ELASTOMER SEALS
JUNE 2015
UNCONFIRMED
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
JUNE 22-25, 2015
MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation
from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, JUNE 22 to TUESDAY, JUNE 23, 2015
1.0
OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN AND CLOSED
1.1
Call to Order / Quorum Check – OPEN and CLOSED
The Elastomer Seals Task Group (SEAL TG) was called to order by M. Koucouthakis,
Chairperson, at 8:00 a.m., 22-Jun-2015.
It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion
of the meeting.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME
COMPANY NAME
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Kent
DeFranco
Lockheed Martin Corp.
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Patrick
Manuel
Heppe
Koucouthakis
The Boeing Company
Honeywell Aerospace
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Estrella
Watson
UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)
Proxy for S.
Kronabetter
Chairperson; Proxy for
M. Brunet
V. Chairperson; Proxy
for B. Clothier
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME
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John
Joseph
Mark
Robert
Sheila
Manuel
COMPANY NAME
Dickinson
Froelich
Keal
Nichols
Olewine
Rebelo
Parker Hannifin Corp. CSS Division
Greene, Tweed & Co.
Meggitt Polymers & Composites
Trelleborg Sealing Solutions
E.I. DuPont de Nemours
Freudenberg-NOK
Proxy for J. Cutler
PRI Staff Present
Keith
1.2
Purnell
Safety Information– OPEN and CLOSED
Fire exits and how to vacate the building using the stairs was reviewed. Attendees were
requested to notify PRI Staff of any emergencies.
1.3
Review Code of Ethics and Meeting Conduct – OPEN and CLOSED
The Nadcap Personal Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest were reviewed with the Task Group
in the OPEN and CLOSED meetings.
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1.4
Present the Antitrust Video – OPEN and CLOSED
The Antitrust Video was reviewed with the Task Group in the OPEN and CLOSED meetings.
1.5
Review Agenda – OPEN
The agenda for the June 2015 meeting was reviewed. Attendees were given the opportunity to
discuss their expectations for this meeting. An expectation agreed upon was to complete the
ballot comment resolution of the Draft AC7115 Rev C audit checklist.
1.6
Acceptance of Meeting Minutes – OPEN
The minutes from March 2015 Nadcap meeting were reviewed.
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by E. Watson to accept the March 2015 minutes as
written. Motion Passed Unanimously.
2.0
REVIEW MEMBERSHIP STATUS – OPEN
The voting membership was reviewed and proxy votes were recorded.
The voting records and meeting attendance for SEAL Task Group Voting Members, Subscriber
and Supplier, were reviewed for compliance to the requirements for maintaining membership. PD
1100 paragraph 5.10.6 states “To maintain Task Group Voting Member (Supplier or Subscriber)
privileges, the following criteria shall be met unless the Task Group Chair determines that other
circumstances warrant retention:”
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Voting Member or approved alternate representation (Alternate Voting Member or proxy)
shall not be absent from three consecutive regular Nadcap Task Group meetings.
Voting Member, or approved alternate representation, shall not miss a vote on 2 consecutive
letter ballots. A waive shall count as a vote (OP 1101).
All SEAL TG Voting Members except M. Gage & D. Grulke met the requirements for voting on
letter ballots. The Voting Members and Chairperson agreed to waive the voting requirement for
this occurrence. M. Gauge and D. Grulke will maintain Voting Member status.
ACTION ITEM: M. Koucouthakis to email M. Gauge and D. Grulke to explain the importance of
voting on letter ballots. (Due Date: 31-Aug-2015)
J. Tengco of Parker Hannifin requested to become a SEAL TG Alternate Supplier Voting
Member. J. Tengco has attended two SEAL TG Meetings.
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by J. Dickinson to approve J. Tengco as a SEAL TG
Alternate Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed Unanimously.
R. Nichols of Trelleborg Sealing Solutions requested to become a SEAL TG Alternate Supplier
Voting Member. R. Nichols has attended two SEAL TG Meetings.
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by J. Dickinson to approve R. Nichols as a SEAL TG
Alternate Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed Unanimously.
M. Rebelo of Freudenberg-NOK requested to become a SEAL TG Supplier Voting Member. M.
Rebelo has attended two SEAL TG Meetings.
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by E. Watson to approve M. Rebelo as a SEAL TG
Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed Unanimously.
J. Dickinson Alternate Seals Supplier Voting member for Parker Hannifin and R. McDaniel Seals
Supplier Voting member for Parker Hannifin requested to exchange voting roles.
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Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by E. Watson to approve J. Dickinson as the
Supplier Voting member and R. McDaniel as the Alternate Seals Supplier Voting member for
Parker Hannifin. Motion Passed Unanimously.
S. Olewine of E.L. DuPonte de Nemours requested to become a SEAL TG Supplier Voting
Member. S. Olewine has attended two SEAL TG Meetings.
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by E. Watson to approve S. Olewine as a SEAL TG
Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed Unanimously.
K. DeFranco, Chair, confirmed all new voting members.
3.0
STAFF REPORT – OPEN
Staff Engineer, K. Purnell, presented the PRI Staff Report that included Auditor Status, SEAL TG
Metrics, Audit Cycle Time, Most Common NCR’s, Average number of Major and Minor NCR’s,
Latest Changes, Future Nadcap Meeting Dates / Locations and Staff Engineer Delegation
Metrics. (Attached)
3.0 PRI Staff Report
SEAL June 2015.ppt
Staff Engineer was requested to compile NCR paragraphs and average number of NCR’s for two
rolling years for the PRI Staff Report.
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell will report NCR paragraphs and the average number of NCR’s for two
rolling years in the October PRI Staff Report. (Due Date: 16-Oct-2015)
4.0
SUPPLIER SUPPORT COMMITTEE REPORT - OPEN
The Task Group had a moment of silence in remembrance of John Hudspeth, its SSC
representative, who passed away on 20-May-2015.
K. Purnell presented the Supplier Support Committee (SSC) update that included an overview of
the SSC Leadership Team, how the SSC helps suppliers, current SSC activities and their new
Supplier Initiatives. For additional information please review the SSC minutes posted on the PRI
website at www.p-r-i.org.
M. Koucouthakis asked for a volunteer to become the SSC representative for the SEAL TG. No
supplier volunteered to act as a representative at this time.
ACTION ITEM: Suppliers interested in being the SEAL TG SSC representative should contact
kpurnell@p-r-i.org. (Due Date: 1-Oct-2015)
5.0
FEEDBACK FROM AMS CE MEETING
The AMS CE committee’s last meeting was in Charleston, South Carolina on May 12-14, 2015.
AMS CE Sub-Team is continuing with the development of the draft ARP 3051 for Molded
Elastomer Components Manufacturing Process Requirements.
6.0
AC7115 REV C DRAFT – OPEN
6.1
Review Draft Checklist
The latest AC7115 Draft Rev C audit checklist was reviewed and discussed prior to resolving
ballot comments. Subscribers are to begin communicating with their suppliers about the revised
AC7115 checklist being released and if they are mandating the audit. Subscribers are to also
notify K. Purnell of the number of new audits to expect.
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ACTION ITEM: Subscribers to communicate to their suppliers that the revised AC7115 Rev C
checklist is being released and if your company is mandating. (Due Date: 16-Oct-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Subscribers to notify kpurnell@p-r-i.org of the number of new audits to expect to
the AC7115 Rev. C checklist. (Due Date: 16-Oct-2015)
6.2
Ballot Comment Resolution
Ballot comments on Draft AC7115 Rev C were reviewed and resolved. All checklist changes
agreed to were editorial. The SEAL TG requested the checklist title be changed to Nadcap Audit
Criteria for Elastomeric Components; the naming will not be changed as there is a standard
naming format to be followed. The checklist name will be “Nadcap Audit Criteria for Elastomer
Seals – Elastomeric Components”. The Word “procedure” is to be deleted from paragraph 9.1 of
AC7115 on the next revision and paragraph 21.2.5c should have “A2LA” deleted. K. Purnell to
assure the definitions of procedure and traveler are the same in AC7115 and ARP 3051.
ACTION ITEM: B. McSorley to delete A2LA from paragraph 21.2.5c of the AC7115 Draft C checklist.
(Due Date: 16-Jul-2015)
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to work with S. Divens to assure the definitions of Procedure and
Traveler are the same in AC7115 and ARP 3051. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2015)
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to add deletion of the word “procedure” in paragraph 9.1 to the list of
future changes to AC7115. (Due Date: 31-Aug-2015)
6.3
Matrix Review
The AC7115 Job Audit Matrix was reviewed and no changes were suggested or required.
6.4
Move Forward Plan
AC7115 Draft Rev C will be balloted to NMC after ballot comment changes are incorporated.
Additional auditor candidates will be identified and interviewed
Auditor training plan for the new AC7115 Draft Rev C checklist was discussed and will include:
 Review of the fabric reinforced seals manufacturing process by R. Nichols during the
October 2015 auditor conference
 B. Kocsis and K. Purnell to receive training at Freudenberg NOK on Dec. 9, 2015
 Auditors will participate in one training audit with B. Kocsis
 B. Kocsis will train additional auditors as needed
Motion made by K. DeFranco and seconded by P. Heppe to accept the AC7115 Draft Rev C
auditor training plan. Motion passed unanimously.
6.5
NMC Compliance Spreadsheet
The NMC compliance spreadsheet for AC7115 will be updated with the latest checklist changes.
6.6
sfrm66 Preliminary Questionnaire for Elastomer Seals
The revised s-frm-66 Preliminary Questionnaire for Elastomer Seals will be released when
AC7115 Rev. C is posted in eAuditNet.
6.7
Test Audit
Motion made by E. Watson and seconded by K. DeFranco to waive the test audit for Draft
AC7115 Rev C. Motion passed unanimously.
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6.8
Pilot Audit
Motion made by E. Watson and seconded by K. DeFranco to waive the pilot audit for Draft
AC7115 Rev C. Motion passed unanimously.
7.0
AUDITS – CLOSED
7.1
Review Scheduled and Conducted Audits
The current SEAL audit schedule for the next six (6) months was reviewed; Subscribers were
encouraged to observe audits to support the requirements of OP 1117 – Auditor Consistency.
There are zero SEAL audits in Staff Engineer Review.
One SEAL audit was in Supplier Review.
7.2
Discuss Problem Audits
There were no problem audits to discuss.
8.0
AUDITORS – CLOSED
8.1
Data Analysis Review – Overall Auditor Performance
Auditor performance was reviewed and included the most common checklist paragraph
referenced in NCRs traceable to the Auditors that wrote the NCRs, Audit Oversight Feedback,
and Average and Total NCRs per Day written by the Auditors. This information is used for
evaluating Auditor Consistency. There was a limited amount of data to review because of the
small number of auditors and audits conducted.
8.2
OP 1117 Auditor Consistency
The SEAL TG reviewed the auditor observation schedule and feedback from two observation
audits that were conducted this year. All of the feedback was positive. One new auditor requires
observation.
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to ask S. Brewin if he is able to observe Nadcap audit 165563. (Due Date:
30-Sep-2015)
9.0
REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS – CLOSED
The SEAL TG reviewed the Delegation Tracking Form for K. Purnell. Staff Engineer K. Purnell
met the minimum criteria of having at least 10% of findings reviewed by the Task Group
Subscribers with at least a 90% concurrence rate. Audit comments were reviewed and resolved.
Staff Engineer maintains delegated status.
10.0
CLOSED MEETING ISSUES – CLOSED
The advantages of inspecting finished parts from recent inventory as part of job audits was
discussed.
11.0
MENTORING OF NEW SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS – CLOSED
Mentoring new subscribers was not discussed during this meeting.
12.0
MEETING CLOSE-OUT – CLOSED
All action items were reviewed and due dates established. For specific details, please see the
current SEAL Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.
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October 2015 Closed meeting agenda topics were agreed to be the same as this meeting’s
agenda topics.
13.0
AC7122 TESTING METHODS FOR FABRIC / TEXTILE MATERIALS
E. Watson presented an overview of the Fabric / Textile Testing sub-team meeting conducted on
17-Jun-2015. The team reviewed the list of specifications they identified as being applicable to
testing fabric and elastomer impregnated fabric. These tests are also reference in AMS 3320 and
AMS 3316. Suppliers are to review the test method list to see if any additional methods and
specifications should be included. R. Nichols will incorporate the methods and specifications into
AC7112/1, /2 and /5. An updated draft checklist will be sent to the sub-team members for audit
question development.
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to send the fabric / textile test method list created by the sub team to the
supplier attendees so they can check if additional test methods and specifications should be
included. (Due Date: 16-Jul-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Suppliers to email kpurnell@p-r-i.org any additional methods and specifications
that should be included in the list of fabric / textile test methods. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2015)
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to send AC7122/1, /2 and /5 to R. Nichols. (Due Date: 6-Aug-2015)
ACTION ITEM: R. Nichols to update AC7122/1, /2 and /5 with Fabric / Textile test methods and
specifications and return to kpurnell@p-r-i.org. (Due Date: 31-Aug-2015)
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to send updated draft AC7122/1, /2 and /5 to the SEAL TG Sub-Team.
(Due Date: 4-Sep-2015)
14.0
OP 1114 APPENDIX SEAL – OPEN
OP 1114 and OP 1114 Appendix SEAL were reviewed and no changes are required at this time.
15.0
ARP 3051 MOLDED ELASTOMER COMPONENT MANUFACTURING PROCESS
REQUIREMENTS - OPEN
The AMS CE committee is developing ARP 3051 Molded Elastomer Components Manufacturing
Processing Requirements. There are weekly one hour conference calls for developing this
document. SEAL TG members have been participating and are encouraged to participate in the
development of this document. E. Watson and S. Olewine requested to be included in the AMS
CE ARP 3051 conference calls. M. Rebelo volunteered to compile SEAL TG comments on ARP
3051 and forward them to S. Divens.
SEAL TG reviewed the most recent Draft ARP 3051. It was suggested an Aerospace Standard
(AS) would be more useful than an Aerospace Recommended Practice (ARP). A separate ARP
or Aerospace Standard will be developed to address Fabric/Textile Reinforced Seals
Manufacturing Process.
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to send S. Divens a request to add E. Watson and S. Olewine to the AMS
CE ARP 3051 conference call list. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2015)
ACTION ITEM: M. Koucouthakis to see if ARP 3051 can be changed to an Aerospace Standard
(AS). (Due Date: 30-Sep-2015)
ACTION ITEM: SEAL TG members to send any comments on ARP 3051 to Manuel Rebelo at
mvr@fngp.com. (Due Date: 30-Sep-2015)
16.0
OP 1117 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY – OPEN
The SEAL TG reviewed their Auditor Consistency progress. Auditor Metrics have been evaluated
and observations audits are scheduled. The Latest Draft of OP 1117 was reviewed and there are
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Appendices with examples of an Auditor Observation Plan, a System for Prioritizing Auditors that
need Observation, and an Annual Report Template. There is also an example of a Task Group
specific Observer Feedback Form.
17.0
AUDITOR CONFERENCE 2015 – OPEN
The SEAL TG 2015 Auditor Conference will tentatively begin on Saturday, 17-Oct-2015 at 1:00
pm and end on Sunday, 18-Oct-2015 at 10:00 am. Topics will include:
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18.0
Review Revised AC7115 Checklist (S. Brewin, E. Watson, K. Stefanidou)
Most Common NCRs and NCR Data Analysis for Auditor Consistency (K. Purnell)
Audit Observer and Subscriber Feedback (M. Koucouthakis & K. Purnell)
Question / Answer / Open Discussion Session (Subscribers & Auditors)
Fabric / Textile Reinforced Seals Process Training (R. Nichols)
NMC Audit Effectiveness
SEAL TG INITIATIVES – OPEN
Review and update SEAL Task Group Priorities
SEAL TG created the following list of activities and rated them as High (H), Medium (M) or Low
(L) priority and if they are (A) Active, (N) Not Active or (C) Closed. Where multiple activities have
the same priority designation, numbers can be used to further clarify the activity’s level of
importance. This list was created so the SEAL TG maintains focus on its high priority tasks.
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19.0
(HA1) Fabric Reinforced Seals Checklist AC7115 Draft C
(HA1) Communicate Need for Creating an AS Standard to Address Fabric Reinforced Seals
(HA1) Monitor Progress on ARP3051 for Seal Manufacturing
(HA1) Formal SEAL Specific Auditor Training Program for AC7115, AC7122
(HA2) Captive Laboratory Audit Questions for Fabric/Textile AC7122 Checklists
(MA) Monitor Progress of AMS2750/1 Sub-Team for Press / Curing Oven Control
(MA) Mixing Facilities – Take Question of Audit Mandate to SAE AMS CE Elastomers
Committee
(MA) Quality System Applicable to Mixing Facility (QPG)
(LA) Review Auditor Candidate Qualifications and Interview
(LN) Value Added Distributors (Purchase Order Flow down)
(LN) Develop a New Subscriber Mentor Program
NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
The question was asked if a supplier has only one AC7115 Rev C scope and one material could
the AC7115 Rev C audit be performed in one day. The eAuditNet bias function could be used to
adjust audit duration.
ACTION ITEM: K. Purnell to check with the auditors and verify if audits with one material and one
accreditation scope could be performed in less than two days (Due Date: 31-Aug-2015).
20.0
MEETING CLOSE-OUT – OPEN
All action items were reviewed and due dates established. For specific details, please see the
current SEAL Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.
The October 2015 SEAL TG Open Meeting Agenda topics will include:
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Staff Report
SSC Report
AC7115 Draft Rev C
AC7122 Testing Methods for Fabric/Textile Materials
Mentoring
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Fabric Reinforced Seals ARP
OP 1117 Auditor Consistency
2015 Auditor Conference Report Out
SEAL Task Group Initiatives
New Business
ADJOURNMENT – 23-Jun-2015 – Meeting was adjourned at 4:45 p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: Keith Purnell, kpurnell@p-r-i.org
***** For PRI Staff use only: ******
Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select
one)
YES* ☒ NO ☐
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring revision:
Who is responsible:
AC7115 Draft C
K. Purnell
Due date:
7/24/2015