PNWCG AVIATION WORKING TEAM
MEETING MINUTES
FEBRUARY 25, 2003
Members Present: Dave Doan WADNR, Susie Bates PWR-NPS, Jon Rollens USFS,
Sandra LaFarr USFS, Clay Hillin BLM, Bill Bulger USFS, Greg Zopettii USFWS, Steve
Rossiter BIA, Jim Ziobro ODF.
Meeting convened at 0900 at the Glacier Room of the Gifford Pinchot Headquarters in
Vancouver Wa.
Introductions: New Members Susie Bates from National Park Service and Jon Rollens
USFS. We now have a representative from the USFWS ( another Z , that’s rare) Greg
Zoppetti. Welcome to the new members.
Dave Doan is new chair and Jon Rollens is Vice Chair
FYI
Clay is the unofficial ( don’t know how you got elected, but thanks) keeper of the
working team website. This site is tied in with the PNWCG website. Visit
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/fire/pnwcg/aviation.
Charter
As required the group reviewed the AWT charter to make sure it was current.
1. Changed title word Wildfire to Incident.
2. Under Mission changed wild-land fire to all incident
3. Under objectives #1 we changed the word fire to aviation.
4. Not sure I captured this right- Second sentence in membership added and changed
the Office of Aircraft Services and the USFS Aviation Safety are not members of
the PNWCG but play -.
5. Under Officers- change elect to rotate.
6. Under duties- Added- Rotation mechanism is – each year.
7. Under vice-chairperson added- will serve as liaison for steering committee and
other working teams.
8. Under Subcommittees need to strike first sentence.
Not sure where we go with this, my assumption being this needs to be forwarded to
steering group for their approval. Need to discuss at next meeting.
Safecoms
Bill Bulger reported that the Safecom system is set to go national in about a month
Aviation Working Team and Training team relations
Quite a discussion on working team relations. Focused on the helicopter manager
position and how the changes occurred and didn’t in the eyes of those effected The AWT
needs a liaison to the steering and training committee as well as other teams. This was
fixed in charter. The vice chair will be used in this role. Hopefully this will help seal the
cracks that issues seem to fall through.
ATGS program
Need to review this program. Chairman will resurrect the ATGS WT advisory committee
to try and move the improvement of this program to a conclusion. The USFS apparently
has committed some money and FTE’s to the program. We’ll try to tie in with that.
SEAT Program
Approximately 11 new SEATS under contract- none in NW. BLM had 27 at one time.
USFS indicates it will be getting more involved in program. Discussion of SEAT
managers and training program followed. Recommendations are going to Fire Managers
and PNWCG.
PNWCG Steering Committee request
Dave Doan gave report on the Steering committee meeting held the day before
(02/24/03). Reported the yearly accomplishments of the AWT. Jim Ziobro was kind
enough to put a list together and I editorialized a little more to emphasize the good work
and the contributions of the AWT members. The steering committee requested that the
AWT accumulate an inventory of available aviation resources and present to them by the
first of April. The group agreed to forward that information to Sandra LaFarr by March
17th.
AWT and other non member agency relations
It was agreed that the National Guards and the BCFS need to be more a part of our issues.
The group agreed to have the next meeting include those parties so issues could be
resolved. That meeting was scheduled for April 24th and Jim Z would contact ONG and
Dave D would do so with BCFS and WNG. ( NOTE: that meeting has been rescheduled
for April 29th)
Meeting Dates
It was agreed to have meetings on the 2nd Tuesday of the 1st Month in the calendar
quarter and the meeting would be held no matter what, unless all members can’t show.
(Course we already have rescheduled the April meeting, nice try huh)Those meetings
would not be rescheduled. FYI July 8th and October 14th are the next dates.
Aviation Policy Standards matrix
The matrix was revised and I believe Clay H agreed to revise it on the website. This
accomplished one of our annual duties.
Aviation Traffic Area Policy
Discussed the California implemented ATA and agreed that what has happened in NW is
kind of not uniform. The working team agreed to get the policy as it is in California and
adopt as a standard in the NW. This will come from working team to the steering
committee. We need to agree on miles first.
Aviation Working Team
PNWCG Aviation Working Team
Policy Matrix
Issues
Members
This chart is used as a
planning and training tool
to indicate policy
conformity and
differences by agencies of
this group. This Matrix is
available in Adobe
Acrobat .pdf.
This page contains issues
and their status before the
team. Also posted here is
the Agenda for our next
Working Team Meeting.
The members of the
Aviation Working Team
and contact information.
Please submit any
comments regarding the
information to the
appropriate representative.
Agency Policy
Links
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PNWCG
Charter
Provides a virtual library
of policy information for
each agency of the team.
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