Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html October 15, 1999 Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades Related Article Shares Halt Two-Day Slide, but Inflation Fears Persist (Oct. 15, 1999) By JONATHAN FUERBRINGER EW YORK -- If the forecasts of Wall Street economists are often so wrong, how do they keep their jobs? How do they make any money? Those are fair questions after a string of years -- including 1999 -when many seers of Wall Street missed their calls on interest rates, were wrong on the direction of Federal Reserve policy, and substantially underestimated economic growth and even overestimated inflation. From 1996 through 1998, for example, the consensus economic forecast at the start of the year turned out to be, on average, 1.4 percentage points below the actual annual growth rate, according to the Blue Chip Economic Indicators. The consensus estimate for 1999 -- 2.4 percent as recently as January -- is well below the 3.4 percent growth rate in the nation's gross domestic product for the first six months of the year. It is likely to be even further off the mark for the full year. The answer is that Wall Street economists forecast because they have to. But their money-making product is a stream of, they hope, good ideas about how the economy works that stimulates the thinking of the money managers that make up much of their clientele. Advertisement "People wanting to read what you write and learn how you're 1 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html thinking about substantive matters is more important than whether you are precisely right in your macro forecasts of GDP or interest rates," said Charley Ellis, managing partner at Greenwich Associates, which assesses Wall Street performance by interviewing institutional investors. This research -- whether a long-term analysis of the surprising rise in productivity or an instant interpretation of the newest employment report -- plays an integral role in most Wall Street firms and smaller boutiques. Research is the everyday grist for a firm's sales representatives, who deal with clients on a regular basis. It is used to attract clients who then trade through the firm or compensate it in other ways, adding to profits. "Research helps write trading tickets," said Donald H. Layton, Chase Manhattan Bank's vice chairman in charge of overseeing its global market business. John Lipsky, the chief economist and the director of research at Chase, and Robert J. Barbera, chief economist at Hoenig & Co., are two such economists from the 50-odd firms constantly scrambling to get the attention of money managers. Both, who themselves spend a third of their time seeing clients, have to contend with the economists at the Wall Street leaders in this business, including Bruce Steinberg at Merrill Lynch and Stephen S. Roach at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. It is a business whose top players have not changed very much in the last several years, according to Greenwich Associates. But that only intensifies the challenge to come up with the Next Big Idea. One of the most attention-grabbing ideas this year came from Edward Yardeni, chief economist at Deutsche Bank Securities. He argued that year 2000 computer disruptions would cause a recession in the beginning of next year. Even if it proves wrong, the idea forced many money managers to address the issue. But good ideas, right or wrong, are not easy to come by. "If we have three great ideas in a year that is a home run year," said Richard Berner, chief U. S. economist at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. Lipsky, 52, heads Chase's 120-person research team, which is striving to become one of the major players on the Street. He was chief economist at Salomon Brothers before coming to Chase in 1997. Before that he worked for Salomon in London and New York, after a decade at the International Monetary Fund. "No one is able to consistently foresee specific market developments far into the future," said Lipsky, who speaks to hundreds of clients 2 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html all over the world. "That is why forecasts are inevitably revised as new facts emerge." An economist's real job, he explained, is to "help our clients organize their own thinking, even if they come to different conclusions about market implications. We are doing the digging, analysis and thinking that they would do if they had the time." Chase's 1998 forecast, done by Lipsky and his research staff, shows how a forecast can be off-base on growth but still contain crucial insights. While predicting about 1.5 percent growth -- which was off by 2.4 percentage points -- Chase said that long-term interest rates would fall toward 5 percent, which was correct, and that inflation would decline to about 1.5 percent, also correct. A forecast that the Federal Reserve would cut interest rates, based in part on the expected decline in inflation and helped by the deepening of the world financial crisis, was also on the mark. For 1999, Chase has gone astray again, missing on interest rates, Federal Reserve policy and economic growth. On the other hand, overall inflation, although slightly higher, is still contained -- one of Lipsky's main themes. The forecast of a stronger than expected dollar early in the year was a contrarian gem. But Lee Thomas, senior international portfolio manager at the Pacific Investment Management Co. in Newport Beach, Calif., the world's largest active bond manager, brushes off the muffs. "His forecast record changed from last year to this year," he said of Lipsky, "but the quality of his ideas has not changed. "It is your job," Thomas said of money managers like himself, "to sit down and decide which idea makes sense and construct your own world view." It is the economist's job, he said, "to explain a theme that catalyzes my thinking." Barbera, 47, left the heart of Wall Street after seven years at Lehman Brothers to become a sole practitioner at Hoenig & Co., a small brokerage firm based in Rye Brook, N.Y. He scored this year with his contention that Japan's economy would rebound and, even more strikingly, last year with his contrarian theme that the pain in Asia would be a gain for the United States. Barbera reasoned, correctly, that the recession in Asia would lead to lower inflation, lower interest rates and more growth in the United States. "I get paid for looking out for what might change the conventional view," Barbera said. "There is a small list of portfolio managers who think I have something to deliver and we talk." 3 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html Paul DeRosa, a partner at Mount Lucas Management, an asset management company in Princeton, N.J., and one of Barbera's 60 clients, said: "The money is made and lost in interpreting situations as they develop." This is what he counts on from Barbera. In the summer of 1998, as the Asian economic crisis spread to Russia and Latin America, DeRosa said that Barbera was quick to say that the situation would force the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates, which it did three times. While getting this right, DeRosa said that Barbera did not foresee the big rally in the bond market that occurred the previous year. The de-emphasis on economic forecasting, obviously, is partly the result of being wrong so often. But it also reflects how the once-revered job of forecasting has become little more than a basic commodity in a world where just about everybody has access to his own black box. "I can decide what way interest rates are going," said Rob Kapito, vice chairman of Black Rock Management, an asset management company, and a client of Lipsky. The decline of forecasting is reflected in the name change of the National Association of Business Economists to the National Association for Business Economics. The association's membership has fallen substantially as many corporations turned from reliance on teams of macro-economists who were supposed to predict the overall economy to smaller groups of micro-economists focused on specific markets. In addition, forecasts, even when they are right, are no longer enough for most clients. With just a forecast, Barbera said, "you are simply asking clients to bet on your black box and good portfolio managers won't do that." What portfolio managers do want instead is easy access to good idea merchants. Thomas of Pacific Investment, who sees Lipsky three to five times a year, said that he narrows the choice of who he trades through based on the quality of the ideas from the economists he talks to. Despite Lipsky's forecasting misses, Chase is being called as often as last year. On the other end of the trade, Peter Frey, the head of credit market sales at J.P. Morgan Securities, said: "It is not clear that there is a 4 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html good correlation between how precise our forecasting calls are and our pay back," he said. "The correlation between the access and dialogue we give our clients and our pay back is clearer." Firms also rely, at least in part, on their economists' views when they bet their own money on movements in the market. Lipsky's views are considered, for example, when Chase stress tests its own bets in the financial markets to assess the amount of risk it is taking. His sense that the world's economic crisis was deepening in the summer of 1998 played a role in Chase's decision to count on interest rates to decline as investors ran to the safety of the bond market. "We act with even more conviction when the views of the economist are aligned with those of the traders," said Ina Drew, head of the domestic treasury at Chase. That successful bet was one reason why Chase reported record earnings in the fourth quarter last year even as some of its rivals reported profit declines for the same period. Layton also said that Lipsky's connections to international financial leaders around the world can help in getting underwriting business for the bank when countries, especially in emerging markets, issue new debt or privatize a state-owned company. Economists are also useful to money managers who disagree with their views. Kapito of Black Rock Management, for instance, said that although he disputed Lipsky's argument that inflation would remain contained, the reasoning helped Black Rock form its own view that inflation was at a bottom and likely to move higher, even if only modestly. On this basis, Black Rock decided to buy more of the Treasury's bonds that are indexed to inflation and rise in value when inflation expectations rise. Barbera likes to provide his clients with what he calls signposts. For example, as early as February this year he was writing that the Japanese economy would recover this year. Along with his reasons for the recovery, he listed developments money managers could watch on their own to see if the recovery was developing along the lines he predicted. For example, Barbera said that the confidence level among the executives of smaller Japanese companies would rise and that the bankruptcy rate would fall. "I happened to agree with that and so we made a small play in Nikkei futures that have done very well," said DeRosa of Mount Lucas Management. "You cast a wide net," Barbera said, "and try to catch on to one or two things that have changed in a specific fashion that could have an 5 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM Right or Wrong, Wall Street Economists Generate Ideas and Trades wysiwyg://3/http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/wall-economist.html impact on things. But you never catch it all." Home | Site Index | Site Search | Forums | Archives | Marketplace Quick News | Page One Plus | International | National/N.Y. | Business | Technology | Science | Sports | Weather | Editorial | Op-Ed | Arts | Automobiles | Books | Diversions | Job Market | Real Estate | Travel Help/Feedback | Classifieds | Services | New York Today Copyright 1999 The New York Times Company 6 of 6 10/15/99 9:22 AM