O’Connor, Flannery – The Complete Stories Stories Good Country People A Good Man is Hard to Find Geranium Revelation (Article about Virginia Key) Discussion questions Use of the N word Repetition of elements Semi-autobiographical Away at Master’s program // Geranium Home // other stories Repetition of theme Compare the class conflicts involved with the young women in “Revelation”, “A Good Man Is Hard to Find”, and/or “Good Country People” (and discuss possible connections with the author). North v south How do the stories demonstrate class differences? Are they surpassed? Repetition of character elements Compare the young women in “Revelation” and “Good Country People” (and discuss possible connections with the author). Repetition of theme Compare the moments of sudden understanding found in the 4 stories. Geranium: black neighbor v neighbor with geranium Good Man: ‘My son’ Good Country: con / Mrs. Freeman comment Revelation: Job / prodigal son Geranium: black neighbor turns out to be helpful. Neighbor with geranium, symbol of his past life, threatens him. Repetition of theme If it was intentional, how was the order of the summer reading lists intended to impart a message? Problem: Evil in southern? society Good Country People A Good Man is Hard to Find Geranium Solution: Revelation: Retelling of Job (Haun) + Prodigal Son: pigs Notes of student discussion Geranium discussion notes Symbolism Why does the geranium upset him? What does the geranium represent? Flashbacks: reminds him of where he came from. His one constant: memories // flower Ex. AA people not something in S v N Ex. He was something in the S, not up N He / neighbor had geranium back home. Anchor Symbolized the old man Uprooted (ending) // him In the building v in south close to the ground // geranium in pot v in ground in the South Out of place, didn't fit in Old man die? Geranium falls // old man Shattered truth (Minh) Change Reminds him of the crippled young man in S // he’s psychologically crippled? Represents South? Southern flower? His breaking point? / Moment of truth? Gap between himself and neighbor // alienation Disconnected from memories // Geranium disappeared Geranium broken // Life in city is broken Repetition of elements (Checkov's Gun) / Suspense Committed suicide? Suicidal ideations Shotgun Geranium Trips down stairs Elevated train, daughter says, “You’ll kill yourself”. Uprooted Shotgun + AA connection Flashback almost shooting friend Caught pretending to shoot on stairs by AA neighbor Represents his frustration about race? Gun and AA Everything has changed. AA owned gun. Daughter do the right thing? Alone Uprooted Let the old man die where he was happy. Goes through how he made the decision; Not necessarily her fault. Characterization Old man Stubborn Defiant Setting Transition more from past to present Miserable present v rich past: climbing stairs, what a life! Diction: word choices N-word Contrast between city & country Student: Got used to it. (Article about Virginia Key) Repetition / Checkhov's gun Throat nx Cries at the end. Repetition / Checkhov's gun Stare // feels disconnected Stares nx (pp. 6, end) You're no one. Paranoia What's the opposite of love? Indifference. South knew everyone. Talking about himself. Stares at geranium. Stares from a distance. Like the geranium, you are an object to be stared at. Staring at himself, but he doesn’t realize it. Characterization: dependent Took care of old ladies v now being taken care of by his daughter. Autobiographical elements Leaving south In identifying with Dudley, was Flannery a racist or showing it as wrong? Now he's the N. He was something in the S In S, helped others. Final irony Insulted the black man who helped him. Black neighbor turns out to be helpful. White neighbor with geranium, symbol of his past life, threatens him. Good Country People discussion notes Theme Why did the Bible salesman steal the leg? What is the deal with his obsession with the wooden leg? Con man Wanted to sell it? Stole people's stuff. Collector Power Prize / souvenir Selling Bibles + collecting artifacts // medieval salesmen of Jesus cross pieces. Selling word of God & collecting trophies of the bizarre morbid curiosities // Mrs. Freeman collects & tells stories of same) // Flannery O'Connor's religious feelings? Mental rape Left her defenseless Repetition / Diction Child nx (287) // Joy? Theme: religion v goodness Theme: appearances Why is he able to trick people so easily? Appearance Good appearance A Man from God // Mrs. Freeman Theme, repetition: education v schooling Characterization Irony How is he able to get to her, being so well-educated / schooled? Fell in love Insecure - > Stayed in school Safe in school Didn't love him. (Thought she was manipulating him.) He gave her what she wanted. Had to grow up real fast. Never lost her innocence. She felt like a child. He was fathering her. She is the most innocent character in the stories. Book smart v street smart She thinks she’s is smarter than everyone. She thinks he's an idiot. She says, “What do I have to lose?” Never going to get an opportunity like that again. Education / schooling doesn't help her. (Leg = crutch // education / schooling) Theme: loneliness She knew there was some danger. (Wanted some excitement?) Felt special. Someone giving her attention. Theme: innocent-seeming people backstab you (Dairon) Freeman & Salesman Feel sorry for Bible salesman Heart condition // Joy (?) Dairon, people with disabilities Oddballs in family (Fun to talk about Flannery stories) Theme: Morbid interest Ms. Freeman likes that sort of thing. Bible man Human nature About things not run of the mill ex. Ripley's ex. Online videos (of cannibalism?) As long as it's not you. Remind you of mortality (Jose). Good and bad in each of us. (Language?) Characterization, cont’d Hulga invites Nothing good happened to her. Atheist v Bible salesman Ugly / fat Ego Thinks she's taking advantage of Bible salesman. He takes her down a peg. PhD made up for not having a leg (Michelot). Thought he could take advantage of her. Joy: Lack of attention. Did not care about anything. Disconnected. Irony Who else needed to get taken down a peg (no pun intended)? Mom Referring to Bible salesman / Freeman as ‘good country people’. Bitterness, resentment, class conflict Lower class people get a leg up on the upper class people. Theme, title Is there such thing as good country people / good people? All characters + and So keep your eyes open Recognize people are good and bad Title ironic Everyone has own definition of good (Anthony) (Watts, Zen: people who live by simplified formulas can be fooled.) // Revelation Mother does things that she criticizes. Good / evil Con: good at conning Why is Mrs. Freeman mentioned in the beginning of the story? Frame narrative Freeman / Mom / Joy, end reversed Effect: everybody watching Joy. Joy seems most affected / damaged. Joy acts out. Dresses like a girl. Freeman ruins this game when she calls her “Hulga”. Good Man is Hard to Find How can the family have survived? Recognizes the misfit. Grandma's fault? Responsible for going down the dirt road. Grandmother brought the cat to keep it from dying Cat causes the crash NT: He who saves his life will lose it. Road to hell paved with good intentions Being selfish. She who tries to save her cat will lose it. Why does she say that Misfit is her child? Religion Deeper connections Religious debate. (Jesus hung out with sinners). Eyes: Saw the good in him. Make him reconsider? Selfish? Serial killers intimate act (Ana) Misfit needs to kill. Intimate Jesus Hung out with people who betrayed him, denied him. (Parties: water to wine) (Thieves) Prostitutes Lepers Blind people Diseased Why wouldn't she be selfish? Misfit realizes philosophy is flawed. Why does the Misfit leave the GM last? It was her fault. Would have been a good woman if shot every day. (Torture made her see). Was it her fault? Random Wrong place at wrong time. Warned family Manipulated Brought her cat even though son didn't want it. Misfit didn't have to shoot them. She who tries to save her cat will end up being killed by her. She who tries to save her cat will lose it. Acts like a good Christian - > Becomes a good Christian Irony: Title // Good Country People No good people? Misfit? Playing on goodness theme. Misfit blames Jesus // We blame the GM for deaths. Pd. 5 Geranium just a flower? No good people at end of story? (Bookmark pd. 7 10/3) Both Eyes = Checkov's gun Paradoxes Is a good man hard to find? (Maybe you have to open your eyes). Based on one's morality. Some have a morality. (GM a widow looking for a good man? Morbid fascination with Misfit // sexuality // Good Country People) Revelation Theme: schooling v education Irony Why did the girl attack the old lady? (Michelot) Angry about how ignorant the lady seemed. Schooled “Human Development” Wires crossed Realizes that the South is not great (Flannery? Student? Both?) Schooled, but an animal // woman: good, but racist (Theme good / evil, everyone +/-) Girl and the pigs connection? Image at end? Why does it bother her so much being called pig? Mentally disturbed? Cared about social status (College girl knows how to hit where it hurts.) (Fat?) Why is she so obsessed with social status? Social order mentioned What role did the people in the waiting room play? Medium of the transmission of her revelation (Trabanino). What is her fault? Considers herself better than others. Stubborn? Took her a long time. Blind? Biblical references / allusions Prodigal son Hard-working son complains // woman. Sinners should be saved. Everyone's a sinner. Son worked with and had revelation with pigs // main character. Job