Mike Riddle
Topics
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What the Bible teaches about time
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The Bible and the Big Bang
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The Bible, Big Bang and Logic
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Science and the Big Bang
What Is the Big Bang?
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The big bang is a secular story about
how the universe came into existence.
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The big bang presupposes billions of
years.
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The big bang is a singularity.
A hypothetical point in space and time
when the universe (all matter) was
infinitely compressed.
The Question At Hand
Did God use the big bang as
part of His creation process?
The issue of time and the word “day”
GENESIS 1
the first day.
the second day.
the third day. ALWAYS
“DAY” WITH NUMBER
Means
an
the fourth day.
410 times
ORDINARY
(in singular and plural)
the fifth day.
DAY
the sixth day.
GENESIS 1
evening and the morning were
the first day.
ALWAYS
“EVENING”
& “MORNING”
evening
and the morning
were
Means an
TOGETHER WITHOUT
“DAY”
the second day.
ORDINARY
38 times
DAY
evening and the morning were
the third day.
2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this
one thing, that one day is with the Lord
as a thousand years, and a thousand
years as one day.
Figure of
speech
1 Day
Exodus 20:11
For in six days the LORD made
the heavens and the earth, the
sea, and all that is in them, and
rested the seventh day. Therefore
the LORD blessed the
Sabbath day and
hallowed it.
Literal Interpretation
Creation
The Fall
(Sin)
6 Days (Perfect)
If God Used the Big Bang
The Fall
(Sin)
Creation
Billions of Years
Adam
Eve
The Gospel
If sin was not the cause of
death then why did Jesus
have to go to the cross?
The Bible teaches the
works of God are perfect.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, His work is perfect;
Job 36:4
For truly my words are not false; One
who is perfect in knowledge is with you.
And God saw every thing that He had
made, and, behold, it was very good
Genesis 1:31
Millions of
years of death
and decay
Perfect
No death
Mark 10:6
The Words of Jesus
But from the beginning of
the creation God made
them male and female.
Logic
Creation in 6 days
Billions of years
Genesis 1:31
Creation full of decay
a perfect creation
and destruction
God created all
things. (Gen 1, Isa 45:12,
God is not the
Col 1:16, Jer 32:17, Neh 9:6,
Creator of all things
John 1:3, Acts 14:15, Eph
3:9, Heb 11:3, Rev 4:11)
Earth, stars
Stars, earth
Birds, reptiles
Reptiles, birds
Water
Molten mass
Land plants, sun
Sun, land plants
Man before death
Death before man
For God sent not his Son into the
world to condemn the world; but that
the world through him might be saved.
John 3:17
What is
Christ
• God’s solution - Jesus Christ
• How He acted to save us
• The core of the Gospel
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
(The Core/Power of the Gospel)
For I delivered unto you first of all that
which I also received, how that Christ
died for our sins according to the
scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he
rose again the third day according to
the scriptures:
God
Christ
• God’s creation was perfect
• He sets the rules
• We are accountable to Him
• Why we call Him Lord
God
Man
Christ
• The Fall – sin (separation from God)
• The problem – man disobeyed God
• Why we die
• Why we need a Savior
God
Man
Christ
Response
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and
that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
A Different Foundation
Big Bang
Christ
Response
Why did Jesus have
to go to the Cross?
Galatians 1:6-7
I marvel that ye are so soon removed
from him that called you into the grace
of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be
some that trouble you, and would
pervert the gospel of Christ.
Conclusion
 The
big bang undermines the foundation
for the Gospel.
 The big bang presupposes death before
sin.
 The big bang makes God the author of
death and decay.
 The big bang is not logically compatible
with the Bible.
 The big bang has many scientific
problems.
Fact, Theory, or Speculation
6
Problems
The Origin of Stars
Earth Science: Geology, the Environment,
and the Universe, Glencoe and McGraw-Hill,
2002, p. 822.
“All stars form in much the same manner
as the Sun did. The formation of a star
begins with a cloud of interstellar gas
and dust, called a nebula, which
collapses on itself as a result of its own
gravity…. The condensed object will
become a new star.”
The Origin of Stars
And God made two great lights; the
greater light to rule the day, and the
lesser light to rule the night: he
made the stars also.
Genesis 1:16
Star Formation and Physics
The popular idea is that stars form from
vast clouds of gas and dust through
gravitational contraction.
Nebula
Gas and dust
clouds will
expand NOT
contract
Don DeYoung (Ph.D. in Physics), Astronomy
and the Bible, 2000, p. 84.
“The complete birth of a star has
never been observed.”
Fred Whipple, The Mystery of Comets,
(Washington, D.C.: Smithsonian Institute
Press, 1985), pp. 211, 213.
“Precisely how a section of an interstellar
cloud collapses gravitationally into a star
… is still a challenging theoretical
problem… Astronomers have yet to find
an interstellar cloud in the actual process
of collapse.”
Jason Lisle (Ph.D. Astrophysics), The New
Answers Book 3, 2009, p 193.
“It [star formation] has never been
observed, nor could it truly be observed
since the process is supposed to take
hundreds of thousands of years.
Gas in space is very resistant to being
compressed into a star. Compression of
gas causes an increase in magnetic field
strength, gas pressure, and angular
momentum,…”
Charles Lada and Frank Shu (both
astronomers), “The Formation of Sunlike
Stars,” Science, 1990, p. 572.
“Despite numerous efforts, we have yet
to directly observe the process of stellar
formation…. The origin of stars
represents one of the fundamental
unsolved problems of contemporary
astrophysics.”
Conclusion on Star Formation
Abraham Loeb, (Harvard Center for
Astrophysics), quoted by Marcus Chown, “Let
there be Light”, New Scientist, Feb 7, 1998.
“The truth is that we don’t
understand star formation at
a fundamental level.”
Problem #2
Spiral Galaxies
Spiral Galaxy
M101
M51 The Whirlpool
Galaxy
Problem #3
Scientists
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Danny Faulkner
John Byl
Tom Greene
Dave Harrison
James Dire
Jason Lisle
John Rankin
Keith Wanser
Russell Humphreys
Barbara Helmkamp
Don DeYoung
Robert Gentry
Eugene Chaffin
Ron Samec
John Cimbala
Andrew McIntosh
Hee-Choon No
Jay Wile
Ph.D. Astronomy
Ph.D. Astronomy
Ph.D. Astronomy
Ph.D. Astrophysics
Ph.D. Astrophysics
Ph.D. Astrophysics
Ph.D. Mathematical Physics
Ph.D. Condensed Matter Physics
Ph.D. Physics
Ph.D. Physics
Ph.D. Physics
Ph.D. Physics
Ph.D. Nuclear Physics
Ph.D. Physics
Ph.D. Aeronautics
Ph.D. Combustion Theory
Ph.D. Nuclear Engineering
Ph.D. Nuclear Chemistry
An open letter to the scientific community
by 405 scientists, May 2004
New Scientist,
www.cosmologystatement.org
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An open exchange of ideas is not
tolerated.
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The big bang today relies on a growing
number of hypothetical entities, things
we have never observed.
Problem #4
Supernova Remnants
Evidences for a Young Universe
Supernova remnants (SNRs)
Crab Nebula
Light from the supernova reached the
earth in 1054
Evidences for a Young Universe
Supernova Number of observable
SNRs predicted if our
remnant
galaxy is:
Actual
number
observed
Billions of
years old
2
6000
years old
2
5
Second
2260
125
200
Third
5000
0
0
Stage
First
Problem #5 Comets
Short-period comets
Long-period comets
Kuiper Belt
KBO
6 miles
60 – 300 miles
More Problems with the Big Bang
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Missing Monopoles
The Flatness
Problem
Missing Population
III Stars
Where is the
Antimatter?
Jason Lisle, Ph.D. Astrophysics
Problem #6
The Bible
In the beginning God created
17 times the Bible declares that God
stretched the heavens
2 Sam 22:10
Psalm 18:9
Psalm 104:2
Psalm 144:5
Job 9:8
Job 26:7
Job 37:18
Isaiah 40:22
Isaiah 42:5
Isaiah 44:24
Isaiah 45:12
Isaiah 48:13
Isaiah 51:13
Jeremiah 10:12
Jeremiah 51:15
Ezekiel 1:22
Zechariah 12:1
The entire Bible begins with the
words, “In the beginning God
created the heaven and the earth.”
The Authority of Scripture
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of
God, and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.
The word “inspiration” (Greek theopneustos)
literally means “God-breathed”
The Authority of Scripture
Colossians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that
are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be
thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by
him, and for him:
Question
These Scriptures beg the question:
Jeremiah 32:17
Ah Lord God! Behold, thou
hast made the heaven and the
earth by thy great power and
stretched out arm, and there is
nothing too hard for thee:
Do we believe this?
Two Contrasting Statements
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the
worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that things which are seen were not
made of things which do appear.
Through faith we understand that the
universe created itself. By faith we
understand stars and galaxies formed.
By faith we understand planets and all
life formed.
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