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Statements made outside of an IETF session, mailing list or other function, that are clearly not intended to be input to an IETF activity, group or function, are not IETF Contributions in the context of this notice. • Please consult RFC 3978 for details. Agenda • • • • • 05 mins: Admistrativa 25 mins: Report from the Interim Meeting 30 mins: Mesh 30 mins: Hubs and Spokes 10 mins: Fred Templin IP tunneling and MTU • 10 mins: General documents the working group needs to take on • 10 mins: Next Steps and Phase 2 Interim Meeting Summary.1 • NOTES: http://bgp.nu/~dward/softwires/200602SoftwiresInterimNotes.html • Reviewed some current deployments – KDDI, Freenet6 • Reviewed Security Analysis • Criteria for selection was evaluated based on MUSTs from Problem Statement – ATS6, TSP, 2@L2TPv2, L2TPv3 were proposed as solutions for Hub & Spoke – V4overV6 and tunnel saf were proposed as solutions for Mesh Interim Meeting Conclusions.1 1. Attendees reached consensus on solutions for both scenarios • L2TPv2 was selected as Phase 1 solution for H&S • L2TPv3 was selected as Phase 2 solution for H&S • Combined MPBGP solutions from Yong Cui and C. Metz was selected for Mesh solution 2. Attendees reached conclusion on next steps • Phase 1 Framework solution for H&S to be written immediately How to solve H&S scenarios w/ L2TPv2 • Phase 2 Framework solution for H&S to be presented as soon as Phase 1 is documented How to solve all H&S requirements w/ L2TPv3 and propose extensions • Create Framework doc for solutions to Mesh scenario How to solve all Mesh requirements w/ MPBGP and propose extensions Adopt Multicast solution by Shepherd, Wu, Li, Farinacci as WG doc • Adopt security analysis and radius extensions as WG docs Interim Meeting Conclusions.2 • Meeting continued second day w/ break out sessions on two scenarios • Proposed third interim meeting in “September” • Discuss Framework for Phase 2 H&S • List extension set for Phase 2 • Finalize extension set for Mesh • Meeting in Hong Kong was very successful • Many thanks to hosts: CERNET and CHUK • Many thanks to Mark Townsley (INT AD) for being present and keeping us to present and future process • Rough consensus was achieved and notes posted to list WG activities since the interim meeting • The chairs posted on March 3rd a message with the title: "Notes and Consensus from Interim Meeting in Hong Kong". A number of clarification questions were asked on the mailing list since. • • Problem Statement draft at -01. Needs final, final edits in -02 (any second now) Softwire ML statistics since the interim meeting: – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – • 26 From: Jordi Palet Martinez 15 From: Alain Durand 12 From: Maria A. Dos Santos 11 From: David Ward 8 From: JF Tremblay 7 From: Michael Fiumano 5 From: Bill Storer 3 From: Tim Chown 2 From: Ole Troan 1 From: HUI-HCHBJ DENG 1 From: Eric Gray 1 From: Laurent Toutain 1 From: Tschofenig, Hannes 1 From: Bruno STEVANT 1 From: Marc Blanchet 1 From: Pekka Savola Much interesting discussion on TTM, support, deployment and technical criteria – No Open issues remain Consensus • Given that: – There was discussion involving many wg participants – No open issues considered remaining – Solution providers will represent a common vision in next presentations as stated in interim meeting notes and conclusion • We declare rough working group consensus: – Hub & Spokes scenario: • L2TPv2 chosen as the immediate solution • L2TPv3 in phase 2 as a backward compatible upgrade – Mesh scenario: • Conjoined effort for extensions to MPBGP based on work presented by Chris Metz and Yong Cui Presentations • • • • Mesh H&S Fred Next steps Deliverables • General docs – Security analysis – Radius accounting • Mesh – Framework doc using MPBGP – Multicast draft extensions – tunnel-safi and any additional softwires attributes • To be reviewd by L2VPN, L3VPN, IDR, Security types • Hub and Spoke – Phase 1 Framework doc using L2TPv2 – Phase 2 Framework doc using L2TPv3 Extensions Next Deliveries • July 2006 – – – – – Security analysis Radius accounting Mesh Framework doc using MPBGP Mesh Multicast draft extensions Mesh tunnel-safi and any additional softwires attributes – Hub and Spoke Phase 1 Framework doc using L2TPv2 • Potential Interim WG meeting September 2006 – Focus on Hub and Spoke Phase 2 and Mesh extensions • November 2006 – Hub and Spoke Phase 2 Framework doc using L2TPv3 – Any new Mesh extensions • March 2007 – Hub and Spoke Phase 2 Extensions