Homosexuality & the Bible Portions of a Presentation Originally Given to the St. Julie Billiart Bible Study Group. 20 January, 2009 Resources: Open and Affirming Discussions and Presentations http://www.uccb.org/ONA/ona_timeline/time_line.htm & http://www.uccb.org/ONA/ona_scripture/scripture.htm Peter Wiley Congregational Church of Brookfield “Homosexuality and the Bible” by Walter Wink, Biblical Interpretation at Auburn Theological Seminary in New York City (http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-walter-wink) “Our Mutual Joy” by Lisa Miller – Newsweek Magazine – Dec 15, 2008’ http://www.newsweek.com/id/172653 “Does the Bible Condemn Homosexuality?” by Ron Belgau http://www.cityofgod.net/speech/ulldebate.htm Letter To The Bishops Of The Catholic Church On The Pastoral Care Of Homosexual Persons http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html The Bible is a Very Influential Book • Whatever your beliefs are about the bible or about religion in general, one must acknowledge that the bible is a very influential book - perhaps the most influential book in the history of western civilization. – How many other best sellers can you name that were written between 2,000 and 4000 years ago? • Biblical teachings influence public discourse. – What does the bible actually say about homosexuality? – How are these teachings interpreted by leading scholars of ancient literature and the bible? – How are they interpreted popularly? “What Does the Bible Actually Say About Homosexuality?” • There are 5 passages in the Old Testament that have been used to argue that scripture condemns homosexuals: 1. Gen 19:1-29 (The story of Lot in Sodom) 2. Judges 19-21 (The story of the Levite in Gibeah) 3. Deut 23:17-18 (“There shall be no sodomite of the sons of Israel”) 4. Lev 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman”) 5. Lev 20: (“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death”) There are also 2 passages in the new testament that we won’t get to today (because of time constraints), I’d encourage you to read them in the handout. 1. 1 Cor 6:9-10 (“neither fornicators…nor sodomites… will inherit the kingdom of God). 2. Rom 1:26-27 (“Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions.”) Did God Destroy Sodom Because He Hated The Homosexuals Who Lived There? • Gen. 19:1-29 tells the story of Lot, who extends the hospitality of his home to two strangers, who turn out to be angels. When the people of the town try to gang-rape the angels, they destroy the city of Sodom. • What happens next has often been used to argue that God destroyed the city because he hated the homosexuality of the people who lived there. 1 Two angels reached Sodom in the evening, as Lot was sitting at the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he got up to greet them; and bowing down with his face to the ground, 2 he said, "Please, gentlemen[1], come aside into your servant's house for the night, and bathe your feet; you can get up early to continue your journey." But they replied, "No, we shall pass the night in the town square." 3 He urged them so strongly, however, that they turned aside to his place and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking cakes without leaven, and they dined. • Let’s read it and see what lessons we can learn from it. [1] Gentlemen: Lot does not yet know that the distinguished-looking men are God's messengers; cf Genesis 18:3. Did God Destroy Sodom Because He Hated The Homosexuals Who Lived There? • Lot tries to protect his guests from the rapists by offering them his daughters instead. 4 Before they went to bed, all the townsmen of Sodom, both young and old--all the people to the last man-closed in on the house. 5 They called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to your house tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intimacies with them." 6 Lot went out to meet them at the entrance. When he had shut the door behind him, 7 he said, "I beg you, my brothers, not to do this wicked thing. 8 I have two daughters who have never had intercourse with men. Let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you please. But don't do anything to these men, for you know they have come under the shelter of my roof." 9 They replied, "Stand back! This fellow," they sneered, "came here as an immigrant, and now he dares to give orders! We'll treat you worse than them!" With that, they pressed hard against Lot, moving in closer to break down the door. 10 But his guests put out their hands, pulled Lot inside with them, and closed the door; 11 at the same time they struck the men at the entrance of the house, one and all, with such a blinding light[1] that they were utterly unable to reach the doorway. •The language used to describe their demand is quite specifically sexual. The King James translates it “that we may know them”. The NAB translates “that we may have intimacies with them.” Also, when Lot offers his daughters to the mob, they decline, strengthening the argument that they are homosexuals. [1] [11] Blinding light: a preternatural flash that temporarily dazed the wicked men and revealed to Lot the true nature of his guests. Was Sodom’s sin homosexuality? Or gang-rape? • • • The argument that the destruction of Sodom is about homosexuality is based on the demands of the townspeople in v5 But when the angels’ explain their actions in v12-13, there’s no reference to homosexuality. Was Sodom was destroyed because of the homosexuality of the rapists, Or because they wanted to gang-rape Lot’s guests? Or because of the outcry from the city? 5 They called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to your house tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intimacies with them." 12 Then the angels said to Lot: "Who else belongs to you here? Your sons (sons-inlaw) and your daughters and all who belong to you in the city--take them away from it! 13 We are about to destroy this place, for the outcry reaching the LORD against those in the city is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." • To answer that question, let’s ask ourselves, “What if the story made no reference to homosexuality? If the people of Sodom were punished in that case, then wouldn’t it imply that the sin of Sodom was rape and cruelty –not homosexuality? • It turns out that the bible contains just such a story. The Levite in Gibeah • Judges 19-21 contains a variation on the story of Lot in Genesis. • This story concerns a Levite who had “taken for himself a concubine” and who is traveling with her to their home in Ephraim. • We pick up the story in Judges 19:14 14 They continued on their way till the sun set on them when they were abreast of Gibeah of Benjamin. 15 There they turned off to enter Gibeah for the night. The man waited in the public square of the city he had entered, but no one offered them the shelter of his home for the night[1]. 16 17 In the evening, however, an old man came from his work in the field; he was from the mountain region of Ephraim, though he lived among the Benjaminite townspeople of Gibeah. When he noticed the traveler in the public square of the city, the old man asked where he was going, and whence he had come. [1] 18 He said to him, "We are traveling from Bethlehem of Judah far up into the mountain region of Ephraim, where I belong. I have been to Bethlehem of Judah and am now going back home; but no one has offered us the shelter of his house. 19 We have straw and fodder for our asses, and bread and wine for the woman and myself and for our servant; there is nothing else we need." 20 "You are welcome," the old man said to him, "but let me provide for all your needs, and do not spend the night in the public square." 21 So he led them to his house and provided fodder for the asses. Then they washed their feet, and ate and drank. Private hospitality was the customary means of providing comfort to travelers where public facilities were so rare. The Levite in Gibeah 22 23 24 25 While they were enjoying themselves, the men of the city, who were corrupt[1], surrounded the house and beat on the door. They said to the old man whose house it was, "Bring out your guest, that we may abuse[2] him." The owner of the house went out to them and said, "No, my brothers; do not be so wicked. Since this man is my guest, do not commit this crime. Rather let me bring out my maiden daughter or his concubine[3]. Ravish them, or do whatever you want with them; but against the man you must not commit this wanton crime." When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go. 26 Then at daybreak the woman came and collapsed at the entrance of the house in which her husband was a guest, where she lay until the morning. 27 When her husband rose that day and opened the door of the house to start out again on his journey, there lay the woman, his concubine, at the entrance of the house with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, "Come, let us go"; but there was no answer. So the man placed her on an ass and started out again for home. 29 On reaching home, he took a knife to the body of his concubine, cut her into twelve pieces, and sent them throughout the territory of Israel[1]. 30 Everyone who saw this said, "Nothing like this has been done or seen from the day the Israelites came up from the land of Egypt to this day. Take note of it, and state what you propose to do." The phrase translated “who were corrupt” is literally "who were sons of Belial" indicating that the men are “without worth,” but not necessarily homosexual. This crime and its punishment made the name Gibeah proverbial as a place of shameful wickedness. [2] The corresponding reference in the story of Lot was specifically sexual (“that we may have intimacies with him” or “that we may know him”). Here the sexual element is missing. The term “abuse” suggests that the crowd wants to beat, rob and kill. [3] In this story, the old man offers the rapists women (as Lot does). This time, the men take the old man up on his offer. Why would they do that if what they desired was a homosexual act of rape? [1] [29] A drastic means for arousing the tribes to avenge the unheard of crime of the Benjaminites. [1] The Benjaminite rapists of Gibeah were clearly punished because of their brutality against strangers. There is no implied homosexuality, but they’re punished just the same. Therefore, should we interpret the story of Lot any differently? Apparent Condemnations of Homosexuality In The Torah • The King James translation of Deut. 23:1718, appears to forbid homosexuality and prostitution very explicitly and unambiguously. • Taken out of the context of Israeli culture and language, it’s a clear condemnation of “sodomites”. • But what did “sodomites” mean to the Hebrews? 17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Putting Deut 23:17-18 in context 17 "There shall be no temple harlot • Many Canaanites had among the Israelite women, nor a sexual relations with the temple prostitute among the Israelite pagan priests and men. priestesses who 18 You shall not offer a harlot's fee or a dog's price as any kind of votive prostituted themselves for offering in the house of the LORD, this purpose. your God; both these things are an • The money paid to the abomination to the LORD, your God. temple (“the price of a • Temple prostitution was forbidden in dog”) was considered a Israel, but not because of the sort of votive offering. homosexual practices. • The NAB translates these • Rather, it is condemned because it same two verses was a part of the worship of false differently gods. Unequivocal Condemnations of Homosexuality In the Torah • Two old testament passages seem to condemn homosexual behavior explicitly • The “clobber verses”: – Lev 18:22. – Lev 20:13 22 13 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. • Taken out of context Lev. 18:22 seems to condemn homosexuality explicitly, and Lev 20:13 appears to not only condemn the act, but it also condemns to death the people who perform the act. Leviticus 18 • Biblical text must be read in context to understand it. Let’s read the rest of chapter 18. • Lev 18:6-20 refers to many customs of the people of Egypt and Canaan that were objectionable to the author of Leviticus. • (see next slide) 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and tell them: I, the LORD, am your God. 3 You shall not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you once lived, nor shall you do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you; do not conform to their customs. 6 "None of you shall approach a close relative to have sexual intercourse with her. I am the LORD. 14 You shall not disgrace your father's brother by being intimate with his wife, since she, too, is your aunt. 7 You shall not disgrace your father by having intercourse with your mother. Besides, since she is your own mother, you shall not have intercourse with her. 15 You shall not have intercourse with your daughter-in-law; she is your son's wife, and therefore you shall not disgrace her. 8 You shall not have intercourse with your father's wife, for that would be a disgrace to your father. 16 You shall not have intercourse with your brother's wife, for that would be a disgrace to your brother. 9 You shall not have intercourse with your sister, your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in your own household or born elsewhere. 17 10 You shall not have intercourse with your son's daughter or with your daughter's daughter, for that would be a disgrace to your own family. You shall not have intercourse with a woman and also with her daughter, nor shall you marry and have intercourse with her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; this would be shameful, because they are related to her. 18 You shall not have intercourse with the daughter whom your father's wife bore to him, since she, too, is your sister. While your wife is still living you shall not marry her sister as her rival; for thus you would disgrace your first wife. 19 You shall not have intercourse with your father's sister, since she is your father's relative. "You shall not approach a woman to have intercourse with her while she is unclean from menstruation. 20 You shall not have carnal relations with your neighbor's wife, defiling yourself with her. 11 12 13 You shall not have intercourse with your mother's sister, since she is your mother's relative. “Wouldn’t it have been simpler to say ‘You shall not have sex with anyone but your wife’?? • Lev 18:6-20 are about sex. • At v21, Leviticus changes the subject to the worship of false gods. • Verse 21 refers to the Canaanite custom of sacrificing children to their god Molech. • Taken in context, V22-23 appear to refer to Canaanite religious & cultural practices. • V24-30 make this clear (next slide). 21 You shall not offer any of your offspring to be immolated to Moloch, thus profaning the name of your God. I am the LORD. 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination. 23 You shall not have carnal relations with an animal, defiling yourself with it; nor shall a woman set herself in front of an animal to mate with it; such things are abhorrent. What Is Lev 18 Condemning? • Leviticus 18:22 is not a condemnation of homosexuality, but a condemnation of Egyptian and Canaanite religious and sexual customs. • Lev 18:24-40 suggests that Yahweh gave the land to the Hebrews because he was disgusted with the Canaanites. 24 "Do not defile yourselves by any of these things by which the nations whom I am driving out of your way have defiled themselves. 25 Because their land has become defiled, I am punishing it for its wickedness, by making it vomit out its inhabitants. 26 You, however, whether natives or resident aliens, must keep my statutes and decrees forbidding all such abominations 27 by which the previous inhabitants defiled the land; 28 otherwise the land will vomit you out also for having defiled it, just as it vomited out the nations before you. 29 Everyone who does any of these abominations shall be cut off from among his people. 30 Heed my charge, then, not to defile yourselves by observing the abominable customs that have been observed before you. I, the LORD, am your God." Lev 20:13 • The second unequivocal reference to homosexuality that we shall consider is in Lev. 20:13. In this case, the verse (again taken out of context) not only condemns homosexuality, but it adds a penalty: 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. Lev 20:13 • Placed in context, Chapter 20 of Leviticus is similar to chapter 18. 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Tell the Israelites: Anyone, whether an Israelite or an alien residing in Israel, who gives any of his offspring to Moloch shall be put to death. Let his fellow citizens stone him. 3 I myself will turn against such a man and cut him off from the body of his people; for in giving his offspring to Molech, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 Even if his fellow citizens connive at such a man's crime of giving his offspring to Molech, and fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against that man and his family and will cut off from their people both him and all who join him in his wanton worship of Molech. 6 Should anyone turn to mediums and fortune-tellers and follow their wanton ways, I will turn against such a one and cut him off from his people. 7 Sanctify yourselves, then, and be holy; for I the LORD, your God am holy. Lev 20:13 • Leviticus would punish with death: – Men who curse their parents, – Men who commit adultery, – Men who have sex with their stepmothers, stepdaughters, daughters-in-law, or animals 8 Be careful, therefore, to observe what I, the LORD, who make you holy, have prescribed. 9 "Anyone who curses his father or mother shall be put to death; since he has cursed his father or mother, he has forfeited his life. 10 If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. 11 If a man disgraces his father by lying with his father's wife, both the man and his stepmother shall be put to death; they have forfeited their lives. 12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; since they have committed an abhorrent deed, they have forfeited their lives. • Leviticus would also punish with death: – Male homosexuals (female homosexuals are not mentioned) – Men who marry their mothers in law – Men who have sex with animals. 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. 14 If a man marries a woman and her mother also, the man and the two women as well shall be burned to death for their shameful conduct, so that such shamefulness may not be found among you. 15 If a man has carnal relations with an animal, the man shall be put to death, and the animal shall be slain. 16 If a woman goes up to any animal to mate with it, the woman and the animal shall be slain; let them both be put to death; their lives are forfeit. • Christians do not observe all the laws of the old testament: • E.G. We eat shellfish (Lev 11:10 forbids it). • E.G. We wear clothes of more than one fabric (Lev 19:19 forbids it) • We ignore much of what the old testament has to say about things like slavery, diet, dress, and some of what it says about sex. “So What Does the The Old Testament Actually Say About Homosexuality?” • In this presentation, we have examined 5 passages that relate to this question: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. • What have we learned? – – – • Gen 19:1-29 (The story of Lot in Sodom) Judges 19-21 (The story of the Levite in Gibeah) Deut 23:17-18 (“There shall be no sodomite of the sons of Israel”) Lev 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman”) Lev 20: (“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death”) Is the Old Testament “In favor of homosexuality?” Does it condemn all homosexuality unequivocally? How should we apply what the Old Testament says to our own lives? The New Testament also has passages that relate to homosexuality. We shall consider them briefly. In the New Testament St. Paul condemns relationships that are motivated by lust. He approves of relationships between consenting adults who are committed to each other. It’s a choice………………It’s innate • Do homosexuals choose to live a ‘gay lifestyle’ purely in pursuit of sexual pleasure? • Does choosing to pursue lust & pleasure imply homosexuality? Promiscuity? Sex-for-hire? Child-abuse and pederasty? • The American Psychological Association has stated "most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.“ • If a homosexual orientation is not a choice, can it be morally wrong? • Whether it’s a choice or not, does homosexuality necessarily imply promiscuity, lust and the pursuit of pleasure? Can it be based on a loving, committed relationship between two people of the same sex? • If so, why is that morally wrong? If our interpretation of the bible involves the condemnation of something, we must be very clear on what it is condemning. It’s about Lust………………………………………It’s about Love It’s unlikely that St. Paul could have envisioned gay relationships conducted as faithfully and with as much integrity as heterosexual couples. Thank You Apparent Condemnations of the Homosexuality In the New Testament 9 Do you not know that the unjust will not • In 1 Cor. 6:9-10, Paul condemns inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be “sodomites”. deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor • The Greek word that is translated sodomites here as “boy prostitutes” refers 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards to catamites, the younger partner nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the in a pederastic relationship kingdom of God. between a man and a boy. • The word is derived from the name of the Greek god Ganymede, a boy who (in Greek mythology) was seduced and then kept by Zeus as his “Cup-bearer”. • The term that is translated as Sodomites in 1 Cor 6 refers to the adult males in these relationships. There are similar condemnations of such practices in Romans 1:26-27 and in 1 Tim 1:8-10. • Hence the passage has more to do with prostitution and the exploitation of helpless boys than it has to do with homosexuality. • Romans 1:26-27 (see backup slide) is similar. Rom. 1:26-27 18 12 The wrath 13 of God 14 is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes. 24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts 15 for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips 30 and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. 31 They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. It’s a choice………………It’s innate What Kind of Homosexuality Is Paul Condemning? • Do homosexuals choose to live a ‘gay lifestyle’ purely in pursuit of sexual pleasure? • Does choosing to pursue lust & pleasure imply homosexuality? Promiscuity? Sex-for-hire? Child-abuse and pederasty? • The American Psychological Association has stated "most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.“ • If a homosexual orientation is not a choice, can it be morally wrong? • Whether it’s a choice or not, does homosexuality necessarily imply promiscuity, lust and the pursuit of pleasure? Can it be based on a loving, committed relationship between two people of the same sex? • If so, why is that morally wrong? If our interpretation of the bible involves the condemnation of something, we must be very clear on what it is condemning. It’s about Lust………………………………………It’s about Love The relationships Paul describes in Romans are heavy with lust; they are not relationships between consenting adults who are committed to each other as faithfully and with integrity. That was something Paul simply could not envision for homosexuals. “So What Does the Bible Actually Say About Homosexuality?” • In this presentation, we have examined 7 passages from the bible that relate to this question: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. • Gen 19:1-29 (The story of Lot in Sodom) Judges 19-21 (The story of the Levite in Gibeah) Deut 23:17-18 (“There shall be no sodomite of the sons of Israel”) Lev 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman”) Lev 20: (“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death”) 1 Cor 6:9-10 (“neither fornicators…nor sodomites… will inherit the kingdom of God). Rom 1:26-27 (“Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions.”) What have we learned? – – – Is the bible “In favor of homosexuality?” Does it condemn all homosexuality unequivocally? How should we apply what the bible says to our own lives?