Page 1 of 4 Amy Cooper From: IPC Enquiries Sent: 21 February 2011 09:51 To: Robert Ranger Cc: Mark Wilson; Janet Wilson Subject: FW: Applicable to other complex areas including power renewal: Useful bank analysis in 10 years the banks got ten times larger but 10 times less robust in capital: for central and treasury units: Sub primes and derivatives From: CHRIS EAGLEN [mailto:chris.eaglen@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:53 AM To: IPC Enquiries Cc: john.parker@ngrid.com; jessica.satur@edfenergy.com; richard.mayson@edf-energy.com; osborneg@parliament.uk; a.travers@lse.ac.uk; huhnec@parliament.uk Subject: Applicable to other complex areas including power renewal: Useful bank analysis in 10 years the banks got ten times larger but 10 times less robust in capital: for central and treasury units: Sub primes and derivatives Dear Sirs and PAs, Reason you may consinder the benefits for Peer to Peer review and RASP analysis to adjust where the UK is and where it is going for the long term security of nuclear powers role and implementations as the UK no longer has a CEGB to provide some coordination and regulation: Success is getting the deliver and selections better through a reflective review and sort out the gaps opening currently This link opens the 30 minute programme you may like to listen to regarding changing quantative and qualitative analyses. People are talking more about systems thinking. Comparing one isolated situation is seen as a shortcoming, not the context. These are of interest for the review of the large projects and contexts. Reasons for fragility is addressed and the comparison of some power and banking features. Thank you Best regards 21/02/2011 Page 2 of 4 Chris Eaglen BBC - BBC Radio 4 Programmes - Scientists of the Subprime Ehsan Masood examines how science could help prevent future banking crises. ... Available to listen. Last broadcast on Thursday, 21:00 on BBC Radio 4. ... www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yjs4m - Cached ► BBC News - Can biology explain the global credit crunch? 17 Feb 2011 ... Economists are turning to science to find the best ways to ... www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12479998 - Cached Scientists of the Subprime: Can biologists avert another banking crisis? Biology is providing surprising insights into the financial crisis that brought the banking system to its knees. A radio documentary presented by Ehsan Masood investigates • Scientists of the Subprime will be broadcast at 9pm on Thursday 17 February on BBC Radio 4 z { { Share85 { { z Comments (3) Ecosystems collapse when there is too little diversity and a high degree of connectedness between species. Photograph: Mike Segar/Reuters For the past few weeks I've been talking to biologists who are advising the Bank of England 21/02/2011 Page 3 of 4 on how to reform global finance, as part of a documentary for BBC Radio 4. I've been struck by the ease with which biologists have been able to step outside their research field and move confidently and assertively into another. But what exactly are they up to? One of the causes of the financial crisis – and the haphazard international response to it – was that regulators and governments lacked the tools to understand the banking system as a whole. They knew what individual banks were doing, and they knew that these banks had myriad links to other banks, but they couldn't tell with any certainty what this meant for the banking system overall – until that is, it was much too late. Making sense of the relationship between the individual and the system is one of science's oldest challenges. What might be new to banking is well-studied in biology, for example. This prompted Bob May, ecologist and former government chief scientific adviser, to approach the governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King with an offer of help and advice. Could there be, he wondered, any parallels between banking and ecosystems? Drawing on their knowledge of the study of species and ecosystems, May and several others including Andrew Haldane, the Bank of England's executive director for financial security, constructed a model of the banking system. May has helped pioneer the idea that the most stable ecosystems are those with a diversity of species. Less stable ecosystems have less diversity and a higher degree of connectedness between species. The banking model, which was published last month in the journal Nature, revealed a system that was not only relatively homogeneous – lots of banks with similar characteristics, doing the same things – but also super-connected. As with ecosystems, the model showed that such a system was also vulnerable to shocks. This finding is likely to add weight to a view already gaining ground in the Treasury that there needs to be more diversity in banking and that the same institutions should not be allowed to act as both retail banks and investment banks – in other words, less connectivity. The biologists also applied their knowledge from a different field – infectious disease epidemiology – to see if there are any lessons for finance. They found one that also has implications for regulators. In the event of a disease outbreak, organisations such as the World Health Organisation quickly trace the biggest sources of infection. If it's a disease affecting humans, such as a variety of flu, these "super-spreaders" need to be isolated from the rest of the population. In the case of animal disease – such as foot and mouth – infected animals need to be culled. Applying this analogy to banking threw up some interesting suggestions. Banking's equivalent to super-spreaders could be seen as those institutions with the most toxic debt – the "sub-prime mortgages" that were not being repaid. Yet, when the crisis struck, instead of isolating these banks or allowing them to go to the wall, the last Labour government did the opposite: it fattened the banking super-spreaders with taxpayer money and in some cases forced them to get bigger by arranging their mergers with other banks. If the analogy from biology is correct, the next time such a crisis hits, banks in the most trouble may need to be allowed to fail. You can tell when a research field has "arrived" when influential folks from other walks of life start to pay attention, read up on the literature and make time in their busy lives to attend academic seminars. In that sense, biology really has arrived. Until recently, economists and sociologists were the ones who were confidently poking their noses into areas outside their own field. People such as the economist Jeffrey Sachs and the sociologists Anthony Giddens and the late Ralf Dahrendorf are past masters of this art. Both sociology and economics are now having to deal with their own internal problems. Having failed to deliver when it was needed most, economics in particular is in crisis, prompting the financier George Soros to set up an Institute for New Economic Thinking in New York City, a kind of remedial school for practitioners of the dismal science. With economists in therapy, a gap for new thinking has opened up and biologists are moving in with relish. Ehsan Masood is editor of Research Fortnight. Scientists of the Subprime will be broadcast at 9pm on Thursday 17 February on BBC Radio 4 This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet antivirus service supplied by Cable&Wireless Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2009/09/0052.) In case of problems, please call your organisation’s IT Helpdesk. 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