Minute of the Fourth CMOC meeting
Venue: Shantai Hotel (5th December); YMCA (6th December)
Date:
5th and 6th December 2008
Timing: 9.40 am – 8 pm (5th); 8.00 am – 4.30 pm (6th)
Participants:1) Dr R. Krishna Kumar, Principal, Elite School of Optometry, Chennai
2) Mr. Aditya Goyal, Principal, Jayendra Institute of Medical Sciences,
Chennai
3) Ms. Prema Chande, Principal, Lotus College of Optometry, Mumbai
4) Prof Dipti Gogate, Faculty, Bharati Vidyapeeth University, Pune
5) Mr. Yeshwant Saoji, Educational Representative, Indian optometric
Association
6) Mr. Vivek Mendonsa, President, Association of Schools and Colleges of
Optometry
Note: Due to unavoidable reasons cannot make it:
Prof Coen de Jong, Principal, Bausch & Lomb School of Optometry, Hyderabad
Mrs. Kunda Ganatra, President, Indian Optometric Association
.
Salient Points of the meeting:
1) Mr. Vivek welcomed the members and shared the inspiring film on Life of
visually challenged children.
2) Dr KK shared the total number of courses in each year. Totally around 29 courses
over a period of 3 years and last 1 year is the internship. Ms. Dipti asked the team
to add occupational optometry, have two courses for Binocular Vision and
separate course for Paediatric optometry. All the members accepted the same. The
total number increased to 31.
3) Dr L S Varadharajan: Presented the course curriculum of Geometrical optics I
II. and Physical optics The following points were raised during the discussion:
a. Instructor in charge can be even Optometrist with experience in Optics.
Can be Undergraduate too.
b. Requested to delete Nature of light, EMR chapters and shift the same in
Physical optics.
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c. Ms Prema Chande recommended going from thin to thick lenses. However
Dr LSV felt thick to thin will be ideal. He also told that such points can be
given as the teaching tips and faculty can decide the best.
d. Dr LSV insisted that Magnification should be dealt well during this
course. The same as well can be given as the recommendation at the end
of the course material.
e. Field stops & Aperture, entrance and exit pupil, aperture and defocus blur,
receiver and detector diameter, depth of focus, depth of field can be
covered within 1 hour.
f. Third order aberrations chapter can be increased to 2 hr.
g. Higher order aberrations, Gulstrand schematic eye & related aberration,
refractive error; accommodation can be removed from the course
curriculum.
h. In Physical optics: Relationship between amplitude & intensity chapter
can be reduced to 1 hr. Remove types of laser and their application
i. All the members felt the practical exercises are fine. The list of
instruments can be enumerated by Dr LSV along with the cost involved
and can be send to Mr. Vivek.
4) Mr. Yeshwant Saoji : Presented Optometry optics and Dispensing Optics course
curriculum
a. Members decided that the theory course of Dispensing Optics will be
called as Optometric optics and the practical will be called Dispensing
Optics.
b. Mr. Yeshwant will rework on the same with the inputs given by the
members and come back with the revised version 15 days from now.
c. All the members felt the Dispensing optics course should deal with the
time the glass prescription received to the time the complete spectacle is
delivered. The knowledge on surfacing and edging can be covered through
theory classes.
5) Dr R Krishna Kumar: Presented Nutrition, Ocular Disease I II, Pharmacology,
Pathology, Public Health and Community Optometry, and Systemic Disease
a. The Course curriculum on Nutrition was accepted without any
modification
b. Ocular Disease curriculum can be reworked by specific mentioning of the
common eye diseases with the number of hours for each eye condition.
There was discussion on the objective of the course. It was finally
accepted that the objective is to make sure that the students undergoing the
course will be prepared on the knowledge on the etiology, epidemiology,
symptoms, signs, course sequlae of ocular disease and diagnosis and
management. Some of the courses like Thyroid eye disease, and
Myasthenia Gravis etc. are suggested to shift to the Systemic disease
course. To increase two more hours for conjunctiva disease chapter and
decrease 2 hrs from lacrimal disease. To add Allergic conjunctivitis,
Trachoma, nutritional deficiency and ocular conditions. To include
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d.
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f.
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Glaucoma and Nystagmus as separate chapter in Ocular Disease II. To see
whether DR and HR can be shifted to systemic disease course.
Microbiology course: Prerequisite can be Higher secondary Biology or
remedial Biology. To increase one more hour on Ocular Bacteriology.
Pathology: Prerequisites can be higher secondary Biology. Suggested to
look for alternative textbook. To include the number of hours per chapter.
Pharmacology: Ms Prema Chande told that she will recommend another
book for the course .Dr LSV insisted that everyone should give full detail
of the textbook/reference books- Title, Author, Publisher, and Year of
Publication. Prerequisites for the course include: general Physiology,
Biochemistry, Pathology, and Microbiology. Mr. Aditya insisted that the
Cornea and Conjunctiva in OD should be taught before Phamacology
subject. To include Flourescien, Rosebengal, Lesamine green and ICG dye
information and also anti-inflammatory drugs.
Systemic Disease: Alternative textbook can be thought. To add Herpes,
HIV, Hepatitis. To increase one hour for connective tissue disease.
Public health and Community Optometry: Members suggested revising the
objective. To remove Basics of Epidemiology.
6) Mrs. Prema Chande: Presented on Visual optics, CEVS and Instruments
a. Visual optics especially can be relooked for the completion. Visual optics
II course should be on complete clinical refraction. There was a debate on
the need for visual acuity basics to be taught in visual optics.
b. Instrument course: Inputs are given to the coordinator. She will look into
it. All the members felt that the instruments very commonly used by the
optometrists should be dealt with and a chapter on newer technology can
cover other rarely used but essential instruments in eye care practice ( for
example OCT,HRT, etc.)
c. CEVS: It was suggested that the scope of this course to inculcate the
procedural skill rather than the knowledge. So structuring the each
procedure in specific format like PURPOSE, SETUP, EQUIPMENTS,
STEP BY STEP PROCEDURE, RECORDINGS, and
INTERPRETATION. List of procedure to be included : History taking,
VA , EOM,CT, ACT, HT, Modified Krimsky, Pupila Examination,
Maddox Rod, van Herick, External examination of the eye, Lid Eversion,
Schirmer’s, TBUT, tear meniscus level, NITBUT (keratometer), Clor
Vision, Stereopsisi, Confrontation test, Photostress test, Slitlamp
biomicroscopy, Direct Ophthalmoscopy, ST, AT, FT, Gonioscopy,
ROPLAS, Amsler test, Corneal Sensitivity, HVID, Saccades and Pursuits.
7) Mrs. Dipti Gogate : Presented on Binocular Vision, Pediatric Optometry
a. All the members accepted that BV course to be given in two semesters.
Pediatric Optometry should be separate course. A lot of inputs were given
by the members to the author and relevant modification needs to be done
and revised version to be send to all. Dr RKK insisted that the goal of such
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courses should be realistic that we can only introduce the student to
Binocular vision and can’t make them expert in this area.
b. Pediatric Optometry course was presented by Mr. Vishal Nair of BVP. It
was decided that the course required revision. Members felt that the course
can have broad classification as: Developmental Milestones,
Developmental Anomalies, Pediatric clinical step by step approach,
(History to treatment), Special situations – Dispensing, Contact lens, Low
Vision.
c. Contact lens, Geriatric optometry and Low Vision Aids subjects were not
discussed for want of time. It was decided that Mr. Yeshwant will prepare
on Contact lens course and send to us. Meanwhile Geriatric optometry and
LVA (single course) will be relooked and will be sending by Mrs. Dipti
Gogate. Occupational optometry course curriculum can be prepared.
8) What is Next? :
a. All the members will send the revised version of their courses 15 days
from now to Dr RKK. ( Target date: 22nd December 2008)
b. Dr RKK will relook into all the courses and put in specific format.
Randomly picked Five subjects will be sending to each member. ( Target
Date: 6th January 2009)
c. Members will go through the same and also have in-person interaction
with their local corresponding faculty and take their inputs on the
curriculum. The consolidated inputs (without any edition) need to be send
to Dr RKK. ( Target Date : 6th February 2009)
d. Dr RKK will consolidate all the points and call for the next CMOC
meeting to discuss and freeze on the inputs and to discuss on the
Internship planning. The basic planning on Internship will be prepared by
Mr. Aditya and Dr RKK and will be circulated to the members before 30th
January 2009
e. Venue of the next meeting : Elite School of Optometry
f. Tentative date of the next meeting: 30th March 2009
9) Other Points :
a. CMOC members visited BVP College, Pune. Met Mr. Amit J. Shinde,
Incharge, School of Optometry and Dr Vivek A Saoji, Dean, BVP Medical
College. Apprised about the initiatives of the CMOC. Dr Saoji appreciated
the effort and suggested that it is very important to structure the course
contents properly. Objective of courses should be well thought and
planned with visionary approach. He also suggested some good books to
refer (name of which he told he will share to CMOC through Mr. Amit)
and told that he will share sample course he developed for PG students.
All the members thanked the dean for his useful inputs. Dr RKK also
thanked Mr. Amod Gogate, Mrs. Dipti Gogate, Mr. Vivek and
Mr.Yeshwant Saoji for arranging for the visit.
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b. All the members felt that ASCO can receive the materials developed by
ICEE and share with all the members. The material can be used like
anyother such materials available and nothing more than that.
c. Developing lecture notes can be done after developing specific guidelines.
Mr. Vivek will give the list of priority courses that required urgent need to
develop lecture notes. The time line can be worked out after getting the
inputs from Mr. Vivek.
d. Mr. Vivek accepted to put the minutes of CMOC meetings in the ASCO
website. It is also accepted by all the members that henceforth CMOC will
be part of the ASCO activity officially. However the responsibility of the
members will remain same.
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