Discussion of Long-run effects of idiosyncratic uncertainty in a model with credit market frictions by Morozumi and Ormaechea Stephen Millard Bank of England 12 November 2010 1 Motivation • Many commentators have looked at the role of uncertainty in business cycles • But less investigation of ‘long-run’ impact on output and credit supply of uncertainty • But important what you mean by ‘long run’ – More on this later • Additionally, recent crisis saw a rise in uncertainty, fall in credit and a fall in output 2 Key findings • Increase in uncertainty leads to a long-run fall in output and a long-run fall in the credit-to-output ratio • Can explain long-run correlation between the two – But what do we mean by long-run correlation? • More later 3 Modelling Approach • Entrepreneurs need to borrow to finance working capital – cf My paper with Michael McMahon and others to be presented later • Uncertainty about output (sales?) at time loan is made leads to possibility of default • This implies a risk premium on these otherwise interest-free loans 4 Modelling Approach • I’m not sure about interest-free loans • Loans are ‘within period’ within the model but surely this still implies some time? • Banks typically have to fund their loans from somewhere so I’d expect to see some sort of funding cost – Both aspects present in Fernandez-Corugedo et al. – But may not matter for the results of this paper?5 Modelling Approach • Distortion arises from the ‘costly state verification’ problem – Key parameter is m, the monitoring cost – As ever, this might be better thought of as ‘losses arising in bankruptcy’ costs – Technical comment (1): Can banks seize a defaulting firms capital? They should do. • Is this distortion really relevant for such short-term loans? 6 Modelling Approach • Intuitively, it is the uncertainty associated with investment projects that you might think gives rise to a costly state verification problem • Yet, all investment in this model is done out of retained earnings • Is there really much (any) uncertainty about production within a period? – There may be about sales … 7 Modelling Approach • Technical comment (2): – I think the entrepreneurs budget constaint might be wrong (though it could just be me!) – Should it not be: f t At F H t , K t Cte K te1 1 d K te – This error carries through until you make the assumption that d equals 1 – But I’m not sure it makes and qualitative difference to your results anyway 8 Results and comments • Compare steady states of the model with different degrees of uncertainty • An increase in uncertainty – measured as a mean preserving spread (MPS) in idiosyncratic productivity shocks – leads to a fall in steady-state output and the creditoutput ratio – Provided distribution of shocks is symmetric and bell-shaped and the default rate is small enough. 9 Results and comments • As long as a MPS leads to an increase in the deadweight loss associated with the CSV problem, then output and the credit-output ratio will fall – I must admit to being confused over the difference between the deadweight loss and the ‘entrepreneurs share’ distortion; I’d appreciate some intuition as to whether or not this is a separate distortion (I think not) and why it adds to the existing deadweight loss 10 Results and comments • For their particular calibration, the result follows • Does the result depend on using a beta distribution? – Would increasing the standard deviation of other distributions – normal, t – achieve the same effect? – Is a beta distribution reasonable for the sort of uncertainty they’re thinking about? • The authors flag further work that’s relevant here. 11 Results and comments • Section 3.5 gives the sign of some derivatives given their calculations – What does it add over Section 4? • The effect on output looks very small – Or is it that the movements in uncertainty they look at are small? I’m afraid I don’t know how to think about this. – Back to my original motivation: the recent credit crisis seems to have lowered output by roughly 8%. 12 General comment • What do we mean by ‘long-run’ effects? • Authors compare their results to the literature that says that output and the credit-output ratio are positively correlated in the long run • To me, that means that as output has grown, so has the credit-output rate – Surely idiosyncratic uncertainty cannot have trended downwards? 13 General comment Potential output Credit-output ratio Actual output Increase in uncertainty Increase in uncertainty • Authors’ model seeks to explain the break in the trend rather than the trend itself 14 • The literature on financial deepening is all about the trend