AEROSPACE QUALITY SYSTEM
JUNE 2011
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
JUNE 20 – JUNE 24, 2011
London, England
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent
meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the
Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22 to THURSDAY, JUNE 23
1.0
OPENING COMMENTS - OPEN
1.1
Call to Order / Quorum Check
The Aerospace Quality System (AQS) Task Group was called to order at 9:00 a.m., 22-June-11.
It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of
the meeting.
A quorum was not established during the morning session due to schedule changes by the NMC
and AQS representatives having to attend other meetings, so no decisions were made. It was
confirmed that a meeting can be held per Nadcap procedures, though no notes can be taken.
There was quorum throughout the rest of the meeting agenda with the following representatives in
attendance:
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
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*
*
*
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NAME
Robert
Robin
David
Harold
Andy
Keith
Angelina
Earl
Paul
David
George
Wilfried
Bodemuller
Borrelli
Day
Finch
Hopkins
Kastner
Mendoza
Pruett
Roberts
Vaughn
Winchester
Weber
COMPANY NAME
Ball Aerospace & Technologies
The Boeing Company
GE Aviation
Spirit AeroSystems
BAE Systems
Cessna Aircraft Company
Goodrich Corporation
Lockheed Martin Corporation
GE Aviation
Spirit AeroSystems
Northrop Grumman Corporation
PFW Aerospace AG
AQS Liaisons Present (* Indicates Task Group Liaison)
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NAME
Robin
Mark
David
Scott
Wilfried
Dewey
Borrelli
Covert
Day
Sullivan
Weber
Whittaker
COMPANY NAME
The Boeing Company
Honeywell Aerospace
GE Aviation
Honeywell Aerospace
PFW Aerospace AG
Honeywell Aerospace
PRI Staff Present
Mark
Susan
Pete
Aubele
Frailey
Kucan
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Vice Chairperson
Chairperson
Secretary
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1.2
Approval of February 2011 minutes
The minutes from February 2011 were reviewed and amended to add AQS Liaison names missing
from the minutes. Minutes were approved as amended.
Motion made by Mark Covert and seconded by Bob Bodemuller to formally approve the amended
minutes. Motion Passed
Acronyms, discussed non-use of, David introduced new acronym AAQSC – Americas’ Aerospace
Quality Standards Committee
The Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interests statements were reviewed.
The agenda for this meeting was reviewed by Susan Frailey.
1.3
New Voting Members:
The Task Group voted to accept the following:
Angeline Mendoza – Goodrich Corporation
George Winchester – Northrop Grumman Corporation
2.0
TASK GROUP TUTORIAL – OPEN
The AQS Tutorial was given by David Day and Susan Frailey.
AQS Attendees
Tutorial JUN-2011.pdf
3.0
REVIEW OF RAIL – OPEN
Susan Frailey reviewed the RAIL items.
4.0
SSC STATUS REPORT – OPEN
The SSC Status Review was presented by Susan Frailey
AQS SSC TG Report
Jun11.pdf
5.0
METRICS REVIEW – OPEN
Susan Frailey presented the NMC AQS metrics to the Task Group
Susan Frailey presented the Staff Engineering Delegation to the Task Group
NMC Metrics AQS
5-11.pdf
June 2011
Delegation.pdf
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6.0
MISC REPORTING – OPEN
OASIS Registrar notifications were presented to the Task Group
Reviewed Audit Observation presentation, including number of AQS observed audits performed
from April 2009 through May 2011.
Audit Observations
June 2011.pdf
7.0
AC 7004– OPEN
Comments received from a Supplier, Auditor feedback, and Task Group members about the AC
7004 Revision E checklist were reviewed for possible clarifications within the AQS Audit Handbook.
David Day and George Winchester were added to the AQS Audit Handbook Team.
There were additions to the Auditor Qualification Team to continue procedure update. The team
now includes David Day, Pete Kucan, George Winchester, along with Bob Bodemuller and Susan
Frailey.
Bob Bodemuller discussed the progress with the AS9003 revision, currently in process. He
indicated that Internal Audits were added back into this standard and excluded special processes.
ACTION ITEM: Susan Frailey to provide copy of AQS Audit handbook to team and set up conference call.
(DUE DATE: 30-JUN-11)
ACTION ITEM: AQS Audit Handbook Team to work to provide Task Group with a draft prior to October
Nadcap meeting. (DUE DATE: 31-SEPT-11)
8.0
AUIDTOR CONFERENCE – OPEN
The AQS Auditor Conference team reviewed the 2011 Training agenda. This year’s topic will be
clarifications of the new AC7004 Revision E requirements and a Question/Answer session.
The AQS Auditor Conference team solicited feedback from the AQS Auditors for items needing
clarification.
9.0
QMS INTEGRATION - OPEN
David Day discussed satellite and main facilities that don’t have the same Quality Systems (AS
9100 at one facility and AC 7004 at the other). The Task Group agreed that as long as the Quality
Manuals are the same and the rest of the Satellite criteria are met, there is no problem.
The AQS Task Group is watching the AS9100 rev B deadline to upgrade to AS9100 rev C and how
Suppliers may be affected.
David Day discussed the Liaison Meeting’s MOU Process.
10.0
DATA COLLECTION - OPEN
This item is tabled till NMC sub-team gets done with their work and reports back to the Task
Groups.
Mark Covert discussed measuring Auditor Consistency as presented to the NMC.
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11.0
NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
A discussion took place regarding expiration dates on Nadcap certification given to Suppliers
The AQS Task Group agreed that the expiration dates should be put back on the certifications. As
this is outside of the Task Group’s control, the AQS Staff Engineer will take this back to PRI for
consideration.
Mark Covert suggested reviewing the justification form that SpiritAero uses for attending
Nadcap trips to senior management.
The decision to not provide Meeting Feedback was stopped by decision made during the Planning
and Operations meeting. A new feedback form may be developed to better gather information.
Susan Frailey discussed and presented the New Technology Survey per request of NMC.
Susan Frailey reviewed the Mission Statement.
Motion made by Bob Bodemuller to accept Mission Statement with no modifications and seconded
by Robin Borrelli. Motion Passed
ACTION ITEM: Harold Finch to send Susan Frailey and Task Group the justification form. (DUE DATE:
15-JUL-11)
12.0
NEW BUSINESS – CLOSED
Harold Finch has taking the Secretary role for AQS for Steve Meyer. Harold will also assume Steve
Meyer’s Liaison position for Welding starting in October 2011.
13.0
AUDIT & AUDITOR REVIEW – CLOSED
A question came up on how to “Reject” an audit in eAuditNet. Susan demonstrated this process
through the website for the task group.
14.0
MEETING FEEDBACK – CLOSED
No meeting feedback was given during this meeting
ADJOURNMENT – 24-JUNE-11
Motion made by Bob Bodemiller and seconded by Harold Finch to adjourn. Motion Passed
Minutes Prepared by: Harold Finch - harold.j.finch@spiritaero.com
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***** For PRI Staff use only: ******
Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved
during this meeting? (select one)
YES*
NO
*If yes, the following information is required:
Documents requiring
revision:
Who is responsible:
NTGOP 001 Appendix 6
AQS
Susan Frailey
Due date:
08/31/2011
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