Cranfield School of Management Interview: Professor Mark Jenkins Performance at the Limit: Business Lessons from Formula 1 Motor Racing TT Welcome to the Knowledge Interchange Podcast. I'm Toby Thompson from the Learning Services Team and I've been talking to Mark Jenkins, Professor of Business Strategy here at Cranfield School of Management. Mark specialises in looking at the role of knowledge and innovation in the development of Formula 1 motorsport. We were talking about his recent book entitled Performance at the Limit: Business Lessons from Formula 1 Motor Racing. Mark co-authored this book with Ken Pasternak and Richard West. To give a flavour of Mark's book – here is what some of the reviewers are saying of it: “Performance at the Limit demonstrates how Formula 1 embodies the essential synergies of business – the conjunction of leadership, knowledge and attention to detail.” So it was with that in mind that I asked Mark some questions about his book. Mark, could you tell me how you became interested in the performance lessons from Formula 1. MJ The first thing that got me thinking about the Formula 1 teams was a challenge we had on our MBA programme to teach an area of strategy called the 'resource based view' which is essentially saying that companies are able to achieve high levels of performance because they have unique and distinctive resources at their disposal and the great thing about Formula 1 is that the teams are very, very similar - they are similar sizes, they are even located quite closely together and yet some are able to outperform the others. So I then wrote a series of case studies really to explore how these teams were able to create performance in particular time periods and what I realised as I got into it was how much depth there was and how much difference there was in between those teams. So I am particularly interested in performance in terms of understanding the real idiosyncratic details of companies. Every company is different and every company achieves its performance in a different way. TT Something that you should have expected to be quite similar across each team has turned out to be quite different. MJ Absolutely in management, you get a lot of well known statements – treat your people right, your people are important, you need to communicate and so on but I think the thing for me is doing one thing Knowledge Interchange Podcasts Page 1 Cranfield School of Management Professor Mark Jenkins in one company can have a different effect than it can in another and it's understanding those details that's the important issue TT How much do you have to understand that full context to get that information out? MJ I think you have to understand it very deeply because from the outside superficially it's all about drivers and politics really but actually when you look underneath there is a lot of organizational issues going on that explain why some of these teams are able to outperform others. You can tie very clearly back to strategy, to people thinking about the organization, what it's trying to do and putting all the right resources in place. TT So the key question for this is how do you apply the lessons from Formula 1 to executive development? MJ I think for me the key issue in Formula 1 is you've got money financial resources, you've got technical resources, you've got human resources. You've got to combine them together to outperform the competition. And that is at the nub of what most organizations are trying to do. TT So a resource based view of the organization. MJ Well yes it’s a general parallel. How do you get all this stuff, people, money, whatever to work together to achieve an incredible performance outcome that outperforms everybody else in this particular business. So that makes it a very relevant context for people to think about. You've got issues around teams, you've got issues around inter-team coordination - how different technology parts work together – how you work with your supplier network – how you manage talent. All these things are current issues for most executives. TT Some of them seem non resource based – they seem quite intangible? MJ Well, the resource based idea actually would say the real secrets of performance are intangibles. In other words you can have a driver, who's great in one team and you move him into another and it all falls apart and that driver hasn't suddenly lost his ability to drive in that time. It's because the interface - the way they are working with their engineers, the way the development process is going has all fallen apart and needs to be built up again. TT In Formula 1 most people get an idea of the pit stop and teamwork. Do you have examples, spectacular examples where Formula 1 teamwork has failed? MJ Absolutely, we've got a few video clips that I sometimes use on some Knowledge Interchange Podcasts Page 2 Cranfield School of Management Professor Mark Jenkins of my sessions. There is a famous one with Ferrari in 1999 where they had one car come in and then Eddie Irvine in a second Ferrari followed a few seconds later, and they only brought out three wheels. So they stood around wondering where the fourth wheel had got to and there are other more serious examples where fires have broken out. There was Jos Verstappen in 1995 I think it was (correction 1994) where they spilt some fuel and the whole thing erupted into an inferno. So there are examples where people have made mistakes and things have gone wrong. The important bit from an organizational perspective is how they recovered from that and what they learned from it. Because the other important thing about Formula 1 is that everyone has to learn all the time and get better and better. You have to learn from your mistakes – you have to analyze these problems – try and understand what really went wrong here. The natural instinct is often that person screwed up so we've got to fire them. Actually that's very rarely the case – it's more a systemic problem and you need to understand that and get away from blaming particular individuals to see what that systemic problem really is. TT So the success in this context is an appreciation of the whole system? MJ Absolutely, one of the things we talk about in the book is a 'no blame' culture and that's one of the twee terms but essentially what it means is what goes on here. The minute you start to blame people, you start to hide mistakes – you get the cover-up mentality because you know you're going to get blame. So how do you create a situation where people feel- are able to say “I screwed up there” and this is what went wrong. You need to understand that to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's not a natural human tendency and it is partly because in Formula 1 particularly people see this close link between their actions and the performance outcome or between their actions and the lack of a performance outcome that really helps them get that kind of culture where people are prepared to say “Look I made a mistake there.” TT So performance orientation, so everyone is thinking how does this affect the performance of the team. MJ Absolutely, everyone understands why they are there. In many organizations, the overall performance of the business is not what's uppermost in people's minds. It's their own personal situations, the situation of their department, protecting their resources rather than seeing that whole and moving together to actually achieve that overall performance outcome because it often means to get the overall outcome you've got to trade off between the resources and there are some areas that perhaps don't need top perform fantastically. We've got a great quote from Ross Brawn “This isn't about making the best engine, its not about the best aerodynamics, the best chassis. It's about making a Ferrari. Its how these parts work together that's the Knowledge Interchange Podcasts Page 3 Cranfield School of Management Professor Mark Jenkins critical bit and organizations are no different. TT There's an interesting unitariness – things cohering together. Is it always to do with unitariness Is there a fragmentation, people doing different things and thinking different things. MJ Yes, another quote I like from Pat Symonds, Engineering Director for Renault Formula 1: “We like people who think as individuals but behave as team players.” In other words you want people to have creative ideas, you want people to think outside the box because otherwise you don't move forward. But those people have to work together and you have to understand the team and that team and I'm not talking about team in a cosy, everyone's friendly and loving each other, they are all challenging each other but they work and listen to each other and they work together to get that performance outcome. TT So critics who would say it's all to do with money are wrong? It's a lot more than just money. MJ Absolutely, I wouldn't say its nothing to do with money because the work we have looked at, and there are examples in the book, is that typically the most well funded teams will be at the top end of the performance and the least funded teams will be at the bottom. TT So there's a correlation there? MJ There is often a correlation at the top and the bottom. The interesting thing is what's going on in the middle. So what you often find, for example, in 2006, Renault were the F1 Constructors and Drivers champions. So they were first among 11 teams. Their budget is ranking around 5th and 6th out of those teams. So they far outperformed their budget relative to the other teams. In contrast Toyota have the biggest budget and still have not won a Grand Prix since 1999 when they started. So they haven't been able to convert the financial resource into performance. So it's not a hard and fast rule. It's at those kind of exceptions where it's interesting to see why was one team on a small budget having to perform so well and another team on a very big budget can't actually convert that into performance. TT So it’s those intangibles and that systemic picture again – interesting. So where is your research taking you now from this book? MJ One of the interesting areas from this is, one of the things I talk about is strategy as teams. We think of team work as a small group thing but the really interesting thing about team work is you get different teams of people working together and that's what strategy is about i.e. the sales team, the marketing team, the finance team working together to achieve the best overall performance. So you begin to think of it more how you integrate these different teams and Knowledge Interchange Podcasts Page 4 Cranfield School of Management Professor Mark Jenkins how they trade off between each other and how you create an environment that allows them to a) work together, communicate well and b) coordinate what they're doing, I think is really where organizations should be aiming so that's an area I'm particularly interested in. TT So maybe your next book? Great. Mark, thanks a lot. 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