30 September 2013 Native Title Review Team Deloitte PO Box N250 Grosvenor Place Sydney NSW 2000 By Email: native.title@deloitte.com.au Review of the Roles and Functions of Native Title Organisations - Submission 1. 1 2 Background 1.1 Other than where specified in this submission, the acronyms used have the same meanings as set out at page iii of the review discussion paper1. 1.2 This submission is made by the Torres Strait Regional Authority (“TSRA”) in its capacity as the currently recognised Native Title Representative Body for the Torres Strait region. A map showing the boundary of the TSRA’s representative body area is contained in Annexure 1. 1.3 A list of the current native title bodies2 and ongoing claims in the Torres Strait representative body area is contained in Annexure 2. 1.4 The representative body function of the TSRA is largely administered by its discrete Native Title Office (“NTO”). Unlike other NTRBs and NTSPs, the representative body function is not the sole function of the TSRA. Details of the TSRA and the NTO and their functions are contained in Annexure 3. 1.5 The NTO in the TSRA takes instructions directly from claim groups and their applicants in respect of pre-determination matters and from RNTBCs in respect of post-determination matters. Annexure 4 contains a list of the types of predetermination and post-determination matters which frequently arise in the Torres Strait region. 1.6 As is evident from that list, there are many pre-determination and postdetermination matters specific to the Torres Strait. Moreover, the region involves many other important distinguishing features when compared with representative body areas in other parts of Australia. 1.7 Amongst those distinguishing features is the number of post-determination RNTBCs in the Torres Strait and the periods of time over which they have been Deloitte discussion paper dated June 2013. Representative body and RNTBCs. Document1 operating (in some cases over a decade)3. There remains only a small number of native title claims still to be determined. 1.8 2. However it is paramount to the review outcomes that there continue to remain a separate representative body specific to the Torres Strait region. Proposal for Change of Torres Strait Representative Body Recognition 2.1 Torres Strait Islander RNTBCs have proposed a change to the representative body arrangements in the Torres Strait. For that purpose an entity has already been established: Gur A Baradharaw Kod Torres Strait Sea and Land Council Torres Strait Islander Corporation (ICN: 7689) (“Torres Strait Sea and Land Council”). 2.2 It is specifically proposed that the recognition by the Commonwealth Minister under s203AD of the NTA of the TSRA as the Native Title Representative Body cease on 30 June 2015 and that the Minister instead give recognition to the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council as the Native Title Representative Body from 1 July 2015. 2.3 The Torres Strait Sea and Land Council is registered under the CATSI Act. Corporate membership is open to all Torres Strait Island RNTBC’s which are registered under the CATSI Act4. 2.4 The Rule Book for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council provides for it to have the following objectives:“(a) To empower the native title holders and native title bodies (RNTBCs) of the Torres Strait to fulfil their responsibilities to hold and manage their sea and lands in accordance with traditional law and custom. (b) To advance the interests of traditional property owners and native title bodies of the Torres Strait at a regional, national and international level. (c) To protect and promote the traditional rights of the peoples of the Torres Strait to their land and sea, including cultural heritage and maintenance. (d) To protect and promote the operation of the traditional laws and customs, governance and decision making that sustains the rights of traditional owners and native title bodies within the governance of the Torres Strait and Australia. (e) To protect and promote the sustainable management and economic development of native title land and sea and their resources in the Torres Strait. (f) To promote and support the authority and independence of native title bodies of the Torres Strait to pursue resources for 3 Saibai Mura Buway (Torres Strait Islander) Corporation is the longest running RNTBC in the Torres Strait region. It was incorporated on 6 June 1997. 4 See paragraphs 5.1 and 5.2 of the Rule Book of the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council. 2 native title bodies to perform their responsibilities to the native title holders of the Torres Strait”. 2.5 3. For the reasons given in paragraph 4 of this submission, the TSRA Board has resolved to support the proposed change to representative body recognition. That was initially communicated to FaCHSIA by way of the TSRA’s letter dated 20 November 2012. In addition to reiterating that support, this submission deals with the following matters:(a) Identifies some of the issues to be addressed in effecting the change in representative body recognition. (b) Responds to the seven discussion points listed in the review discussion paper. Native Title Representative Body for the Torres Strait Region 3.1 The Terms of Reference for the review specifically require that the review examine the scope for rationalisation of the number of NTRBs and NTSPs currently operating in the native title system. It is reiterated as a fundamental point to this submission that there must continue to be a distinct representative body for the Torres Strait region. 3.2 It is strongly opposed that any representative body for the region be rationalised or amalgamated with a representative body involving other parts of Australia. 3.3 The reasons for this are as follows:(a) There is a clear need for a focussed Native Title Representative Body service to be provided to the Torres Strait RNTBCs in a postdetermination environment. The overwhelming case is for more specific and targeted Native Title Representative Body functions and services for Torres Strait RNTBCs. A rationalisation of Native title Representative Bodies in North Queensland would inevitably involve the reverse. (b) The Torres Strait involves numerous isolated Islands across 35,000 square kilometres. Of that, approximately 98% is seas. A retraction of service centres, physical presence and focus away from the different RNTBCs for each of the Islands, let alone the region, would inevitably lead to much poorer service outcomes. (c) The Torres Strait region is geographically, ethnically and in respect of traditional law and custom, a very distinct region. That is particularly so for Torres Strait RNTBCs, other native title bodies and the communities they serve. These points are already generally accepted by the Commonwealth. They are reflected by the Commonwealth establishing the TSRA as its own overarching statutory body for the region. The ATSI Act affords the TSRA its functionality for this specific region on the following bases (amongst others):i) To recognise and maintain the special and unique Ailan Kastom of Torres Strait Islanders living in the Torres Strait area. 3 ii) To formulate and implement programs for Torres Strait Islanders and Aboriginal persons, living in the Torres Strait area. iii) To develop policy proposals to meet national, State and regional needs and priorities of Torres Strait Islanders, and Aboriginal persons, living in the Torres Strait area. iv) To take such reasonable action as it considers necessary to protect Torres Strait Islander and Aboriginal cultural material and information relating to the Torres Strait area if the material or information is considered sacred or otherwise significant by Torres Strait Islanders or Aboriginal persons5. For similar reasons in a native title context, any representative body for the Torres Strait region must be specific to the region. 5 (d) In a post-determination environment, such as that which largely now applies in the Torres Strait, the focus of representative body assistance has changed from native title claim resolution to assisting RNTBCs realise social, cultural and economic aspirations through exercise of, or applying leverage gained from, the recognition of native title. Such RNTBC aspirations in the Torres Strait are specific to the region. They involve utilising the particular resources of the Torres Strait such as fishing and Island related tourism. (e) To a very large extent, RNTBCs in the region need to work together (including in commercial ventures), to realise those aspirations. This necessitates a representative body which is local to the region, closely controlled and directed by the RNTBCs which it serves and which can develop a substantial corporate knowledge specific to the region. (f) There is a specific Ailan Kastom and traditional laws/lores for the Torres Strait and areas and objects of cultural significance specific to the Torres Strait. In addition, the Torres Strait native title determinations recognise traditional laws which are specific to land and waters in this region. There is a broader body of traditional laws which apply to other things as well. Some of them, such as traditional law in respect of dispute resolution, are to a limited degree contained in the Rule Books of the RNTBCs. However there are other traditional laws which are not recorded anywhere in writing. For example, crucial traditional laws relating to family and clan traditional ownership of discrete areas within the Islands of the Torres Strait. That system of traditional law is unique to the Torres Strait. Because it is entirely unwritten it requires verbal transmission between RNTBC members and the representative body professionals who advise them. For example in relation to ILUA matters, traditional land dispute resolution matters etc. To address these things there must be a high degree of localisation in the representative body including as to its location, identity and functionality. There must also be a very close connection and trusted relationship between RNTBCs and the representative body. (g) Unique to the Torres Strait region, the native title held by some RNTBCs (on behalf of common law native title holders), has an international S142A of the ATSI Act. 4 perspective. For example, the native title determination for Boigu Island contains recognition of interests under the Treaty between Australia and Papua New Guinea concerning sovereignty, maritime boundaries and related matters. These include the interests of Indigenous Papua New Guinea persons in having access to the determination area for traditional purposes. The relationship between native title and those interests is not described in any detail in the determination orders. However it is the subject of unwritten Ailan Kastom and traditional law. Again, where an RNTBC requires representative body assistance in relation to such matters, the representative body must have highly specialised local knowledge and trusted relationships. In reality these are things which only a representative body specific to the region can develop. 3.4 4. (h) It is important to note that Torres Strait Islanders and Aboriginal people in this region have their own Indigenous languages. English is a second or third language for many people. Furthermore, although there can be some degree of written communication, many Torres Strait communities have an oral tradition meaning that information and advice from a representative body, particularly where it involves complex issues, needs to be conveyed verbally. This means representative body staff servicing the Torres Strait must travel extensively from Island to Island and require trusted relationships with RNTBC representative who can interpret and translate advice. Effective communication between representative body and RNTBCs will be further enhanced by the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council proposal. (i) The logistics and associated costs involved in the discharge of representative body functions in the Torres Strait must not be underestimated. There are only limited scheduled flights between Islands meaning that charter flights must commonly be engaged. There are similar travel and logistical considerations for RNTBC representatives when meeting together with their representative body. In such a situation, RNTBC representatives usually need to take flights to Thursday Island or another central Torres Strait location. These logistics are able to be handled, both in administrative and financial terms, where the representative body is specific to and physically located in the region. However, were there to be a rationalisation/amalgamation between the Torres Strait representative body and representative bodies for other parts of Australia, the logistics and associated costs would simply not be viable. The nearest regional centre accessible from the Torres Strait by air is Cairns. Cairns is located 800kms from Thursday Island and the cost of a single return flight is approximately $700. The distance between Thursday Island and the outer most Island of the Torres Strait (Mer Island) is 200kms and the approximate cost of a return charter flight between those locations is $5000. Any amalgamation between a representative body specific to the Torres Strait and representatives bodies for other parts of Australia would entail greater not lower cost. Reasons for Recognition of the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council 5 4.1 The TSRA’s support for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council to receive representative body recognition is given for the following reasons:(a) It is fundamental to the regulatory and governance framework of the TSRA that the organisation be responsive to the needs and aspirations of the Torres Strait Islander and Aboriginal People of the region. The members of the TSRA are directly elected by those people. In supporting the proposal the TSRA is acting on the representations of its constituents and RNTBCs. (b) The Torres Strait region is now operating largely in a post-determination environment. As RNTBCs are now well established, their focus is on the actions that can be taken to leverage native title into grants of other interests in land and waters (such as land title grants under the Torres Strait Islander Land Act 1991 (Qld) (“TSILA”) and the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 (Qld)) (“ALA”). Grants of that kind can coexist with native title, are able to be held by an RNTBC (ensuring a single land title/native title holder) and are more amenable to economic development initiatives. RNTBCs accordingly seek more direct involvement in a representative body which will directly aid them in those transactions. (c) RNTBCs are also now focused on achieving their own social and economic development outcomes for their own common law native title holders. These are matters which appropriately involve greater direct control by RNTBCs of both representative body functions and its resourcing. (d) It is important that the individual capacity and capability of RNTBCs be increased to enable them to do as much as possible themselves in realising the aspirations of their common law native title holders. In addition, the exercise and administration of native title (such as requirements and procedures under Rule Books, traditional law, and Aialan Kastom), makes a more direct connection between RNTBCs and their representative body desirable. An RNTBC controlled representative body will better enable skills transfer and upskilling between the representative body and RNTBCs. (e) It is appropriate that in the exercise of native title and the realisation of the opportunities it gives rise to, there be greater independence and autonomy for RNTBCS. (f) The extent of post-determination matters in the Torres Strait region (including transfers under the TSILA and the ALA), mean that an ordering and prioritisation of representative body assistance is often needed between RNTBCs. It is preferable that decisions about the allocation of resources and the prioritisation of transactions be more directly decided by RNTBCs themselves through a representative body controlled by them. (g) The TSRA performs many functions additional to the representative body function of its NTO. A separate representative body will be better able to focus exclusively on serving the native title and related needs of RNTBCs. 6 5. 4.2 The TSRA has already supported the aspirations of RNTBCs for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council to assume representative body status through its correspondence to FaCHSIA dated 20 November 2012. It also made representations to that effect at the review team consultation session on Horn Island on 10 July 2013. The TSRA suggests that a working group be established involving the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council, the TSRA and FaCHSIA to examine the statutory requirements, logistics and other arrangements for a change of representative body recognition. 4.3 Apart from cultural heritage repatriation measures, both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultural heritage issues are subject to primary legislative regulation by the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2003 (Qld) (“ACHA”) and the Torres Strait Islander Cultural Heritage Act 2003 (Qld) (“TSICHA”). 4.4 Although the law recognises native title and cultural heritage as separate and distinct legal interests, the ACHA and the TSICHA create statutory linkages between them. For example, an RNTBC is deemed to be the party with whom consultation, agreement-making and other cultural heritage compliance measures must be taken. Furthermore, the legislation enables ILUAs to be used to address both native title and cultural heritage compliance matters. The template Infrastructure and Housing ILUA provides outcomes, administered by RNTBCs, on both matters. 4.5 If the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council assumes representative body status for native title matters in the Torres Strait, there is some logic that it should also assume the TSRA’s cultural heritage function. Issues to be Addressed for Change of Torres Strait Representative Body 5.1 The Review Team’s report to the Minister must identify that, for the Torres Strait, a very specific recommendation for reform has been proposed by RNTBCs and supported by the TSRA. That is for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council, instead of the TSRA, to be recognised as the Native Title Representative Body for the region. 5.2 It may be that this will constitute something of an anomaly to other review recommendations. However it is justified by the particular and unique circumstances of the Torres Strait region as set out in this submission. 5.3 It is also acknowledged that the NTA prescribes requirements and processes for representative body recognition by the Commonwealth Minister6. Nonetheless, the statutory process begins with the Commonwealth Minister inviting applications from eligible bodies for recognition and there appears to be no reason why that could not occur on a special basis for the Torres Strait separate to recognition and re-recognition processes for other representative body areas in Australia. 5.4 Some issues identified by the TSRA on a preliminary basis for a working group to consider are as follows:(a) 6 Requirements under the NTA and any Commonwealth policy relating to recognition by the Commonwealth Minister of the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council as the representative body for the Torres Strait region. Part 11 Division 2 of the NTA. 7 5.5 6. (b) The requirements for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council to be an eligible body for that purpose under the NTA. (c) Change management arrangements as between the TSRA/NTO and the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council. (d) Transitional arrangements as between the TSRA/NTO and the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council regarding ongoing matters. (e) A management structure for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council. (f) Assessing the representative body area for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council as the new representative body. (g) Funding and financial management requirements and systems for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council. (h) Professional and support staffing and other representative body service requirements for the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council. The TSRA seeks to work with RNTBCs and FaCHSIA, through a dedicated working group, to address these issues as soon as possible. Conclusion 6.1 In addition to the key submission points contained in this letter, Annexure 5 addresses the specific discussion points raised by the review discussion paper. 6.2 The fundamental submissions are:(a) The Torres Strait Sea and Land Council be recognised by the Commonwealth Minister as a new Native Title Representative Body for the Torres Strait region in place of the TSRA. (b) Under no circumstances can there be a rationalisation/amalgamation between a Torres Strait specific representative body and representative bodies for other areas of Australia. Should you require any further information please contact John Ramsay. 8 ANNEXURE 1 Map Showing Boundary of Torres Strait Representative Body Area 9 ANNEXURE 2 Native Title Bodies in the Torres Strait Region (as at 3 September 2013) A. Native Title Representative Bodies/Service Providers 1. Torres Strait Regional Authority through its Native Title Office. B. Registered Native Title Bodies Corporate 1. Badu Ar Mua Migi Lagal Corporation 2. Dauanalgaw Corporation 3. Erubam Le Traditional Land and Sea Owners Corporation 4. Garboi Corporation 5. Gebaralgal Corporation 6. Goemulgaw Corporation 7. Kaurareg Native Title Aboriginal Corporation 8. Kulkalgal Corporation RNTBC 9. Magani Lagaugal Corporation 10. Malu Ki’ai Corporation 11. Maluilgal Corporation 12. Masigalgal Corporation 13. Maulgal Corporation 14. Mer Gedkem Le Corporation 15. Mura Badulgal Corporation 16. Porumalgal Corporation 17. Saibai Mura Buway Corporation 18. Ugar Kem Le Ged Zeuber Er Kep Le Corporation 19. Wakyama Corporation 20. Warraberalgal Corporation Note: The Torres Strait Sea Claim (Part B) is still to be determined as there is an overlap in sea claim areas between that claim, Kaurareg People #1 (QUD266/2008), Kaurareg People #2 (QUD267/2008), and Gudang Yadhaykenu People #1 (QUD269/2008). C. Native Title Determinations 1. Badu (Badu Islanders) #1 (QUD6078/1998) 2. Erubam Le (Darnley Islanders) #1 (QUD6036/1998) 10 3. Kaurareg People (Mipa, Tarilag, Yeta, Damaralag) (QUD6027/1998) 4. Kaurareg People (Murulag #1) (QUD 6024/1998) 5. Kaurareg People (Murulag #2) (QUD6026/1998) 6. Kaurareg People (Ngurupai) (QUD6023/1998) 7. Kaurareg People (Zuna) (QUD6025/1998) 8. Mabuiag Islanders #1 (QUD6062/1998) 9. People of Boigu Islander #2 (QUD6199/1998) 10. People of Dauan Island #1 (QUD6248/1998) 11. People of Masig (Yorke Islanders) #1 (QUD6068/1998) 12. People of Warraber (Sue Islanders) #2 (QUD6073/1998) 13. Poruma People (QUD6087/1998) 14. Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim (Party A) (QUD6040/2001) 15. Ugar (Stephen Islanders) #1 (QUD6076/1998) 16. Waier and Dowar Islands (QUD6204/1998) 17. Yam Islanders / Tudalaig Combined (QUD6052/1998) Note: There are more RNTBs than determinations because the Kaurareg Native Title Aboriginal Corporation is the RNTBC for multiple determination areas. D. Native Title Claims (active) 1. Kaurareg People #1 (QUD266/2008) represented by external legal representative 2. Kaurareg People #2 (QUD267/2008) represented by external legal representative 3. Kaurareg People #3 (QUD262/2010) represented by external legal representative 4. Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim (Part B) (QUD6040/2001) 5. Warral & Ului (QUD6005/2002) 6. Kulkalgal People #2 (QUD 98/2007) 11 ANNEXURE 3 TSRA and NTO Functions 1. Along with a number of other special purpose Indigenous entities established by the Australian Government, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Act 2005 (Cth) provides for the TSRA and confers on it a broad range of statutory functions completely separate to the functions and responsibilities of a Native Title Representative Body. Furthermore, the legislation empowers the Prime Minister to confer a departmental function on the TSRA7. 2. Through the implementation of its functions the TSRA, other than in its Native Title Representative Body role, essentially formulates, coordinates and implements a whole range of government programs across the region. All of them are directed to furthering the social, economic and cultural development of Torres Strait Islanders and Aboriginal people living in the region. 3. Uniquely, the Torres Strait region and consequently the Native Title Representative Body function of the TSRA, includes both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander traditional owner groups8. The Torres Strait Region is made up of the following island cluster groups: Northern Cluster (Boigu Island, Dauan Island and Saibai Island). Eastern Cluster (Erub Island, Mer Island and Ugar Island). Western Cluster (St Pauls and Kubin communities on Moa Island, Badu Island, Mabuiag Island). Central Cluster (Masig Island, Poruma Island, Warraber Island and Iama Island). Southern Cluster (Thursday Island, Horn Island, Prince of Wales and Hammond Islands). Northern Peninsula Area 4. The policies of the TSRA are determined by a board of members elected by Torres Strait Islander and Aboriginal people resident in the region. 5. The NTO reports on the Native Title Representative Body functions of the TSRA to the TSRA through the TSRA’s management structure. However the, NTO takes instructions on pre-determination matters directly from native title claim groups and applicants as appropriate. The NTO takes instructions from RNTBCs on postdetermination matters. 7 Section 142AA of the ATSI Act. The Southern Division largely comprises the traditional lands and adjoining waters of the Kaurareg People who are Aboriginal. The four other Island groups which comprise the traditional lands of Torres Strait Islanders are the region’s Northern Division (Boigu, Dauan, Saibai), Eastern Islands (Erub, Mer, Ugar), Western Division (St Pauls and Kubin on Moa Island, Badu, Mabuiag), and Central Division (Masig, Poruma, Warraber and Iama). 8 12 6. The NTO may brief external advisors where there are capacity constraints in-house, external technical expertise is required and where required on account of conflict of interest issues. 7. The number of individual transactions involved in its Native Title Representative Body function are considerable. Annexure 4 lists only the broad classes of predetermination and post-determination matters. When individual transactions under each of those classes are ranged against all of the RNTBCs, the native title determinations and the ongoing native title claims listed in Annexure 2, there is a substantial Native Title Representative Body workload. 8. The NTO is currently supported by the TSRA from its annual financial appropriation unlike other Native Title Representative Bodies which rely upon a funding grant provided by FaCHSIA. Unlike other Native Title Representative Body regions, there is essentially no future act work in the region which involves private projects and private proponents able to meet or contribute to representative body/RNTBC costs. Although there is currently a large body of future act work in the region, it relates almost entirely to public infrastructure and social housing projects of the Australian Government, the Queensland Government and the two local governments for the region9. 9. The resourcing constraints of the NTO, and through it the RNTBCs, has been made known to all levels of government. Through a template Torres Strait Infrastructure and Housing ILUA proposal, the region’s native title bodies, the Queensland Government and the Torres Strait Island Regional Council are close to reaching agreement on, amongst other things, a schedule of fees for service under section 60AB of the NTA for future act matters which will be covered by the ILUA. 10. However no level of government has to date been prepared to meet the specific Native title Representative Body/RNTBC costs for the provision of legal and other expert assistance to RNTBCs on future act matters as is commonly done by private proponents of private projects in other representative body areas in Australia. This is left entirely to the TSRA to pay for this or risk RNTBCs to be placed at serious disadvantage during negotiations with well resourced government departments. 11. The total cost of providing Native title Representative Body services in respect of predetermination and post-determination matters is particularly high in the Torres Strait region. This is due to a number of factors including the number of precedent making cases and future act innovations which the region has pioneered. Current examples include the appeal to the High Court of Australia regarding the Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim10, the template Infrastructure and Housing ILUA and the “transfer” of a Queensland Government held Indigenous reserve on Mer Island and Dauar Island to Torres Strait Islander Freehold under the TSILA in December 2012. 12. A proper understanding of the Native Title Representative Body functions in the Torres Strait must involve an appreciation of the particularly high “cost of business” in the region. Prominent are travel costs associated with charter flights between the Islands of the Torres Strait and between the Torres Strait and regional centres on the mainland. It should be noted that regulatory consultation and consent requirements for post-determination body corporate ILUAs11, alone require extensive travel 9 Torres Strait Island Regional Council and the Torres Shire Council. Akiba on behalf of the Torres Strait Regional Seas Claim Group v Commonwealth. 11 Regulation 8 of the Regulations and RNTBC Rule Books. 10 13 between the Islands in the region and between the region and the mainland. Many common law native title holders for ILUA areas reside in mainland centres. 13. A major challenge for the NTO is the prioritisation of numerous pre-determination and post-determination matters requiring simultaneous assistance to multiple RNTBCs, particularly having regard to the resourcing constraints which exist at any one time. 14. A further challenge is the seemingly unending process of statutory change on matters specific to the Torres Strait, the complexity of Torres Strait specific laws and the volume of transactions which those laws involve. Although Annexure 4 details the broad classes of matters which a Torres Strait Native Title Representative Body must deal with, the following are just some of the more diverse matters the NTO is currently working on: The NTO provides a major role advising and assisting RNTBCs on matters relating to the roll-out of the National Partnership Agreement on Remote Indigenous Housing. This includes social housing lease transactions under TSILA for multiple communities, separate social housing ILUAs to enable the valid grant of social housing leases and comprehensive consultation and consent processes for each ILUA to meet the requirements of the Regulation and individual RNTBC Rule Books. Individual project ILUAs to which RNTBC’s are parties for a wide range of Australian Government, Queensland Government, local government and essential service infrastructure. Current examples include ILUAs for IBIS stores, Telstra telecommunication facilities, Ergon Energy and AQIS facilities. Other future act processes (e.g under section 24HA and section 24KA of the NTA) under the NTA in respect of other discrete projects. For example, joint Australian Government/Queensland Government seawall projects currently proposed for six outer Islands. Cultural heritage compliance processes under the ACHA and the TSICHA for discrete projects such as cultural heritage agreements and consultations. The development of a template Torres Strait Infrastructure and Housing ILUA involving all RNTBCs and two levels of government with a view to achieving future act process efficiencies for infrastructure and housing projects and better compensation outcomes for RNTBCs. Ongoing case management by the Federal Court of Australia for all remaining native title claims in the region, including at present, mediation processes to resolve remaining claim overlaps. Establishing a new RNTBC for purposes of the determination of the Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim which was the subject of a successful appeal decision from the High Court of Australia in August 2013. Instructions from the Kaurareg RNTBC to examine a prospective application to the Federal Court of Australia for orders changing aspects of its existing determinations of native title. Development of a strategy on ways to leverage social and economic outcomes from native title. Current examples include a strategy for the RNTBC for Mer Island and Dauar Island to assume direct management of the 14 social housing stock on those Islands (possibly in joint venture with a not-forprofit registered housing provider) and fishing enterprise opportunities out of the High Court’s Regional Sea Claim decision. Engaging in the process for policy development by the Queensland Government in respect of its proposal for Freehold Title in Indigenous Communities, including a submission in response to its initial discussion paper. Advising on the substantial implications to RNTBCs of new laws for dealing with so-called Katter leases and Katter lease applications under the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Land Holding Act 2013 (Qld). 15 ANNEXURE 4 Pre-determination and Post-determination matters in the TSRA Area Pre-Determination Matters Assisting and representing Traditional Owner groups with the preparation and prosecution of new native title claims. Indigenous land use agreements developed in conjunction with determinations of native title claims. Indigenous land use agreements developed for particular future acts or classes of future acts (project ILUAs). Assistance with all other native title processes under Part 2 Division 3 of the Native Title Act 1993 (Cth) in relation to particular future acts. Assisting registered native title claimants and native title claim groups with the native title implications of numerous different classes of land tenure transactions including those under the Land Act 1994 (Qld), the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 (Qld) (particularly for the Kaurareg People who are Aboriginal), the Torres Strait Islander Land Act 1991 (Qld) and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Land Holding Act 2013 (Qld). Compliance processes for activities subject to the Torres Strait Islander Cultural Heritage Act 2003 (Qld). Note that under this legislation, pre-determination a registered native title claimant is the relevant “Torres Strait Islander Party” with whom consultation and agreements must be made for compliance purposes. Incorporation of RNTBC’s and associated assistance in preparation for the making of determinations. Post-Determination Matters Assisting RNTBCs with the “transfer” process under the ALA and the TSILA. A “transfer” involves the revocation of a Deed of Grant in Trust or Indigenous reserve which is held by a local government or the Queensland Government as trustee, and replaces this with a grant of Aboriginal Freehold or Torres Strait Islander Freehold to an RNTBC on trust for the common law native title holders. This inalienable Aboriginal Freehold and Torres Strait Islander Freehold coexists with native title but is a form of land title that can be utilised for social and economic development purposes, such as being leased to third parties. Indigenous land use agreements developed for particular future acts or classes of future acts (project ILUAs). Assistance with all other native title processes under Part 2 Division 3 of the Native Title Act 1993 (Cth) in relation to particular future acts. Assisting registered native title claimants and native title claim groups with the native title implications of numerous classes of land tenure transactions including those under the Land Act 1994 (Qld), the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 (Qld) and Torres Strait Islander Land Act 1991 (Qld) 16 Post-transfer, where an RNTBC holds Aboriginal Freehold or Torres Strait Islander Freehold it itself is the grantor for land tenure transactions under the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 and the Torres Strait Islander Land Act 1991. Such transactions include the negotiation, grant and registration of leases and other interests in land such as licences and easements. These transactions involve a commercial negotiation on consideration (i.e lease rental) and other terms as between the RNTBC (as grantor) and the third party grantee. As grantor, the RNTBC also generally prepares the land tenure instrument (e.g the lease) and may also need to complete a regulatory approval process for the transaction (e.g obtaining Ministerial consent). Transactions under the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Land Holding Act 2013 (Qld). Elements of these transactions include the publication of a “trust area notice”, applications by relevant Traditional Owners for publication of a “lease entitlement notice”, appeals to the Land Court against refusal to publish lease entitlement notices, applications for “hardship certificates” in certain circumstances, surrenders of lease entitlements in certain circumstances and the grant of a so-called “Katter lease”. The RNTBC has both direct and indirect responsibilities in respect of these transactions. They include addressing native title where a lease is finally granted and assisting its members (the applicants) with the application process. The law on these matters has just been reformed by the Queensland Government. Its implications for RNTBCs and their members in the Torres Strait region are considerable. The Queensland Government is also proposing reforms to the law in respect of the grant of ordinary freehold title in Indigenous communities (i.e grants of alienable freehold title to individuals under the Land Act 1994 as distinct from grants of inalienable Aboriginal Freehold and Torres Strait Islander Freehold to RNTBCs on behalf of the common law native title holders under the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 or the Torres Strait Islander Land Act 1991). The process for such grants envisaged by the Queensland Government’s discussion paper have a considerable RNTBC involvement. Compliance processes for activities subject to the Torres Strait Islander Cultural Heritage Act 2003 (Qld). Note that under this legislation, post-determination an RNTBC is the relevant “Torres Strait Islander Party” with whom consultation and agreements must be made for compliance purposes. Post-determination matters relating to determinations of native title including applications to the Federal Court to amend determinations and advice on all aspects of the interpretation and application of determinations. Post-determination advice and assistance on all aspects of RNTBC legal operation and administration including matters arising under their Rule Books (such as consultation and consent processes for ILUAs, dispute resolution in respect of land disputes, membership issues, board issues, general governance issues etc). Statutory compensation applications in respect of past acts and both valid and invalid future acts. 17 ANNEXURE 5 TSRA’s Response to Discussion Points Discussion Point 1: Roles and functions of native title representative bodies/native title service providers What current activities of each NTRB/NTSP respond to statutory obligations under the Native Title Act 1993 (Cth) (NTA) or regulations and what non-statutory work is undertaken? 1. Statutory obligations Key statutory functions for the TSRA are listed in Annexure 4 of the TSRA’s submission. Other main functions of representative bodies are:(a) Facilitation and assistance. (b) Certification of applications for determinations of native title, and applications for registration of Indigenous Land Use Agreements. (c) Dispute resolution. (d) Notification of people who hold or may hold native title of certain notices relating to land or waters. (e) Agreement making. (f) Internal review, provide a process for registered native title bodies corporate, native title holders, and persons who may hold native, to seek review by the representative body of its decisions and actions. A key aspect of exercising these functions is to provide assistance to native title claims and holders to:- 2. (a) Make applications under the NTA (including claimant and compensation applications). (b) Respond to proposed activity and development on land or waters that may affect native title rights (known as “future acts”). (c) Negotiate Indigenous Land Use Agreements (ILUAs). (These are voluntary and legally binding agreements that are made between one or more groups, and others, about the use and management of land or waters). Non-statutory obligations Key non-statutory functions are listed in Annexure 4 of the TSRA’s submission. Other non-statutory functions that the TSRA undertakes include but are not limited to the following:- 18 (a) Project Management such as managing the project cycle including planning, time length, resources and logistics. (b) Developing committed and cohesive work teams. (c) Developing effective communication processes. (d) Managing stakeholders effectively including stakeholder expectations. (e) Community engagement. (f) Conflict management. (g) Pursuing opportunities for funding. (h) Logistic management. (i) Developing processes and structures for consultation and decision making appropriate for an RNTBC. (j) Supporting native title holders and exploring and developing social and economic development opportunities. What factors impact on the focus of NTRB/NTSP activity (e.g State and Commonwealth Government policies and native title holder needs)? Key factors are set out in paragraph 3.3 of the TSRA’s submission. Other key factors that impact the focus of TSRA’s activities include:(a) The numerous levels of government and government agencies operating in the Torres Strait region and having to facilitate cooperation between the various levels of government. (b) The remoteness of the region and the Island location of all of the RNTBCs. (c) The number of RNTBCs that the TSRA is assisting and the limited capacity of the RNTBCs. Each RNTBC has a different capacity and requires a different level of assistance. (d) State and Commonwealth Departments making arrangements to engage with the RNTBCs directly without understanding the remoteness of the region and not informing the TSRA of the arrangements. The TSRA usually needs to make and resource the logistical arrangements in response to State or Commonwealth department ILUAs, consultations or other proposals. What is the relative importance of these activities and the relative scale of the resources deployed to undertake these activities? The TSRA expends a lot of its resources on the logistical costs associated with engaging with the various RNTBCs in performing its Native Title Representative Body functions. Considering the remoteness and the value of land to small island communities, it is important to ensure that any project which impacts on land and native title rights and 19 interests are deal with in a process that provides full prior and informed consent with a view to maximise any returns to the community and Traditional Owners. The TSRA at times is unable to provide assistance to RNTBCs because of availability of staff and limitations on its other resources. Have these activities been subject to any trends or recent changes? The main trend is the rapidly growing demand for Native Title Representative Body services in respect of post-determination matters and the declining demand in respect of services for pre-determination matters. Full details are contained in Annexure 4 of the TSRA’s submission. The areas of potential movement (increasing and decreasing) in demand for services in the short and medium term, include:(a) Continuing to ensure appropriate and effective representation for all RNTBCs and implementing the best possible governance model for RNTBCs in the Torres Strait. (b) Increased demand for interaction of RNTBCs with government departments. (c) Increased requests for assistance around RNTBC skills and capacity development and economic and social development. What are the main areas where the NTRBs/NTSPs are unable to meet current demands for their services? Why? (a) NTRBs are often not in a position to compete in the current labour market with other employers, primarily because they cannot offer salary packages which are commensurate with those offered in both the public and private sectors. This lack of competitiveness is exacerbated by the high cost of living, including rental accommodation in the Torres Strait region. The remoteness of the region is also an issue for recruitment and retention of staff. (b) The TSRA receives requests from RNTBCs for assistance with economic and social development proposals. The focus of the TSRA is native title and related aspects of legal compliance. However, as government departments increase their presence and programs in the Torres Strait region, RNTBCs and their communities are increasingly asking for opportunities for economic and social development. Unfortunately, NTRBs are not provided with adequate resources to assist with these matters. What is the potential growth/decline in demand for services in the short to medium term? (a) The growth is in respect of all of the post-determination matters listed in Annexure 4. There is a relative decline in respect of pre-determination matters. Overall, as between both pre-determination and postdetermination matters, there is a steady increase in demand for services. 20 (b) In the short to medium term the TSRA anticipates a decline in its Native Title Representative Body service concerning pre-determination matters. The TSRA is currently providing legal representation and assistance to Torres Strait Islanders in respect of the remaining claimant applications in the Torres Strait region and Part B of a combined Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim. The TSRA anticipates that the majority of the remaining claims will be resolved through consent determinations. (c) The TSRA anticipates that there will be an increase in utilisation of its agreement making functions and also providing assistance to RNTBCs on a wide range of other land dealing matters. The TSRA has made major efforts to finalise a regional template infrastructure and housing ILUA for native title and cultural heritage purposes for all social housing and public works for the outer Islands. How much of NTRB/NTSP resources are taken up by their claims activities versus post-determination activities? There are smaller allocations of resources for pre-determination matters i.e. focusing on finalising the remaining native title claims and, progressing Part B of the Torres Strait Regional Sea Claim. The majority of requests for assistance to the TSRA are for activities that are either directly or indirectly related to the full range of post-determination matters with a particular emphasis on those which can deliver economic development opportunities. There is a growing demand for strategic planning and commercial negotiation assistance. Discussion Point 2: Agreement making What are the current challenges to supporting native title holders in relation to agreements post-determination? (a) Many of the matters set out in paragraph 3.3 of the submission involve challenges in relation to agreements post-determination. It should be noted that in the Torres Strait RNTBCs are involved in many more classes of agreements than just native title agreements. Details of the full range of post-determination transactions involving agreementmaking are contained in Annexure 4. Other challenges include the following:(i) In the Torres Strait a significant factor impacting on the TSRA’s ability to support native title holders in relation to agreements is the remoteness of the region and capacity limitations of most RNTBCs. In some parts of the Torres Strait it is difficult to get a telephone signal. These circumstances can make it difficult to contact and engage with RNTBCs and communities in a cost effective way. In order for the TSRA to obtain instructions, visits to the Islands are often necessary. This adds to the costs of the negotiation process. Adequate time and resources are required to properly inform community members and build consensus before major native title decisions are made. (ii) The administrative burdens faced by Native Title Representative Bodies when they are not provided with any additional funding to adjust to new challenges especially those brought about by the State Government in transferring DOGIT’s to RNTBC’s and 21 expecting to shift the cost of this to the Native Title Representative Body and the RNTBC. (iii) Communication of information, both within the native title group and between native title holders and governments/external stakeholders, needs to be culturally appropriate and undertaken in a manner which assists RNTBCs make informed decisions. (iv) Although native title has been determined in the Torres Strait region for many years, the RNTBCs and common law native title holders have had limited opportunity to develop a strategic plan on a community by community basis. Such plans would play an important role in identifying and planning how to address the full range of post-determination matters RNTBCs confront. Each Island community has ideas about how they would like to pursue social and economic development. However, they need support and resourcing to translate concepts into practical projects and real outcomes. (v) Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples face a number of barriers to achieving effective and beneficial agreements, including inadequate skill levels in many cases, chronic resourcing deficiency and inadequate access to expert advice. (vi) Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People continue to face barriers to reaching just and equitable agreements, such as inadequate financial resources and legislative barriers within the native title system. Conflict exists within communities which can also be an added barrier. What are the practical differences between certified and non-certified ILUAs and what are the implications of these differences? In the Torres Strait all ILUAs currently being entered into by RNTBCs are body corporate ILUAs in respect of which certification requirements do not apply. However before an RNTBC can enter into a body corporate ILUA it must complete regulatory consent processes under the Regulation and its own Rule Book In the Torres Strait, the TSRA provides legal advice to RNTBCs for all ILUA negotiations. Under the Regulation an RNTBC must consult with and obtain the consent of the affected common law holders. This requirement is satisfied if a document is signed by authorised members of the RNTBC for the ILUA area certifying the consultation and consent has been properly undertaken. The TSRA assists RNTBCs meet the regulatory requirements for consultation and consent and advises RNTBC members before they certify that consultation and consent requirements have been properly completed. Should NTRBs/NTSPs have a stronger or broader role in agreement making postdetermination? The level of involvement of an NTRB in agreement making should be dependent on the RNTBC. Where the RNTBC has the capacity to undertake agreement making itself then it should be given that opportunity. The involvement of an NTRB may also be limited by the nature of the agreement. If the NTRB does not have the necessary technical skills having 22 regard to the nature of the agreement, it might be able to assist the RNTBC by resourcing an appropriately qualified external professional. Should NTRBs/NTSPs have a stronger or broader role facilitating, or assisting in managing, sustainable use of benefits flowing from agreements and settlement of claims? Again, it depends on the capacity of the RNTBC, the common law holders, the community and the NTRB. Instead of increasing the dependency on an NTRB, more resources should be dedicated to increasing the capacity and capability of RNTBCs themselves so that they can become more self sufficient. In some instances, the involvement of an NTRB at the establishment of an RNTBC, in a mentoring and skills development, can be very beneficial. However, this is again subject to the skill set of NTRB personnel. If so, how could this stronger or broader role be achieved? Should it be subject to any limitations? Any additional involvement of an NTRB in agreement making post-determination should be subject to request from an RNTBC. The NTRB could provide assistance by increasing the capacity of the directors of the RNTBC. In order for a stronger, broader capacity for RNTBCs to be achieved, an NTRB would need to ensure that it has the appropriate skills to provide the up-skilling assistance and the appropriate level of financial resources. Discussion Point 3: Recognition of native title representative bodies What are the current implications, both positive and negative, of having to seek recognition and being covered by the recognition provisions? (a) One of the TSRA’s main submissions is that the Torres Strait Sea and Land Council be recognised, instead of the TSRA, as the representative body for the Torres Strait region. However it is also a key submission that irrespective of what entity is recognised as the NTRB for the Torres Strait, there must be a separate and discrete representative body for the region. (b) Representative bodies are sometimes in conflict with government over native title. It is important, therefore, to maintain as much independence for representative bodies. NTRBs must be free of perceived or actual pressure from government over how they pursue the recognition and protection of native title. NTRBs are already dependant on government for funding and for recognition. It is important that changes to the native title system increase the autonomy of NTRBs. (c) The imposition of limited fixed term recognition periods can increase the workload of representative bodies and at the same time reduce actual resources available to progress native title matters. This is in part because a large amount of NTRB time can consumed with applying for re-recognition. Are governance and funding arrangements affected by the recognition provisions? (a) The TSRA directly funds its Native Title Representative Body functions out of its own appropriation whereas other NTRBs are funded from an allocation of funds provided for the native title system as a whole. The 23 government also provides operational and strategic support to these other NTRBs so it can perform their statutory functions in accordance with their approved strategic and operational plans. (b) Short recognition periods undermine the ability of representative bodies to make medium to long-term plans that are essential if representative bodies are to be fully effective. (c) Short recognition periods reinforce the perception that representative bodies are insecure, temporary organisations whose existence is dependent upon Ministerial discretion and political expediency. Consequentially it is very difficult for them to build a profile and operate as respected, long-term organisations in communities. What impact does the possibility of de-recognition have on the operation of NTRBs? (a) A reduction in red-tape by removing the requirement for representative bodies to prepare strategic plans and table their annual reports in Parliament would free up resources within the NTRB to progress its substantive workload (b) De-recognition would representative area. (c) However, de-recognition of an NTRB could also reduce the direct involvement of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people because NTRBs are more likely to have representatives on boards comprised of Traditional Owners. On the other hand, de-recognition could provide an NTRB with the ability to assist its constituents with broader issues than just native title. make it easier to change an NTRBs Discussion Point 4: Rationalising of representative bodies / service provider What anticipated financial and non-financial costs and benefits would be associated with rationalisation? (a) A potential benefit of rationalisation is the pooling of professional staff with appropriate skills and expertise in native title. (b) However, in the case of the Torres Strait region, that potential benefit is completely outweighed by the disadvantages (both financial and nonfinancial) which would be involved in amalgamation of the Torres Strait Native Title Representative Body with Native Title Representative Bodies for other areas of Australia. Full details of the TSRAs submission on this issue are contained in paragraph 3 of the submission. Could an NTRB/NTSP operate effectively in more than one state or territory? (a) Differing needs across geographical locations make it completely impractical to have a centralised organisation, particularly in the case of the Torres Strait. It was noted in the discussion paper that there are varying sizes of representative bodies across Australia, because of the different levels of concentration of native title holders across Australia. It becomes an issue of administrative capacity whether it would be more 24 effective in some regions over others to have different geographically sized operations. However a representative body with responsibility for the Torres Strait could not administratively function effectively if it were located outside the region. (b) Another issue that would impact on a NTRBs ability to operate in more than one State is ensuring that it has a comprehensive understanding of the different legislation in each State impacting on RNTBCs and differing State government policies and procedures. How would barriers associated with political, historical, operational, cultural and institutional factors be overcome to achieve any rationalism? (a) A NTRB would need to have staff with experience and expertise in the various jurisdictions including an ability to navigate through the numerous pieces of legislation that impact on native title bodies and an ability to build a relationship with very different Indigenous communities. (b) It would need to be ensured that any such NTRB had adequate offices or contact points in the region to provide a full community presence to remain connected to the issues specific to the region as opposed to having just a centralised office in a major regional centre. (c) The board of the NTRB would need to have representatives from all the communities it serves. In what circumstances is a rationalisation of NTRBs/NTSPs likely to enhance the effectiveness and efficiency of service delivery to native title holders and claimants? For the reasons given in paragraph 3 of the submission, there are no circumstances in which a rationalisation of the Native Title Representative Body for the Torres Strait region would enhance the effectiveness and efficiency of its service delivery to RNTBCs, native title claimants and native title holders in that region. What measures might enhance the ability of NTRBs/NTSPs to collaborate on facilitation and assistance for traditional owner groups, for example, across jurisdiction? (a) Introduction of funding for NTRBs to undertake secondments to other NTRBs and sharing knowledge and experiences. (b) Sharing of research where relevant, for example native title claims that share a common border. (c) Engaging in more dispute resolution outside of the Court process where there are disputes over country i.e. overlapping native title claims. Discussion Point 5: Prescribed bodies corporate and registered native title bodies corporate In what areas do PBCs/RNTBCs need the most support? (a) Many RNTBCs including the majority of them in the Torres Strait still lack basic functionality and administrative capacity (i.e. office space, 25 computer, reliable email access, phone access or printers). This severely inhibits their ability to achieve effective governance. Those RNTBCs rely on the resources available through the NTRB and local council offices. (b) Administrative capacity needs to be addressed at different levels, both at the individual level of directors and community members and at an RNTBC corporate level in terms of skill sets, business systems, infrastructure and human resources. (c) The needs of RNTBCs differ greatly, depending on factors such as location and potential for future act activity within an RNTBC area. In areas where there is minimal private proponent future act work and no economic basis for the generation of income, government resourcing is essential. (d) The extent to which RNTBCs need support depends on the capacity of the RNTBC and the environment in which it operates. However, even those RNTBCs that are fully functioning often find it difficult to meet all of their statutory functions and operational requirements. Native title holders are often forced to compromise their native title rights and certainly cannot fully realise their native title opportunities. (e) RNTBCs don’t have adequate resources to perform their functions. This is the primary concern of native title holders in relation to the operation of RNTBCs, rather than any problem inherent in the functions of RNTBCs themselves. What legislative and administrative changes, if any, might improve the capacity of PBCs/RNTBCs to fulfil their functions and responsibilities? (a) RNTBC governance structures and processes need to match traditional values and practices to ensure legitimacy and secure the mandate of community members. The processes imposed by the Corporations (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander) Act 2006 can be incompatible with traditional decision-making. (b) RNTBCs must be provided with adequate resourcing if they are to fulfil their statutory obligations and achieve their objectives. The issue of resourcing is especially critical where a determination of native title is not accompanied by agreements with external stakeholders such as mining companies and state/territory/local governments that provide an on-going source of income. (c) The level of government resourcing should reflect the particular circumstances of the RNTBC, such as the location, membership, cultural and language requirements, and the extent to which the RNTBC may be required to deal with additional legislation in relation to its lands and resources. (d) Improve the ability of RNTBCs to access and utilise existing sources of assistance, including from government and non-government organisations. 26 (e) All official correspondence and dealings with the native title holding group must go through its RNTBC. Should incorporation (i.e. creation of an RNTBC) be required for all native title holders? (a) While it may be beneficial in some cases, it may not be for all. There may be instances where an unincorporated body may be just as beneficial. For example in areas where there is not a strong income stream generated from private proponent projects to help sustain complex corporate structures and functions. (b) The administrative and legal capacity of an RNTBC is dependent on adequate resourcing. Resourcing allocations must recognise that many RNTBCs operate in remote regions and have members who live in disparate areas. This means that undertaking statutory functions such as holding effective annual general meetings is expensive or very difficult. (c) In the Torres Strait region RNTBCs for the most part, are without income or readily available assets. (d) Officers of RNTBCs are responsible for a significant amount of voluntary work in sustaining the basic functioning of an RNTBC. The capacity of the individuals in these positions often needs to be improved to ensure they understand their responsibilities. However, there is no transitional period to allow adequate time for capacity building. Once the RNTBC is established the directors are immediately responsible. Discussion Point 6: Native title representative bodies / service provider support for prescribed bodies corporate and registered native title body corporate How do NTRBs/NTSPs currently support pre-determination activities by PBCs in areas such as agreement making and capacity development? Does this support lead to capacity building post-determinations? RNTBCs are usually established by the NTRB just before a determination of native title is made. This often results in minimal opportunities for the RNTBC to become experienced in agreement making. Up until the making of the determination, it is often the registered native title claimants who are involved in negotiations. There is little resourcing available to NTRBs to assist RNTBCs post determination with capacity building, consequently it either does not occur at all or only to a minimal extent. To what extent do NTRBs/NTSPs currently support RNTBCs post-determination and what models does this support follow? The TSRA has established a Support Officer position. The Support Officer assists RNTBCs to meet their minimum legislative obligations under the CATSI Act. In particular the Support Officer provides advice on the conduct of Annual General Meetings, the content of the Rule Book for administration matters, production of general reports and applications for funding. Annexure 4 of the submission contains details of the more important post-determination matters which the TSRA currently supports RNTBCs. It is probably fair to say that it is only the administrative, capacity building and legal support provided by the TSRA which enables 27 RNTBCs to meet their minimum statutory and functionality requirements. additional support is needed for RNTBCs to realise their aspirations. Considerable Why do NTRBs/NTSPs provide post-determination support even after an RNTBC exists and has assumed representative responsibilities for native title holders? Is this support sufficient? NTRBs continue to provide assistance post-determination because native title involves very complex concepts and process that can be impossible to navigate without the appropriate skills and expertise and because there is often no other source of assistance or resourcing. Without continued support from an NTRB, many RNTBCs would likely fail. Are there non-financial constraints to the support that NTRBs/NTSPs can give to RNTBCs post-determination? There is a huge gap between a determination outcome and a community’s social and economic development outcomes, particularly in areas where there is no mineral wealth. The non-financial constraints on NTRB support include the specialist legal and other professional expertise required to address post-determination matters which may not be held in-house to the necessary degree. In remote locations, recruiting staff with the necessary specialist skill sets can be particularly difficult. What costs would be imposed on NTRBs/NTSPs as a result of increased support for RNTBCs? The biggest costs that would be imposed on NTRBs are financial and human/professional resources. NTRBs often have limited capacity and skill sets to further develop RNTBCs post determination on economic and community development matters. However, the impact on financial resources could be minimised if the NTRBs assisted their RNTBCs to partner with non-government organisations for resourcing, professional skills development, skills sharing and development. What other support and relationships do PBCs/RNTBCs draw on and do these represent a viable substitute to NTRBs/NTSPs for some of the services PBCs/RNTBCs may need? There are limited opportunities available for RNTBCs to develop partnerships with nongovernment organisations such as OxFam or Indigenous Community Volunteers for specific projects. Given the complex legislative frameworks within which RNTBCs operate, it is essential they have the capacity to comply with statutory obligations. This includes an ability to identify when external advice on legal or governance issues is required. In addition to the statutory requirements of the NTA, the Regulations and the CATSI Act, RNTBCs have statutory functions under State legislation in relation to alternative land/resource management, cultural heritage processes and a large range of land tenure dealings. Expertise on these matters may be outside the skills or capacity of an NTRB. In these circumstances, private agents need to be engaged. Where do bodies established as part of an alternative settlement, or to facilitate the business of a claim group pre-determination, fit in the picture in terms of support? 28 Legislative, policy and funding frameworks need to adapt to different governance arrangements that are based on local realities. Equally, Indigenous communities need to consider what governance arrangements are likely to enable them to achieve their goals. In areas that experience significant future act related projects, native title holders have been able to successfully establish commercial corporate entities and pursue business opportunities. What are the advantages and disadvantages associated with cost recovery by NTRBs/NTSPs? An advantage of cost recovery by a NTRB is that resources allocated for advancing matters that may have been temporarily used for a specific negotiation/issue can be recovered. Potential disadvantages of cost recovery is that at times not all costs incurred in resolving a matter are able to be recovered. As detailed in Annexure 3, cost recovery from government proponents in the Torres Strait has proved very difficult. Discussion Point 7: Private agents Are there significant differences in the types of native title services provided by private agents compared to NTRBs/NTSPs? Depending on the type of or need of a particular service, there are private agents who have expertise both inside and sometimes more importantly outside the field of native title which are of great benefit to providing services to clients especially in the area of future economic development. The NTRB focus is on providing the services as set out in the NTA, and hence would not be in a position to advise on matters such as business planning and setting up Trusts or generally exploiting the economic opportunities available from Native title outcomes. In recent times, are there differences in cost and outcomes of cases and agreements managed without the involvement of NTRBs/NTSPs? There are limited economic opportunities in the Torres Strait Region with most agreements being entered into with government and other agencies. With next to no financial support being provided to RNTBC’s in the region, they are heavily reliant upon the NTRB for legal and other support since there is no real alternative. Should there be more explicit accountability for the claimant group or its representatives in the Act? Yes, there has been an instance of a group who engaged a private agent themselves and then after a period of some months forwarded all the bills of the private agent to the NTRB expecting the NTRB to pay without question. The group concerned did not engage the NTRB in the process at all. There are concerns that this may become a common occurrence with private agents exploiting the situation for their own benefit. Would there be value in greater regulation of private agents, e.g. a registration system, constraints on private agents undertaking particular activity? Should private 29 agents assisting Indigenous parties be made subject to some of the same standards and obligations as set down for NTRBs/NTSPs under the Act? Yes, often private agents act in a manner that causes division within groups and often only represent a small minority of disaffected people which can seriously affect the progress of native title claims leading to greater costs and even failure of the claim overall. The common assertion is that the private agent is ‘acting upon instructions’ to justify their actions and there is little that a NTRB can do. It is often felt that the private agent is acting in their own interest rather than that of their clients by drawing matters out and charging accordingly for their service. There needs to be standards and obligations imposed upon private agents similar to those imposed upon NTRB’s under the NTA. What costs and benefits would be associated with implementing any legislative or regulatory changes? This would have to be subject to a comprehensive study, however if properly implemented, there would long term benefits. Why do some claim groups choose to pay private lawyers for services they could receive for free from an NTRB/NTSP? Apart from situations where it is a conflict of interest for a NTRB to represent a claim group due to overlapping claims, it is often dissatisfaction with the response from the NTRB regarding their request for assistance or the NTRB may not be in a position due to resources to provide the service required. Sometimes it is due to the fact that they have had prior dealings with the private lawyer and are satisfied with the level of service that has been provided in the past. Some private lawyers have experience in economic and commercial areas which can maximise outcomes for claim groups. 30