Yankton Wyatt Explain the difference between allosteric enzyme and nonallosteric please. 8:22 Marcos Oliveira allosteric enzyme has a sigmoidal behavior 8:22 Julie Benjegerdes are we going to just have to know how to interpret the graph whether it be between different enzymes or Km or Kcat Dr. Oliveira 8:23 Marcos Oliveira yes I will work with you all tomorrow 8:24 Rebeca Jimenez Are we going to be responsible for the Discussion Material listed? 8:24 Marcos Oliveira not the discussion material 8:24 Teri Randall Dr. O I had trouble understanding the shift of the graph to the right. I understood all you said I just cannot figure out how the actual picture of the graph to the shift 8:25 Nkechiamaka Nwosu Could explain mutagensis? 8:25 Teri Randall How to see if there is a shift by looking at that graph 8:26 Marcos Oliveira mutagenesis is an alteration at the genetic level that leads to a change in a amino acid in a protein structure 8:26 Marcos Oliveira What graph are we talking about? Teri Randall the tissue and lung graph 8:26 8:26 %sat vs pO2 8:27 Marcos Oliveira I think you are refering to the oxygen binding curve correct 8:27 Teri Randall yes, sorry 8:27 Marcos Oliveira I also think you are refering to the hemoglobin oxygen binding curve correct 8:27 Teri Randall Yes that is it 8:27 Marcos Oliveira ok the Hb oxygen binding curve changes in response to effectors such as acidic [H+] 8:28 Nathaniel Oyefeso does the myoglobin curve assume the same shape of the hemoglobin curve? 8:28 Marcos Oliveira as the environment becomees more cidic the curve shifts to the right 8:28 Mb is hyperbolic Hb is sigmoidal8:29 Teri Randall Ok, so it's based on the Hb curve 8:29 Marcos Oliveira ok Hb curve what question do you have? 8:29 Teri Randall So we should understand if the environment is acidic then the curve shifts to the right which will increase the %saturation? 8:30 Marcos Oliveira If the question is acidic yes 8:31 Julliane Swick no decrease 8:31 Marcos Oliveira oops correction!!!! 8:31 when the curve shifts to the right due to increase in acidity HB becomes less saturated 8:32 Teri Randall and Mb becomes more saturated?? 8:32 Nathaniel Oyefeso less 8:32 Marcos Oliveira Mb does not alter its behavir with changes in environmental acidity 8:33 Karin Dentino So as H+ concentration increases, and pH drops, the affinity for oxygen decreases and it shifts to the right? Is that correct? 8:33 Marcos Oliveira Yes Ms Dentino 8:34 Teri Randall Thank you 8:34 Nathaniel Oyefeso what alters the behavior of Mb 8:34 Marcos Oliveira Mb is not altered by factors that influence Hb 8:34 Nathaniel Oyefeso thanks 8:35 Adaeze Amuzie so are there any factors that influence Mb or this is beyound the scope of this class? 8:36 Marcos Oliveira no Mb is not responsive to any specific facgtor 8:36 Adaeze Amuzie ok, thanks Dr O :) 8:36 Minh Tran how would the graph look if BPG binded irreversibly? 8:37 Nkechiamaka Nwosu in class you mention the acidity might be due to the metabolic activity in the tissues, is the acidity also caused by the presence of carbon dioxide? 8:37 Marcos Oliveira the molecule does not bind irreversibly. 8:38 Sonya Valle So basically it goes toward the direction of acidity? 8:38 Marcos Oliveira CO2 and metabolic activity contribute to increase in acidic in tissues 8:38 Minh Tran but if it did? because the hw had a question similar to that 8:38 Marcos Oliveira ok it BPG were irreversibly bound Hb would be permanently shifted to the right 8:39 Nkechiamaka Nwosu thanks Dr. O 8:40 Rebeca Jimenez Are you going to release the answers to the even numbered homework problems? Marcos Oliveira even problems will be posted after I finish with chat session Minh Tran 8:40 8:40 thanks 8:40 Rebeca Jimenez thanks 8:40 Beth Williams When you say shifted to the right does that mean that all the oxygen is bound to hemoglobin? 8:40 Marcos Oliveira no shift to the right mean a less saturated Hb 8:41 Rebeca Jimenez The entire curve is being shifted to the right, not the concentration of O2 8:43 Beth Williams Ok...but if you are looking at the graph you showed us in class today, and you look at the hemoglobin curve, when you look at the curve to the right of the graph it is going up the graph showing that there is more % saturation...which means there is more O2 bound right? 8:43 Nathaniel Oyefeso Dr O can you clarify that please? is saturation and concentration the same thing? 8:46 Marcos Oliveira saturation is % of the Hb sites filled with O2 a number from 0 to 1. 1 meaning sites fully occupied Rebeca Jimenez I was refering to the partial pressure of O2.....used the wrong term 8:48 Francess Uzowulu Okay, so can you now clarify the relationship between pH and saturation please? 8:48 Marcos Oliveira The lower the pH the lower the saturation based on the changes in oxygen binding curve in response to changes in [H=} 8:49 Francess Uzowulu Ohh got it 8:50 Beth Williams So Rebeca..are you saying that you move the entire curve to the right down the pO2 curve...but how does that really change what you're looking at? 8:52 Carla Sorbel Going back to graph about irreversible Hb shifting to the right, that is exactly OPPOSITE of what Anna told us today, so now I'm throughly confused!!!!8:52 Julie Benjegerdes Dr. O, I'm sorry, but I still dont understand what more acidity, or more {H+} has to do with saturation of oxygen 8:52 Rebeca Jimenez That is the effect of BPG on the curve 8:52 Nathaniel Oyefeso how does pressure relate to the concentration of oxyigen? 8:53 given two different values of pO2 which one is more saturated? 8:53 Teri Randall what is irreversible Hb? 8:54 Lilia Esquivel Wouldn't irreversible Hb shift to the left? 8:54 Francess Uzowulu Um I think Anna is actually doing a pretty good job tutoring, my notes correspond accordingly (although I came in for the latter part).. 8:54 Nathaniel Oyefeso true that 8:54 Francess Uzowulu She said shifting to left not the right! check your notes again! 8:55 Carla Sorbel I think she's doing a fantastic job, but I think we're getting left and right mixed up 8:55 Nkechiamaka Nwosu concentration of oxygenbecause oxygen is a gas it is referred to as partial pressure 8:55 Beth Williams Ok...so BPG just shifts the curve to the right to make the pO2 further down the graph at a higher partial pressure? 8:55 Marcos Oliveira BPG does not change partial pressure the molecule response to changes in partial pressure is altered pO2 is simply a variable 8:57 Lilia Esquivel if you have BPG you will release oxygen more freely right? 8:57 Carla Sorbel That's my point, Anna said to the left and Dr. O is saying to the right. 8:58 Jennifer Ma BPG just stimulates Hb molecule depicted by the Hb oxygen binding curve to release O2 and therefore, results in the Hb oxygen binding curve shifting to the right 8:58 Marcos Oliveira if you have BPG it affects the molecule such that it will become less saturated with o2 8:58 Adaeze Amuzie Carla, ur getting it all mixed up! Dr O said BPG fixed irreversable not Hb as Anna discussed 9:00 Julie Benjegerdes so dr. o, when there are more [H+] then it is more acidic which moves the curve to the right meaning less saturated with oxygen 9:01 Carla Sorbel Yep, I think that's what I started out saying, I'M CONFUSED! Marcos Oliveira yes Julie Beth Williams 9:02 9:01 On our syllabus it states that we need to read section 5-2 and it covers microtubles and microfilaments but we haven't covered this in class...is this something we need to understand for the test? 9:02 Teri Randall Can someone tell me what irreversible Hb is??? 9:02 Adaeze Amuzie BPG binding and regular Hb binding are different, one shifts to the right (BPG) and the other to the left 9:03 Marcos Oliveira Ms Williams what I post as reading is for you to read in class we cover essentials the remaining you are responsible 9:03 Julie Benjegerdes so dr. o how does more [H+] have to do with more oxygen saturation? is there some kind of binding thats going on with the H+? 9:04 Beth Williams ok...thank you!!! 9:04 Marcos Oliveira relative to normal Hb BPG shifts the standard curve to the right it needs to because standard Hb needs to be less saturaed with O2 relative to standard 9:04 Nathaniel Oyefeso what group of acid favor acid catalysis 9:09 Marcos Oliveira anything capable of donating a proton 9:10 Adaeze Amuzie @ nathaniel: glu and asp i think (i hope am correct...lol) 9:10 Marcos Oliveira yep correct 9:12 Nathaniel Oyefeso k 9:12 Teri Randall So pretty much all the polar amino acids? 9:12 Lilia Esquivel what about tyr 9:12 and all of the hydroxyl one? 9:12 Nkechiamaka Nwosu what is a nucleophile and an electrophile? 9:12 Marcos Oliveira all AA capable of donating and titratable that have a proton to donate 9:13 Jennifer Ma table 4.1 9:13 Beth Williams Can you please explain how allosteric enzymes work? 9:13 Marcos Oliveira like Hb!! they have quaternary structure and activation of one subunit "elbows" the other into being active 9:15 Margaret Gogola are we going to cover ch 7 tomorrow? 9:16 Beth Williams So they basically communicate with the other molecules to bind to O2 so they are all the same? 9:16 Marcos Oliveira yes we are covering chpt 7 tomorrow the essentials 9:16 Margaret Gogola will what we cover be on this weeks or next week's test? 9:17 Marcos Oliveira You need to think in general terms. We are talking about an enzyme not O2 binding yet all of the behavior mirrow our discussion of Hb 9:17 yes Chpat 7 will be on this test 9:17 Danellie Barrera what determines the most/least conservative amino acid substitution? 9:18 Lilia Esquivel can you explain the importance of the histidine with hemoglobin? 9:18 Margaret Gogola ok thank you 9:18 Marcos Oliveira His coordinates Fe found at the porphorin ring and a second His interacts with the Heme group on the opposite side they are found conserved in both Hb and Mb 9:19 Lilia Esquivel ok 9:20 Danellie Barrera what determines the most/least conservative amino acid substitution? 9:21 Marcos Oliveira conservative mutation is one where shape and property are minimally changed 9:22 Beth Williams When talking about competitive inhibtion, is there something that "trumpts" this or will this competitive enzyme always win? 9:25 Marcos Oliveira not sure I undertand the question. We discuss competitive inibitor which affects enzyme activity 9:26 Beth Williams so when competitive inhibition is present the enzymes work more efficiently or bind more? Marcos Oliveira 9:29 when a competitive inhibitor binds it affects Km 9:30 It prevents natural substrate from binding 9:30 Beth Williams thanks! 9:30 Rebeca Jimenez will we be expected to manipulate the michaelis-menten equation, or just memorize the final equation listed on page 188? [7-21] 9:33 Beth Williams Is cooperative binding done at the FG site? 9:34 Marcos Oliveira no derivation of MM simply how to use it and understanding what Km and kcat mean Rebeca Jimenez k 9:34 Marcos Oliveira in Hb FG plays a role in communication between subunits (cooperativity) Beth Williams :) 9:35 Marcos Oliveira Any last question 9:36 Margaret Gogola do we need to know the G equations 9:38 g products- g reactants...spontaneous...non spontenous? Marcos Oliveira no free energy equations 9:38 Margaret Gogola i remember a little about that fomr discussion 9:39 9:38 9:34 9:34 great :) 9:39 Beth Williams Really quick...what do effectors do? How do they effect the catalytic activity? 9:41 Marcos Oliveira effectors like [H=} in Hb either have an activation effect or inhibitory effect we will discuss this tomorrow 9:42 Beth Williams ok...thanks:) 9:42