Sub: Minutes of the 21st meeting of the National Council held on 23rd June, 2009 under the chairmanship of Director (HR), BSNL Board. The 21st meeting of National Council was held at 11:00 AM on 21st June, 2009 in the Conference Hall, Bharat Sanchar Bhavan, New Delhi. The list of participants is available in the enclosed Annexure. 2. At the outset, GM (SR) welcomed all the members of National Council, both from Official side and from Staff side in the newly constituted National Council after 4th membership verification. He mentioned that some of the staff side members are newly nominated members whereas others have been members of Staff side in the previous National Council. Thereafter at his request, all the members of National Council introduced themselves to the house. 3. In his inaugural speech, Chairman National Council welcomed Leader, Secretary and other members of Staff Side and also members from Official side in the newly formed National Council after the elections. He mentioned that we are going to have first meeting after 4th membership verification and congratulated Shri Namboodiri for winning the elections. He mentioned that under his able leadership, the management looks forward for the continued cooperation in dealing with matters of staff and their welfare. From management side, he assured continued cooperation and commitment to ensure welfare of the staff and to achieve the objectives of the company for sustained growth. Further, he mentioned that this meeting is taking place after a gap of approx. six months and during this period a lot of developments have taken place. 4. The Chairman further mentioned that the company is passing through a very critical juncture. During 2007-08, our profit was to the tune of Rs. 3000 crores and for the year 2008-09, the accounts are to be audited, but as per the initial estimates the profit is likely to come down to approx. Rs.100 crores. Our market share in mobile has declined to about 13% and now we are the 4th operator in wireless. There are certain positive things too, our market share in broadband has increased. Last year, we added about 2.5 million broadband connections as against 1.5 million during the previous year and with this our market share has increased to about 54% and no other operator is near BSNL. We have potential also in this area of business. During this year, we are going to add about 39 million wireless capacity, out of this 34 million is 2G and 5 million in 3G. Against this, about 11 million capacity in 2G and 0.5 million in 3G has already been rolled out. W ith the increased capacity, we are going to increase our revenue also during the current financial year. Tender for 93 million GSM lines for next three years has also been opened and it is under process. Another significant development relates to transformation of the company for which a consulting firm, M/s. BCG has been appointed for re-structuring business process of the company. W ith the assistance of M/s. BCG, we have identified vision, mission and goals of the company. He apprised the members that various pilot projects have been launched. These are, viz. Projects Shikhar, Vijay (Mobiles), Udan (LL&BB), Sanchay (cost cutting), Kuber (collection of outstanding revenue), Dosti (PCO) etc. launched by the company. In UP (East), Project Vijay has been very successful. These projects, if carried out, shall enhance our revenue. 5. After speaking at length about ‘vision’ and ‘mission’ of BSNL, the Chairman also spoke of the developments relating to staff matters – Payment of six months’ interest free salary advance Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 1 Revision of HRA rates. This resulted in stoppage of CCA which in turn reduced the salaries of staff working in four metros. Instructions issued relating to continued payment of CCA in four metros. DOT issued instructions that the revised rules for pension calculation as per 6th CPC with regard to limit of DCRG, commutation table, emoluments, qualifying service, etc. is applicable to IDA pensioners of BSNL covered under Rule 37-A w.e.f. 1.1.2006. [PS : The order has since been put on hold by the Government.] Provision of limited access of BSNL intranet to the recognized union. Payment of TA/DA to the office bearers of unions and associations. Re-iteration of Instructions relating to reimbursement of the cost of third Coronary stent under BSNLMRS as per the procedure prevalent in CGHS JTO Exam 2008 has been held on 21.6.2009 DOT has taken objection to the sending of representations by the unions and associations and the concern of DOT has been conveyed to the union on 19.3.2009. It is presumed, the unions have taken the advice of DOT in right perspective. Second amendment to CDA Rules. 6. While concluding his remarks, the Chairman once again extended warm welcome to the members of Staff side. 7. Executive Director (Finance) welcomed the members of the newly formed National Council, both from Staff side and management side. He mentioned that Director (HR) has already given an over-view of the company. W e have plans for the coming year – restructuring and other issues. In the mobile sector, we are going to get 93 million capacity. W e have to see that we get not only customers, but good customers and satisfied customers. In broadband sector, our share will further increase. Pilot projects have been launched to improve our functioning. W e need to change our attitude and procedures. W ith these words, he once again welcomed the members of National Council. 8. Leader, Staff side welcomed the Chairman, Executive Director (Finance), members from management side, Secretary and other members from Staff Side. He extended warm welcome to all of them and mentioned that this is the first meeting after 4th membership verification. He thanked the management and the Chairman for re-constituting the National Council. Further, he mentioned that the notification relating to reconstitution of National Council has been issued only on 4th May, 2009, i.e. approx. six months after, and that too provisionally. Commenting on the constitution of National Council provisionally since some of the members are from unions other than the representative union, he mentioned that this practice is in vogue since 2002, immediately after the 1st membership verification in accordance with the understanding reached between the management and the staff side. Thereafter, similar practice was being followed after 2nd and 3rd membership verifications. As such, the management should not have any reservation on nomination of some members from unions other than the representative union. He stressed the need for a proper understanding between the management and the staff side for proper functioning of National Council. Further, he conveyed his sincere thanks to the Chairman for issuing instructions for payment of salary advance, grant of HRA at revised rates, protection of CCA in metro cities, extension of pensionary benefits to the retirees commensurate with the 6th CPC, allotment of office accommodation to National Council in the Eastern Court building. W hile assuring the commitment of the Staff side for betterment of the company, he mentioned that some issues are long pending and need prompt intervention of the management, viz. promotion policy, wage negotiation, pay anomaly issues, regularization of casual labourers, merger of IDA for retired employees, promotional avenues of SC/ST employees in the promotion policy by assuring constitutional safeguards, partial implementation of award etc. He stated that decisions are taken in the National Council to form Committees on certain issues of the employees and demanded that action taken reports of such committees should be submitted in every meeting of the National Council. He also referred to the part-time distance learning scheme introduced for executives and Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 2 demanded that this should also be extended to non-executives. Regarding wage negotiation, he pointed out that some issues are still remaining for which successive and continued negotiations need to continue. On the functioning of the negotiating councils, the Leader, Staff side pointed out that the Rules of Business of the Councils were yet to be defined and demanded that the same should be brought in. 9. Referring to customer issues, Leader Staff side mentioned that whenever a landline connection is disconnected due to non-payment, the landline connection is restored on receipt of payment, but the customer’s broadband connection is disconnected after 2-3 days because of poor coordination since the billing cycle of fixed line and broadband are generally different. This can be avoided. On the marketing issues, he demanded that whatever schemes are extended to BSNL franchisees, the same scheme should also be available at BSNL CSCs. Finally, he mentioned that upward growth of the company is not the concern only of the management, but staff side is equally concerned and assured full cooperation of the Staff side in this regard. 10. Secretary, Staff side welcomed the Chairman, National Council, Executive Director (Finance), Leader Staff side and members both from the management side and the staff side. He mentioned that this is the 4th National Council formed after formation of BSNL. A number of issues have been discussed in the 20th meeting of National Council and also in earlier meetings. He thanked the Chairman for congratulating him for getting elected in the 4th membership verification. He mentioned that in the new scheme of things, the issues whether developmental activities or staff issues will be discussed in detail and decisions taken. He referred to the information given by the Chairman relating to developmental activities. While thanking the management for associating workers in certain forums, he mentioned that the staff side feels that the workers are not involved in deciding the policies of the company. The workers are simply informed of the policies adopted by the management and they have to implement the same. There are about 2.5 lakh non-executive employees and they gain lot of experiences in the field relating to the services offered to the customers. The workers are either completely ignored or their suggestions are not taken in proper perspective. W ithout claiming workers representation in the Board as in the case of banks, he stressed the need for taking the workers into confidence while formulating and implementing new schemes. In this connection, he referred to an earlier meeting of National Council in which a decision was taken for formation of W orks Committees at SSA level. In about 80% of SSAs, the Works Committees are not functional. The local level management is not interested to decide the policies in consultation with the staff side. The staff side urges upon the management to associate the workers and take them into confidence while formulating the policies, it will benefit the company. 11. Referring to 3G, Secretary Staff side mentioned that licence to BSNL was given long back, but the same has not been adequately exploited so far. This needs to be expedited. As regards 93 million GSM lines, he referred to the discussions he had with the Chairman, National Council and the CMD, BSNL. On the tender issue, he suggested that we should take the help of the Government so that no private company is able to intervene and cause any type of delay. He assured full cooperation of the Staff side. 12. Further, Secretary Staff side referred to the National Council under the Government set-up, which is presided over by the Cabinet Secretary. W ithout complaining against the present incumbent, he demanded that the National Council in BSNL should be chaired by the CMD so that prompt decisions are taken in the meeting itself. Similarly, he demanded that the chairmanship of the Standing Committee should also be upgraded to the level of Director (HR) for accelerating the decisions taken in the National Council. In order to have 8 meetings of National Council during this recognition period of two years, he demanded that next meeting can be held after two months since five months’ time has already elapsed after the membership verification. He mentioned that the recognized union is not getting copies of the orders issued by various sections in the Corporate office. Thereafter, he thanked the Chairman for allotting accommodation to the Staff side, National Council and requested for immediate handing over of the same. W ith the submission of its Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 3 recommendations by the Promotion Committee on non-executive promotion policy, he mentioned that some issues not connected with promotion are still pending. A new Committee should be reconstituted so that the left over issues are urgently discussed. He also referred to the Anomaly Committee and requested the implementation of the decisions taken. W hile assuring the cooperation of Staff side, the Secretary mentioned that he wants management’s cooperation too in settling the issues in a very effective manner. With these observations, he once again thanked the management. 13. Another Staff Side member, Shri J.N. Mishra spoke about the need for role of nonexecutives in the restructuring of BSNL. Only senior level officers hold meetings in the Circles and take decisions. Secondly, items for discussion in the National Council are given in advance. Timely action be taken to settle the issues instead of informing the members in the meeting that the issues are being examined / looked into. 14. On the observations made by the Staff side, GM (SR) mentioned that immediately he is in a position to react to some of the issues, viz. – 15. As regards constitution of National Council, he informed that the management did have certain reservations on inclusion of large number of outside members. However, the union also has completed the formality of submitting the list of members and their acceptance letters only on 2nd April, 2009, as such the delay is only procedural and not intentional. He stated that he agreed with Staff side that the provisional status of the National Council should not continue. Because of complexities involved, the Anomaly Committee issues can be discussed separately. Promotional avenues of SC/ST employees, the issue has been thoroughly examined and discussed before submission of its report by the Promotion Committee and the recommended promotional policy includes all constitutional safeguards for SC/ST employees. The issue of raising the level of National Council has already been discussed and finally settlement was made at the intervention of CMD by way of increasing the number of Staff side members in the National Council. On the demand of the Staff side for Action Taken Report, GM (SR) assured that a mechanism will be developed to keep the National Council members informed. Thereafter, the following agenda items were taken up for discussion. 15.1 Mobile connections and free calls to Non-Executives - The Staff side raised a demand that a mobile connection be provided to all non-executive employees as in the case of executives, whether operational requirement is there or not. In response, the management side informed that mobile connections are provided to the executives only for operational requirements. After discussions, the management side suggested that it may not be possible to do away with the operational requirement, however effort will be made to bring, more number of non-executives under the coverage of operational requirement. 15.2 Reactivating the Works Committees - The Staff side mentioned that the W orks Committees formed at SSA level are not functioning properly, and there is no mechanism to monitor their functioning. The Staff side further suggested that similar Committees can be formed at Circle level also. After discussions, the Chairman ruled that the Circles can be again advised to ensure proper functioning of the W orks Committees and the instructions already issued shall be Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 4 re-iterated. However, he pointed out that it may not be advisable to venture new areas and form these Committees at Circle level. 15.3 Non-settlement of pay anomalies - The staff side mentioned that an agreement was reached between the staff side and the management on the ways and means to settle the pay anomalies and aberrations which arose out of the wage settlement of 2002. However, since DOT has returned the file, BSNL should decide the cases immediately. In response to the demand of Staff Side, the management side pointed out that they couldn’t find any representative case. Further, the management side also pointed out that one of the types of aberrations was between pay of Group ‘D’ employees, who had passed the first screening test for Telecom Mechanic and were placed in the Lineman’s pay scale (which was subsequently upgraded) and those who passed the second screening test and were placed in the CDA pay scale of Rs.2750-4400/-. If the aberration is corrected by promoting employees passed in the first test to opt for lower pay scale, newer aberration will be created by application of non-executive promotion policy, which provides placement in higher pay scale after completion of residency period in a particular pay scale. Hence, the management side proposed a discussion in a separate meeting, preferably in the first week of July, 2009, to which the Staff side agreed to and also agreed to give representative cases.. 15.4 Inordinate delay in the implementation of Promotion Policy for the Non-Executives - The Staff side mentioned that an agreement was signed on the promotion policy of non-executives on 30.10.2008, but the orders implementing the same have not been issued so far and requested that immediate action is required to have the policy implemented. Responding to the demand of Staff side, the management side informed that orders will be issued immediately on receipt of DOT’s concurrence. Thereafter, the Staff side requested that the draft orders be shown to them before issue. 15.5 Refund of the CPF contribution, recovered for the past period - The Staff side pointed out that BSNL ordered recovery of CPF contribution at 12% of basic pay plus lDA from the BSNL recruitees vide its dated 12.08.2005 and the recovery has been effected for the past period also. Central PF Commissioner has informed that such recovery was against the provisions of the EPF scheme and had also directed to refund such contribution amount to the employees. Hence, the refund may be made without further delay. Reacting to the demand of Staff side, the management side informed that recovery of employees’ contribution on salary exceeding Rs.6500/does not fall under violation of Para 32 of EPF scheme and the PF Commissioner has also been informed on 14.5.2009. Moreover, in a similar case, a W P has been filed in the Hon’ble High Court in Madhya Pradesh against the order issued by the Asstt. Provident Fund Commissioner, and the Hon’ble High Court has stayed the decision of APFC, Bhopal. 15.6 Provision of Internal Quota in the Recruitment Rules for cadre of Executive (Marketing & Sales) and Executive (HR) - Referring to RRs for Executives (Marketing & Sales) and HR and the BSNL management’s decision to recruit 400 Executives, the Staff side raised a demand for 50% quota for internal candidates as in the case of Management Trainees. In response to the demand, the management side informed that the proposal to recruit Executives, both in Marketing & Sales and HR, has been dropped for the present. 15.7 Allotment of vacant staff quarters on Lease ownership basis - The Staff side pointed out that a large number of quarters are lying vacant at Mumbai, in the P&T colonies in Sahar, Santa Cruz, Mulund, Mahim etc. and only 1/3 of the quarters in these colonies are occupied. The condition of the unoccupied quarters is in a poor shape. Similarly, lands belonging to BSNL in areas like Juhu Danda, Borivali etc have been encroached by outsiders. Accordingly, the Staff side proposed that the vacant quarters may be allotted to the employees and BSNL retirees preferably on Lease ownership basis. In response, the management side informed that the Management Committee of BSNL Board has approved the Policy of Utilisation of Vacant Staff Quarters and giving the quarters to other Corporations/Government employees. There is no provision in the Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 5 policy for allotment of vacant staff quarters on lease/ownership basis to the BSNL retirees and the same cannot be agreed to. Regarding encroachment of land at Juhu Danda & Borivali, CGM Maharashtra Circle has been requested to get the encroachments removed and take action regarding proper utilisation of the land. 15.8 Conversion of JAO Part II competitive examination into a qualifying examination The Staff side mentioned that in the past JAO Part II examination was a qualifying one and subsequently the same has been converted into a competitive examination. In order to fill up the large number of vacancies lying vacant, the Staff side requested to re-convert this into a qualifying one and to conduct the exam without further delay. Responding to the request of Staff side, it was informed from the management side that in DOT when JAO cadre was having all-India service liability, the exam was qualifying in nature but after formation of BSNL, when JAO was made a Circle cadre, the mode of recruitment was changed to (i) 50% by DR from open market (ii) 40% by internal examination, and (iii) 10% of the vacant posts by internal competitive exam only from Sr. Accountant / Jr. Accountants. As regards conduct of exam, recruitment against all the three modes, i.e. 50% quota, 40% quota and 10% quota is going to be held shortly for which instructions are being issued to DE Section. Hence, the management side concluded that it may not be feasible to make JAO Part-II exam as a qualifying exam. 15.9 Conducting of JTO, TTA examinations under LDCE quota - The Staff side pointed out that JTO, TTA examinations for the Internal Candidates have not taken place for years together under one pretext or the other. This is affecting the promotional prospects of the existing employees and requested that these examinations be held without further delay. In response to the demand of Staff side, it was informed by the management side that some of the successful candidates of the previous supplementary LDCE, 2004 for TTA have filed an SLP in the Supreme Court against the judgement of Madras High Court’s order for conducting supplementary exam. However, the possibility of holding the exam has been examined in consultation with Legal Cell and decided to hold TTA examination in places where Court case is not there, subject to outcome of SLP. As regards JTO, process has already been started for conducting LDCE for promotion to JTO cadre under both 15% quota and 35% quota. The scheme and syllabus for LDCE is being finalized by a Committee constituted for the purpose. 15.10 Conducting of Telecom. Mechanic LDCE examination - The Staff side argued that in a number of circles, since the Telecom Mechanic posts are lying vacant under LDCE quota, LDCE exam may be conducted without further delay. In response, the management side informed that notification for conduct of the exam in such of SSAs where vacancies exist will be issued within one month. 15.11 Reduction of service condition to appear for 35% quota in the LDCE promotion to JTO - The Staff side mentioned that to appear for the JTO LDCE, 10 years’ qualifying service is prescribed under the RRs. Normally, the qualifying service under LDCE is less than the service required for promotion in the normal course. In order to rectify the position, the Staff side demanded that RRs be suitably modified. Management side informed that promotion is only by way of LDCE and not in the normal course. Moreover, this issue has earlier been taken up by the Staff side and a proposal for reduction in eligibility condition to 7 years was placed before the Management Committee, but the same was rejected. However, in case the Staff side provides further inputs, the case can again be examined. 15.12 Closure of DTOs at Mumbai and Delhi - The Staff side referred to the decision of Management to close down ten DTOs in Mumbai city and demanded that these DTOs may be converted into Customer Service Centres, utilizing the existing staff of these DTOs. Even though BSNL is not providing services in Mumbai city, a large number of BSNL customers come to Mumbai every day, from various parts of Maharashtra circle. The Staff side requested for similar action in Delhi also. In response to the demand, the management side informed that due to new technological developments such as use of SMS, E-mail etc., the telegraph traffic has substantially Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 6 declined. The daily average telegraph traffic of each closed Telegraph Office in Mumbai and Delhi was below 10 telegrams per day resulting in huge financial loss of about Rs. 40 lacs per annum per Telegraph Office. As regards converting these telegraph offices into customer service centres, the management side informed that due to non-provisioning of services by BSNL in Delhi and Mumbai, there is practically no sale of BSNL products in these two cities. In NTR New Delhi, the total revenue in the month of April, 09, for recharge of C-top up from all the telegraph offices put together is only one thousand while the expenditure is exorbitantly high. Therefore, conversion of these telegraph offices into Customer Service Centres is not justified. 15.13 Review of the guidelines for compassionate Ground Appointments - The Staff side referred to BSNL’s instructions on Compassionate Ground Appointments, under which "W eightage Point System" has been introduced to assess the indigent condition of the family of the deceased employees, and mentioned that that this W eightage Point System, in practice, is creating hardship to the deserving families. Accordingly, the Staff Side demanded review of these guidelines. Reacting to the demand of Staff side, the management side informed that weightage Point System has been introduced only after its approval by the Management Committee of BSNL with a view that deserving cases may get appointment on compassionate grounds. The management side further argued that with the reduction of fixed lines for the last five years, the number of posts as well as number of vacancies for CGA are drastically reduced, as a result of which review of these guidelines may not yield fruitful results. To overcome the present situation, the management side suggested the staff side to ponder over the issue and come forward with any alternate proposal. 15.14 Acute delay on the clearance of CGA cases by BSNL Corporate Office - The Staff side complained that Compassionate Ground Appointments referred to the BSNL Corporate Office for approval by the Circles are considerably delayed. Moreover, in certain cases where the Circle office refers the CGA case to Corporate office with its recommendation is rejected. Considering the extreme difficulties being experienced by the families of the deceased employees, the Staff side requested that a special drive may be launched to clear the back log. In response to the complaint of Staff side, the management side clarified that after issuance of the guidelines in June 2007 w.r.t weightage point system, approx. 1920 cases have been received by Corporate office for consideration, out of which 765 cases have already been decided. Additional information from circles has been asked in nearly 300 cases. Special efforts will be taken to expedite the cases in next six months. 15.15 Delay in the full fledged launching of BSNL's 3G service - The Staff side mentioned that even though BSNL has got the 3G Spectrum much ahead of the Private players, yet BSNL has to launch the service in a full fledged manner throughout the country. As such, BSNL has to take steps on war-footing for launching full pledged 3G mobile service throughout the country to capture the market early. In this regard, the Chairman remarked that the issue has been adequately discussed in his opening address and special mechanism to focus on sales and marketing of 3G services has been prescribed. 15.16 Allotment of 10% Posts of JAOs to Senior Accountants on seniority cum fitness The Staff side submitted that by virtue of their knowledge gained and possessed, Sr. Accountants already officiating as JAO may be promoted to the post of JAO on seniority-cum-fitness basis. The Staff side further submitted that with the conversion of Telecom Accounts cadres to Sr. TOA pattern, the cadres of Sr. / Jr. Accountants have been declared as wasting cadres and some of the Sr. Accountants even after putting in 22 years’ of service, are yet to be promoted. In response to the demand of Staff side, it was informed from the management side that 10% of the vacant posts in the grade of JAO have been exclusively reserved for Sr./Jr. Accountants, their zone of competition is also very restricted and they are not required to compete with all the departmental candidates which gives them a good chance of success. Thereafter, the Staff side requested for one time relaxation so as to enable Sr. Accountants with long service to get their long over-due promotion, the Chairman ruled that no relaxation can be given. Moreover, exam is going to be conducted and let them appear in the exam and qualify the same. Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 7 15.17 Increase in the quantum of OTA Rates - The Staff side mentioned that the OTA rates were fixed during 90s and are still continuing even after switching over by the officials to lDA Scale. The hourly rate fixed was based on CDA scale that was in operation at that time. Accordingly, the Staff side requested that the hourly rate of OTA both for normal day and holiday may be revised in consonance with the lDA scale operative from 1.10.2000. Reacting to the demand of Staff side, the management side informed that although the Fifth Pay Commission had recommended discontinuance of OTA except for Staff Car Drivers, Operational Staff and Industrial employees, but status-quo continued in BSNL. Hence, it will continue to be regulated at the existing rates (i.e. in the pre-revised scale) of admissibility. Therefore, the demand of the union cannot be agreed to. 15.18 Increase the age limit for selection as a faculty member - The Staff side mentioned that the age limit for selection as a member of faculty was fixed at 52 when the retirement age was 58 years. W ith the increase in retirement age to 60 years, the age limit for selection as a faculty member be also raised to 55 years. In response to the demand, the Management side informed that the age limit has already been enhanced to 55 years. Thereafter, the Staff side made a request for a copy of the relevant orders, to which GM (Trg.) readily agreed to. 15.19 TTA Exam - Conducting of pre-qualification test for the non plus two candidates - The Staff side demanded that in the revised scheme of LDCE for TTA under 40% quota, a provision be made for conduct of pre-qualification test for those candidates who do not possess plus two qualification and who wish to appear in the 40% LDCE for TTA, as has been done in the past. In response to the demand of Staff side, it was informed that any relaxation in the RRs gives rise to disputes in future. Further, when sufficient number of candidates with + 2 qualification are available, then no justification exists for providing relaxation. After prolonged discussions, finally the Management side agreed to take legal advice and in the light of legal advice would decide the conduct of pre-qualifying test, as a one time measure, for the forthcoming LDCE. 15.20 Declare holiday on 14th April of every year, on account of Ambedkar Jayanthi The Staff side made a mention that 14th April is the birth anniversary of Bharat Ratna Dr. B.R. Ambedkar and it is being observed throughout the country. Since his birth anniversary is being observed as restricted holiday in BSNL, the Staff side requested that BSNL may declare 14th April of every year as holiday on account of Ambedkar Jayanthi. In response to the demand of Staff side, it was informed that whenever a holiday is declared by DoP&Trg, the same is also declared by BSNL for its offices. After much insistence by the Staff side, the management side agreed to refer the issue to the DOT. 16. The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to the Chair. Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 8 Annexure List of Members who participated in the 21st meeting of National Council held on 23rd June, 2009 Management Side: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. Director (HR) ED (Finance) GM (Estt.) GM (Pers.) GM (Admn.) GM (Training) GM (EF) GM (CA) GM (FP) GM (SR) DGM (SR) AGM (SR-II). - Chairman - Leader, Staff Side Secretary, Staff Side Union Side: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. Shri R. Venkataraman Shri V.A.N. Namboodiri Shri P. Abhimanyu Shri J.N. Mishra Shri V. Subburaman Shri A.D. Patil Shri Suresh Kumar Shri K. Mohanan Shri P.V. Sivasankaran Shri V. Narayana Shri B.R. Jakhatia Shri Dharmendra Verma Shri Dhiraj Chaudhary Shri Hari Singh Shri Babu Singh. _________ Minutes of the 21st meeting of National Council SR Cell Page No. 9