Train the Trainer: Informing Counselors about AA-T and AS

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Dennis Bailey-Fougnier, CCCIO
Michelle Pilati, ASCCC
Jeff Spano, CCCCO
ASCCC Fall Plenary
SB 1440 Implementation:
Where Are We Today?
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Over 500 AA-T/AS-T degrees approved in 22 disciplines and more
disciplines in the works
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An internal website is available at SB1440.org
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Counseling resources have been developed
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Marketing materials have been shipped
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The public website has been launched at:
www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com
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Students are requesting verifications and transferring
How Did We Get Here?
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The SB 1440 Implementation and Oversight Committee
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Staff from the CSUCO and the CCCCO
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The Intersegmental Curriculum Workgroup
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The Course Identification Numbering System (C-ID)
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The Intersegmental Marketing Workgroup
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The Counseling Resources Workgroup
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The Early Student Identification Workgroup
…And lots of hard work, negotiation, compromise, patience and
goodwill!
Administration of Justice
Kinesiology
Art History
Mathematics
Business Administration
Music
Communication Studies
Psychology
Early Childhood Education
Physics
Elementary Education
Political Science
English
Sociology
Geology
Studio Arts
Geography
Theater Arts
History
Computer Science
Journalism
Anthropology
And MORE Coming Soon!
The CCC/CSU Internal Website
(your “go to” place)
Go to www.SB1440.org for:
 Counseling Information
 Curriculum Information
 Legislation and Policy
 Communication
Training Student Services Personnel
Go to: www.SB1440.org
 Counselor Info PPT (for department meeting, etc)
 Info for Orientation PPT (for Orientations)
 Transfer PPT (for student workshops)
 Glossary of terms---C-ID & 1440
 ASCCC Statement: Reciprocity, Substitution, Credit by
exam
 Bookmark to duplicate
 Questions (from counselors) & answers
Marketing Materials
 Posters, Tabletops, Bookmarks Sent To:
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Transfer Centers at 112 Colleges and to 70 Centers
23 California State Universities
All California high schools
 Public Website:
www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com
 Radio and On-Line Ads Running
Fall Plenary 2012
Overview
 What is C-ID?
 What does C-ID do?
 How does C-ID relate to SB 1440 and the development
of AA-T/AS-T degrees?
 What is the current status of C-ID?
 What could C-ID do?
 C-ID and You
 The Future of C-ID
What is C-ID?
 Course Identification Numbering System
 Products
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Course descriptors
 Processes
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Convening of intersegmental faculty for descriptor development
Statewide vetting of draft descriptors
Submission of course outlines for review
Course outline review process
What does C-ID do?
 Provides a numerical “tag”, a C-ID designation, for
courses that match an intersegmentally developed
descriptor
 Provides a means of identifying comparable courses
and of ensuring course portability within the CCCs
 Addresses the need for “common course numbers”
 When a college submits a course outline to obtain a C-ID
designation, they are agreeing to accept other courses with
that C-ID designation in lieu of their native course
What does C-ID do?
 Provides a mechanism for one to many articulation
 Any university can opt to articulate C-ID descriptors,
effectively granting articulation to all colleges that have a
course matching a given descriptor
 “descriptor-based” articulation
 Offers a quality control and model for required courses
in the TMCs (transfer model curricula) that are the
basis of the statewide response to SB 1440 (associate
degrees for transfer; AA-T/AS-T degrees)
How does C-ID relate
to SB 1440?
 C-ID’s products (descriptors) describe the courses
that are required in a Transfer Model Curriculum
(TMC).
 C-ID descriptors simplify the degree approval process
at the CCCCO.
 C-ID facilitates the portability of courses taken as part
of AA-T/AS-T degrees.
 C-ID’s processes are used to develop and vet TMCs.
What is the current status of C-ID?
 Descriptors still being developed for some required
courses in finalized TMCs
 Future TMCs will be developed in parallel with or AFTER
descriptor development
 Course outlines being submitted and reviewed for
receipt of a C-ID designation
 Process is slow for some disciplines due to lack of university
faculty participation
 Full CCC participation has not yet been obtained
 Administrative support and encouragement is needed
What is the current status
of C-ID? (October 2012)
 C-ID by the numbers:
 Finalized descriptors
 Non-ag: 204
 Ag: 140
 Draft descriptors: 19
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Additional descriptors needed to support existing TMCs: 24
Colleges that have submitted at least one COR to C-ID: 90
Number of reviewed CORs: 1,910
Number of C-ID designations awarded: 1,140
CSUs have granted articulation for
over 900 courses in 30 disciplines…
What could C-ID do?
 Descriptors could be developed for courses in CTE
disciplines, transfer and non-transfer, where there is
statewide consistency in curriculum.
 Examples: Automotive Technology, California Association of
Alcohol and Drug Educator (CAADE) approved programs
 Where CTE programs are transfer programs, clear
high school – community college – university
pathways can be identified by linking the work of
Statewide Career Pathways and C-ID.
What could C-ID do?
 C-ID could support the effort underway to work more
effectively with high schools, convening faculty (CCC
and HS) to discuss cut scores and to develop
descriptors for basic skills courses.
 As the CCCs attempt to employ the ACE guidelines to
offer credit for military course work, existing and new
C-ID descriptors could be used to describe the CCC
courses for which credit might be awarded.
What could C-ID do?
 If the CSU (and/or) UC were willing, C-ID could offer a
simplified mechanism for gaining GE status. Note:
“pilot” agreed to by CSU.
 Assist “swirling” students, regardless of transfer
intent.
 Example – pursuit of a CTE certificate that is not related to
transfer.
C-ID and You
 Help/support/encourage faculty be ask that their
courses be submitted to C-ID
 Help/support/encourage AOs to submit courses to C-ID
 Educate all of campus community about the importance
of and need to participate in C-ID
 Foster the dialogue about the “big picture”:
 Benefits of TMCs for students and colleges (22 finalized!)
 C-ID provides “quality assurance “ within CCCs and for
universities
DIGs Recently Convened
 Child and Adolescent Development*
 Exercise Science*
 Graphic Arts/Graphic Design
 Health Science
 Hospitality/Hotel Management
 Nutrition/Food Science/Dietetics
 Environmental Science/Studies
* These are in addition to existing TMCs and descriptors. They are not
intended to replace existing TMCs.
 www.SB1440.org
 www.ASCCC.org
 info@asccc.org (email)
 www.C-ID.net
 www.ADegreeWithAGuarantee.com.
 Please ask questions
 Offer feedback
Students Requesting Petition to
Graduate Verifications
 Lists of students indicating transfer with AA-T/AS-T went
to CSSOs per Bruce’s list
 Why aren’t all of my college’s approved AA-T/AS-T
degrees on CSU Mentor?
 What should our students to do if they do not find their
degree listed?
More to be done…
 Remember, we are building and implementing the
system at the same time so work is ongoing!
 IOC meets November 19th in Sacramento
 ICW meets October 30th in Sacramento
 The Early Student Identification Workgroup’s next call
will address process for Fall Quarter/Semester 2013
 The ADegreeWithAGuarantee is being fine-tuned
 C-ID is growing and is critical to our success!
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