CART Provided by A La CARTe Connection This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. CCTS Webinar May 15, 2013 >> BETH CHARLES: Okay, this is Beth Charles for the Center for Change and Transition Services. We had a couple of technical difficulties this afternoon so the page that normally appears on this first page disappeared. So if you will please type your name e-mail address along with all participating with you to left. And actually first, if you can let me know if you hear me. Give me a smiley face or -Smiley face thank you Marianne. Can anyone else hear me? Can anyone else hear me? Thank you Cyndie. Well, we will be back in about 12 minutes. And if you will just fill out this information until then that will be great. >> BETH CHARLES: from CCTS. Hello, this is Beth Charles We are going to get started in just a few minutes. I wanted to conduct one more sound check really quickly. If you can hear me please give me a smiley face or thumbs up or something. Thanks Mark. Thank Marianne. Great! Thanks Susie. Thanks Vanessa. I'll be back in just a couple of minutes. >> SUE ANN BUBE: Good afternoon. We welcome to you the Webinar on the post-school survey. Beth will be joining us in just a moment. Please make sure you typed your name and email address for everyone listening in. If there's more than one person listening in the office make sure we capture all that information. We appreciate it. We have some cool prizes to be passed out next time around based on people that participated in our webinars. donated. in. Little gifts from Seattle U, We appreciate you typing everything Because if you don't poor Beth has to hunt down names and e-mails and zip codes. So welcome to 2013 Post-School Survey. We are the Center for Change and Transition Services and our mission so to improve post-school goals for students with disabilities in the State of Washington. Today Beth will be talking about a review of the post-school data collection, a definition for post-school leavers, using the transition systemic framework or we call it TSF. We will go over frequently asked questions and giving you a chance to ask questions. And then tips for increasing your contact rate. So CCTS has conducted the Washington State post-school survey for students with IEPs since 1999. In this 2005 this data was federally mandated under IDEA 2004 for us to collect this data and report it. And as part of this OSPI is required to report outcomes to OSEP, the Office of Special Education Program, as part of indicator 14 B. So actually, every state is required to report on 20 indicators as part of part B. And indicator 14 is the post-school data collection. Because what we're looking for is positive outcomes of students with disabilities. Whether they are engaged in employment or education. And we know from research, and just from backwards thinking, that if we want a student to have good post-school outcome they have to graduate. Which means they have to stay in school and be engaged. Which means we have to write great IEPs for students that target what they want to do when they leave school. And engage them and give them free and appropriate public education so they can do what they need to do when they leave. Currently in the State of Washington we have 6,500 leavers every year. hundred or two. Give or take a Of that 6,500 approximately 4,500 answer the telephone when you call. And of that 4,500 students we know 36% of them this last year were unengaged. That means they weren't going the school and they weren't working. And that's the definition of those. That means they were not -- they may have enrolled in school but they didn't complete a term. They may have gotten a job, but they did not stay in in that job for 90 days, they didn't work with non-disabled peers, they didn't work for more than 20 hours a week. That sort of thing. Of the 4,500 we know 1,700 are not going to school and are not working. Of that 1,700 only 400 of them self-reported that they had attempted to get a job of attempted to go to school and could not. So the more data we have the better decisions we make at a state and program level to help all students. So who is a leaver? A leaver is anyone ages 16 to 21 with an IEP who graduated with regular diploma and graduated based on their requirements of their IEP. Received a confirmation, a confirm receipt of a GED. Received a receipt of received adult high school diploma from high school or community college. Someone who dropped out or someone who aged out at 21 with no diploma. Now Beth are you ready to talk about who conducts the survey? >> BETH CHARLES: Yes, absolutely. Again my name is Beth and I'm here with the Center for Change and Transition Service. I'm the person who primarily oversees the most school survey. If you send us an e-mail or calls us here today, I'm the one you most likely will talk to. So, the post-school survey as Sue Ann mentioned, as she introduced is conducted by anyone in the district. It doesn't matter it can be anyone in the district. It can be a director or an administrator maybe in a district of smaller. fine too. Or bigger that would be A teacher, a school counselor or a school psychologist. A speech and language pathologist, a para educator, an administrative assistant. district. It can be anyone within the However it is better if it's someone who know the student. Someone that had a relationship with the student while they were in school. So that when they call they -- the student isn't instantly thinking is this a scam? Is this a surveyor -- not a survey. Oh, you know how you get those phone calls sometimes about like voting or politics. So if it's someone that knows the students then that is always preferable. And it's also someone that must understand the importance of student confidentiality and commits to preserving it. That includes even just revealing continue students status as having been in special education or having had an IEP. That is all privileged education. So we're going to start with the definitions for the post-school leavers. We had mentioned the federal definitions and so when we talk about the different categories of engagement this is what we're referring to. So Washington adopted these in 2009 but they are the federal definitions from the office of special education employment and office of Special Ed programs. And the first definition is higher education. The second is competitively employed. The third is other education or training and the fourth is other employment. And those are based on a hierarchy in the sense that if a student is going to a two or four year program and they are also working that they will only be counted under number 1. Higher education. This will go into detail into each definition. Higher education means enrolled on a full or part time basis in a community college so a 2 year program or a college or university with a 4 year program for at least one complete term at any time in the year since leaving high school. So we conduct the post-school survey in the year after the student leaves high school. Beginning June 1. Which we will get to the timeline in a little more detail in a minute. So if any time during that year they have been enrolled for a full complete term, and it doesn't have to be full time. part time student. They can be a Then they have complete the term then they are counted under if under this category if they are going to a two year or four year college. Second definition is competitive employment. And that means that they works for pay at or above the minimum wage in a setting with others who are non-disabled for a period of 20 hours a week for at least 90 days. Again the same constraint is place oddity. If they were working less than 20 hours a week or I should say at least. A period of -- for at least 20 hours a week. And for at least 90 days then they would be counted in this category. And, also, that they are in an integrated employment setting. Where they are working generally with others who are non-disabled. The third category is other post-secondary education or training. And this means that they have been enrolled on a full or part time basis for at least complete term anytime since leaving high school in some kind of education or training program. there. Job copy. Adult he had. development program. training. school. This can be the examples Work force Any kind of on-the-job Any kind of vocational or technical That is less than a 2 year program. Like a certificate program or an apprentice ship or something would fall into this category. And some other employment means that the student has worked for pay or been self-employed for a period of at least 90 days at any time in the year since leaving high school. So this might been working in a family business or a smaller establishment. It might mean maybe the students an entrepreneur. Sue Ann has something on the say here. And So I'll turn it over to her. >> SUE ANN BUBE: Beth I just wanted to emphasize that on the survey, you know one a student may not know what 90 days feels like. That's 3 months. And the other thing that it's cumulative 90 days. If they work two weeks at one job and three weeks at another and a month were somewhere else it's cumulative 09 days. wanted to make sure is that understand. It's not always understand when someone is conducting a survey and giving information out or asking information of students. It's cumulative 09 days so if you add them all up has it been 90 days. >> BETH CHARLES: Thanks for the clarification I Sue Ann. Good point. It's cumulative. They don't have to be working for 90 days straight. So some other employment also would be a supported employment. And might mean that they are making less than minimum wage or they are receiving some kind of compensation for their effort. So the online most school survey in the past several years ago now it was all done by hand on paper. But now we do it all online and we will show you that system? N just a minute. But the way that the survey is conducted is you survey the leavers by following the online prompts while you conduct the phone interview. So you're on the phone with continue student and you are entering the students answers into the system. Online. And it's all automated. The survey will calculate and sort your outcome data for you. And that is available shortly after the survey has closed. I see a few people have joined recently. If you wouldn't mind quickly entering your name and e-mail into the chat box. That would be great so we can keep a record of who is here. Thank you. So the timeline. For the post-school survey. The first deadline that we have is the June 1 deadline. So on June 1, 2013 we ask that you have entered all of your relievers' demographic data by that date. So this year, we remember we survey the students one year after they have grated or left could. It's at least one year. So this is students who have left during the 2011 to 2012 school year. So hopefully you had been collecting that data throughout the year. Collected there, kept track of who was leaving your gad grated waits and drop scouts have a data base of that somewhere. If you don't the person on the talk tow first is usually your district manager. And someone in your dis strict will know how to get this information. We are not currently able to preload it for you. But that is something we are working towards hopefully. So by June 1 we would like you to enter the 2012, 2012 leavers demographic data. And then between June 1 and November 1 the survey is conducted every year. So this year it will be due on November 1, 2013. Using the contact information you have from the student you gotten from the district or perhaps collected yourself call each leaver until contact is made. attempts. That's a minimum of 3 We know there are some students that are just not going to be able to get ahold of. But we want to encourage you to contact as many leavers as possible. Get creative. Find alternate ways of contacting the student. We have more tips for you in a bit here. But we ask that you at least make 3 attempts. And then, once all that data has been entered by November 1, you can breathe a big sigh of relief. Then we go to work analyzing the data and it will be online for you. To view and to take back to your district so your teachers or the other people in your building to talk about and make improvements with. And then also during the time it's a good idea to continue to track and enter the demographic date for the next years leavers. So, for the students who are leaving the next year. Or -- sorry who you will be following up the next year. The 2012 to 2013 leavers. And then that has to be entered into the system. Also by June 1 of 2014. You do need a CCTS online account to get access to the survey. If you do not have one, contact your district manager. This -- it depends on who it is in every district. But it tends to be a lead teacher or special Ed director or someone who oversees the data collection. If you don't though that is contact CCTS and we can help you locate them. If you are a district manager and you're not sure how to upload new leavers we have some modules that can help you with that -- sorry, new leavers or new users. District managers are able to add new users. Then let us know if you are having difficulty with that. All right so we are going the go into some specifics about conducting the survey. As ask specifically using the transition system framework. So using the online data collection system that we have in order to track this information. It's a great system. It can be finicky at times. But trust us it's so much better than doing it all by hand and even for whatever technological hiccups we have, it is worth the effort. So, first, to access the TSS the easiest way if you have it bookmarked somewhere that's great. I know the bookmark changed last year for some reason. So the easiest way to get to it is by going to the CCTS home page. And that is at if you don't know already, just a second I was trying to add a text box. So that is at www.seattleu.edu/ccts. So if you ever lost your way this is how you get back to the site again. Okay, so click this link here on the box at the right hand corner called quick links. It shows up on every page. And then that will take you to this page s and so this is the log in page. down here at the bottom. I have the link But honestly it's easier to either go to our home age and find it that way or bookmark it. So here you need an e-mail and password on the log in. If you know that you have an account but you forgotten our password or you need to reset it you can click this button over here on the right. The link that says click here. But just note that you cannot set up an account for yourself in this way. However, if you want to reset your password you click that link. An automatic e-mail will be sent to your e-mail inbox. Check your trash file or junk file just in case. And it will have instructions on how to reset your password. If you are still having trouble resetting your password if the e-mail still doesn't show up call and you say let us know. We can do it manually but first try to do it this way. So once you have logged in, if you are a district manager that would like to add or remove users go here to the little user maintenance tab. Click it and the drop down manage application users appears. You add a new user by using this little green plus sign here. If there is an existing user you select the little pencil tool. And the circle in the bottom that we highlighted. And that's where you can make any changes to the user. If there for example -- for example if you want the adjust their, the schools they have access to or something like that. Yeah, so once you add a new user or want to change the user information this is what you will see. So you have to put in their first name, this last name, their e-mail. And then make sure that the e-mail is correct. Because that's the primary way that we interact with them. And then make sure that you check this approved box. If you don't they will not be able to log in. If you went want them to be able to add new surveys then check this box. But if you want them to just be able to modify or answer questions for surveys that are already in the system then you don't have to. The system will set an arbitrary password so you ignore that. And then you decide what level of access you want them to have. So there's a post-school read only. So they wouldn't be able to change any of the surveys. But they would be able to look at the data. For example once the collection cycle is over. A post-school survey district manager. This is going to be the main point of contact. One of the main mean that we send e-mails to about deadlines and important dates. And then most school survey user who can just be someone who has access to the system. add surveys. Is able to edit or But maybe for the whole district or just for a school. Then you have to select which schools in the district you would like them to have access to. And then just save it. And if you have more questions about that, we have a training module online that can help refresh your memory. So next to get into the post-school data section of the TSS in order to upload the demographics and student information. You would click either on the link on the left there this is enter post-school data or the blue part of the triangle on the right. This is the next page you will see. And since we're in the collection cycle for the 2011 - 12 leavers then you will click that box on the left the link at the bottom. If you wanted to enter demographic data for students that left between this school year, 2012 - 2013, you would enter that over there. So that can be confusing. are on the correct year. And make sure you If you are on the next year it won't let you make phone surveys even after June 1 until 2014 and the one on the left will allow you to do that. Then once you are in your district home page you can check out the resources that are available for download and view the video training modules that we have available for you. So they are listed there under the step-by-step guide. resources up here. And then also notice the From post-school timelines and answers to frequently asked questions and some other things for you to use. Up here the tab at the head of the page is also more resources for you to view there. And that would also include a hard copy of the survey. Some districts do choose to use a hard copy of the survey and enter the survey separately later. That's fine. And you can access that up here or you can e-mail us for a copy. But please note that you are responsible for upholding confidentiality and for destroying any hard copies with protected student information on them. Once the survey is over, this is how you would view the post-school data reports. And the way that our reports are set up, you can see your own individual district data and you can also see the data compared to the state and to similar sized districts. So when you're ready to enter the demographic information there is two ways to do it. You can either add one new student survey at a time or add multiple student surveys. If you are doing one at a time this is more or less what you would see. You enter the SSID number and student initials. rest of it. You can see the The race and ethnicity and status and first day back that sort of thing. If you want to add multiple student surveys you use the second link there. take to you this page. And then that will And you would need to download the Excel spreadsheet template. And I'll show you what that looks like here. And then fill out the demographic information in this Excel spreadsheet by using the codes tab at the bottom there. Sometimes people miss that. So if you go to the codes tab it gives you more information on how to code the student depending on their exit status race ethnicity et cetera. It's important you use the original sheet that we have here. And that you format the codes exactly the way they appear here on the demographics section. And then you would upload it to the system. If you are having difficulty uploading student surveys or the demographic information a couple of tips. Sometimes right aligning the cells works better. Again make sure you are using the codes that are listed on the codes tab, make sure you are formatting them correctly. Make sure the initials that you include for the student are four characters or less. want full names. We don't We don't want to know the name of any student actually if you e-mail us either. Just initial. That's just for yourself so you can verify which student you are looking at. And again make sure you are using the original worksheet download. And then make sure that SSID number that you have included for the student and that is the state student ID number. Not a social security ID or any other kind of ID number. This should be the state number. Make sure that it's 10 digits. Every now and again there's one that is 9 and usually a leading zero fixes the problem. But the numbers do not need a leading zero otherwise. So once the demographic information is ready and we have come to June 1, then you would conduct the survey by clicking on this tab here to right. So you can see all the student information on the left. And then you would click the telephone interview tab. And we're not going to go further into that at this time. Because we have trainings online for that. we have -- we want to focus on getting the demographic information in first. And So conducting the survey. Frequently asked questions. So we're going the run through a few of the questions that we tend to get. And if you have any additional questions, please feel free to ask them now or in a follow up by e-mail. We're more than happy to help you. Generally we do ask if you have questions about how the survey is conducted you watch the trainings online first. But there are lots of nitty-gritty technical questions that can be challenging sometimes. So we're going to try to address a couple of them here. So what to do if you don't have access to the system. We covered that earlier. Contact your district manager or us if you don't know who that is. If you are having difficulty uploading student demographic information try some of the tips above and if you are still having trouble let us know. Because we understand it can be very, very frustrating to upload that information. Before you make sure that everything is formatted correctly first. So when you're actually conducting the survey if you need to leave the survey before you completed all the questions. as you go. It does auto save So you don't need to worry about completing the survey. You cannot officially submit it until all of the questions have been answered. It will prevent from you doing so. If you don't have access to all the schools that you need to upload students for, if it's a school you know exists in the system already then contact the district manager or us. If a school has recently been added to your district then contact us and we can add that for you. We just ask that you know the building code and the start date for the school. And then we can add that easily. And then sometimes people will have issues with the system itself. One that happens every now and then is that it will kick out the user after 5 minutes. So if you have any issues like that, feel free to contact us and we will do our very, very best to get that resolved quickly for you. We understand that is very frustrating and we want to make this as easy a process for you as possible. So some other questions. If the leaver or the interviewee doesn't answer a question then you can't answer it. I think that there's a don't know or decline to answer. that you can answer. word there. That usually -- And actually I left out a The leaver doesn't understand a question is what I meant to say. That's what Sue Ann was talking about earlier. One of the jobs of the interviewer is to understand the questions and the definitions. So that if they need to explain a question to the student that they are able to do that. We're working on that to help you with that. We're working on a script that should address some of those issues. But if you're just reading the survey, from the screen and they don't understand, please try to help clarify it for them. Because we want their data. You made contact with them you got them on the phone they are answering questions so do what you can to help them understand what their response might be. If they don't answer a question, then they don't answer a question. If the leaver doesn't know the answer to a question, then there is a don't know button. But we would also encourage you to try to get them to estimate. You know they don't know exactly how much money they made. But do they think it was more than a certain amount. Whatever. Was it will 90 days. That means try to give them a sense. Well about 3 months. best data possible. So that we can get the Because if they say don't know, then the survey doesn't count for a full -- we don't get as much information from that survey as we would otherwise. If the leaver or interviewee hangs up the phone in the middle of the call. discretion. That's up to your If you think that maybe the phone was disconnected or something, then you can try contacting the leaver again. If you think it will upset the family by doing so, then you can use your discretion and not do that if say you couldn't contact them. Or that you contact them but they did not respond to the survey. If the leaver the interviewee doesn't speak English do your best to find an interviewer who can uphold all the confidentiality but is also able to speak to the family member or student in the language that they speak. We really want to be able to get data from all of our students. And we know that language can provide challenges sometimes. But it's a very important that we are sensitive to the different cultural issues that our families might have. And that we if the families might have and that we do our very best to meet them in the middle. And conduct the survey in a way they can understand. If the leaver is in jail, if they are in adult detention and not juvenile detention then we understand you may not be able to get ahold of them sometimes. But they would most likely count as a no contact. And the leaver is deceased. one we get sometimes. This is a tricky We know that this can be a very sensitive issue for families. your discretion. So use Whether it is appropriate to follow up with them. Or maybe there's someone else that new the student that you can follow up with. But obviously the point of the survey is not to create more pain for a family that is grieving. Do we have -- does anyone have any more questions at this moment? No. All right if you think of anything, feel free to let us know. Either in the comment box or by e-mailing or calling us. We know that little things come up every now and then. So we have a few contact rate tips. The contact rate goal for our state is 70%. So this is the number of students that we can get on the phone or family or another person who is able to answer the survey questions. So our goal is to get 70%. Of the students representative from -- for the student or the student themselves for the survey. That may sound high or low. Depending on how your district does with this. And we understand that it is not possible to contact everyone but we also have seen huge improvements in districts. Who thought they couldn't get above a 30% contact rate. Then they went back to look for some better contact information in a place that they had not thought to look before. rate up 70% easily. And raise our contact Just by taking that extra step. Contact rate is extremely important because the higher our contact rate the better our sample. And the he more reliable our data. So if we're only reaching you know 50% of the students and that information is not necessarily very reliable. Especially since a lot of the students we're not going to contact are maybe the ones that are not engaged. So we're not able to follow up with them and see what's going on. So we appreciate every effort that your district makes to hit this goal. So the National Post-School Outcome Center which is a national center that oversees the post-school survey and provides technical assistants on the post-school survey put out a list of recommendations. They had focus groups with students and families. And had them talk about what would help them answer the survey. These were the generally the harder to find youths. But there's you know we know there's always going to be a combination of use but for various reasons they are going to be more challenging to contact. So these are the 5 big strategies that they came up with. To improve contact rate for districts. So I'm going go threw them very briefly. are on our website as well. They If you want more information let us know. One is to provide pre-notification. That means before stool school is done as well as after the student has left high school and before the survey has been completed. So letting the family and the students know that the survey is coming their way. So they are not surprised by it or concerned about when they answer the phone and they think it's a sales man or something. Or someone who -- a scam or someone that might compromise the confidentiality of their student or family. And we have a new tool that we have developed for this. It's a postcard that you can send out before the survey is conducted. If you would like some of those we would love to send them to you. There are a couple of ways that we recommend using the postcards. You can send them out to students this year for whom you have addresses. mail. And it will show up in their It doesn't give away any confidential information. It just says their teacher is going to try to get in touch with them. want to know how they are doing. They And so that when that phone call comes, again maybe it won't be such a surprise. Another method of using the postcard that we think is great is if before the student graduates they actually self-address the postcard. So then when you send it to them the year after they leave when you're getting ready to do the post-school survey collection they receive it in the mail with their own handwriting and the image triggers a memory and they know what is happening. Number 2 create familiarity with the survey. And this can be as simple as going through the questions on the survey with the student before they have left. Giving them a sense of what to expect or maybe using it as a vocab lesson. that there are not any unfamiliar words. So So or so they understand the kinds of questions they are going to be asked. And again knowing -- letting the families know as well. Explain so that they know what's coming and what also what it is used for. Number 3 was that the interviewer just show interest when conducting the survey. interested tone of voice. Uses an Is nonjudgmental if the student is maybe not doing what the interviewer hopes they were doing. And that it's engaging and somewhat interesting that the student wants to answer. Number 4 is provide incentives. We can't you know most districts are not able to offer money. You might be able to get a gift card or something from the community. But that's not really a possibility most of the time. But what is student said is that actually a big incentive was knowing that the survey was going the make a difference for other students. So knowing what the survey going to be used for and that it can make a difference in other students lives. Just like themselves, so this might mean showing the data before they leave. Or again creating familiarity with it while they are in high school so that when the receive a call themselves there is some kind of incentive on the talk about what they are doing. Another simple incentive can be being called by their favorite teacher. Or someone that they had a particular bond with. So that when they get that call they are excited about answering the survey and talking to that teacher. And seeing what they're doing and enjoying making that contact again. So number 25 is be extra -- number 5 is be strategic about making contact. normal school hours. 9 to the 7 to 3 are not necessarily a good time the reach all students or families. If you can try to make some of the phone calls at other times. evenings or weekends. In the Find a way on the make some phone calls outside of that strict daytime window so that you're reaching the students or families that work during the day. Another idea is on the make calls around holidays when the family may have been in touch with their student, with the leaver if maybe they are off at college or living somewhere else. So thinking about, you know, making contact in different ways. Different times of the day, you know, instead of calling every day at 7:00 or whatever. And, also, remember that for many students especially in smaller districts but really any school they may have siblings or may have cousins. So if you are having trouble finding a student see if you can use the community. The local church or other teachers. you know where Billy is? Hay hey do Or what he's up to or how I might be able to get in contact with him. So being creative about the ways that we use to get in contact with the student. And make sure that you are also leaving a message with a callback number. Instead of just leaving a message and just trying again later. Give the student a chance to call you back as well. I mentioned some of our new resources. We are currently putting together a most school survey tool kit that we are very committed excited about. And some of the things that will be included in this is leaver contact information form. So we have updated. Some of you have used our contact information form in the past. And we have updated that to include some of the suggestions from NPSO. For example, what student -- or what teacher the student might like the hear from. Or what is the best way to get in contact for them. that maybe e-mail. For some students For others, the phone. But how, you know, what are other ways we can get in contact with them. Or maybe they would like you to call their parents or some other contact. So collecting as much information about the student and any other related contact as possible. We've also put together or will be putting together a new flier with most school survey information. But one really exciting resource I mentioned is the postcards. If you would like any of those we have lots of them and would be more than happy to send them to you as a pilot. We just want to know how it goes. So we can use that information to improve them in the future or to see if this is something that works for our state. There's been a lot of success in other states using a similar pre-notification or in other districts that we have heard of. We are trying to make this as easy as possible for you. We know that you have a lot to do. You're workdays are already very full. And we want to try to make doing the survey and increasing your contact rate as easy as possible. Awesome Marianne. I will definitely send you some. We are also working on the survey script. Hopefully that will be available by June 1. Then we also have a PowerPoint template for the post-school survey results. This is taking the data back to students and teachers and showing them instead of just submitting all the information on November 1 and walking away, we really want these data to be meaningful to you and your school district. So you can see what you're doing well. What you're -- or maybe what you're not doing well, areas of improvement. So you can continue to improve the post-school results for your student. So we are also very excited about that. And in the future hope that it will also be available on our website so you can, once the data has been published that you can downed load a PowerPoint already loaded with your districts information. Or work on finding a way to automate that. So these are just images of a couple of the things that we started. most card. Here to left is the And then on the right is the post-school survey contact information form. So just to give you a sense of the stuff that we're working on. Very excited. We think that this -- we are hopeful that this will help. And make this easier for you. And if you or anyone in your district or school has more suggestions about things. You might like to see in this tool kit please let us know. We're open to suggestions. All right are there any questions? I realize we covered kind of a lot there. So if you have any questions feel free to enter them. Oh how do we contact you for the postcards? You can probably the easiest way would be to e-mail us at ccts@seattleu.edu. And put it in there. There we go. And sorry I thought I had a slide in there. But Sue Ann put it into the chat box so you can see it there. Just let us know how many and where you would like us to send them to. And if you had more questions about how the survey actually conducted going through each question that is all available on the training modules that you can find them on our website. Thank you. Thank you we hope that this is going to be helpful for the survey. And again, if you have any questions always feel free to give us a call. get back to you quickly. We do our best to There's some times we are a little bit busier and we are out of the office with trainings but we do our best to help you out. Yeah so if you want to type in a tool or support that we provided is that you find helpful and would like to use again. Or if there's a way that we can help better support you this year or with the post-school surveys specifically. Let us know. Either in the chat box or later. And after the Webinar you will receive a quick survey asking you -- it's just an he felt mail asking you to create a quick survey about how this Webinar was today. And we really appreciate if you fill that out. go back and look at the comments. It -- we do And we do our best to improve the services that we can offer to you. Some upcoming trainings. The annual combined summer institute is from July 22nd to the 25th in Wenatchee, Washington. We will be presenting not the whole week but for almost a solid day you will find us there. We will be at WASA the Professional Administrators Meeting from July 30th to 31st in Tacoma, Washington. Then we don't have a schedule of the webinars next year per say, but they're always on the second Wednesday of each month. And we will start on September 11th, I believe, is the first second Wednesday of the fall. So make sure to keep your eyes open for that. And Susie also mentioned that one way she found couple of her students is using social media. And we definitely encourage that. There are ways to do it that are completely private and confidential. We know your district may have policies about contacting them through social media. The state does. So, you know, be respectful of that. But there are great ways on the use social media and almost every young person has a some kind of online presence. If it's Facebook or Twitter or My Space or there are all sorts of different ways to get in contact with them. LinkedIn, Tumblr. Some have There are all kinds of platforms on the contact students. Just as long as you are not disclosing confidential information. A private message or something like that. [Recording stopped] >> BETH CHARLES: All right, so I'll -- okay, thanks Marianne. I'll send you that as well. Let us know if you need anything else. If you have any more questions you can always feel free to contact us. survey. And good luck with the