <major> for Transfer:
AA-T or AS-T
 According to Ed Code §66745-49 degrees must include:
o 60 sem./90 qtr. CSU-transferable units
o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadth
o Minimum 18 sem./27 qtr. units in major
o No additional local requirements allowed
Memo outlining California College Board of Governors goal:
http://www.c-id.net/docs/2012_5-22_SB1440_Memo_js.pdf
1. Faculty discipline groups identify common lower division major
preparation (TMC)
2. Discipline groups are intersegmental (CSU and CCC)
• some UC involvement, too
3. Draft TMCs are vetted statewide (www.c-id.net) & faculty determined.
4. CCCs develop TMC- aligned degrees known as AA-T/AS-Ts and submit
them to the CCCCO for approval.
Course Identification Numbering
System
 Administered by the Academic Senate for CCC
 Similar to CAN but with more detailed descriptors
 Provides the infrastructure for TMCs & course substitution
 Faculty discipline groups define content for courses (C-ID course descriptors)
 Drafts of Course descriptors (C-ID) vetted statewide
 When a college has a C-ID approved course, then they have
agreed to accept all others with the same C-ID number.
www.c-id.net
Administration of Justice
Kinesiology
Art History
Mathematics
Business Administration
Music
Communication Studies
Psychology
Early Childhood Education
Physics
Elementary Education
Political Science
English
Sociology
Geology
Studio Arts
Geography
Theater Arts
History
Computer Science
Journalism
Anthropology
And MORE Coming Soon!
 Communication Studies AA-T
 Early Childhood Education AS-T
 English AA-T
 History AA-T
 Kinesiology
 Mathematics AS-T
 Political Science AA-T
 Psychology AA-T
 Sociology AA-T
 Studio Arts AA-T
 Business AS-T
 Music AA-T
 Physics AS-T
 New ASCCC statement on Reciprocity, Course
Substitution and Credit by Exam—in light of AA-T and
AS-T degrees (doc available at sb1440.org)
 Counselors can use C-ID for comparability.
 External Sources of Credit (AP, CLEP, IB)
 Anyone applying to a CSU in identified similar majors
o Provides priority admission consideration
 Want to earn associates degree and prepare to transfer
 Applying to a CSU which has no articulation with your CCC
 Applying to impacted CSU (campus or major)
 UC applicants have guaranteed comprehensive review
 May also be strong preparation for independent colleges
ASSIST
 Helps you find community college courses that are
transferable to a UC or CSU
 Lists all transfer majors offered at UC and CSU
 Lists courses that are articulated to specific majors
 Lists courses that satisfy GE requirements
ASSIST.ORG
CSU Major Preparation
options
Pathway 2 - Associate Degrees for Transfer
 A transfer pathway used for admission to one of the 23
California State Universities
 An option that allows students to complete an
Associate’s degree while satisfying lower division general
education and major requirements for
transfer at the same time.
 Prescribed pattern of courses for specific
majors (AA-T and AS-T)
AA-T/AS-T
Major
Preparation
CSUGE or
IGETC
AI,
Golden
4,
Electives
*
60 units
=
CSU Major
coursework
(similar)
60 units
YOUR BACHELOR’S DEGREE
CSU
General
Education
(upper
division)
The CSU Admission
Process
California State University
Office of the Chancellor
CSU Minimum Admission Requirements
 Obtainment of a minimum grade point average of 2.0
 60 semester units or 90 quarter units that are eligible for transfer to the
California State University.
 General Education requirements are met by either the Intersegmental
General Education Transfer Curriculum (IGETC-CSU) or the CSU GEBreadth Requirements and includes:
 30 units of General Education completed with a grade of “C” or better
 Golden Four (A3‐‐critical thinking, A1‐‐communication, A2‐‐English
composition, and B4‐‐quantitative reasoning w/a minimum grade of “C”)
 18 semester units or 27 quarter units in a major or area of emphasis
No need for GE certification when the degree conferral is posted on
the “official” transcript.
What’s the Guarantee?
Part 1:
 A student who completes an AA-T or AS-T at a California Community
College is guaranteed admission to the California State University
NOTE: Students are not guaranteed admission to a particular campus or program
Part 2:
 AA-T/AS-T graduates admitted to a CSU program that has been deemed
similar to the Associate’s Degree for Transfer will be able to complete the
Baccalaureate Degree in that similar option in the discipline within 60
semester or 90 quarter units
What’s the Guarantee – Part 1?
To qualify for Part 1 of the guarantee students must:
 Be conferred an AA-T or AS-T degree
 Apply for admission to California State University campuses for an
open term by the published deadline
 Submit all requested transcripts and documents by published deadlines,
 Meet CSU admission eligibility requirements for the program to which
they have applied,
 And comply with any other prescribed admission requirements.
What’s the Guarantee – Part 2?
To qualify for Part 2 of the guarantee students must:
 successfully complete each required course without
repeating them.
 Maintains continuous enrollment in the same academic
major (approved leave of absence OK)
Additional notes:
1. Students who chose change their major or complete a minor are not
guaranteed completion within 60 units.
2. After enrollment at a CSU campus begins, the guarantee is not transferable to
another CSU campus.
 Each CSU determines if the TMC is similar
 “Similar” means a that if a transfer student arrives with the
TMC coursework and lower-division GE, the CSU campus is
able to deliver the baccalaureate degree in 60 units. (60 + 60)
 Some options/ concentrations within majors may not be
considered similar.
 Upper-division GE must be part of the 60 units. Any missing
lower-division major preparation or American Institutions
requirements may be included in the CSU 60 units
How are AA-T/AS-T degrees considered
in admission?
CSU Campus Admissions
Impaction Status
No Impaction
(CSUDH, CSUH, CSUMB)
Similar Degree
Local Applicant
Campus Impacted
Priority Admission
Min. 2.0 GPA
(Ed. Code 66745)
Program Impacted
(Any CA Student)
Similar Degree
Non-Local Applicant
Priority Admission
Min. 2.0 GPA
(Ed. Code 66745)
Supplementary GPA
Requirement
Additional .20
GPA Point
Supplementary GPA Requirement
Additional .10 GPA Point
(20 seats or more)
Campus & Program Impacted
(SJSU, SDSU, CSUF, CSULB, SLO)
(Any CA Student)
Supplementary GPA Requirement
Additional .10 GPA Point
(20 seats or more)
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
CSU Mentor: SB1440 Section on 2013-14 Application
Application Verification Process
 Student self-reports intent on CSU Mentor
 CSUCO filters the applicant list on Mentor & Applicant data
disaggregated by CCC and CSU
 Email is sent to student with instructions on the verification
process
 A list of the students sent to CCCCO & CCC CSSO’s
 Students are responsible to obtain the degree verification form
and petition for graduation evaluation
 Provide a copy of their evaluation/report to each CSU campus to
which they had applied
 Students are responsible to provide final official transcript with
AA-T/AS-T degree conferral to CSU by date specified by CSU
campus.
Application Verification Process
Admissions Evaluation
 All applicants still must follow campus instructions
regarding documents and other requirements
 Admissions may be rescinded AAT/AST not earned or if
student has not met the CSU minimum admission
requirements
 Campus admission process varies by impaction or non-
impaction status
 Redirection of application
 Conditional admit pending impaction criteria
 http://www.sb1440.org
 http://ccctransfer.org/
 http://www.calstate.edu/transfer/degrees/
 www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com
 http://www.c-id.net
 http://www.Asccc.org discussion board
 This webinar will be archived on sb1440.org
Toolbox: information
Go to: www.SB1440.org
 What Counselors need to know PPT (for you to show
at department meeting, etc. )
 Info for Orientation PPT (for Orientations)
 Transfer PPT (for student workshops)
 Glossary of terms---C-ID & 1440
 ASCCC Statement: Reciprocity, Substitution, Credit by
exam
 Bookmark to duplicate
 Questions (from counselors) & answers
Toolbox: Marketing Materials
 Posters, Tabletops, Bookmarks Sent To:
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Transfer Centers at 112 Colleges and to 70 Centers
23 California State Universities
All California high schools
 Public Website:
www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com
 Radio and On-Line Ads Running
Toolbox: Who can I consult?
 AA-T/AS-T Curriculum: Articulation Officer
 C-ID questions: Articulation Officer or info@c-id.net
 Verification list: See your CSSO
 Verification sent to CSU: contact the appropriate CSU
admission office
 Applicants with degrees not listed on CSU mentor:
students must notify each CSU admission office
 Advising questions: sb1440questions@cccco.edu
 Train your faculty & staff (e.g. department meetings) using the
materials on sb1440.org
 Offer workshops for students (we provided the ppt for you)
 Update catalog, transfer brochure and GE guide, transfer web page,
major sheets, etc.
 Provide input as local AA-T/AS-Ts are developed
 Check resources often:
 http://www.sb1440.org
 http://ccctransfer.org/
 http://www.calstate.edu/transfer/degrees/
 www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com.
Questions?
Please type your questions in the
“Chat” box on your screen and we
will answer them orally for all to hear
Thank you for participating and
sharing this info on your
campus!