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MINUTES OF 3RD GOVERNING BODY MEETING HELD AT 1000
HOURS ON 10 JULY, 2008 AT HQ PEC ISLAMABAD
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Lt Gen Muhammad Asghar HI(M)
Engr Abul Kalam
Engr Dr. A.Q. Rajput
Engr Prof Dr. Habibullah Jamal
Engr Prof Dr. Fazal Ahmed Khalid
Brig ® Mukhtar Ahmed SI (M)
Engr Prof Dr. Wahid Bux Soomro
Engr Syed Imtiaz Hussain Gilani
Lt Gen ® Muhammad Akram Khan
Engr Maj Gen ® Mahboob ul
Muzaffar, HI(M)
Engr Shehryar Khan
Engr M. Anwar Khalid
Engr Shahid Rafiq
Engr Amjad Parvez Uppal, SI
Engr M. Idris Rajput
Engr M. Khalid Pervaiz
Engr Zia ul Hasan Siddiqui
Engr M. Akbar Sheikh
Engr Prof Dr. M. Saleem Shuja
Engr Dr. Ehsanullah Kakar
Engr Ch. Amir Afzal
Engr Rukhsana Zuberi
Engr Habib Ali
Engr Lt Gen ® Syed Shujaat Hussain
Engr Mahmood A. Sulehri
Engr Haider Ali
Engr Mazhar ul Islam
Engr Dr. Kamal Athar
Engr Amanullah Hanif
Engr Prof Dr. Niaz Ahmed Akhtar
Engr Muhammad Shafique
Engr Dr. A.R. Memon
Engr Sohail Ahmad Khawaja
Engr Ayaz Mirza
Engr Dr. Muhammad Akbar
Engr Muhammad Shah Khan
Engr Javed Safdar
Engr Ghulam Usman Babai
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PEC Officials
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Engr Zia Muhammad Peracha
Mr. Mumtaz Hussain
Engr Dr. Nasir M. Khan
Engr Niaz Ahmed
Engr Khadim Hussain Bhatti
Mr. M. Z. I Minhas
Engr Osaf Mahmood
Regrets
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Engr Prof Dr. Saiyid Nazir Ahmad
Engr Dr. Asad Ali Shah
Engr Karamat Ullah Choudry
Engr Husnain Ahmad
Engr M. Irfan Burney HI, SI
Engr Tahir Ahmad Malik
Mr. Ateeq Zaman Khan
Engr Arshad Mahmood
Engr Lt Gen Shahid Niaz HI(M)
Engr Fazal Ahmad Khan
Engr Arif Kasam
Engr Sohail Wajahat H. Siddiqui
Engr Zahid Arif
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After recitation from the Holy Quraan, the Registrar welcomed
members of the house and informed that Chairman and Vice Chairman,
PEC had not yet been appointed by the Government. The Registrar
quoted the provisions of the PEC Byelaws Part III para 6(1) and Part IV
para 33 to meet such situations. The House then elected Engr Dr. Niaz
Ahmed Akhtar as chairman for the present meeting.
Agenda Point No.2 Confirmation of Minutes of 2nd Meeting of PEC
Governing Body held on 26 March, 2008: The minutes of the meeting
were confirmed by the House. However, Engr M. Khalid Pervez pointed
out that in Item No.3, in the list of committees, the committee for
Development of Mineral Sector was missed out. An amendment to this
effect has now been issued vide PEC letter No. GB/Comm/08-10 dated 08
July, 2008.
Agenda Point No. 3 Progress on Minutes of 2nd Meeting of PEC
Governing Body: On the progress of Minutes of 2nd Governing Body
Meeting, the members expressed serious concern about the nomination of
the panel for Vice Chairman and formation of committees. During the
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discussion it was pointed out that the Government has not yet considered
the panel for Vice Chairman and the house may re-reconsider the panel
and after deliberations, it was decided to:a.
Form the following new committee to select three names for
forwarding to the Government for nomination of Vice Chairman,
PEC; However, no one among the following members will be
considered as a candidate for Vice Chairman:(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
(5)
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Engr Mahmood A. Sulehri (Convener)
Engr Amanullah Hanif
Engr Ghulam Usman Babai
Engr M. Akbar Sheikh
Engr M. Anwar Khalid
Reconstitute the committees with following changes:(1) Management Committee: Name of Engr M. Idris Rajput be
included instead of Engr Sohail Wajahat who may be asked
through a letter if he desired to continue/quit in view of his
personal engagements.
(2) Enrolment Committee: Name of Engr Dr. M. Akbar be
included instead of Engr Karamatullah Chaudhry who may be
asked through a letter if he desired to continue/quit in view of
his personal engagements.
(3) Construction Industry Regulation Committee: Engr M. Akbar
Sheikh shall be the Deputy Convener. Engr Dr. Asad Ali Shah’s
status regarding nomination be ascertained from the Planning
Commission.
(4) Committee for Professional Development of Engineers: The
following members shall be added to the existing composition.
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(b)
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Engr Mahmood A. Sulehri (Deputy Convener)
Engr Haider Ali
Engr M. Khalid Pervez:
During the course of discussion, Engr M. Khalid Pervez
suggested that nominations should be made in a manner
that these accommodate members from all segments and
should
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domination
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specific
group/discipline. It was also agreed by the house that a
member will be nominated maximum in two committees.
(5) EA&QEC: Name of Engr M. Idris Rajput be deleted on his own
request and name of Engr Dr. M. Saleem Shuja be included. It
was also decided that the convener of the committee may co-
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opt some more senior academicians in the committee, as
desired by him.
Agenda Point No.4 Submission of Minutes of Meeting of 53rd PEC
EA&QEC held on 22-23 May, 2008 for confirmation: The Chairman
decided that the minutes of 53rd PEC EA&QEC are approved with
following directions:a. Intake in BE Textile Engineering and Biomedical Engineering
programmes may be delayed and not stopped. Relevant changes
be made in the minutes.
b. Para 25 of the minutes be deleted.
Agenda Point No. 5: Resolution of Case of Engineering Graduates of
unaccredited Universities/Institutions: The matter was discussed at
length. It was finally decided as under:a. In order to consider/reconsider the cases of batches of students of
certain programmes which were not accredited when the students
qualified and these student have been awarded degrees by
respective universities, the following procedure shall be adopted:(1)
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The parent university/college which ran a specific
programme shall apply to HQ PEC on normal AC-1 form
along with fee giving all details of the course(s) and
formally request the PEC for a visit.
HQ PEC shall detail a visitation team (including relevant
experts) to verify the facts on ground/records available in
the
institution
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ascertain/determine
shortfalls/weakness, if any, and put up report to the PEC
Accreditation Committee (EA&QEC) for consideration.
If the EA&QEC concludes that the programme visited
contains
deficiencies
in
terms
of
theoretical
knowledge/course
work
and/or
supporting
practical/laboratory work the Committee may advise the
institution to make up such deficiencies.
Comprehensive examination of such graduates shall be
conducted under the aegis of parent institution. The
question paper(s) for theory and/or practical examination
shall be prepared by an external examiner(s) specified by
HQ PEC and a representative of PEC EA&QEC shall be
present during the conduct of such examination, for any
clarifications on the question paper/examination etc.
The detailed mechanism for the above shall be spelt out
by HQ PEC separately.
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(6)
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The whole activity i.e. receipt of AC-1 form in HQ PEC
and final registration may be completed within a
maximum period of one year to avoid loss of time for the
student/graduate engineer.
The above mode shall be got vetted by an eminent legal
adviser by the Convener EA&QEC and the Registrar,
PEC.
b. In order to stem recurrence following actions shall be taken:(1)
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HQ PEC shall write to the Chancellors of the Universities
to persuade the institutions to obtain a No Objection
Certificate from PEC before initiating an engineering
programme.
HQ PEC shall also write to Vice Chancellors of
Universities to adhere to PEC instructions regarding the
scope/intake of students of any engineering programme.
HQ PEC shall inform the general public through print and
electronic media to enable them to seek admission in
accredited programmes only. This shall also be
prominently reflected on PEC website www.pec.org.pk.
As a long term measure PEC shall consider to amend the
Act and regulations for introducing flexibility for
implementation of the process of accreditation.
Agenda Point No.6 Regulation of students’ intake in the engineering
Universities/Institutions: It was decided that matter may be referred to
the PEC EA&QEC.
Agenda Point No. 7 Any other points with the permission of the Chair
a. Minutes of Meeting of Conveners/Senior Members of PEC
Committees: The Chairman decided as under:(1)
(2)
In order to avoid delays in the process of registration of
engineering graduates with PEC, the minutes of the
EA&QEC may be approved by the Chairman PEC for
accreditation of a programme for making it a part of the
First Schedule of PEC Act 1976. The minutes shall be
placed before the subsequent Governing Body meeting
for confirmation/directions.
As long as the Chairman/Vice Chairman PEC is not
nominated, the Convener EA&QEC may act on behalf of
the Chairman PEC and fulfill/approve formalities for the
publication of SRO so that the process of registration is
not interrupted.
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b. At the end some miscellaneous suggestions were given by the
members. The following was decided.
(1)
Next meeting of the Governing Body shall be held on 15
October, 2008 at PEC HQ, Islamabad.
(2)
PEC Employees be allowed to draw the pay
increase/allowances etc as recently announced by the
Government through formal Notification Nos F.1(1)Imp/2008
dated 30-6-08 and F.4(8)/92-Policy dated 2-7-08.
(3)
Contractors/consultants who are called to visit HQ PEC by
the Enrolment Committee are served with Tea as a goodwill
gesture. Initial screening of documents may be carried out at
provincial offices of PEC and following members will help
PEC offices during this process:
(I)
(ii)
(iii)
(iv)
Engr M. Shafiq at Karachi
Engr Haider Ali at Lahore
Engr Javed Safdar at Peshawar
Engr Ghulam Usman Babai at Quetta
The final approval will be granted by main Enrolment
Committee at HQ PEC
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Engr Amanullah Hanif suggested that registration of
contractor with similar name may be registered with PEC
provided their trade/profession are different.
Bidding documents of electrical and mechanical may be
updated for the escalation clause as per present
international practice.
Members were requested to send the remaining suggestions
in writing for detailed deliberations.
The House passed a vote of thanks/appreciation for the
outgoing Chairman, PEC.
The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to and by the Chair.
Secretary/Registrar
Maj Gen (R) Mahboob ul Muzaffar