/wEPDwUKLTc4MT ed 24309129 Week 5: e-Business Customers and Customer Relations - Discussion Permission Marketing (graded) What is permission marketing and why do you think companies are using this type of marketing? Secondly, do you think that permission marketing is the future? Why or why not? Responses Responses are listed below in the following order: response, author and the date and time the response is posted. Response 417879314,416434 Author 414697574 Opening Thoughts Date/Time 0 Professor Crawford 11/25/2012 7:33:23 AM Hi Guys, Here is some supplemental information about permission marketing http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/2007/11/permission-marketing-is-still-best/ Permission marketing is important to online business operations, but there are a number of things we must consider. Who is going to initiate the discussion about this topic? 417879314 RE: Opening Thoughts 414697574 Richelle Nolte 12/1/2012 11:35:42 PM Customers settle to be aboard in an organization’s marketing actions, typically as an outcome of motivation. Permission marketing is about looking for the customer’s permission prior to involving them in an affiliation and offering something in exchange. 416621902,416977 416434311 RE: Opening Thoughts 414697574 John Scarbrough 11/28/2012 7:24:02 PM Permission marketing is basically you are giving a company or business an opportunity to do direct marketing and selling to you and to gather info in what you may or may not be willing to buy.You are basically market research for them that is free. 416977181,417109 416621902 416434311 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/29/2012 8:12:53 AM John, Does the customer obtain any benefits from permission marketing? 417109938 416977181 416621902 RE: Opening John Scarbrough Thoughts 11/29/2012 9:45:59 PM The customer may get special deals on product or services as an incentive for one thing or another. They also learn about the products or services and in a way they get education to a certain extent on the product that is being sold. 417109938 416977181 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/30/2012 5:23:20 AM John, Yes, when done right, permission marketing can deliver these benefits. 416540344,416621 416286197 RE: Opening Thoughts 414697574 Paul Dees 11/28/2012 1:31:12 PM Permission Marketing can help get your business out to the consumer and your customers if look at it they pay for a lot of our information so they can text us and when we text back to them we have just open the door for them to market their product to us in way we just give them permission to market to our phones. So it is important to the business to have permission marketing and the technology to do this. 416621653,417021 416540344 416286197 RE: Opening Kevin Webb Thoughts 11/28/2012 10:32:13 PM The problem i see with permission marketing is the turn off factor. Yes it helps get name and product recognition out there but it also can be seen as a nuisance to the user of the phone and even if they wanted the product they may be influenced to find a competitor or they ignore the message altogether. Yes it is useful because it does work to a certain degree and it is cost effective advertising but there are risks involved when using it. 417021224,417109 416621653 416540344 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/29/2012 8:12:03 AM Kevin, You get it - when permission marketing becomes a nuisance, we have issues. Excellent critical thinking. 417109859,418140 417021224 416621653 RE: Opening Jo Anne Joseph-Gittens Thoughts 11/29/2012 11:35:39 PM Ed, Here is an excellent analysis of Permission Marketing from blogger, Seth Godin: “Permission marketing is the privilege (not the right) of delivering anticipated, personal and relevant messages to people who actually want to get them. It recognizes the new power of the best consumers to ignore marketing. It realizes that treating people with respect is the best way to earn their attention. … permission marketers understand that when someone chooses to pay attention they are actually paying you with something precious, for there's no way they can get their attention back if they change their mind. Attention becomes an important asset, something to be valued, not wasted. Real permission is different from presumed or legalistic permission. Just because you somehow get my email address doesn't mean you have permission. Just because I don't complain doesn't mean you have permission. Just because it's in the fine print of your privacy policy doesn't mean it's permission either. Real permission works like this: if you stop showing up, people complain, they ask where you went. I got a note from a Daily Candy reader the other day. He was upset because for three days in a row, his Daily Candy newsletter hadn't come. That's permission. Permission is like dating. You don't start by asking for the sale at first impression. You earn the right, over time, bit by bit. One of the key drivers of permission marketing, in addition to the scarcity of attention, is the extraordinarily low cost of dripping to people who want to hear from you. RSS and email and other techniques mean you don't have to worry about stamps or network ad buys every time you have something to say. Home delivery is the milkman's revenge... it's the essence of permission. Permission doesn't have to be formal but it has to be obvious. My friend has permission to call me if he needs to borrow five dollars, but the person you meet at a trade show has no such ability to pitch you his entire resume, even though he paid to get in.” http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/permissionmark.html 417109859 417021224 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/30/2012 5:22:28 AM Jo Ann, Thanks - this is what ethical permission marketing should be. Using permission marketing as a ploy to dump junk into someone's mail box is not what Seth Godin had in mind. 418140251 417021224 RE: Opening Kevin Webb Thoughts 12/2/2012 5:43:25 PM I like the point in the blog about how the marketer must compete for the trust and respect of potential consumers. I also believe that it goes back to the principle of giving customers what they want. As to the point if the marketers are fighting for trust rather than dollars, this is where this information becomes a value to the customer rather than a wasted opportunity. I would say this has always been a target of most marketing departments in the past as well as today. It's the technology that makes the information available that has revolutionized the way marketing is changing in regard to these new techniques. 416568840,416620 416348107 416286197 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/28/2012 4:30:38 PM PAUL, Do you see any downsides to permission marketing? 416620918,416783 416568840 416348107 RE: Opening Jessica Lang Thoughts 11/28/2012 11:56:44 PM If the information gets in the wrong hands it is a violation of personal privacy. Mobile phone apps collect huge amounts of personal data like how fast and where we drive. A US company called Flurry Analytics for example, tracks 1.4 billion app sessions a day from more than 600 million mobile smartphones and tablets. It offers more than 70,000 companies the chance to ''identify your best segments by demographics, interest, geography, usage and more''. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technologynews/mobile-apps-allow-analysts-to-view-private-information20120918-264s9.html#ixzz2DamSR7Cf This article explains the extent of information that is monitored and how it is used to identify segments. http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/mobile-appsallow-analysts-to-view-private-information-20120918-264s9.html 416783235,417109 416620918 416568840 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/29/2012 8:09:16 AM Jessica, Good research. Does it seem like the ability to accumulate personal information is far ahead of the laws dealing with privacy rights? 417109698 416783235 416620918 RE: Opening Jessica Lang Thoughts 11/29/2012 4:02:36 PM Yes professor, mobile technology has launched private data collection at a rate that privacy laws cannot possibly keep up with. There is very little regulation on electronic data and who's property it is in all aspects of the world wide web except for banking and social security information. The world wide web in this aspect is referred to as the Wild West where anything goes, and there are no laws. 417109698 416783235 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/30/2012 5:20:26 AM Jessica, Laws are catching up to the Web, and as users increase their Web savvy, more pressure exits to clean up the junk, at least in my opinion. 416996484 416348107 RE: Opening Paul Dees Thoughts 11/29/2012 10:24:50 PM Think their can be a downside in permission marketing their not to many thinks that there not some kind of downside because if the companies don't have permission to market to that person then you have a problem this why the companies communicate with the customer first before they start to do marketing with them so their is an upside and a downside to this. 416621429,418148 416488258 416348107 RE: Opening Andrew Brown Thoughts 11/28/2012 8:53:18 PM From a business stand point I do not see a downside to permission marketing, but from a customer I do. We have become a society that is obsessed with "fame" and broadcasting ourself. This is why facebook is such a success. People put entirely too much personal information on their public sites. These permission marketing allows companies to have access to everything that you post and all of your contacts. Most people may not mind this but I am private person that does a lot to protect my privacy. 418148113,417544 416621429 416488258 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/29/2012 8:11:09 AM Andrew, Is it possible that even those who grant permission will develop a negative view of us if we overload their mail boxes? 418148113 416621429 RE: Opening Kevin Webb Thoughts 12/2/2012 5:56:57 PM If you actually have had a positive or negative experience could be a factor in this scenario. Of course if you had a positive experience with the originator then perhaps it would not bother a user and vice verse. However, i really think overload is a result of marketers trying to get around software filters and other barriers and they are just using the internet version of direct mail. I find physical direct mail more annoying than e mail. So marketers know this and push as much volume as they can out there. If they get a cost return and increased sales back in the bottom line then the marketer is doing the right thing. 417922259 417544390 416621429 RE: Opening Andrew Brown Thoughts 12/1/2012 10:38:15 AM Absolutely. At my last job I was in charge of all of the search engine optimization (SEO) which included the social media marketing campaigns. 3-4 posts a week is what I found to be the most effective. People want posts of substance, either for coupons or links to articles that are relevant to them. It is sort of like banners on websites. There are so many that my brain filters them out, so even the best tracking software will not catch my attention. 417922259 417544390 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts Andrew, 12/2/2012 7:29:22 AM Banner blindness is an issue - thanks for mentioning it. You may find this article interesting. 416289788,416348 416082829 RE: Opening Thoughts 414697574 Robert Davis 11/27/2012 9:20:51 PM I think that permission marketing is a great way to build seller and customer trust, but there is a downside to it. The information given during permission marketing is confidential and must be secured at all times. In the past there have been many cases where information was stolen due to poor security, misused due to fraud and used as a tool to gain trust only to steal from unaware users or consumers. 416348901 416289788 416082829 RE: Opening Melissa Esselman Thoughts 11/28/2012 1:42:04 PM Robert, I have to agree with you on this. I used to use the Publishers Clearing House website and then I started getting a bunch of junk email so I quit using it. I have several sites that I use on a daily basis and I opt-in on those sites because they are sites that I know and trust. I also only get one email a month instead of emails more than once a day. This is turn keeps me a customer. You have to be able to trust the site that you use for permission marketing because they may sell the information to the wrong company or like you said identity theft is a big one. 416348901 416289788 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/28/2012 4:32:45 PM Melissa, How about you - any experience with the PCI Data Security Standards? 416348622 416082829 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/28/2012 4:31:59 PM Robert BINGO. Are you aware of the payment card industry (PCI) data security standards? 415386484,415394 414738290 RE: Opening Thoughts 414697574 Joshua Gary 11/25/2012 10:02:55 AM Professor and Classmates, Much like the author of this bruceclay.com article, I get very pissy with spam email and "automatic opt-in" advertising. I am very careful these days to read every line of text on a web-based check out page. Most have boxes that require checking if you "do not" want to be included on the advertisement distribution. That's crap as far as I'm concerned. I love the national DO NOT CALL registry; it really does work. Bu as far as emails, it the same companies that force you to become on "online" member so you can "check out faster" next time. Who says there will be a next time? It should be punishable by law to consider my purchase from a company as consent to bombard me with emails and offers. I have found that, in my opinion, very professional business ask a very simple question when shopping online. "Would you like to receive product updates and special offers from us?". Nordstrom, Rolex, BMW...these guys know that assuming a customer wants to hear from them constantly could backfire. I turn away from companies that contact me religiously, and I will consider this in my future business. I will ask once a year and state that I'll ask again in a year - the same question posed above. R/ Joshua Gary 415394658,416023 415386484 414738290 RE: Opening Christine Elwonger Thoughts 11/26/2012 3:30:28 PM Indeed – you have to be very careful. Even a query to a search engine can trigger promotional material. There have been times when I am online and making purchases at the end of my purchase, there is usually a check-box that say “would you like to receive promotional materials?” or “would you like to receive updates and notices of sales?” – this, my friends, is permission marketing. Once you say yes, it’s like petting a puppy, you have a friend for life and sometimes it can be difficult to get rid of. 416023754,416251 415394658 415386484 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/26/2012 3:49:40 PM Christine, Why do you think companies continue doing things such as you described? 416251552,417021 416023754 415394658 RE: Opening Christine Elwonger Thoughts 11/27/2012 7:41:00 PM Well I’d say it’s for a couple of reasons really. One reason may involve the privacy issues that we are constantly trying to protect with our computers/mobile devices. Perhaps businesses don’t want to damage a potential relationship with their customer. But I’d say, in the long run, it ultimately makes the customer feel as though the organization using the permission marketing is respecting them as a customer. That seems to me to be another form of empowering the customer. 417021535,417109 416251552 416023754 RE: Opening Jasmin Rodriguez Thoughts 11/28/2012 11:47:12 AM This is also similar to when you sign up online for a company and after your registration process is over they ask would you like to subscribe to their updates, once that happens you receive countless emails from that company. Before knowing about how annoying that can be, I would subscribe to all updates from these companies I registered an account with and see the problem with that is once you opt-out of subscription that company sells your email to other companies and you receive more emails even though you stop getting emails from that specific company. I have had to change my emails many times because of this. 417109570,417632 417021535 416251552 RE: Opening Christine Elwonger Thoughts 11/29/2012 11:36:51 PM Jasmin, it sometimes can feel like its out of control. I have 5 email addresses that I (try to) keep up with. One for my friends and family, one for junk stuff, one for school, one for work and one for my smart phone (that I never use except for apps). The junk stuff email address gets bombarded with so much. . .well, junk! Just like you said, when you register with a site you are subjected to their updates unless you opt out. But by then, it’s too late you are inundated with notices, updates, advertisements, promotions, etc. for multiple companies, PLUS the updates from the original company. One I’d like to mention – Kim Kamando. I love some of the information that I can get from her site but once you use it you will get mail from her site every single day! It’s too much! 417632242 417109570 417021535 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/30/2012 5:18:51 AM Christine, I'm also a Kin Kommando fan - great site with much useful professional information. I agree, though, that the junk mail issue detracts from the site. Have you attempted to have yourself removed from the site's mailing list? 417632242 417109570 RE: Opening Jasmin Rodriguez Thoughts 12/1/2012 2:51:39 PM Professor, I have removing myself from many of these companies, but I still continue to get emails from the companies. Even when I unsubscribe to their email updates which send you deals etc, I see get emails, not as over bearing as I would usually get, but I still get then occasionally. I wish there was some way I can completely get rid of all these emails from companies instead of changing my email every few months. 415654887 415394276 414738290 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/26/2012 3:48:46 PM Joshua, I wonder why companies continue to use these techniques? 415654887 415394276 RE: Opening Joshua Gary Thoughts 11/26/2012 10:20:18 PM Professor, I would imagine the gamble of making a sale or getting further exposure outweighs the risk of losing a customer outright. Also, some folks don't want to take the time to follow the steps to remove themselves from the spam techniques. Goes back to the concept that if you throw enough crap at the wall something will eventually stick. R/ Joshua Gary 416349650 416085242 414738290 RE: Opening Robert Davis Thoughts 11/27/2012 9:25:18 PM I have to say spam is one of my pet peeves also. What really concerns me is the credit card companies can get your info and use it to run unauthorized credit checks. The information they get comes from places like cell phone venders and other small business that you give your information to but don’t use discloser. 416349650 416085242 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/28/2012 4:34:35 PM Robert, Really? - can you share a source for this information? 418323980,416079 415763113 414738290 RE: Opening Carnisha Webster Thoughts 11/27/2012 8:55:44 AM During my shopping for the Christmas holidays every store that I made a purchase from asked me for my e-mail address and no soon as I walked out the door, it seemed as though they started sending me all kinds of emails. Although they bomb-bard you with hundreds of e-mails sometimes they actually are very helpful. 418323980 415763113 RE: Opening Richelle Nolte Thoughts 12/2/2012 10:21:50 PM I can't stand that as well Carnisha, when people ask for my email and say they will send you coupons and I don't ever receive the coupons but increase my junk mail. I do take advantage of the junk option. 416350059 416079846 415763113 RE: Opening Darnella Harris Thoughts 11/27/2012 9:15:25 PM Hi Carnisha, I truly understand...but you always have the right NOT to provide your email address. I tell stores that I don't have an email address even though I have one. I agree with Joshua above, I really hate being bombarded with a lot of emails that I end up deleting. 416350059 416079846 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/28/2012 4:35:42 PM Darnella, Yep - I do it all the time and tell them I do not have a phone number. Perhaps we are part of a small rebellion:-) 415395051,416488 415118233 414697574 RE: Opening Thoughts Vinh-Tho Nguyen 11/25/2012 9:47:32 PM Spam mail has been a debating topics of some of my other classes when it involves online advertising. Personally, I think it should be illegal for companies to send you emails without you signing up to get their special offers or after unsubscribing they still send you email. Reaching you by mail is just like calling you on your phone because everyone with a smartphone gets their email by phone now. So since the advertisement companies can't call your house or cell phone, so now they email the ads to you. That small transition from calling your house to emailing you should be applied because people use their email for more than one thing and having ads come in is equally annoying as someone calling you during dinner time. 416488477,416620 415395051 415118233 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts 11/26/2012 3:50:35 PM Vinh-Tho, Have you discussed the CAN-SPAM Act? 416620533 416488477 415395051 RE: Opening Vinh-Tho Nguyen Thoughts 11/28/2012 8:53:40 PM I have not heard of the CAN-SPAM Act. Thank you for the useful link Professor. You have enlighten my knowledge. 416620533 416488477 RE: Opening Professor Crawford Thoughts Vinh-Tho, 11/29/2012 8:07:46 AM The CAN-Spam Act is important and all e-merchants should be ware of it. 415395309,417761 415239685 Permission Marketing 0 Carnisha Webster 11/26/2012 8:52:52 AM Permission marketing is the privilege (not the right) of delivering anticipated, personal and relevant messages to people who actually want to get them. It recognizes the new power of the best consumers to ignore marketing. It realizes that treating people with respect is the best way to earn their attention. http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/permission-mark.html 417761980,417947 415395309 RE: Permission Marketing 415239685 Professor Crawford 11/26/2012 3:51:14 PM Carnisha, Are there legal reasons behind permission marketing? 417947825,417922 417761980 415395309 RE: Permission Ddungu Wasswa Marketing 12/1/2012 7:43:17 PM There are not such legal reasons behind permission marketing as long as it done ethically and does not disturb the customer in its email or mobile. Permission marketing has also made it easy for the people receiving the mail to unsubscribe it through a simple single click. Easy unsubscribing method is one legal requirement for the almost all the countries. There are marketers which uses the concept of my profile concept, where the user can click on unsubscribe link, It is legal till this unsubscribe is easily visible to the people. In spite of these two reasons there is no such legal requirement for the permission marketing. 417947825 417761980 RE: Permission Jasmin Rodriguez Marketing 12/2/2012 9:26:11 AM Ddungu, I have to disagree, do you know that even when you unsubscribe to these email subscriptions those companies sell your emails to other companies, which causes you to receive more mail and its actually junk mail which makes it worst because no person wants to have 200 + junk emails in their junk mail. Permission marketing is a market within itself, and even if you don't realize it there are many unethical things about it. 417922405 417761980 RE: Permission Professor Crawford Marketing 12/2/2012 7:30:13 AM Ddungu, How about the CAN-SPAM Act - legal issue? 415415904 Spam vs Permission Marketing 0 Rasheeda Williams 11/26/2012 4:34:42 PM We all know that spam is unsolicited emails that are particularly offensive ones. They promote whatever when it is unwelcome and jarring. Permission marketing, on-the-other hand, ask for your permission to advertise or send you advertisement. They wait for you and even look forward to your message for communication. Seth Godin, a well known "marketing theorist" said, "The biggest asset a company can build online is the privilege of permission, the list of people who would miss you if you didn't show up." 416103828,416139 415785711 Rasheeda's Observation 0 Professor Crawford 11/27/2012 10:13:14 AM Hi Guys, Rasheeda offered some observations about unproductive email. Here is some information about email newsletters (best practices) http://www.useit.com/alertbox/newsletters.html Anybody have some comments to share. 416103828 RE: Rasheeda's Observation 415785711 Joshua Gary 11/27/2012 10:02:24 PM Professor and Classmates, After reading the useit.com article, I can testify that I do turn to my blackberry to read the news when I have a break in action. I cannot recall any specific newsletters that I receive on a regular basis, but I do know that my time is not wasted on social media. A newsletter must be relevant for me to follow it, such as anything passed down by the State Dept. I typically glance through anything that may affect the job or team. Now, regarding email, I easily discard many items based on the subject line alone. I intentionally use an old email address when shopping online, just in case I miss the fine print that ropes me in to spam emails. I check it once a month to clear the 50-60 useless emails. Otherwise, I feel many organizations can and do benefit from newsletters. They keep interested customers informed and provide a sense of belonging and ownership, and quite often they attract new business. R/ Joshua Gary 417456624,418349 416139751 RE: Rasheeda's Observation 415785711 Nathan Gurley 11/28/2012 12:08:34 AM A lot of this stuff I can see truth in from previous experiences. I get a lot more emails than I did five years ago. I can't go a week without 50-100+ personal emails whereas five years ago I could go over a week and not receive anything of importance. I also actively seek out newsletters now compared to what I did five years ago. The most important personal newsletters go to my inbox, those I read every so often go to my spam folder. I have rules created for my work newsletters to keep from cluttering up my mailbox. I also agree with using my phone to kill time. If I'm out somewhere waiting I tend to read on the Entrepreneur app, the Science magazine app, or play sudoku. I don't view videos in my newsletters. They take too much time to download. I'll only watch them if they download quickly and I can skim through them (where youtube shows a mini-picture as I slide the progress bar). I tend to get a lot of useful information from the reader's comments on the newsletter topics and I've also noticed they don't tend to comment as much on videos. Speaking of news, I learned from my publisher today that the word "news" was created by early papers as a means of boasting that their reports came from all directions - North, East, South and West. 418349092 417456624 416139751 RE: Rasheeda's Rasheeda Williams Observation 12/1/2012 12:02:12 AM I agree Nathan. I will use my phone to delete the junk from the news. I like that I get an alert on my phone to let me know that I am getting mail. So, when I look at it I can just delete or keep. I don't view videos or too much of anything on my phone. I'm mostly scared that it will be a virus. That is some new news for me. I didn't know that until now. Thanks for the "news". 418349092 417456624 RE: Rasheeda's Nathan Gurley Observation 12/2/2012 11:16:13 PM I know that feeling. That's mainly one of the reasons I have stuck to an iPhone. I prefer the extra flexibility of an Android phone, but don't care to spend the time right now researching the apps I download, although at least Android devices will tell you what information the application will access. 415984667 Permission Marketing 0 Charles Granke 11/27/2012 6:36:20 PM Permission marketing is marketing centered around obtaining customer consent to receive information from a company. I think companies are using this method more because most people despises a telemarketer and thus hates getting unwanted marketing material from a company. I love having the option of receiving or not receiving marketing material from websites I visit/register with. 416350638,416568 416054229 Permission marketing 0 Paul Albert 11/27/2012 8:30:42 PM Permission marketing is about seeking the customer’s permission before engaging them in a relationship and providing something in exchange. Basically online stores or businesses have to request their customers in order for them to begin any sort of transaction, sort of like a courtship. Nowadays companies are looking for more ways to reach out and know more about their customers and how to treat them better so they can retain their business and the internet present the best medium to accomplish that goal. 416568651,416620 416350638 RE: Permission marketing Paul, 416054229 Professor Crawford 11/28/2012 4:37:05 PM Is there a legal requirement to seek permission? 416620262 416568651 416350638 RE: Permission April Barton marketing 11/28/2012 11:56:06 PM There are many legal requirements to seek permission to use information for marketing. A few of the questions that should be asked and honestly answered are “How was permission granted? What does the permission cover? To whom has the consumer granted permission to be marketed? Can permission be transferred to another entity?” (Marc S. Roth, 2001) Although these questions are from an article published in 2001, I think they are still relevant. If an organization cannot truthfully answer these questions and find themselves within the legal requirements, then they should reconsider that segment of their marketing plan. Works Cited Marc S. Roth, A. (2001, June 6). A Legal View of Permission Marketing. Retrieved November 27, 2012, from http://www.dmnews.com/a-legal-view-of-permissionmarketing/article/73149/ Transmedia Design for the 3 Screens (Make That 5). (2011, August 29). Retrieved November 28, 2012, from Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox: http://www.devryu.net/re/DotNextLaunch.asp?courseid=7431341&userid=4376794&sessi onid=7d198e6850&tabid=P2cH8vxdESve0umaIRrhARB9QoBFPxjXEa7YdcC907rPWke 6Q5SX+nZqn0163rWn&sessionFirstAuthStore=true&macid=0UAT6hptLnDiogtdWuJfE VxzENF8WywJK+PHWGsEMve30eMDwdxNWbb 416620262 416568651 RE: Permission Professor Crawford marketing 11/29/2012 8:06:54 AM April, Check my CAN-SPAM Act posted below. 418342276 416350638 RE: Permission Ddungu Wasswa marketing 12/2/2012 10:59:24 PM In United States permission marketing act is covered under CanSpam Act. Can-Spam allows the marketers to directly send the mail to the people until they opt-out for that. Every mail should have a unsubscribe option and if the receptionist opt out for such messages then the marketer should address it within 10 days. The Can-Spam act prohibits misleading information send to the receptionist the mail should include true information of “from” till “to”. This act illustrate no abuse should be sent and the marketers should avoid sending multiple mails. The subject line which is very important in gaining attention of the receiver should not be misleading. 418192639 416350638 RE: Permission Paul Albert marketing 12/2/2012 7:06:32 PM I found this website with different forms of laws and regulations to permission marketing. http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp 416078279 Permission Marketing 0 Robert Davis 11/27/2012 9:12:32 PM Permission marketing is an approach to selling goods and services in which a prospect explicitly agrees in advance to receive marketing information. Opt-in e-mail, where Internet users sign up in advance for information about certain product categories, is a good example of permission marketing. 416084116,416270 416079887 future of marking 0 Robert Davis 11/27/2012 9:15:31 PM I can see permission marketing becoming a future tool for ec0mmerance communicating. There is great power and responsibility in permission based marketing, as long as you are using it appropriately and respecting your community. When someone voluntarily signs up to become a part of your email marketing database, they are committing to you as a professional and are giving you “permission” to send them timely, helpful and relevant resources and information. This is the greatest way to grow and build trust. It is also a very targeted and effective way to ‘ask people for their businesses. 416270220 416084116 416079887 RE: future of Darnella Harris marking 11/27/2012 9:23:15 PM On the websites that I create, each constituent must sign-in using their email address. I don't ask for permission up front because if you are attending one of our seminars, then we do need your email to provide up-to-date conference materials. But within the first or last page of the website I also offer an option for the end user to opt-in or opt out to receive non conference related materials. When we host a conference or I attend a conference you have exhibitors who want to send promotional materials via email. Most conference don't provide the opt-out options and end up selling the attendee list to other companies. I think companies who want to have a loyal customer should provide an option or ask permission. 416270220 416084116 RE: future Carnisha Webster of marking 11/28/2012 12:43:29 PM Times have certainly changed in the past several years. Consumers (and B2Bs) require permission before a business contacts them. Without permission, people don’t like it and it makes the marketer look terrible. However, it’s more than an opt-in 416308189,416620 416147055 Permission Marketing 0 Ddungu Wasswa 11/28/2012 1:38:10 AM The permission marketing can also be termed as invitational marketing. Promotional message are sent to the consumer according to his interest. It has been found very effective because the consumer gets what he wants. The marketing strategy has been very fruitful in generating revenues as it targets the segmented specific clients. It will be the future of marketing if the marketer does it ethically excluding spam, automated tele calling, overloading with messages. It is cost efficient too and value for money from the point of marketer too. It covers both mobile and computer which is the most widely use device in the world. 416620081,416761 416308189 RE: Permission 416147055 Darnella Harris 11/28/2012 2:37:57 PM Marketing I think some companies don’t think there is a problem with not asking permission to market to consumers since so many consumers who participate in “social media” and divulge their contact information freely. And it is also becoming a “norm” unless the consumer is proactive in not sharing their information. However, I do believe since e-commerce and eCRM is growing, this is going to be the “norm” on how companies will market their good or services and how they will reach consumers. 416761240,417109 416620081 416308189 RE: Permission Professor Crawford Marketing 11/29/2012 8:06:15 AM Darnella, How about a norm in compliance with the CAN-SPAM act mentioned in my post below? 417109345 416761240 416620081 RE: Permission Darnella Harris Marketing 11/29/2012 3:03:17 PM Interesting, but I don’t think the Federal Trade Commission enforces this law. Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act of 2003 (CAN-SPAM). It can hurt a lot of businesses and people if they choose to levy the $16,000 fine. But how would they catch people…by monitoring their email? Of course you would have to be turned in, but randomly how would the FTC know? I do see a lot of emails from legal or attorney offices who places this general text at the bottom of their emails. I wonder if they are also respecting the CANSPAM laws. “The information contained in this transmission is attorney privileged and/or confidential information intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender of the error and then immediately delete this message”. I think the main requirements of CAN-SPAM are fair, especially the first two Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who initiated the message. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect the content of the message 417109345 416761240 RE: Permission Professor Crawford Marketing 11/30/2012 5:16:20 AM Darnella, This is enforcement, but, from what I have seen, the biggest offenders get the most attention. In my view, all the law does is require ethical conduct, not at all unreasonable. 416351415,417295 416312741 Permission Marketing 0 Neheah Moss 11/28/2012 2:51:46 PM I've read it isn't a new concept, but it seems as though now its receiving a bit of a boom or resurgence. Permission marketing is the process of getting someone's approval or "permission" to send them relevant, preferably interesting information. I think we've all experienced it in some similar situations, for example when you want to subscribe to a website or free product the website will give you the option of checking this box to receive promotional sales or something-related. It's a quicker method of sharing information and gaining subscribers, plus it could easily be the future of online marketing by talking only to those visitors and getting that marketing message strictly to them (easier exchange). These two websites are a bit more explanatory in providing practical examples: http://www.microbusinesshub.co.uk/why-use-permission-marketing/ ; and http://mashable.com/2011/02/03/permission-marketing-social-data/ 417295708,417526 416351415 RE: Permission Marketing 416312741 Professor Crawford 11/28/2012 4:39:02 PM Neheah, Have you ever tried to unsubscribe from subscription email? If so, hared to do or easy to do? 417526500,418063 417295708 416351415 RE: Permission Neheah Moss Marketing 11/30/2012 4:26:27 PM Modified:11/30/2012 4:26 PM Actually I have unsubscribed from some email subscriptions, mainly because I got bored with the emails, plus they would send me too many sometimes then I just felt bombarded! Number one mistake in my opinion from companies, they shouldn't send so many emails that are loaded with too much content. Majority of the time it is an easy feat to accomplish, usually there is a link at the bottom of the email that says unsubscribe here and when I click on that it usually takes me to a page that shows the email I would like to unsubscribe from their listing with a button that allows your email to be removed from the system. However, for some reason I receive emails from companies I have never visited nor subscribed to and some of those are harder, because they ask for you to email your email address that you would like to unsubscribe and who knows if that works. Then sometimes when you do unsubscribe there is a 24 hour waiting period where your email is still on the listing and you can receive new emails before being removed. Overall, sometimes it can be quite annoying... 417526500 417295708 RE: Permission Professor Crawford Marketing 12/1/2012 9:42:15 AM Neheah, Kind of mirrors my experience - at best, unsubscribing is annoying. 418063839 417295708 RE: Permission Andrew Brown Marketing 12/2/2012 3:07:08 PM I know what you mean and agree Neheah. There are certain stores that add you to their email list and send 1-2 emails a day full of fluff. I refuse to read them and either unsubscribe or mark as spam. Some other companies email me only a few times a month and I usually excited to open them because they are either having a big sale or making an announcement that I am interested in. 416847034,417109 416352419 Protecting Customr Mailboxes 0 Professor Crawford 11/28/2012 4:41:37 PM Hi Guys, We have mentioned overloading mailboxes and other annoying things that may ruin our use of email as a permission marketing tool. The link below leads to some thoughts about treating customers' mailboxes with respect. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20020317.html Any thoughts to share about this topic? 417109213 416847034 RE: Protecting Customr Mailboxes 416352419 11/29/2012 6:16:37 PM Charles Granke I am experiencing this right now. I ordered one or two things online last year from Toys-R-Us for Christmas presents. I received around 10 emails a day from them during December and even into January. Not to mention the emails from their other brand stores. Since then I might receive three emails a month from them. I will not order from them this year because it has already started again. Luckily I use an email account specifically for online ordering. 417109213 416847034 RE: Protecting Professor Crawford Customr Mailboxes 11/30/2012 5:14:36 AM Charles, Seems like another example of Throw It Against The Wall And See If Anything sticks. In my view, there is no reason to annoy customers. 417953893 Usable Mailing Lists 416353223 0 Professor Crawford 11/28/2012 4:43:38 PM Hi guys, When we use email as a permission marketing tool, our email list is a valuable asset, and we must be careful about building and maintaining our list always keeping our customers in mind. Nielsen offers some important suggestions at the below link http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000820.html One important point is making it easy to unsubscribe - I continue to be amazed at the number of people reporting problems with the unsubscribe function. Any thoughts about building and maintaining mailing lists to further our permission marketing efforts? RE: Usable Mailing Lists 417953893 RE: Usable Mailing Lists 416353223 Charles Granke 12/2/2012 9:49:05 AM I like the use of Opt-In mailing lists. An opt-in list is one where people have knowingly signed-up to receive certain mailings from you at a preagreed frequency. Your opt-in list must contain two key elements: (a) the user knows what he or she signed up for; and (b) you, the marketer, must deliver only what the user requested. A simple yet effective way of determining whether a person really wants your mailings is to send out a confirmation email immediately after they sign-up. Not only will this help you determine the validity of their email address, but it will serve as a reminder to the person that he or she has agreed to receive your newsletters or other mailings. 417588428,417017 416365189 CAN-SPAM and the Future of Permission Marketing 0 Professor Crawford 11/28/2012 5:12:09 PM Hi Guys, Business operators should be aware of the CAN-SPAM Act - see below link. http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus61-can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business With this as a frame, what is the future of permission marketing going to look like? 417588428 RE: CANSPAM and the Future of Permission Marketing 416365189 John Scarbrough 12/1/2012 12:49:08 PM This will be a guide as to what a company can do with e-mail and how to comply and it will also give guidence to the customer or end user in whar their rights are and how to resolve complaints. 417423321,418201 417017562 RE: CANSPAM and the Future 416365189 Nathan Gurley 11/29/2012 11:22:46 PM of Permission Marketing I think as the ability for businesses to track customers online movements becomes more limited in regards to the EU's enforcement of the Do-Not-Track feature and users become educated about business tracking habits, permission marketing will eventually become the only permissible way for advertisers to interact with customers. In other words, people will expect this type of behavior or will not do business with the company. 418201262,418351 417423321 417017562 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Jessica Lang of Permission Marketing 11/30/2012 10:00:33 PM Very good point Nathan. People are becoming more and more aware of protecting their privacy and generally they don't trust the web because of viruses and threats. I think consumers really value a company that asks their permission before sending advertisements rather than wonder how the marketeer got your email address. 418351360 418201262 417423321 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Neheah Moss of Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 7:19:10 PM Modified:12/2/2012 7:29 PM I agree, when a company especially when I usually encounter this when purchasing online if a company doesn't give me that option of permission that repels me from them. I'm already weary of imputing my information online, but when you don't give me a clear overview of what you plan on doing with it, I'm hesitant. So with email now I barely enter into a subscription, because as you mentioned and as mentioned on the site some companies don't adhere to the requirements and in the short run I suppose its the customers that feel the pinch. Some companies can really work that angle, until the point nobody notices until its almost too late what they doing to customers and not protecting their privacy through their website. 418351360 418201262 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Nathan Gurley 12/2/2012 11:22:11 PM of Permission Marketing Very true. One thing to keep in mind is that anytime you input any sort of personal information into a web browser on a web-site, make sure the page you are putting the information on has SSL encryption. It will begin with "https://". The "s" stands for secure. This ensures that no one out there on the internet can easily intercept your data (packets) and gain access to your personal information. 417888303,417922 417109073 417017562 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Professor Crawford of Permission Marketing 11/30/2012 5:12:39 AM Modified:11/30/2012 5:12 AM Nathan, You raised an important issue - privacy laws lag our technical ability to gather consumer information. Laws will catch up, and I'm curious about what those who rely upon extensive tracking to do business will do, This should be interesting. Thanks for introducing this important concept to our discussion. 417922622,418351 417888303 417109073 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Nathan Gurley of Permission Marketing 12/1/2012 11:59:13 PM Thanks, I believe these new laws will lead to the creation of online "shopping malls" of sorts. It will be done through a software platform much like Apple and Android's App Marketplace. Tablets and mobile devices are helping push this direction. In these shopping apps, different stores will have links to shopping areas in the app where people can look at products and purchase the products through the application interface exactly how Apple does it when you purchase a mobile/ipad software app. In this instance, when an app is purchased, it is charged to Apple who then pay the software creator. People wanting to search for products will be able to look at the products via the web browser, but won't be able to purchase anything until they install the app. I think the privacy laws will be a little more lenient with these apps because the user has to install the application before having access to purchasing the products. In essence, the app provider will be the organization with the power to limit how much/little information is passed on to vendors. This also sounds like what boo.com's vision was back in its day, initially starting with sporting apparel. 418351484 417922622 417888303 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Professor Crawford of Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 7:31:26 AM Nathan, Logical and perceptive evaluation - it will be interesting to see how the privacy issue is resolved. 418351484 417922622 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Nathan Gurley of Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 11:22:31 PM Thanks and yep, it will be. 416619537,418260 416506132 RE: CANSPAM and the Future of Permission Marketing 416365189 Joshua Gary 11/28/2012 9:23:50 PM Professor, Classmates, I like this one! What really gets me here; all the requirements listed in bold are exactly what you'd expect from fair and honest business practices. Anybody here ever try to opt out of MONSTER (resume/job website)? Yeah, good luck with that... R/ Joshua Gary 418260087,418279 416619537 416506132 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Professor Crawford of Permission Marketing 11/29/2012 8:04:07 AM Joshua, Yep - just do what is right. Wonder why it is so hard fro some management teams to do the right (decent) thing? 418279969 418260087 416619537 RE: CANSPAM and the Future April Barton of Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 8:43:56 PM I found an interesting article addressing why some management teams don’t do the right or ethical thing. It states that business decisions are made “purely as a business decision rather than an ethical one.” Management would do a standard analysis, weigh the options and make a decision. “The moral dimension was not a part of the equation”. This is standard procedure; however, the ethical aspects of decisions need to be considered also. If decision makers remove ethics from decisions then it will trickle down to lower levels and the organization will soon operate from a platform lacking in ethics. Works Cited Tenbrunsel, M. H. (2011, April). Ethical Breakdowns. Retrieved December 2, 2012, from Harvard Business Review: http://hbr.org/2011/04/ethical-breakdowns/ar/1 418279969 418260087 RE: CANSPAM and the Future Melissa Esselman of Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 9:12:26 PM April, I fully agree with you. Businesses operating without ethics are a lawsuit waiting to happen. Ethical decision making includes all factors not just specific ones. Enron for example was the biggest ethical failure that I have heard of. This sentence in an article that I read was the one that stood out the most to me because it shows that some companies will ignore ethics until they get caught. "In the final analysis, the conspiracy of Lay, Skilling and others led to the collapse of the company due to fraud, false reporting of revenue, shoddy accounting practices and a general disregard for virtually every tenet of business ethics." http://voices.yahoo.com/the-enron-scandal-crimescandal-tragedy-controversy-136695.html?cat=3 The article itself was actually quite an interesting ready because it points out everything that went wrong with Enron and even what happened to the employees and other countries went through when dealing with Enron. This company was just one big ethical failure and the government agencies and other governments involved are just as much of a failure. 416619805 416503043 permission technology 0 Jonhattan Melo 11/28/2012 9:18:35 PM Permission marketing is the privilege (not the right) of delivering anticipated, personal and relevant messages to people who actually want to get them today, technologies like Facebook are helping to redefine the concept of permission marketing. Using these technologies, brands, retailers, publishers and other sites are able to actively establish a permission-based relationship with their users and customers on their own websites. since technology is so advance I do believe permission technology is the future of marketing. http://mashable.com/2011/02/03/permission-marketing-social-data/ 416619805 RE: permission technology 416503043 11/29/2012 8:05:09 AM Professor Crawford Jonhattan, That does seem to be the trend. Interesting research. 417644450,418120 416799031 Response 0 Richard Blackwell 11/29/2012 4:41:09 PM Permission marketing is the process of gaining someone’s express permission to send them interesting, relevant information. It involves an understanding between you and your prospect or customer. The reason why companies are using this method is because Permission Marketing: is Cheaper is Quicker is Focused Builds Trust is More Enjoyable 418120277 417644450 RE: Response 416799031 Richard Blackwell 12/1/2012 3:23:57 PM Today, technologies like Facebook Connect and Google+ are helping to redefine the concept of permission marketing. Using these technologies, brands, retailers, publishers and other sites are able to actively establish a permission-based relationship with their users and customers on their own websites. Now websites have the opportunity to embrace transparency, to be upfront with people during the registration process about how their data will be used, as well as how it will benefit both parties. 418120277 417644450 RE: Response Richard Blackwell 12/2/2012 5:06:39 PM Permission marketing is becoming increasingly common and is driven both by legal and social pressures. Legally, web sites and social networks are finding themselves under scrutiny by bodies such as the FTC, which finds the growing level of complaints from consumers about data privacy unacceptable. The leading social network Facebook has long held a contentious relationship when it comes to data privacy and is only really now seeking to move to a more user-driven permission-based hierarchy. As consumers become more aware of the issues of data privacy, they are starting to become more demanding about what they expect from web content managers. The days of being able to advertise to enormous groups of largely random individuals are pretty much gone. Source: http://www.helium.com/items/2086541permission-marketing 417455224,417527 417110999 More About Email and Permission Marketing 0 Professor Crawford 11/30/2012 5:34:34 AM Hi Guys, Email is a primary permission marketing and sales transaction tool. You may find the information at the below link useful, especially if you are contemplating using email to aid a permission marketing effort. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/confirmation-email.html Does anybody care to offer comments about this aspect or permission marketing? 417527552,417796 417455224 RE: More About Email and Permission Marketing 417110999 Jo Anne Joseph-Gittens 11/30/2012 11:56:30 PM Modified:11/30/2012 11:58 PM I am in total agreement with the observation that for email to fulfill its potential, messages must be designed for optimal usability. They must have a user interface that both works in a crowded inbox and accounts for most people's typically hectic approach to reading mail. For me, Facebook’s has the best design of transactional email; of all the email I get, apart from order and shipping confirmations, these are the ones I am happy to read because I do not have to click on a link to reveal the final message. The notification, or message text is already there in the body of the email. The worst kind of email is the “tell-a-friend” recommendation for some product or service. I delete those without a thought! And with more than a little annoyance, On the other hand, in order to achieve the goal of transactional email that my company sends out, I use language and presentation that enhances my company's reputation for customer service and increase users' confidence in their dealings with us. I scout opportunities from a film production website where I am a member. My resume is posted there so people needing catering services can look me up…but mostly I respond to other people’s job postings. Although relevant to the recipient’s need, my emails are unsolicited so first, I apologize for the intrusion, but offer what amounts to another service they are sure to need but may not have thought of yet. I’ll show you what I mean…attached to my resume is this standard cover letter: Dear (Producer/Director.) I hope this is not too intrusive, but I thought you might want to check us out when you start looking for someone to feed the crew. We make great food and specialize in keeping production crews well-fed and happy! And yes we do craft service too! Sincerely, Jo Anne Joseph www.gogetters06.com ALL BUDGETS WELCOME! See rates and packages here. Our CREDITS are our greatest asset: Then I list all the films we have worked on…along with reference contact info. 417527552 417455224 RE: More About Email and Professor Crawford Permission Marketing 12/1/2012 9:45:42 AM Jo Anne, Well said. Usability is just another term for saying we really care about the customer. That attitude comes through, and customers quickly pick up on the attitude. Why would we think an unusable site is worth considering as a source of information or product. Well said, and your sample does reflect a focus on the customer and customer's real needs and priorities. 417796607 417455224 RE: More About Email and Melissa Esselman Permission Marketing 12/1/2012 8:45:47 PM Jo Anne I have to fully agree with you. Emails that are usable are the best emails to get. I get so much email to my yahoo email everyday that 90% of the time I deleting almost 100 junk emails per day. Most of the time if it does not include an unsubscribe link I just mark it as spam but I have learned that with emails from companies I don't recognize it is easier to just hit the spam button because most of the time their system will not be able your email address. Designing your emails and websites for the customers satisfaction is what keeps bringing them back. If your customers are not happy then you are not happy because you aren't getting the business. By the way I love the site. Very user friendly, the music in the background is an awesome touch and the fact that your site is only 5 pages long is a big plus. I also like how you included your menu in a few links to be downloaded as a word document. These are the types of things that customers look for: simplicity, ease of use, and only necessary downloads. 418322190 417353068 RE: More About Email and Permission Marketing 417110999 Paul Albert 11/30/2012 7:06:06 PM This system is pretty much a hit or miss, more than likely a miss. Me personally, I hate having those email crowding my inbox. The other problem is that the message in those email are not structured to that specific customer. They're pretty much targeting everybody even though that they know that a majority of the people that received the email doesn't even belong in their market segment. 418322190 417353068 RE: More About Email and Richelle Nolte Permission Marketing 12/2/2012 10:18:26 PM I agree Paul I hate my inbox being filled with that junk. Right now it actually is full. I hate cleaning out my email box. 418133099 417523024 Discussion Thread Summary 0 Professor Crawford 12/1/2012 9:30:52 AM Email is often the channel of choice for permission marketing campaigns. However, effective email campaigns require effort to achieve success. The information at this link provides some important guidance about constructing social media marketing campaigns campaigns. The social media can work for us: however, permission marketing concepts apply, and I encourage you to review the article http://www.bruceclay.com/branding/web_email.htm A number of you pointed out the fine line between effectively communicating with customers and annoying customers with email and text messages – be careful about your approach to mass messaging. Also be aware of CAN SPAM Act considerations - privacy is taken seriously. Permission marketing is a powerful tool when used with care and respect for recipients’ digital inboxes. Remember - there are regulatory requirements for permission marketing, see CAN-SPAM, for example. 418133099 RE: Discussion Thread Summary 417523024 12/2/2012 5:30:37 PM Rasheeda Williams I have learned that permission marketing and SPAM are two different marketing tools. The more you ask for peoples permission the more respect you get. It just takes time and care for your clients privacy that will make your company a success. The article is very informative and lets us know how social media helps us as a business work and talk with people. Without social media your business could actually be hurting. Taking the time to know your clients and what they want and need will keep your business safe and successful. 417565758 week 5 0 Jonhattan Melo 12/1/2012 11:42:32 AM Permission marketing is becoming increasingly common and is driven both by legal and social pressures. Legally, web sites and social networks are finding themselves under scrutiny by bodies such as the FTC, which finds the growing level of complaints from consumers about data privacy unacceptable. The leading social network Facebook has long held a contentious relationship when it comes to data privacy and is only really now seeking to move to a more user-driven permission-based hierarchy. As consumers become more aware of the issues of data privacy, they are starting to become more demanding about what they expect from web content managers. The days of being able to advertise to enormous groups of largely random individuals are pretty much gone. http://www.helium.com/items/2086541-permission-marketing 418324509 permission marketing 0 Jonhattan Melo 12/2/2012 10:22:54 PM Permission Marketing is not a 'quick fix' silver bullet, but rather a fundamental approach to the new age of marketing. It is effective because the prospect is more receptive to your message and is prepared to listen to what you have to say. It's centred on the fact that the prospect has given tacit permission to receive information from you. Read more: http://www.boldhorizon.co.nz/art-permission-marketing.php#ixzz2DxnABrbc Under Creative Commons License: Attribution _u=6919420;_dt=6 40-7C-7F-0C-BD-C