(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/24/165 Image Reference:0003 THIS DOCUMENT I S THE PROPERTY - OF HIS BRIT A M I 0 MAJESTY S GOVERNMENT. 1 CABINET SUB-OOMMITTEE. INSURANCE, UNEMPLOYMENT BILL. MEMORANDUM BY THE MINISTER OP LABOUR. SECRET M69 ( 2 4 ) . 1. As my c o l l e a g u e s a r e aware I have undertaken to i n t r o d u o e a comprehensive Unemployment Insuranoe Bill a t an e a r l y date. a r i s e s from t h e f a c t The urgency o f that i t l e g i s l a t i o n before Easter i f the m a t t e r iB n e c e s s a r y t o pass l a r g e numbers of unemployed persons a r e not t o be d e p r i v e d o f benefit when t h e e x i s t i n g p r o v i s i o n comes t o an end, as w i l l b e g i n t o do from the middle of A p r i l onwards. I t would be most u n d e s i r a b l e however - even i f were p o l i t i c a l l y possible - to oonfine it the it Governments p r o p o s a l s t o a s t o p - g a p measure on t h i s p o i n t and it w i l l h a r d l y nofel be p o s s i b l e t o pass two Unemployment Insurance B i l l s particularly i n the remainder of The B i l l deal, w i t h the whole 2. should c e r t a i n l y Bill i n b e n e f i t has a l r e a d y t o be i n t r o d u c e d must therefore subjeot. The main q u e s t i o n s w i t h which I (l) Session, as one s h o r t Unemployment Insurance a b o l i s h i n g t h e t h r e e weeks " g a p " been p a s s e d . this deal think the Bill ares­ t h e p e r i o d s f o r whioh Unemployment should i n f u t u r e of Benefit be p a y a b l e , (2) the r a t e s Benefit, (3) the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n ' t o t h e Unemployment Fund, (4) t h e age of e n t r y i n t o the Insurance Soheme and t h e p o s i t i o n w i t h r e g a r d t o refunds contributions of i n c e r t a i n cases t o i n s u r e d ./contributors c o n t r i b u t o r s reaching the age of In a d d i t i o n , 60. the f o l l o w i n g major p o i n t s require consideration:­ ( 6 ) the Trade D i s p u t e s d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n for benefit; (7) S p e c i a l Schemes of Insurance by Industry; ( 8 ) the exception from insurance of certain permanently employed workpeople. 3. I submit proposals on each of the above p o i n t s . I have included a p r e l i m i n a r y estimate of the cost of the v a r i o u s p r o p o s a l s , but as i t has not yet been p o s s i b l e to consult the Government Actuary, figures of cost must be regarded as merely Periods f o r which Unemployment these provisional. Benefit should be p a y a b l e . 4. The one-clause Unemployment Insurance Bill r e c e n t l y passed closed the three weeks " g a p " in benefit. however, From about the middle of A p r i l there w i l l b e , f a i l i n g onwards, l e g i s l a t i o n on the matter, a much more s e r i o u s " g a p " , extending in extreme cases to as muoh as 26 weeks, since the maximum b e n e f i t October, payable in the twelve months from mid- 1923 to mid-October, from mid-October, 1924 I s 26 weeks. 1924, onwards not only w i l l Moreover, benefit i n each 12 months be l i m i t e d to 26 weeks but no uncovenanted b e n e f i t w i l l be payable, so that if unemployment remains in anything l i k e i t s present l a r g e numbers of unemployed persons w i l l or no b e n e f i t , 5. receive state little 0 H i t h e r t o there has always been an a r b i t r a r y limit to the number of weeks of b e n e f i t to be drawn as a /maximum maximum during a p e r i o d of t w e l v e months ( or during one o f t h o " s p e c i a l p e r i o d s " which have from time to time been l a i d down under emergency a r r a n g e m e n t s ) . What may be d e s c r i b e d as the normal p o s i t i o n now under the Unemployment Insurance Scheme i a t h a t not more than 26 weeks b e n e f i t may be drawn i n t w e l v e months. the s t r e s s o f the p r e s e n t emergency t h i s r u l e has been relaxed, and, t o take a r e c e n t example, 44 weeks of b e n e f i t was a l l o w e d out o f a maximum of the 50 weeks between November, 1922, and m i d - O c t o b e r , -6. P r o v i d e d that and bona f i d e I am s a t i s f i e d q u i t e wrong t o Impose an a r b i t r a r y the genuineness o f limit that i t is t o the number t h a t may be drawn i r r e s p e c t i v e the o l a i m . of The o b j e c t which I have s e t . b e f o r e me i s t o d e v i s e a scheme, i f f o r paying b e n e f i t 1923. the c l a i m a n t i s a genuine worker unemployed, of weeks of b e n e f i t Under t h i s be possible, w i t h o u t any such a r b i t r a r y l i m i t unemployed workers b e l o n g i n g t o the i n s u r e d t r a d e s so long as t h e y remain capable o f work and unable t o o b t a i n i t . be overcome i s , of course, that work, g e n u i n e l y of difficulty seeking to s e c u r i n g t h a t such a does not become a s o r t o f p e n s i o n f o r do not want work. for The g r e a t d i f f i c u l t y system would not be abused, and t h a t reality to In f a c t such b e n e f i t persons who i n I b e l i e v e however, t h a t this can be overcome, and I set out i n the Appendix t o t h i s Memorandum the broad o u t l i n e s of the scheme which I would r e commie nd. 7. The e s s e n t i a l up t o a maximum o f features (say) of t h i s scheme a r e that 26 weeks i n s u r e d persons who are unemployed should be a b l e t o draw b e n e f i t * o n which are s u b s t a n t i a l l y the same as those now a p p l y i n g under the permanent p r o v i s i o n s of Not a l l terms the insurance scheme. insured persons would b e e n t i t l e d to draw as much ss 26 /week weeks b e n e f i t on t h e s e t e r m s , because t h e number of weeks thoy oould draw would bear a d e f i n i t e r a t i o t o the number of t i o n s they had t o t h e i r c r e d i t ; but I should contemplate workers who have been i n p r e t t y p e r i o d should be e n t i t l e d approaching I t . the worker, benefit if if After that c o n s t a n t work during a r e c e n t to t h e f u l l this I n i t i a l he s t i l l contribu­ 26 weeks o r something p e r i o d of b e n e f i t was exhausted remained unemployed, would go on drawing he c o u l d show t h a t he s a t i s f i e d certain special oondi­ t i o n s designed t o t e s t the genuineness of h i s c l a i m , and so l o n g as he s a t i s f i e s these c o n d i t i o n s t h e r e would be no l i m i t t o the p e r i o d d u r i n g which he c o u l d draw b e n e f i t . Important reason why s p e c i a l conditions oases t o t e s t the genuineness o f fairly the i n i t i a l p e r i o d , of Benefit the l e n g t h of which w i l l p e r i o d , however, There i s an can be p a i d on abuse f o r what I have recent I n d u s t r i a l h i s t o r y and h i s c r e d i t this i n i t i a l the r i s k of of depend on the By means of a scheme o f t h i o k i n d I b e l i e v e workers, so long as they remain unemployed, 9. recommend i t Provided careful the c o s t of t h i s for After abuse becomes much g r e a t e r paying b e n e f i t c o n t i n u o u s l y w i t h o u t a r b i t r a r y therefore called applicants contributions. and a s p e c i a l s c r u t i n y t o be a p p l i e d from time t o time i s 8, time should b e a p p l i e d i n such claims. eaoy terms without much r i s k of essential. t h a t the o b j e c t limits to of genuine can be a t t a i n e d , and I approval. s t e p s are taken t o a v o i d u n j u s t i f i a b l e c o n c e s s i o n , which would f a l l claims, on the Unemployment Fund and not on the Exchequer, would p r o b a b l y be r o u g h l y £2,500,000 to £3,000,000 during the remainder of ending October, ,1924, already a l l o w e d , and t h i s p r o v i s i o n year, As the r a t e of year, I t i s t o be remembered t h a t during t h i s y e a r covenanted or uncovenanted b e n e f i t f o r the f u l l the p r e s e n t b e n e f i t up t o a maximum of 26 weeks i s estimated t o cost - is £35,000,000 * unemployment e s t i m a t e d f o r the present b e n e f i t year I s 10$, i t may be taken r o u g h l y t h a t the e f f e c t proposal v/ould be t h a t - i n a f u l l t o t a l amount of b e n e f i t paid (at year, of the present with 10% unemployment, the the p r e s e n t r a t e s ) would bo about £58,000,000. At 7-M unemployment, the amount of b e n e f i t would be about £27,000,000 £27,000,000. RATES OF BENEFIT., 10. The e x i s t i n g weekly r a t e s o f b e n e f i t are as follows: For w i f e (or invalid husband) Basio rate. Men, 15/­ Women. 12/- Boy 7/6d. F o r each young child. 5/- 1/- (1^-1P). Girl (16-IF), I n the c a s e ; for example, o f a claimant w i t h a w i f e and t h r e e c h i l d r e n the weekly b e n e f i t 11. is 23/-. The q u e s t i o n o f b r i n g i n g boys and g i r l s between 14 and 16 i n t o unemployment i n s u r a n c e and of the r a t e s benefit t o be p a i d t o them, i s d i s c u s s e d below paragraph 12. I of in gg, c o n s i d e r t h a t the weekly r a t e s f o r men and women should be i n c r e a s e d t o IP./- and 15/- r e s p e c t i v e l y and the rate for a child to 2/-; as i t is. t h e 5/- f o r a w i f e might T h i s would mean t h a t a man with, a w i f e remain and t h r e e c h i l d r e n would draw 2 9 / - . 130 I recognise that before we must l o o k c a r e f u l l y the c o s t of b e n e f i t s , benefit 14-, t h i s p r o p o s a l can be adopted b o t h at the consequent i n c r e a s e and the r e l a t i o n which the in increased would bear t o wages, Tho e f f e c t of cosf of b e n e f i t s i s e s t i m a t e d t o be t o i n c r e a s e the amount p a i d i n b e n e f i t by about %zfe, assuming t h a t the number of r e c i p i e n t s tho change. i s not a f f e c t e d With the p r e s e n t r a t e of unemployment, would mean about £7,500,000 a y e a r , or an a d d i t i o n o f about 4d, a week, on the t o t a l c o n t r i b u t i o n s omployed and the Exchequer. of by this , employers, 15. As r e g a r d s the r e l a t i o n o f the i n c r e a s e d b e n e f i t t o wages, the r e c o g n i s e d r a t e s of wages f o r u n s k i l l e d l a b o u r e r s i n engineering and i n s h i p b u i l d i n g range from 37/- t o 39/- i n a number o f while i n i r o n and s t e e l smelting, 33/3d. on the N o r t h East C o a s t , in S o o t l a n d . It etc., they f a l l as low as 33/lOd, i n the Midlands and 34/5d. The r a t e s o f wages f o r from 85/- i n O x f o r d , N o r f o l k , Lancashire. rolling districts agricultural labourers range S u f f o l k , and Warwick t o 35/- i n N o r t h has t o be remembered a l s o t h a t owing t o t h e a c t u a l weekly e a r n i n g s o f t e n f a i l short-time t o r e a c h the above f i g u r e s , even when the r e c o g n i s e d r a t e s a r e p a i d , and t h a t i n many unorganised t r a d e s the f u l l - t i m e below these 16. e a r n i n g s f o r a d u l t s are often figures, I should mention a l s o the' p o s s i b l e e f f e c t .of i n c r e a s i n g rate of unemployment b e n e f i t i n causing a demand f o r inorease i n s i c k n e s s b e n e f i t . be d e a l t w i t h by the M i n i s t e r the a corresponding T h i s i s a p o i n t which w i l l no doubt of Health. Exchequer G o n t r i b u t i o n . 17. At p r e s e n t the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t e s just over a quarter of the t o t a l c o n t r i b u t i o n s p a i d by e m p l o y e r s , workers and the Exchequer This p r o p o r t i o n of a q u a r t e r was t h a t p a i d under the o r i g i n a l Act up t o November, 1920. The 1930 Act reduced the Exchequer contribution t o about a f i f t h . The p r o p o r t i o n o f o n e - f o u r t h was restored from the d a t e when the payment of g r a n t s i n r e s p e c t dependents began i n 1921. The Aot of Unemployment Fund i s a g a i n s o l v e n t , to be reduced t o o n e - f i f t h IS- 1911 of of 1983, p r o v i d e s t h a t when the the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n 1B the w h o l e . The N a t i o n a l C o n f e d e r a t i o n o f E m p l o y e r s ' O r g a n i s a t i o n s have recently issued a r e p o r t on Unemployment i n s u r a n c e i n which they recommend t h a t when the Fund i s s o l v e n t the Exchequer should pay the same r a t e as the employer and the w o r k e r , the whole. They a n t i c i p a t e n t r i b u t i c n would a l l o w of i.e., one-third of t h a t t h e i n c r e a s e i n the Exchequer som6 improvement i n the d i r e o t i o n of creasing the number of weeks f o r whioh b e n e f i t could be p a i d . /19. 19. I propose t h a t from t h e d a t e o f new A c t , o p e r a t i o n of the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n should be so as t o become o n e - t h i r d o f and t h a t , further, the t o t a l increased contributions, t h i s p r o p o r t i o n should not be reduced when the Unemployment Fund i s a g a i n s o l v e n t . following.table the shows t h e r e s u l t i n g The contributions in the case o f men:­ (a) at present ratess- Employer. (b) 20. lOd. Worker. 9d. Exchequer. 9-grd. (aB a g a i n s t 6-fd.now). maximum r a t e s l e g a l l y p e r m i s s i b l e - a f t e r solvenoy i s r e a c h e d : Employer. 6d. Worker. Sd. State. 6d. (as a g a i n s t 3d. as at present p r o v i d e d ) , Tbe e s t i m a t e d Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n f o r the F i n a n c i a l Y e a r 1924-25, a t t h e e x i s t i n g r a t e s , i s If the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n i s r a i s e d , this figure £12,-800,000* as proposed a b o v e , would become £18,350,000 - an i n c r e a s e of £5,450,000. 21. When the Fund i s contribution, existing a t the maximum . r a t e s p e r m i s s i b l e under legislation, £5,675,000. If I realise and i n a normal y e a r , would be about the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n were as proposed a b o v e , 22. s o l v e n t the e s t i m a t e d Exchequer increased t h a t f i g u r e would be doubled. t h a t the s u b s t a n t i a l i n c r e a s e i n the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n h e r e proposed i s a matter which, view o f t h e o t h e r demands on the Exchequer, cannot be lightly conceded. I would p o i n t out however i n support the p r o p o s a l t h a t i t can f a i r l y in of be argued that the Exchequer /ought ought to bear o n e - t h i r d o f t h e t o t a l c o s t and f u r t h e r that i t is only by increasing, the Exchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n t h a t t h e r e i s any chance of f i n d i n g money f o r the o t h e r p r o p o s a l s i n t h i s memorandum without i n c r e a s i n g the a l r e a d y v e r y heavy people and t h e i r employers. AGE OP EKTRY IHTO UHEMPLOYkEKT 23, The f a c t - c o n t r i b u t i o n s from work­ IBBTOABDB. t h a t boys and g i r l s between 14 and 16 a r e not against unemployment l e a d s t o c e r t a i n s e r i o u s Although the g r e a t m a j o r i t y of insured disadvantages. them e n t e r i n d u s t r y on l e a v i n g they cannot draw unemployment b e n e f i t when unemployed. school Only a small number of them a r e r e g i s t e r e d at the Employment Exchanges and t h e r e is, therefore, an almost complete absence o f r e l i a b l e to the e x t e n t t o which they a r e i n f a c t reason the Employment Exchanges unemployed: information for ( o r the L o o a l E d u c a t i o n the Bame Authorities which do Choice of Employment w o r k ) f i n d i t much more d i f f i c u l t keep i n touch w i t h boys and g i r l s between 14 and 16 than w i t h between 16 and I P . I n areas where unemployment among is serious the b e s t a v a i l a b l e means of d e a l i n g w i t h i t by g e t t i n g the unemployed boys and. g i r l s Unemployment C e n t r e s . to attend to those juveniles at p r e s e n t is Juvenile Those between 16 and IP are compelled t o such Centres as a c o n d i t i o n of r e c e i v i n g b e n e f i t , as attend but t h i s does not apply t o those between 14 and 16, and i n p r a c t i c e o n l y a few of them attend v o l u n t a r i l y . the These are a l l s t r o n g reasons f o r age of e n t r y i n t o Unemployment Insurance 124. if the age of Ireduoed t o 14 i t leasential, reducing to 14. e n t r y i n t o unemployment Insurance were would be most d e s i r a b l e , on a d m i n i s t r a t i v e grounds f o r and i n d e e d almost the r a t e s of contributions jln r e s p e s t o f boys and g i r l s between 14 and IS to be the same ae £those f o r boys and g i r l s between 16 and 18. for these boys and g i r l s are as The p r e s e n t rates follows:-; /Employer Employed. Employer. Boys 53, Girls 4g-d. 25., It is and girls 4s. The 16 a n d , 18 to the 4d. suggested between - current he rate to and 16, and the benefit for them, he too as h o y s justified have only The collected 16 high for come paid total in Boys and 5s. between regard rates of girls between in the the and those benefit rate same 18, are 14 of contribu­ could between and h a v e boys Girls girls Having contributions ths amount circumstances are estimated and 16 for further 14 and 16 therefore contributions. and Employers pay insurance few amount and that - 6s, those they benefit hoys Girls between into he reduction ground very for hoys although the weekly should wages, suggested on the 7s.6d. of 8 rates and g i r l s just necessarily 26. 14 arid Boys thought tions that corresponding are Exchequer. of benefit to be likely paid in be present as f o l l o w s !­ £. employed. to 1,240,000 Exchequer. 510,000 1,750,000 If one-third and to the same, of Exchequer Contribution is tho (as above whole contributions £150,000 27. the The the to from annual proposed employers revenue of uncertain as the rate and is not accurately a w£ek it and be in to paras, ip employed increased might benefit of probably that would unemployment known, amount to but be paid among at by about £275,000 is these^boys gs. and 4s. annually. /28. ,% p q ) remained £1,900,000. amount girls would increased 28. Administrative expenses would f a l l deducted and i n a d d i t i o n i t of tho revenue from g i r l s between is t o be contemplated t h a t tho c o n t r i b u t i o n s part o f boys and 14 and 16 and a l s o from those between 16 and 18 should be a p p l i e d t o a s s i o t o f J u v e n i l e Unemployment C e n t r e s . that a grant of tho maintenance It is suggested a c e r t a i n amount p e r a t t e n d a n c e should b e made from the Unemployment Fund t o the L o c a l Education A u t h o r i t y i n r e s p o c t of ( o r o t h e r body running a C e n t r e ) a boy and g i r l required to attend Oontre as a c o n d i t i o n or r e c e i v i n g b e n e f i t . the It hoped to a r r a n g e through the L o c a l Eduoation Authority and in c o - o p e r a t i o n w i t h the Board o f Eduoation i n s u r e d boys and g i r l s shall p o s s i b l e a t t e n d some u s e f u l oaeea at 29. that i n as many c a s e s as course o f instruction p e r i o d s of unemployment, i n s t e a d o f b e i n g l e f t w i t h o u t g u i d a n c e or t r a i n i n g is during entirely as they are i n too many present. The f i g u r e s g i v e n i n p a r a . 26 r e l a t e c o n d i t i o n s when a s p e c i a l l y heavy r a t e o f i s b e i n g charged i n o r d e r t o meet the unemployment now p r e v a i l i n g . the r a t e o f to present contribution exceptional In normal clroumstanoes c o n t r i b u t i o n s would be r e d u c e d and i t e s t i m a t e d t h a t t h e n e t income, a f t e r allowing is for expenses, would be no more than about £800,000 a y e a r , whereas the b e n e f i t substantially expenditure i s not l i k e l y reduced. Under the e x i s t i n g Insurance Sohemo any exoess of o v e r e x p e n d i t u r e on b e n e f i t s deraption-of b a l a n c e of inoome from Unemployment contributions i s a p p l i e d t o the re­ the debt on the Unemployment Fund, an& any c o n t r i b u t i o n s o b t a i n e d from should n o t escape t h i s l i a b i l i t y other classes of risk I s to be low. juveniles whioh i s Bhared by i n s u r e d persons where unemployment 50. In considering t h i s proposal it i s necessary to take account of p o s s i b l e r e a c t i o n on tho H e a l t h Insurance Scheme, If the age of e n t r y f o r Unemployment Insurance were reduced t o 14 t h e r e would almost c e r t a i n l y be a demand f o r a similar reduction i n the case of H e a l t h I n s u r a n c e , whioh would be d i f f i c u l t r e s i s t as i t to would n o t be easy t o defend an arrangement under which b e n e f i t was p a y a b l e w h i l e a boy was w e l l but ceased on h i s falling ill. the f a c t One s p e c i a l the age of contribution or b e n e f i t e i t h e r have t o pay Health Insurance) s p e c i a l r a t e s of of (which would be e n t i r e l y new f o r r a t e s of contribution, Under the f o r m e r arrangement the insured of h i s b e n e f i t s o v e r - c h a r g e d in r e l a t i o n contribution in r e l a t i o n the f u l l r a t e of 15s. a week f o r benefit of 7 s , 6 d . and would l o a d t o m a l i n g e r i n g . l a t t e r plan a d i f f e r e n t i a l r a t o of duced, which would cause t r o u b l e is sickness a boy had been on unemployment Under the c o n t r i b u t i o n would be i n t r o ­ t o employers and would i n o r e a s e the work of Approved S o c i e t i e s and of tho M i n i s t r y of Health. I s p r o b a b l e t h a t t h e r e would bo a demand from some quarters, f o r the l o w e r i n g of the age l i m i t f o r Health- t h a t f o r Unemployment Insurance wore l o w e r e d , such p r o p o s a l would be l i k e l y sections costs to t h e wages which he would bo unduly h i g h a f t e r older Friendly would person to the c u r r e n t benefit While i t those and the employer would be c a l l e d upon t o pay a Moreover, Insurance i f and prosumably Under e i t h e r p l a n s e r i o u s d i f f i c u l t i e s would be s e r i o u s l y h i g h r a t e of contributions b e n e f i t , would havo to be i n t r o d u c e d f o r between 14 and 1 6 . be c r e a t e d . special Accordingly, i n t o H e a l t h I n s u r a n c e , they would the r e l a t i v e l y h i g h weekly a p p l y i n g to a d u l t s , or a system -31. from f o r persons below 18 as t h e r e i s i n Unemployment I n s u r a n c e . persons below 16 wero brought paying. in t h i s case a r i s e s t h a t under the H e a l t h Insurance Scheme t h e r e i s no r e ­ d u c t i o n i n the r a t o s o f if difficulty to meet w i t h o p p o s i t i o n from S o c i e t i e s who at p r e s e n t l o o k to t h e i r as the r e c r u i t i n g ground f o r boys and g i r l s S t a t e - i n s u r e d members a t age 16. any the juvenile becoming 52. The Cabinet have already had t h i s matter before them and have agreed that the M i n i s t e r of Labour, i n preparing for the information arid consideration of the Cabinet an Unemployment Incurance B i l l p r o v i s i o n in the B i l l f o r should be authorised to make the extension of Unemployment Insurance to Juveniles ae and when they begin to work f o r wages. The Cabinet f u r t h e r decided that the M i n i s t e r of Labour, the M i n i s t e r of Education and the Secretary Scotland, in a l l should examine the question of i t s bearings f o r refunds of the age o f 60. Section 25 of provides f o r j u v e n i l e Unemployment and r e p o r t to the C a b i n e t . Provision 35. for contributions in c e r t a i n cases the Unemployment Insurance Act, at 1920, a refund to an insured worker a t the age of 60 of h i s share of the c o n t r i b u t i o n s paid in r e s p e c t of him, l e s s any b e n e f i t he has received but with the a d d i t i o n -of compound i n t e r e s t at 2-1 per cent on the excess of c o n t r i b u t i o n s over 34. benefit. I t i s a condition f o r the r e c e i p t of refunds 500 c o n t r i b u t i o n s s h a l l have been p a i d ; tire case of that except that i n a worker who entered insurance at the age of 55 or more t h i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n 55.'- his is reduced. The refunds are c o s t l y i n themselves and Involve a disproportionate expense in a d m i n i s t r a t i o n . refunded in the year amount w i l l 1922-23 was n e a r l y increase yearly and w i l l £1,000,000 i n 1928-29. figure will be l a r g e l y The amount £200,000. The probably exceed In subsequent years even t h i s exceeded. % , 36. The refunds were considered In 1922 by a Committee which tho Government A c t u a r y was Chairman. felt of t h a t t h e r e was c o n s i d e r a b l e contributions refund i t was an attempt They were unanimous recommending t h a t the system should be a b o l i s h e d they Committee o b j e c t i o n t o the on t h e ground t h a t mis insurance and b a n k i n g . The of to in thought i n d i c a t e d t h a t compensation might have t o be made t o persons w i t h accrued r i g h t s . They were s a t i s f i e d t h a t no m a t e r i a l p r e s e n t v a l u e a t t a o h e d t o any r i g h t s of below t h e age of of whom l e s s 50, or of persons i n r e s p e c t than 50 c o n t r i b u t i o n s the n a t i o n a l had been p a i d . Confederation persons The r e o e n t Report o f Employers on Unemployment Insurance r e h e a r s e s the arguments o f the Committee referred just t o and. re commends the a b o l i t i o n o f the refund w i t h "some o t h e r have accrued, 37. There of system compensatory a d v a n t a g e " in oases where rights i s no doubt t h a t the refund system i s an anomaly i n the Unemployment Insurance Scheme, and t h a t it lays a v e r y heavy burden on t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i o n o f the Scheme, necessitating payment o f as i t contributions The argument i n i t s refund does the r e t e n t i o n o f e v i d e n c e over v e r y l o n g p e r i o d s f a v o u r has been t h a t the of of years. chanoe of a i s some compensation to an i n d i v i d u a l worker s t e a d y employment who never or h a r d l y e v e r , JPund f o r industrial benefit general principle however, during h i s of tho Unemployment c a l l s upon the career. The Insurance Scheme, i s t h a t the good r i s k s must h e l p t o pay f o r bad r i s k s , and i t is in the i n c o n s i s t e n t t o r e t u r n the premiums /in in i n d i v i d u a l good r i s k matured. It in rates of oases because no r i s k has should be added t h a t t h e many v a r i a t i o n s .. c o n t r i b u t i o n and b e n e f i t c o n s i d e r a b l y the d i f f i c u l t y that in any case the of inorease have increased c a l c u l a t i n g refunds; i n the r a t e s and of c o n t r i b u t i o n d u r i n g t h e p a s t few y e a r s has been, and should b e , g e n e r a l l y r e g a r d e d as a s p e c i a l meet e x c e p t i o n a l 38. a b o l i s h e d and t h a t it i s made, t h i s refunds if as I hope, t h e extension p r o v i s i o n proposed by t h i s memorandum, extension g e n e r a l ground f o r compensation. could be r e g a r d e d as a good not p r o p o s i n g any If, however, should be a scheme o f it special i s thought t h a t compensation f o r compensation might perhaps be t h e payment t o (say) 50 c o n t r i b u t i o n s at l e a s t , persons of the p r e s e n t v a l u e contributions over whioh t h e y have r e c e i v e d , the r a t e s o f the 5 0 y e a r s of age and have p a i d e x c e s s v a l u e of t h e i r a t 2-^ p e r c e n t . there cases where r i g h t s may be s a i d to have a l r e a d y a c c r u e d , who a r e o v e r should.be i s not n e c e s s a r y t o adopt any compensation; i n the b e n e f i t to depression. I suggest that the p r o v i s i o n for scheme of "levy" p l u s compound of the benefit interest For the purpose of t h i s c o n t r i b u t i o n and b e n e f i t (say) calculation should be t a k e n as h a v i n g been throughout those o f the P r i n c i p a l Act 1920. Further, any a p p l i c a t i o n f o r compensation should be made w i t h i n t w e l v e months o f the date the p a s s i n g o f the new A c t . /IRAEH of of TjiADE DISPUTE DISQUALIFICATION." 39. Under t h e e x i s t i n g since l a w , whioh has been i n o p e r a t i o n the i n i t i a t i o n of t h e Unemployment Insurance Scheme i n 1913, a l l workpeople who are thrown out o f work owing t o a s t o p p a g e due t o a t r a d e d i s p u t e at the e s t a b l i s h m e n t a t which t h e y are employed are d i s q u a l i f i e d as l o n g as the stoppage c o n t i n u e s , conditions for benefit save t h a t under t h e y may remove the d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n by o b t a i n i n g work e l s e w h e r e , The d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n applies whether or not the workpeople a r e t a k i n g any p a r t dispute. of l a r g e certain I t has c o n s e q u e n t l y r e s u l t e d i n the i n the d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n numbers o f workpeople who are thrown out o f work owing t o d i s p u t e s over which t h e y have no c o n t r o l and i n which t h e y take no p a r t . For t h i s r e a s o n the Trade Unions and t h e Labour P a r t y have f o r y e a r s been p r e s s i n g amendment o f t h e law so as t o remove the from those not p a r t i c i p a t i n g 40. f o r some disqualification i n the d i s p u t e . The main argument a g a i n s t removing the disqualification i n such cases i s t h a t , a l t h o u g h a workman may n o t be t a k i n g part d i r e c t l y i n a d i s p u t e p e r s o n a l l y o r through h i s Trade U n i o n , h i s Union or some F e d e r a t i o n t o which h i s Union b e l o n g s may be a s s i s t i n g the d i s p u t e d i r e c t l y or indirectly o f the d i s p u t e may be p a r t o f an arranged plan under whioh, if the d i s p u t e Federation w i l l i s a s u c c e s s , t h e workman's Union or h i s benefit. M o r e o v e r , even i f the d i s p u t e concerns a grade o t h e r than t h a t t o whioh the workman belongs, it is very o f t e n , i f not u s u a l l y , the case a change o f r a t e s o f pay or working c o n d i t i o n s i n an e s t a b l i s h m e n t for necessitates forgone a corresponding o t h e r g r a d e s , so t h a t the workman i s u s u a l l y in fact that grade change interested i n the i s s u e o f t h e d i s p u t e even though he i s not /taking taking part in 41. it. The p l a n o f removing the d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n workpeople not p a r t i c i p a t i n g i n the d i s p u t e open t o t h e v e r y s e r i o u s p r a c t i c a l be e x t r e m e l y d i f f i c u l t not a 42. from is further objection that i t . would i n many cases t o d e c i d e whether or p a r t i c u l a r workman was, so participating. The e x i s t i n g law on the s u b j e c t r e p r e s e n t s a P a r l i a m e n t a r y compromise a r r i v e d proposals a t i n 1911, Subsequent t o amend i t have been met w i t h o b j e c t i o n s the e m p l o y e r s , and In o r d e r t o see whether amendment could not be found, employers, employed a Committee some agreed representing and t h e M i n i s t r y o f Labour was s e t up as long ago as June, 1922. This Committee has since h e l d a number o f meetings without making any r e a l towards agreement, and has now f i n a l l y attempt t o a r r i v e at an a g r e e m e n t . days ago made a r e p o r t 43, I t now r e s t s to t h i s abandoned i n s e r t e d i n the B i l l effect. If as i n t r o d u c e d i t would be c a r r i e d House, I n the l i g h t whether it a clause achieve the o b j e c t an amendment is the from i n the d i s p u t e , to i n the case o f I t h i n k , however, cannot be a d e c i s i v e that the factor h e r e , since certain question the change made at a l l would be made i n o r d e r t o remedy a grievance. quite I am c o n s i d e r i n g such a change i s e x t r e m e l y hard classes of d i s p u t e s . if it will t o frame a c l a u s e which w i l l e s t i m a t e but might be c o n s i d e r a b l e of cost not o f removing the d i s q u a l i f i c a t i o n persons not p a r t i c i p a t i n g The c o s t o f is on a f r e e v o t e o f of these faots would be p o s s i b l e consider should be c e r t a i n l y be moved and s t r o n g l y p r e s s e d , a n d 44',' the w i t h the M i n i s t e r o f Labour t o i n c l u d e d i n the proposed B i l l . progress The Committee a few whether a c l a u s e d e a l i n g w i t h the s u b j e c t l i k e l y that from SPECIAL SCHEMES OP INSURANCE BY INDUSTRY. 45. S e c t i o n 18 o f the Unemployment Insurance A c t , allowed an i n d u s t r y , s u b j e c t t o the a p p r o v a l o f the M i n i s t r y o f Labour, t o s e t up a s p e c i a l scheme f o r and so c o n t r a c t out o f t h e g e n e r a l scheme. o f r e a s o n s , the c h i e f 1920, itself For a v a r i e t y o f vfhich was the g r o a t . t r a d e depression, v e r y few i n d u s t r i e s t o o k advantage o f t h i s p r o v i s i o n . A s p e c i a l scheme c o v e r i n g about 80,000 workers has been s e t up f o r the Insurance Industry i n Great B r i t a i n and Ireland, and another scheme c o v e r i n g t h e Banking I n d u s t r y i n England and Wales I s i n an advanced state of preparation. schemes, h o w e v e r , had been put forward tentative No o t h e r i n more than a ! f a s h i o n when In the summer of 1921, owing t o g r e a t s t r a i n on the Fund o f placed by l e g i s l a t i o n the g e n e r a l scheme, an embargo was on t h e f o r m a t i o n o f any new s p e c i a l schemes u n t i l the Unemployment Fund a g a i n became solvent. The r e a s o n f o r t h i s embargo was t h a t i t was c l e a r l y right that special the i n d u s t r i e s w i t h low r i s k s should, by s e t t i n g up schemes, escape t h e g e n e r a l l i a b i l i t y debt c o n t r a c t e d by the g e n e r a l not fund. t o repay the The embargo d i d not a p p l y t o schemes which a t t h a t d a t e had been s e t up, or had been submitted t o the M i n i s t r y of Labour-in a oomplete form ( i , e . i t did not a p p l y t o the Insurance I n d u s t r y and Banking Schemes) but apart from these two no s p e c i a l sohemes can be formed u n t i l the Unemployment Fund i s 46. The trend o f solvent. i n d u s t r i d . o p i n i o n d u r i n g the l a s t or two seems t o have been d i s t i n c t l y a g a i n s t t h e of s p e c i a l schemes, i . e , the p r i n c i p l e be a l l o w e d to deal separately with i t s year principle t h a t an i n d u s t r y should own unemployment and not share i n common w i t h o t h e r s the g e n e r a l burden o f /unemployment. unemployment. In practice, of course, it is the industries w i t h the l e a s t unemployment which would form s p e c i a l and thus' e s c a p e the l i a b i l i t y for c o n t r i b u t i n g towards c o s t o f the h e a v i e r unemployment i n o t h e r 47, schemes the trades. The R e p o r t on Unemployment Insurance r e c e n t l y made by the N a t i o n a l C o n f e d e r a t i o n o f E m p l o y e r s ' Organisations,in response t o an i n q u i r y from the M i n i s t r y pronounced a g a i n s t the p r i n c i p l e o f s p e c i a l schemes. definitely' The Trades Union Congress G e n e r a l C o u n c i l w a s . a l s o asked by the M i n i s t r y c o n s i d e r the m a t t e r but has not y e t r e p l i e d . that while a numerical m a j o r i t y In f a v o u r of is understood at the l a s t Congress was p r o b a b l y opposed t o the p r i n c i p l e a strong minority It o f s p e c i a l schemes t h e r e it. The d e c i s i o n , in the m a t t e r t o a Committee f o r practically inquiry, and t h i s that i t was s h e l v e d f o r t h e time 48. The q u e s t i o n whether or not s p e c i a l special schemes are o f the schemes i n p r a c t i c e would workpeople w i t h the l o w e s t r i s k s meant being, has a most important b e a r i n g on the f i n a n c e scheme, s i n c e was fact, taken by the l a s t Congress was t o r e f e r further to it follows permissible general cover that i f any c o n s i d e r a b l e number o f workpeople a r e c o v e r e d by such schemes, the r a t e o f contribution required under t h e g e n e r a l f o r any p a r t i c u l a r p r o v i s i o n o f b e n e f i t must be h i g h e r than i t would o t h e r w i s e b e . Further, formed makes i t impossible substantially a state u n c e r t a i n t y as t o whether s p e c i a l schemes w i l l scheme of or w i l l not be t o e s t a b l i s h the f i n a n c e o f the g e n e r a l scheme on a permanent b a s i s , and exposes the general scheme t o t h e r i s k o f having t o remodel i t s from time t o time at c o m p a r a t i v e l y s h o r t 49. I n view o f these facts finances notice. I have come t o the c o n c l u s i o n the power t o form s p e c i a l schemes should be e n t i r e l y f o r the f u t u r e and a c l a u s e to t h i s e f f e c t new B i l l . inserted that withdrawn i n the axOiiiPTioi oi? o a a T A i f l 1 C L A S S E S OP WORKPEOPLE I H PERMANENT MPLOMEWT. 50. While the Unemployment Insurance Scheme c o v e r s tha manual workers ££50 a y e a r ) generally (and a l l non-manual workers earning up t o outside agriculture and p r i v a t e domestic servioe, there are c e r t a i n c l a s s e s of workpeople who a r e " e x c e p t e d " from the scheme on the ground p r i n c i p a l l y that their employment i s permanent. 51. The c h i e f classes c o v e r e d by such e x c e p t i o n s a r e : by the A c t . Exoeptsd d i r e c t l y Permanent C i v i l Servants. Members o f a P o l i c e Poroe. T e a c h e r s with Superannuation E x c e p t i o n by C e r t i f i c a t e Permanent Railway rights. o f the M i n i s t r y of labour. Servants. Permanent employees o f L o c a l A u t h o r i t i e s ( o t h e r than Poor l a w A u t h o r i t i e s and Asylum Authorities), Others ( c h i e f l y permanent employees o f P u b l i c U t i l i t y Companies). I t i s e s t i m a t e d that the t o t a l number i n a l l these croups i s . about 750,000 of whom 200,000 a r e permanent r a i l w a y s e r v a n t s and 55,000 l o c a l a u t h o r i t y employees. 52. I f the p r i n c i p l e t o be f o l l o w e d i s that a l l persons within tha i n s u r a b l e a r e a should c o n t r i b u t e e q u a l l y of whether or n o t they a r e l i k e l y exceptions c o n s t i t u t e t o draw b e n e f i t * these a s e r i o u s anomaly which, moreover, r e p r e s e n t s a heavy l o s s t o the Unemployment Pund, to be o b s e r v e d t h a t w h i l e irrespective It is t h e s e groups can be s e l e c t e d as b e i n g those i n which t h e p r o s p e c t o f permanent employment i s definite for exception, further sufficisntl t h e r e a r e a number o f other groups i n /which 'M0 which the permanence o f omployment i s in p r a c t i c e n e a r l y great, whilst as in most t r a d e s t h e r e a r e some i n d i v i d u a l s who are p r a c t i c a l l y assured o f permanent employment. These groups and i n d i v i d u a l s cannot "be brought w i t h i n the a r e a Of e x c e p t i o n s , but t o some e x t e n t any g r i e v a n c e at p r e s e n t by the p r o v i s i o n they may f o o l f o r t h e refund to them a t the aga o f 60. provision' for should be a b o l i s h e d . refunds It of is alleviated their contributions i s p r o p o s e d , however, c o n s i d e r a t i o n w h e t h e r , h a v i n g regard t o It that this i s worth the g r e a t e x t e n s i o n the b e n e f i t p r o v i s i o n now proposed and the consequent need securing a l l possible revenue, a l l strong P a r l i a m e n t a r y 53. m The p o i n t i s a d i f f i c u l t ought t o c o n s i d e r Ministry local seriously o f Labour c e r t i f i c a t e s authority in a l l cases... t h a t t h e r e would be l i k e l y opposition to I t must to be v a r y such a p r o p o s a l . one, but I am i n c l i n e d to think whether the groups "excepted by (principally railwayman and e m p l o y e e s ) , should n o t be brought i n t o The e f f e c t would be t o b r i n g a f u r t h e r insurance and t o i n c r e a s e for these e x c e p t i o n s should n o t be removed and c o n t r i b u t i o n s made p a y a b l e be p o i n t e d o u t , however, of 350,000 p e r s o n s the annual revenue lund ( a t p r e s e n t r a t e s o f c o n t r i b u t i o n ) as of insurance. into the Unemployment follows:!­ £ Employers. 758,000 iiimployed'. 672,000 Exchequer. 500,000 / 1,930,000 I f the Lxchequer c o n t r i b u t i o n were i n c r e a s e d to one t h i r d the whole., the t o t a l i n c r e a s e of annual revenue would be ££.,140,000*. (Intd.) Ministry o f Labour. Msrch. 1 0 t h , 1984. of i.a. * -APPENDIX, Suggested Scheme of Unemployment Benefit. The plan s u g g e s t e d i s t h a t t h e c o n d i t i o n s f o r benefit should be;... (1) a preliminary qualification of a small number of few c o n s i s t i n g of payment c o n t r i b u t i o n s during t h e past yearsj (2) broadly 5 the present conditions tion condition) ( o t h e r than o o n t r i b u ­ as a p p l y i n g t o covenanted benefit; and c i t h e r (3) a c r e d i t of contributions, e n t i t l i n g t i o n a t e number of weeks of b e n e f i t , to a propor­ up t o ( s a y ) 26 weeks as a maximum; or (4) satisfaction, through L o c a l Employment Committees, of s p e c i a l c o n d i t i o n s d e s i g n e d t o t e s t the genuineness of t h e c l a i m i n the absence of a c r e d i t of contributions,, 6, In the o r d i n a r y case of t h e worker who does not much from unemployment, would be no need t o f a l l I f a however, 5(1) s (2) suffer and ( 3 ) would a p p l y ; there back on 5 ( 4 ) . a worker s u f f e r e d from a good disal of unemploymsnt e i t h e r i n one s p e l l or i n s e v e r a l s p e l l s within a s h o r t space of t i m e , he would u l t i m a t e l y come under 5 ( 4 ) ; but he might s u b s e q u e n t l y r 6 q u e l i f y f o r 5 ( 3 ) by baying further contributionso 7. The s p e c i a l c o n d i t i o n s s u g g e s t e d under 5 ( 4 ) are t h a t applicant, must prove t h a t he (i) * w i l l n o r m a l l y seek h i s l i v e l i h o o d b y employment an i n s u r e d t r a d e ; the , . /(ID In (ii) can show that i n normal times employment s u i t e d to h i s c a p a c i t i e s would be likely to be a v a i l a b l e f o r him; (ill) has performed a reasonable amount of work during the l a s t ^t"wo/ y e a r s having regard to the o p p o r t u n i t i e s e x i s t i n g during that p e r i o d ) (iv) i s making every reasonable e f f o r t to obtain employment s u i t e d to h i s o a p a o i t i e a and i s w i l l i n g to aocept such employment. I t i s regarded as important that i t should r e s t s o l e l y with the M i n i s t e r to d e o i d e , on the reoommenda­ t i o n s of the Looal Employment Committees, whether these special conditions are s a t i s f i e d . If, however, the question i s whether the conditions under 5 ( 2 ) ere satisfied, Insurance the i3soision would be given by the Officer, with a r i g h t of appeal to the Court of and tho Umpire. Referees