(National Archives of Scotland: HH1/568) Letter, 4/10/1933 Transcript Home Office

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IMMIGRANT REMOVALS

(National Archives of Scotland: HH1/568) Letter, 4/10/1933

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Home Office

Whitehall

S.W.1.

R.N. Duke, Esq., D. S. O., M. C.

4 th October, 1933

Dear Duke

I am sorry there has been some delay in replying to your letter of the 17 th

August last (32693/35) on the subject of Irish immigration into Scotland. The

Secretary of State is, of course, much interested in this question and in due course should be consulted, but I gather that you are not yet ready to do this and are asking only for departmental co mments.

The statistics show that in recent years 1,200 to 1,300 persons have come to

Scotland from the Free State. Would a prohibition limited to those who are insane or have criminal records keep out 1% of them? It appears that to keep out a negligible number of lunatics and criminals it would be necessary to set up traffic control over British subjects coming (a) to British ports, (b) over the land boundary in Northern Ireland. In this connection I would draw your attention to the letter addressed to the Prime Minister on the 13 th August,

1931, a copy of which was sent to your department on the 20 th August, 1931

(432,707/81). The deportation proposal would no doubt have more effect.

Perhaps it would be desirable to give an estimate of the measure of this effect. There are now in Scotland only 5,512 immigrants from the Free State with less than five years’ residence. How many of these would be eligible for deportation if the proposal was put into practice?

Another point which occurs to us is that there ar e many British subjects, such as negroes, Chinese, Indians, Cypriots, etc., all of whom are more difficult to assimilate than natives of the Free State. So far, however, the Home Office has not felt it necessary to propose a reversal of the traditional pol icy of the

‘open door’ to British subjects; and it seems difficult to base so large a change of policy on the advantages of eliminating a fraction of the Irish population from Scotland.

Do you consider that proposals limited to the repatriation of paupers to ‘their place of settlement’ would help at all? In principle, such a scheme seems right, but the question whether the advantages to Scotland outweigh the difficulties of forcing such a scheme on the Free State is a matter for discussion between your department and the Dominions office.

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I know that Sir John Gilmour would like to help in the matter if it is possible.

Perhaps you would like to confer with us when you have considered the unofficial observations contained in this letter.

Yours sincerely

C. G. Markbreiter

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8

9

1910

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

9

1900

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

(HH1/568) Removal figures table, 1894–1932

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REMOVAL

Number of Irish-born poor persons removed from Scotland to Ireland

(Northern Ireland only from 1923) voluntarily or by Sheriff’s Warrant between 1894 and 1932 .

Year Paupers Depts. Total Year Paupers Depts. Total

1894

5

276

156

46

26

322

182

1920

21

0

27

5

5

45

32

6

7

8

168

183

127

41

48

9

209

231

136

22

23

24

32

7

35

7

-

9

39

7

44

41

42

58

71

107

146

111

110

78

11

22

5

27

20

43

52

23

14

52

64

63

98

127

25

26

27

28

29

189 1930

163

133

92

31

32

10

24

28

20

40

46

16

33

-

9

7

9

5

9

14

12

45

55

30

45

10

33

35

29

80

157

120

110

116

114

103

61

59

59

42

24

24

32

25

37

8

14

10

4

17

2

3

1

104

189

145

147

124

128

113

65

76

61

45

25

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Read the letter and look at the table of statistics.

1.

Write a detailed summary with regard to the numbers of Irish immigrant

‘paupers’ who were removed from Scotland in the early 1900s.

2.

What is the attitude of C.G. Markbreiter to immigration at this time?

Give evidence to support your answer.

3.

How useful is this source when considering the government’s views on immigration at the time?

Origin, purpose, content, recall.

(Remember to use your source skills sheet to help you.)

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