SPC 201P, FACILITY SMART GRID INFORMATION MODEL
OCTOBER 6, 2011 CONFERENCE CALL/WEBINAR
MINUTES - DRAFT
NOTE: These minutes are not the official minutes until approved by SPC 201.
ACTION ITEMS
Updates to previous action items noted in red
OCTOBER 6, 2011
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ACTION
Document SPC201-082, posted on the SPC 201P ftp site,
contains the draft Definitions clause that was generated
from our process. Review this document and propose
changes by editing the shared Google Docs definitions
table.
Jacob to look at thermal generation in data centers and see
if there is a need for a new proposal to address this.
Evan, Marty, Steve Ray, Jerry (or someone from his RDT
group), Bill Cox, Allen, and Joel to set up weekly
meetings to identify classes and properties that are used in
multiple components in order to come up with a way for
them to be reused whiles still having a single location and
definition, and preserving the original design intent.
Allen Jones, Rich Morgan, Marty, Steve Ray, Steve
Montgomery, Mike Gibson, Evan and Chandra will meet
to discuss the concept of creating more abstract
representation of FSGIM classes should be undertaken and
if it can be applied to external models we are reusing.
RESPONSIBILITY
STATUS
All
Open
Jacob
Yackenovich
Open
Joel Bender
Open
Allen Jones
Open
AUGUST 31, 2011
ACTION
RESPONSIBILITY
An action item was assigned to Allen Jones to submit a ticket to
Jones
add a definition for base types and list source.
Send an email to RDT leads with a copy to Steve Bushby to
Jones
remind them of how to mark the references for the bibliographic
section for those that need to be manually inserted in the
standard. Allen will provide the tag value in the email for
insertion in the notes field of the model
MONTREAL MEETING JUNE 27 – 28, 2011
ACTION
RESPONSIBILITY
Create Remaining Manually Generated Sections
a. Conformance Requirements by July meeting
Grant Wichenko
grant making progress. Steve Busbhy will follow up with
Grant Wichenko on this item before the next meeting.
Nothing from Grant yet keep open
b. Develop a strategy for remaining blank parts of the draft std.
Bushby
This is mostly complete. We are still waiting on draft clauses
from another action item regarding Clause 6 and Clause 7.
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STATUS
Open
Complete
STATUS
Open
Ongoing
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15
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There is an open issue regarding how aggregation will be
handled which is also subject to the completion of a different
action item - leave open
c. Applying FSGIM to Real Facility Loads, Equipment and
Controls – description on model components and how it fits
into real world devices by TBD follow up with grant. Steve
Busbhy will follow up with Grant Wichenko on this item
before the next meeting. Leave open
a. Make sure that all packages and diagrams have names that
we actually want to have show up in the standard (redundant
names or renaming) by TBD lot of progress but leave
ongoing. Lots of progress has been made however in the
notes fields in descriptions of classes there are still some
instances where it is called a meter without the meaning of
physical meter as opposed to meter component or meter
class. This is complete for loads.
Not complete yet.
Finish cleaning up duplicate pieces of the model. Still pending
resolution of aggregation with loads including the new
information from oasis. This is gated by the EMIX model in order
to resolve these issues. Aggregation separate and has another AI.
Closed
Many classes still need descriptions by July 15 done for EM.
Think load and EM complete but keep ongoing
Still ongoing. Not sure what needs to be done to finish… closed
Many properties still need descriptions by July 15.
for EM some things that Abigail needs to look at. loads may be
done. Generator needs some work. Meters needs to be looked at
one more time. This requires notes on emissions profile and that
has not been completed yet. Not heard from Abigail yet. Another
AI for this #23. Close
Make sure that connector ends have names and descriptions
where appropriate by July 15. Progress made on loads, meters
still not done. EM may have one or two that remain, Done
Make sure that all properties and connectors have multiplicities
assigned where appropriate - by July 15. EM needs one more pass
. loads complete except for review and comments. Generators
work remains. Meters same as #11. No work by generators. EM
still needs to make the extra pass. Meters are finished.
There are places where “To Do” items have been added to
diagrams as Text or Notes. These need to be changed to “Issues”
so that they can be separated out in the draft standard. By July 15
EM done but needs to be checked. Loads done as a note – will be
changed. Meters good. generator – eliminated notes in text. Need
another pass to check on this. Allen to help jerry and give
feedback on what needs to be done. An action item was assigned
to Allen Jones to submit a ticket to add a definition for base types
and list source. May have one or two that are noted by tickets –
close
Insert bibliographic reference (Section 7 of draft) details in the
notes field for the reference package by July 15. EM not done yet.
Some were provided by Ken Wacks that need to be incorporated.
SB: need to get this in word file and include in text. Will sort out
offline . Jerry has the notes. Allen Jones will send an email to
RDT leads on what to do for those references that need to be
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Grant Wichenko
Open
RDTs
Ongoing
TBD
Closed
RDT leads
Closed
RDT leads
Closed
RDT leads
Complete
RDT leads
Ongoing
RDT model
leads
Closed
RDT leads
Ongoing.
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manually inserted in the model. Keep open for all RDT leads. A
process for doing this was set up by Allan Jones. RDT leads need
to go back to see if their pieces are completed - figure out if
references are properly identified. Allen sent email containing
instructions and will send it again to the original recipients.
Resolve the way to handle aggregation throughout the model.
Attribute to all things aggregating. The group has begun
meetings and is preparing a proposal for committee consideration.
Still ongoing. Waiting for a description of what has been
discussed at first meeting. Needs more time… keep open
Resolve a strategy for modeling thermal storage systems
discussion has not happened yet… need to have a meeting. Ruiz
will schedule a meeting. Two meetings were held on this topic.
Jerry Martocci is also involved now. The group thinks the
approach in the current draft of the model is correct. Jerry will
meet with loads team to finalize. Keep open
Resolve EM to generator integration issue - Integration of 61850
and EMIX in the Generator model. Change to EM model that
implements what was proposed. Want to defer discussion until
new EMIX is incorporated. Now have the EMIX model. Marty
to convene the meeting. Marty update – a meeting was held with
Bill Cox at Gridweek. This was followed by a group discussion
of two possible solutions using associations with the EM model
and other components. This issue needs another meeting to come
to closure. Keep open
Ensure uniformity of class drawing details level of detail. Too
early. Would like help from Evan. Need to fully resolve the
aggregation issues. Krishnan agreed to take the lead on this. No
progress but is tied to 20 above. Until that is resolved no progress
can be made.
Interface between loads and EM. Same stage as generator one.
Jerry will take the lead on this. Done after last call. The changes
were implemented
Including emissions information for loads (Bushby to call Abby)
Abby – more info on emissions Dave – predictive emissions?
Batteries - when acting as a load – how much does it emit… need
to determine how to handle this. touch base with John next week.
Describe each one of the attributes (Krishnan). Marty, Jerry and
Abigail will discuss this and report back to the committee at the
next meeting on whether it’s ok or if changes need to be made
what they are. Jerry will take the lead on this.
Jerry met with the group and came up with conclusion that there
is no need to add any emission information to the Load
Component. There was a discussion about thermal and other
effects from loads and whether or not these effects constitute
emissions that should be represented in the FSGIM. There was
reluctance to include these kinds of details in the FSGIM. It was
determined that the Meter Component that meets the originally
identified need for batteries.
Data centers were discussed as a special case that might need
attention. Jacob was given an action item to review use cases that
apply to data centers and to report back to the committee with a
proposal to fill any gaps in the model that he determines may
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Evan Wallace
Ongoing
John Ruiz, Dave
Robin and
Sharon Dinges
Open
Bill, Marty,
Chandra and
Evan
Open
Krishnan Gowri
and Evan
Open
EM and Loads
RDT leads
Closed
Abigail Daiken,
John Ruiz
Closed
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exist (Action Item #2). Close this action item.
Create weather information portion of the model. Progress made
but work remains. The group shall have something to present to
the committee by September 19, 2011. Closed. Details to be
presented later in agenda.
MARCH 22 – 23, 2011
ISSUES TO BE RESOLVED
Resolve how we manage copyright issues with respect to the
model components imported or derived from other work
4/11 Update: Allan Jones and Steve Bushby met with Steve
Comstock and showed the way materials are used and came up
with a procedure to move forward. On-going
5/9 Update: Ongoing
6/26 Update: Ongoing
Update – agreement with everyone except IEC still in discussions
–ongoing
10/6 Update: Ongoing until done
Marty Burns,
Dave Holmberg
and EM team
ASSIGNED
STATUS
Bushby
Ongoing
FUTURE MEETINGS/CONFERENCE CALLS
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TBD November and December
January 23-24, Chicago, IL (Reminder make room reservations if you have not done so)
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Closed
1.
Welcome and Review of Agenda
The conference call/webinar for SPC 201P, Facility Smart Grid Information Model, was called to order at
approximately 1:05 pm ET on Thursday October 6, 2011. This call was recorded for those unable to
participate. The following SPC 201 members, guests and staff participated:
August 31,
2011
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SPC 201P Voting Members
1
General
Steve Busby, Chair
2
UTIL
Steve Kennedy, Co-Chair
3
C/I/IP
Sharon Dinges, Co-Chair
4
C/I/IP
Robert Hick, Co-Chair
Absent
5
A/RA/CEP
Robert Alvord
Absent
6
A/RA/CEP
Chandrashekhar Appanna
7
C/I/IP
Pete Baselici
8
A/RA/CEP
Timothy Beight
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9
CR/C/I
Joel Bender

10
CR/C/I
Michael Coop
Absent
11
CR/C/I
Abigail Daken
Absent
12
A/RA/CEP
Jonathan Douglas
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13
A/RA/CEP
Amr Gado
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14
General
Mike Gibson
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15
UTIL
Matthew Gillmore
16
General
Krishnan Gowri
17
A/RA/CEP
Jason Hanna
Absent
18
CR/C/I
Richard Harwell
Absent
19
CR/C/I
Howard Holmes
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20
UTIL
Joseph Hughes
Absent
21
A/RA/CEP
Christopher Johnson
Absent
22
C/I/IP
Allen Jones
23
CR/C/I
Christopher Kotting
Absent
24
General
Chuck McParland
Absent
25
C/I/IP
Richard Morgan

26
General
John Nunneley
Absent
27
C/I/IP
Robert Old
28
UTIL
David Pospisil
Absent
29
CR/C/I
Bin Qiu
Absent
30
UTIL
Devin Rauss
31
General
Steven Ray
32
A/RA/CEP
Tobin Richardson
33
General
Jeremy Roberts
34
C/I/IP
David Robin
Absent
35
UTIL
Steve Rosenstock
Absent
36
C/I/IP
John Ruiz
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

Absent
Absent
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


Absent
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
5
37
A/RA/CEP
Chanti Sourignavong
Absent
38
A/RA/CEP
Don Sturek
39
C/I/IP
John Teeter
Absent
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40
A/RA/CEP
Natarajan Venkatakrishnan
41
General
Kenneth Wacks
42
UTIL
Eric Winkler
43
General
Jacob Yackenovich
44
C/I/IP
Scott Ziegenfus
Absent
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Absent
Total Voting Members on Committee
44
Total Voting Members Present
22
Quorum (23+)?
NO
Non-Voting Members
1
A/RA/CEP
Roger Boydstun
Absent
2
C/I/IP
Jim Butler
Absent
3
General
Gregory Dobbs
Absent
4
A/RA/CEP
Wayne Guelfo
5
A/RA/CEP
David Kaufman
Absent
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6
Consultant
Frances Cleveland
Absent
Total Voting and Non-Voting Members on Committee
Total Voting and Non-Voting Members Present
23
Liaisons
1
ASHRAE
Susan LeBlanc
2
NEMA
Jim Lewis
3
SPLS Liaison
Steve Bruning
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Absent
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Guests
1
Mark Ames
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2
Steve Barge
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3
Ken Belding
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4
Marty Burns
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5
Bill Cox

6
David Holmberg
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7
JCI
Jerry Martocci
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8
NEMA
Steve Molitor
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9
Steve Montgomery
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10
Farhad Omar
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11
Bob Schloss
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12
Evan Wallace
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Total Liaisons and Guests Present
14
Total Participants
37
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2. Chair’s Report
Chair Bushby made several announcements:
 The OASIS EMIX standard is out for public review
 There is a PAP 17 call on 11/2 at 1:30 pm and everyone is welcome. The four main components
of the 201 model are being reviewed and Steve would like one on the Energy Manager
component. Steve will discuss this with Krishnan offline.
 There is growing international interest in the SPC 201P work and the development of an
international standard with a similar scope. ISO/TC 205 Building Environment Design has
adopted a preliminary new work item proposal for this purpose. In order to facilitate international
acceptance of Standard 201, this committee can take advantage of the International
Organizational Liaison process to invite international participation in our activities. The chair is
exploring this option as a way to interact with relevant European standardization activities.
 There is working being done on the definitions portion of the standard. Document SPC201-082 is
posted on the 201 FTP site. Everyone was requested to review the document to ensure the
definitions are clear. Edits can be made through changes to the Google Docs table. – Action Item
#1.
 Upcoming SPC 201P meetings will occur monthly until the public review draft is ready. A
special meeting will also occur to cover the weather information model. Please respond to the
Doodle polls.
3. Review/Approval of Minutes
With no quorum present, the minutes for the July and August 2011 webinar meetings were not
presented for approval. A call for additions and corrections to these minutes was made with none
received.
4. Status of Action Items
See action items above for updates noted in red.
5. Access and commenting on current working draft
A brief discussion was held on issues regarding accessing and commenting on the current working
draft. Evan noted there are problems with the system in that the reference to line numbers are not
helpful for responding to comments and that real summaries of the issues are needed. The title field of
the ticket needs to be more descriptive. Joel and Evan are to discuss this offline. Another issue raised
is that a thread of comments is not emailed together. It was agreed that this would be looked at.
6. Model Validation using Use Cases
Marty Burns presented the following Use Case Validation against Models. Chair Bushby clarified
that everyone should use the updated version of the use cases for mappings to validate the model.
Use Case Validation
against Models 20110831.ppt
7. Use Case formatting/ Cleanup Status
Jerry Martocci reported that this will be completed by the next conference call.
8. Rapid Development Team Reports
Loads – Jerry Martocci reported that the Loads section received a lot of tickets with approximately
10 left to be resolved. Pricing issues were thought to be covered in the EMIX model, which needs to
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be mapped to the FSGIM model. This led to a more general discussion about how to manage reuse of
model elements while still having their definitions is a single place.
Action Item #3: Evan, Marty, Steve Ray, Jerry (or someone from his RDT group), Bill Cox, Allen,
and Joel to set up weekly meetings to identify classes and properties that are used in multiple
components in order to come up with a way for them to be reused whiles still having a single location
and definition, and preserving the original design intent.
Energy Manager – Krishnan Gowri reported that there are about 30 – 50 tickets still open that will
be addressed by the next call. A suggestion was made to combine the task with the new loads group
above to use the same time to discuss these issues. It was a agreed that this would be Evan’s choice.
Generator – John Ruiz reported that the group met but has made no substantive changes to the
model. Marty Burns reported on open items and that they completed the first model and resolved all
tickets except definitions in glossary. Once the task is done on associations they will be able to
address information elements and determine if anything is missing. The work is close to being
complete. Thermal modeling activity may require more attributes. The team discussed socializing
with other teams, which has not been done yet, but will be handled one on one with other teams.
Meter – Allen Jones reported that the team has under a dozen open tickets and is still trying to
resolve some issues but finding the time to do this is an issue.
9. Reconciling Differences in Modeling Power
Allen Jones presented on the topic of rethinking some of the basic FSGIM classes using power as an
example and the advantages of having a unified representation of power. With the meeting in
overtime, it was agreed that there was enough interest in pursuing this topic further. A group of
volunteers including Allen, Rich Morgan, Marty, Steve Ray, Steve Montgomery, Mike Gibson, Evan
and Chandra will meet to discuss this and determine if this concept can be applied elsewhere. Action
Item #4.
SPC201-083
Abstract FSGIM Classes.pptx
10. New Business
Timing for the next draft – TBD.
11. Closing Items and Next Steps
Chair Bushby thanked everyone for staying beyond the meeting time..
12. Adjournment
The conference call/webinar adjourned at 3:50 pm ET.
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