MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
CONFIRMED MINUTES
MARCH 2-5, 2015
BERLIN, GERMANY
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation
from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, MARCH 2 to THURSDAY, MARCH 5
1.0
OPENING COMMENTS – CLOSED/OPEN
1.1
Call to Order / Quorum Check
The Materials Testing Laboratories Task Group (MTL) was called to order at (9:00) a.m., 02-Mar2015.
It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion
of the meeting.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME
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David
Pascal
Richard
Thomas
Russ
David
Arielle
Georges
Chris
Doug
James
Dan
Jason
Jeff
Scott
Muriel
Frank
Jennifer
Alan
Brad
Amanda
Norberto
Christian
Fabrice
Barry
Gary
Dongyu
Huiqing
COMPANY NAME
Bale
Blondet
Blyth
Brendel
Cole
Cordova
Corne
Coste
Davison
Deaton
Foster
Graves
Jolly
Lott
Maitland
Malhomme
Mariot
McKeegan
Paneccasio
Richwine
Rickman
Roiz-Lafuente
Schwaminger
Trebeden
Ward
Winters
Yang
Zhang
Pratt & Whitney
Airbus
Rolls-Royce
MTU Aero Engines AG
Northrop Grumman Corporation
Rockwell Collins
Spirit AeroSystems, Inc.
SAFRAN Group
Spirit AeroSystems, Inc.
GE Aviation
Honeywell Aerospace
Goodrich (UTAS)
Cessna Aircraft Company
The Boeing Company
Goodrich (UTAS)
Airbus
Triumph Group
Cessna Aircraft Company
Pratt & Whitney
Raytheon Co.
Raytheon Co.
Airbus Defence & Space
MTU Aero Engines AG
Airbus Helicopters
Rolls-Royce
Northrop Grumman Corporation
COMAC
COMAC
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME
COMPANY NAME
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
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Olgo
Antoenko
Michael
Pedro Javier
Assing
Astola Gonzalez
Lei
Umberto
Corwyn
Gilbert
Massimo
Eric
Matthew
Julian
Vitaly
Bao
Baratta
Berger
Bonnaire
Capriolo
Chabault
ChamberlainWebber
Corato
Davidoff
Niall
Chris
David
Thomas
Sven
Robert
Bryan
Chris
Christoph
Ilka
Donald
Steven
Jens
Koray
Tamas
Gregory
Ralph
Roger
Sharon
Annette
Owen
Bob
Aysin
Martin
Justin
Peter
Peter
David
Derek
Birgit
Dodds
Downs
Fluck
Fox
Hageman
Haldane
Hall
Harwood
Henkel
Hildebrand
Huffman
Keck
Kiehn
Kiling
Kovats
Lobosky
Mast
Ng
Norton
O'Connell
O'Grady
Olevson
Ozkan
Pojer
Riebesel
Schmidt
Scrimshire
Serbousek
Sicotte
Skrotzki
Simon
Tugba
Jeff
Jason
Sergey
Tournebize
Uyar
Viney
Wright
Zimin
PRI Staff Present
Robert
Hoeth
Kamensk-Uralsky Metallurgical Works
KUMZ
BK Werkstoffechnik
TITANIA, Ensatos y Proyectos
Industriales S.L.
National Analysis Center - Iron & Steel
Bytest SRL
Exova
ECCI
Bytest SRL
Bureau Veritas Laboratories
Timet UK Ltd
Exova
Kamensk-Uralsky Metallurgical Works
KUMZ
Exova (UK) Limited
Instron Calibration Laboratory
Haynes International, Inc.
SGS Institut Fresenius GmbH
BK Werkstoffechnik
Alcoa
NSL Analytical Services Inc.
Exova
AMAG Rolling
BK Werkstoffechnik
Lisi Aerospace
Carpenter Technology Corp.
Otto Fuchs KG
TEI-Tusas
Alcoa Howmet
Stork Materials Testing & Inspection
VDM Metals
Sulzer Metco (Canada) Inc.
Atlas Testing Labs
Haynes International
Exova
Element
TEI-TUSAS
Letov Letecká Výroba s.r.o.
Element Materials Technology
SGS Institut Fresenius GmbH
IncoTest
Olympic Scientific Inc.
Dirats Laboratories
Federal Institute for Materials Research
and Testing
Aubert & Duval
Turkish Aerospace Industries
Metcut Research Associates Inc.
Metals Technology Inc.
Kamensk-Uralsky Metallurgical Works
KUMZ
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
Jim
Scott
Kevin
1.2
Lewis
Klavon
Wetzel
Safety Information – CLOSED/OPEN
Fire Exits and how to vacate the building was reviewed. Attendees were requested to notify PRI
Staff of any emergencies.
1.3
Review Code of Ethics and Meeting Conduct – CLOSED/OPEN
Code of Ethics, Antitrust and meeting conduct was reviewed with the meeting rules and meeting
voting protocol was also reviewed.
1.4
Review Antitrust Video – CLOSED/OPEN
The Antitrust Video was presented.
1.5
Review Agenda – CLOSED/OPEN
The agenda was reviewed and agreed upon without modification.
1.6
All presentations from the meeting are posted in www.eAuditNet.com under Resources → Public
Documents → Materials Testing Laboratories → Nadcap Meeting Presentations → March
2015.Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes – OPEN
The minutes from October 2014 were approved with an amendment to add section 1.5 which is to
document the approval of the June 2014 minutes.
Motion made and seconded to approve the amended October 2014 minutes. Motion Passed.
2.0
REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS – CLOSED
The Metrics tab on the eAuditNet Dashboard and the t-frm-07s for all reviewers were presented.
All current delegated reviewers (Kevin Wetzel, Rob Hoeth, Jim Lewis, and Bob Lizewski) continue
to meet the requirements defined in NOP-003. After review of all comments addressed in
t-frm-07s, there were no issues that required additional actions. All reviewers maintained their
delegation status.
3.0
AUDITOR CONSISTENCY (NOP-012) – CLOSED
A presentation on auditor consistency based on question 15 of the Supplier Feedback was
presented. The question in the feedback is, “Was the auditor consistent in their application of
requirements as compared to previous audits?” All comments (14) were discussed for this
question when it was marked as “No” by the supplier. No immediate action was defined by the
Task Group. The Task Group will monitor the effectiveness of the revised Audit Criteria and Audit
Handbook supplements.
Specific concerns were discussed on a comment from one audit which dealt with consistent
interpretation of DIN/EN/ISO test standards and how the Audit Criteria address European testing
requirements. The question was is there a need to ensure all specifications are reviewed, and if
so, how should this be tracked. The Task Group is to determine if a subscriber matrix is needed
to cover the testing requirements of all standards. Also, global standards will be incorporated in
the Auditor Conference and additions will be made to the Audit Handbook as needed for
standards which are not currently covered by the checklists.
ACTION ITEM: PRI staff to send an email requesting Subscriber participation on a team
addressing potential review of all standards during an audit. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2015)
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
ACTION ITEM: Task Group Subscribers to form a team to determine if there is a need to ensure all
specifications are reviewed/observed, ASTM, DIN, EN, and ISO and if so how this should be
accomplished. (Due Date: 22-Jun-2015)
A Subscriber Audit Observation was reviewed which was the only observation since the October
meeting. There were no concerns.
MTL Auditor Consistency Data and Top 10 NCR report was presented and there were no
concerns.
Amanda Rickman reported on the 19-Feb-2015 oversight audit conference call regarding auditor
consistency and NOP-012 compliance. During this call, the MTL Task Group decided they do not
require a separate t-frm-01 appendix.
4.0
MATTERS OF ACCREDITATION – CLOSED
Risk Mitigation and issues with following the process were discussed. The following best
practices were discussed on how teams should be formed with the following priority.
Volunteers
Subscribers who the Supplier has identified on their List of Customers
TAG Subscribers in the area of the NCRs
Random Selection
Additionally, the number of Subscribers should be based on the number of NCRs.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel/Rob Hoeth to add to NTGOP-001/OP 1116 Appendix MTL the method
of forming the Risk Mitigation team with the following priority: Volunteers; Subscribers who the
Supplier has identified on their List of Customers; TAG Subscribers in the area of the NCRs;
Random selection. Additionally, the number of Subscribers should be based on the number of
NCRs. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2015)
The Risk Mitigation progress for the following audits was debriefed
Audit No. 153725 – Process completed
Audit No. 158211 – In Process
Audit No. 155962 – Completed
Audit No.: 163134 – Suspended due to delinquency and subsequently appealed. The appeal
#2015-006 was discussed for whether the supplier would be able to post an acceptable response
to the remaining findings and close the NCRs as stated in the appeal.
Motion made by Jennifer McKeegan – Cessna, to deny the appeal of audit #163134 Risk
Mitigation Suspension; the NCR’s would not be ready for closure based on sample review of
findings posted in eAuditNet prior to suspension. In addition, supplier has only responded to 15 of
the 35 NCR’s before reaching the delinquency limit. Motion Seconded. Motion passed – Appeal
#2015-006 denied.
Review of NOP-011 Failure Criteria data from the previous year was presented. (See section 10
for further details)
5.0
REVIEW MEMBERSHIP STATUS – OPEN
Compliance with Voting Requirements (Participation)
Voting Member responsibilities and adherence, meeting attendance, and ballot participation were
reviewed.
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
Supplier Members not meeting Voting Membership requirements were reviewed:
Stephen Greimers of VDM Metals has been removed by the Chairperson due to Mr. Greimers’
change in position within the company
Siobhan Alekna of SPS Technologies has been removed by the Chairperson due to no longer
being with the company
Ben Ransom of RTI Advanced Forming has been approved by the Chairperson to be maintained
as a Voting Member. (He was present at previous meeting but did not sign the MTL Sign in
Sheet.)
New Voting Member Approval
Subscriber Members:
Barry Ward of Rolls-Royce was proposed as a Subscriber Voting Member.
Motion made and seconded to accept Barry Ward as a Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber
meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed. Voting Member
confirmed by the Chairperson.
Huiqing Zhang of COMAC was proposed as a Subscriber Voting Member.
Motion made and seconded to accept Huiqing Zhang as a Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber
meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed. Voting Member
confirmed by the Chairperson.
Supplier Members:
Boyko Kirilov of Alcoa Global Fasteners was proposed as a Supplier Voting Member.
Motion made and seconded to accept Boyko Kirilov as a Supplier Voting Member. Motion
Passed. Voting Member confirmed by the Chairperson.
Jens Kiehn of Otto Fuchs was proposed as a Supplier Voting Member.
Motion made and seconded to accept Jens Kiehn as a Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed.
Voting Member confirmed by the Chairperson.
Umberto Baratta of Bytest was proposed as a Supplier Voting Member and for Massimo Capriolo
to become an Alternate Voting Member (ASVM).
Motion made and seconded to accept Umberto Baratta as a Supplier Voting Member and for
Massimo Capriolo to become an ASVM. Motion Passed. Umberto Baratta Voting Membership
confirmed by the Chairperson and Massimo Capriolo to become an ASVM also confirmed.
Motion made and seconded to accept Jason Wright’s continued Supplier Voting Member status
for Metals Technologies (previously a Voting Member with Atlas Testing). Motion Passed. Voting
Member confirmed by the Chairperson.
Deena Crossmore of IMR Test Labs acknowledged Jason Wright is to have full proxy for IMR at
this meeting.
6.0
NADCAP TUTORIAL – OPEN
An MTL Task Group Tutorial was presented. No further discussion followed.
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
Bryan Hall gave a brief presentation concerning the Supplier Support Committee (SSC). This was
an effort to increase MTL Supplier attendance at the SSC meeting scheduled for 03-March-2015.
For complete details of the meeting, see the SSC Minutes posted on www.p-r-i.org.
The new Nadcap document structure was presented. The new document structure is comprised
of PD 1100 and 23 supporting Operating Procedures all under NMC control. This transition will
occur in two phases. Phase 1 will allow the new structure to become operational without making
any changes to existing requirements. Phase 2 will comprise a systematic approach to reviewing
and revising each new document one at a time. Phase 2 will be the opportunity to change
requirements, address clarity, and add or remove requirements.
Task Group Document Balloting was discussed emphasizing the issue with too many individuals
waiving during a ballot causing an invalid ballot on checklists that have a limited number of voting
members with expertise in specific technology areas. The ability to perform a high level review for
flow and format and accepting the ballot with a comment that the review was limited is
appropriate as opposed to the use of a waive which should only be used to abstain from the
ballot.
A request was made if a seven (7) day warning email can be sent out to the Voting Members if a
current ballot has not made the minimum requirements to be valid at that point.
ACTION ITEM: Jenn Kornrumpf to send 7 day warning email to the Voting Members if a current
ballot has not made the minimum requirements of participation to be a valid ballot. (Due Date: 31Mar-2015)
7.0
ACTIVITY REPORTS – OPEN
Amanda Rickman provided a summary of the previous meeting feedback. From the limited
feedback provided, the MTL meetings appear to continue to improve.
Between Meeting Activity:
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AC7101/11C Balloted
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AC7101/3D ballot comment resolution teleconferences
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Three new Auditors contracted
Checklist Status:
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AC7101/1F Released (06/2014)
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AC7101/2D Released (12/2014)
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AC7101/3D Affirmation ballot closed. Vote on ballot comment resolution developed
during teleconferences and develop handbook guidance at this meeting
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AC7101/4E Released (08/2014)
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AC7101/5D Released (12/2014)
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AC7101/6D Checklist revisions to begin at this meeting
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AC7101/7D Checklist revisions to begin at this meeting
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AC7101/8B Balloted for Obsolescence
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AC7101/9C to be discussed at June 2015 meeting in Montreal.
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
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AC7101/11C Letter Ballot closed. Ballot Comment resolution at this meeting
Industry Standard Update:
The ASTM E01 Committee is continuing to work on a Spark-AES method for nickel alloys and
Titanium alloys. The expectation is that both methods will be completed in 2015. The Guide for
the Production of Reference Materials has been balloted and is getting closer to being completed.
A new practice is underway on the utilization of commercially prepared reference materials. They
are also discussing changes in the certification requirements of combustion/fusion reference
materials.
The ASTM E08 Committee (Fatigue and Fracture) current revision activity is for E466 (Load
control fatigue). Some of the E08-05 subcommittee members do not feel that alignment per
E1012 is adequate for high cycle fatigue (load control) testing. Proposals have included some
things that it is felt that Nadcap approved labs will likely vote on negatively. The current effort to
get E466 approved before it reaches it’s time limit expiration has been stymied. It is expected to
finally pass this year, but challenges to the labs doing E466 testing and claiming E1012 as their
alignment proof will increase. There are currently significant differences of opinion.
The fatigue round robin is about 60% complete for both E466 (load control) and E606 (strain
control) using Ti 6-4, Al 6061 T6, and API 5X steel. Many Nadcap approved labs are participating,
but there may be a need for more, especially for strain control testing of the aluminum and steel
materials.
The ASTM E28 Committee (Mechanical test) has revisions to E8 and E21 underway currently.
The main topics are to standardize terms (e.g. the difference between gauge section and reduced
section) and to make E21 more like E8 in the way it calls out elongation and reduction in area.
The ASTM E04 Committee only significant change is another ballot on ASTM E384.
The next ASTM meeting is in Anaheim, CA on May 18th - 20th, 2015.
TAG Activity:
The TAG function was reviewed and the TAG Roster was updated during the review of the
current membership. Don Huffman has volunteered to be the Chair of the /11 TAG.
ACTION ITEM: Bryan Hall to solicit current AC7101/11 revision group to form /11 TAG. (Due Date:
22-Jun-2015)
TAG 1 Had one unresolved question which was brought to the meeting for resolution.
Current Handbook Guidance states: “If the lab procedure states a certain number of days within
which customers to be contacted, auditor is to cross-check with, e.g. three customer requirement
documents as to whether this is acceptable. For instance, Boeing requires reporting within three
working days.”
Proposed Guidance as follows was accepted: Add sentence - “If the procedure is anything other
than 3 days, the auditor is to look for the evidence of the customer document with the
requirement.” Errors in testing definition must note that this pertains only to after a test report has
been released.
Handbook Activity:
Derek Sicotte provided a review of handbook changes. The last Handbook revision was released
December 2014.
Audit Duration:
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
Jennifer McKeegan reported on the Audit Checklist length form which is used to track time spent
during each audit. Concerns were discussed on pre-audit time spent and if there would be value
in capturing this, but this was deemed outside the scope of this team’s responsibility.
Motion made by Jennifer McKeegan to Request each auditor and supplier fill out an audit grading
form to evaluate the time being spent each day on each checklist until the Pittsburgh October
2015 meeting. It will be decided as a TG if the form continues past the October 2015 meeting.
Motion seconded. Motion Passed.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to issue an Open Auditor Advisory on the use of the Audit Grading
Form. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2015)
MTL Audit Reviewers Expectation:
Dan Graves reported that the expectations should be ready to be presented in the Pittsburgh
2015 meeting.
8.0
MTL TASK GROUP SUBSCRIBERS AND NMC SUBSCRIBERS – CLOSED
Frank Mariot provided a brief report on where MTL is currently in meeting the Checklist Content
requirements of NOP 002. MTL is now past the due date for compliance and must either
demonstrate compliance or remove the checklist items currently marked for obsolescence
(double daggers). After discussion, Frank stated, if a requirement is present in an industry
standard or if it is a single subscriber requirement that is agreed to by the group, it can remain in
the checklist.
Amanda Rickman stated that identifying items for obsolescence was too aggressive and
compliance has been moving forward with other checklists. The AC7101/1 was the first checklist
revised and had the largest issue with compliance.
The progress was presented on the analysis for AC7101/1, AC7101/3, and AC7101/4, and of all
criteria in these checklists, only one item in AC7101/4 could not be tied to a specific requirement.
The full analysis on all checklist criteria is expected to be completed by the June 2015 meeting in
Montreal.
Motion made by Gary Winters to remove the double daggers from in front of all questions with the
exception of AC7101/4 6.5.2 which will be removed due to lack of an industry standard or at least
one reference in a subscriber specification. Motion Seconded. Motion Passed.
The double dagger identification will be removed by editorial change to the checklists by the June
2015 meeting in Montreal. AC7101/4 will require a formal ballot to the Task Group and NMC for
removal of paragraph 6.5.2.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to make editorial changed to AC7101/1, AC7101/3, and AC7101/4.
(Due Date: 31-Mar-2015)
ACTION ITEM: PRI Staff to ballot AC7101/4 with the removal of paragraph 6.5.2. (Due Date: 31-Mar2015)
9.0
AC7101/3 & AC7101/6 BREAKOUT SESSIONS – OPEN
Break out working session groups formed as follows:
AC7101/3 comments were resolved.
AC7101/6 NOP-002 compliance on checklist was analyzed
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
10.0
TASK GROUP ISSUES – OPEN
A review of data from the previous year’s audits was presented to develop NOP-011 Mode B
Failure Criteria.
Motion made by Bob Olevson to maintain current failure criteria. Motion Seconded. Motion
Passed.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to notify NOP-011 Document owner of the Task Group decision to
maintain current MTL Mode B Failure Criteria. (Due Date: 13-Mar-2015)
RAIL Item 23, for TAGs to define Test Codes for all accredited methods, progress was discussed.
To date, only feedback was received for AC7101/4 and AC7101/7. AC7101/6 test codes will be
defined during the current revision. AC7101/5 only has 3 codes that are already defined.
AC7101/2 and AC7101/3 still need to respond.
RAIL Item 17, for what records are required to address Audit Criteria, was reviewed. James
Foster will follow up with Tim Myers, the lead of this Sub-Team, to determine the progress with
the TAG Chairs. TAG Chairs are to report out in Montreal.
RAIL Item 25, for Bryan Hall to create language for the TAGs to collect revision suggestions and
consider a checklist revision every other year for review at the March 2015 Nadcap, resulted in a
proposal.
Motion made by Bryan Hall to have the TAG chairs keep track of all checklist revision
suggestions, and to propose to the TAG two years after checklist revision the possibility of
another revision. If not enough content exists to justify the revision, it will be tabled for a year.
Otherwise, a proposed revision is readied for ballot. Motion seconded. Motion Passed.
ACTION ITEM: Bryan Hall to create a template to collect revision suggestions and standardized
report out to the Task Group. Templates will be sent to Task Group Chair and distributed to the
TAG Chairs. (Due Date: 17-Apr-2015)
Motion made by Amanda Rickman to add to existing Audit Handbook Guidance “Topics for TAG
support may include: Clarification of audit criteria before or after an audit (TAGs should not be
used to resolve issues anytime between a supplier and an auditor during an audit.” and “TAG
interpretation shall not be used during NCR closure.”
ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to add to existing Audit Handbook Guidance “Topics for TAG
support may include: Clarification of audit criteria before or after an audit (TAGs should not be
used to resolve issues anytime between a supplier and an auditor during an audit.” and “TAG
interpretation shall not be used during NCR closure.” (Due Date: 17-Apr-2015)
Report out of the closed meeting with NMC for a way forward to meet NOP 002 requirements was
provided. See section 8.0 for further details.
11.0
CONTINUATION OF BREAKOUT SESSIONS – OPEN
Individual checklist breakout sessions were continued.
12.0
AC7101/7 & AC7101/11 BREAKOUT SESSIONS – OPEN
Individual checklist breakout sessions were continued.
13.0
PT DISCUSSION– OPEN
A structured discussion of questions pertinent to PT and IRR was held.
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
Discussion PT IRR
Berlin w AGS comments.pptx
Subscribers recognized that the current IRR requirements in AC7101/1 do not necessarily serve
all situations well, and there was support from both Suppliers and Subscribers (by show of hands)
to open a sub-team to review IRR expectations.
ACTION ITEM: IRR/PT TAG Chair to solicit participation in a Sub Team to define IRR expectations
for all methods. (Due Date: 15-Jun-2015)
14.0
RETEST REPRESENTATIVE AND REPLACEMENT TEST DEFINITIONS – OPEN
No Action taken; there was no support from the MTL Task Group Members present at the
meeting to pursue this agenda item.
15.0
CONTINUED BREAKOUT SESSIONS– OPEN
Individual checklist breakout sessions were continued.
16.0
REPORT OUT OF WORKING SESSIONS – OPEN
AC7101/3 report out – All comments were resolved. Chair and PRI Staff to review document
changes to see if they are considered technical or editorial to determine a path forward.
ACTION ITEM: Chair and PRI Staff to review document changes to AC7101/3 to see if they are
considered technical or editorial to determine path forward. (Due Date: 3-Apr-2015)
AC7101/11 report out – All comments addressed except 1 covering rivet testing. See section 17.0
for further details.
AC7101/6 report out – The checklist is about 2/3 complete with the analysis for NOP-002
Compliance. This will be completed prior to the June 2015 meeting in Montreal.
AC7101/7 report out – The review is complete and the excel guidance sheet needs completed to
demonstrate NOP-002 compliance.
Kay Fisher, AC7101/1 TAG Chair, has requested comment on the Certificate of Test, Test Report
definition in the Handbook. Discussion on the distinction between the two definitions could not be
resolved and Quality Systems use the word interchangeably. See section 17.0 for further details.
17.0
TASK GROUP ISSUES – OPEN
In the report out for AC7101/11 comment resolution, all comments were addressed except 1
covering rivet testing.
Motion made to deal with rivet testing on next revision of AC7101/11. Motion Seconded. Motion
Passed.
Discussion on the distinction between Certificate of Test, Test Report discussion continued and
how the two are used interchangeably.
Motion made by Bryan Hall to add to the Handbook guidance, “if required” to end of definition of
Certificate of Test, Test Report and to delete the definition of Test Report (w/o disposition).
Motion Seconded. Motion Passed.
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to add to the Handbook guidance, “if required” to end of definition of
Certificate of Test, Test Report and to delete the definition of Test Report (w/o disposition) (Due
Date: 17-Apr-2015)
Motion made by Bryan Hall to move the PT / IRR charts / tables / requirements from AC7101/1 to
the other ACs as an editorial change, so that individual checklist TAGs can assume responsibility
for PT / IRR requirements as it pertains to each checklist. Motion seconded. Motion Failed.
18.0
SMALL GROUP SESSION – OPEN
Individual checklist breakout sessions were continued.
19.0
NADCAP MEETING REPORTS – OPEN
Bryan Hall reported on the SSC meeting. For complete details of the meeting, see the SSC
Minutes posted on www.p-r-i.org.
Amanda Rickman reported on the Planning & Ops meeting. Specific Task Groups provided
summaries of their health and issues. The Risk Mitigation process was a common issue among
most Task Groups. NMC will provide guidance on procedural intent and a direction going forward
with the Risk Mitigation process.
20.0
MTL PROGRAM STATUS – OPEN
Kevin Wetzel presented a review of the health of the MTL Task Group via the Dashboard in
eAuditNet. The NMC metrics were reviewed by the Task Group. No action was required.
Kevin Wetzel presented a review of Auditor Capacity. Capacity can support the current audit
requirements. MTL is always looking for additional Auditor candidates.
21.0
MEETING WRAP-UP – OPEN
Bryan Hall solicited for a new SSC representative. Steve Keck volunteered to fulfil the position
until the June 2015 meeting in Montreal.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to solicit for new SSC representative. (Due Date: 17-Apr-2015)
Jennifer McKeegan volunteered to take over the lead for the Auditor Consistency Sub Team to
replace Gary Winters.
ACTION ITEM: Rob Hoeth to gather current data as was originally presented in Dallas to the
Auditor Consistency Team. (Due Date: 30-Apr-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Rob Hoeth to put together a +/- tracking sheet to record the number of NCRs
written on the current audit for a specific company compared to the number of NCRs from the
previous based on audit days. (Due Date: 17-Jun-2015)
Motion made by Bryan Hall to add a note at the beginning of AC7101/1 Appendix B that the
content and maintenance of this section are the responsibility of the PT/IRR TAG. Motion
seconded. Motion passed.
ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to add a note at the beginning of AC7101/1 Appendix B that the
content and maintenance of this section are the responsibility of the PT/IRR TAG. (Due Date: 31Mar-2015)
ADJOURNMENT – 5-March-2015 – Meeting was adjourned at (5:00) p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: (Rob Hoeth) (rhoeth@p-r-i.org)
MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIES
MARCH 2015
CONFIRMED
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Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select
one)
YES* ☒ NO ☐
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring revision:
Who is responsible:
NTGOP-001/OP 1114 Appendix
Kevin Wetzel/Rob Hoeth
MTL
Due date:
31-Mar-2015