A poem by Lawson: A backward glance It is well when you’ve lived in clover, To mourn for the days gone by— Would I live the same life over Could I live again? Not I! But, knowing the false from the real, I would strive to ascend: I would seek out my boyhood’s ideal, And follow it to the end. A poem by Paterson: A triolet Of all the sickly forms of verse, Commend me to the triolet. It makes bad writers somewhat worse: Of all the sickly forms of verse, That fall beneath a reader's curse, It is the feeblest jingle yet. Of all the sickly forms of verse, Commend me to the triolet. Purpose of the poems: I think the that the purpose of the first poem is to convince you that you have to follow your dreams. Lawson What do the poems have in common? - Both poems consist out of 8 lines. - They both rhyme. - Both poems are a monologue, they are told by one person. - Each poem consists out of one stanza (8 lines per stanza). Are there any differences? - The subject is different. - In Paterson’s poem, descriptive language is used, in the other poem, that’s not the case. - Lawson uses the word ‘I’ a lot, which means he tells about himself. Paterson doesn’t use ‘I’ but uses ‘me’ instead. - Much repetition is used in the second poem, of Paterson. - ‘The feeblest jingle’ is a metaphor, while there aren’t any metaphors in Lawson’s poem. Rudyard Kipling If If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools: If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!' If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, ‘Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch, if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man What is the poem ‘If…’ about? I think the poem is about self-confidence. According to Kipling, you’ll be a man when you don’t care about what everyone says, but you just stay yourself. Why do you think so? Because Kipling mentions all kind of examples about being yourself and don’t letting anyone or anything have influence on you. “If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you.” “If you can dream - and not make dreams your master.” “If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim.” Which poetic devices are used? - Much repetition is used, every sentence starts with ‘If’. - ‘Walk with kings’ is a metaphor, because you’re not literally going to walk with kings. Do you like the poem? Why? Or why not? A bit, it’s quit discriminating, because it’s only about men. But in my opinion, this counts for women too. But that isn’t mentioned in the poem. Accept for this, I like it. It’s a good poem, not too long, not too short. Also, this poem is wellwritten which makes it nice to read so it isn’t boring. Edgar Allen Poe The Bells Hear the sledges with the bells Silver bells! What a world of merriment their melody foretells! How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, In the icy air of night! While the stars that oversprinkle All the heavens, seem to twinkle With a crystalline delight; Keeping time, time, time, In a sort of Runic rhyme, To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells From the bells, bells, bells, bells, Bells, bells, bells From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. How do you think this poem should be told? What expression is required for it to be effective? In my opinion this poem has to be told with happiness. It’s a nice, cheerful poem about music and melody. So the poem has to be told with some kind of melody. If this poem is told monotonous, it will not be effective and it will seem very boring. I think that’s the case with every poem, so also with this one. Would a male or female voice help you to understand the poem better? I don’t think it matters who tells the poem, as long as it’s told with melody and expression. How about background music? Would that make a difference to your understanding? Yes, I belief it matters what the background music is. To help people to understand the poem, good background music would be the sound of ringing bells. That’s where the poem is about, so you will understand what’s meant by the poem. Take a look at the website. What was the best version of the poem? The female voice with emotion worked best. Why do you think the way in which the poem is told makes a difference to the listeners understanding? When a poem is told without emotion and/or expression, it becomes really boring to listen to. A boring poem is harder to understand, than an entertaining poem, because you don’t want to listen or to understand it. Robert Frost Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening’ Whose woods these are I think I know. His house is in the village though; He will not see me stopping here To watch his woods fill up with snow. My little horse must think it queer To stop without a farmhouse near Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year. He gives his harness bells a shake To ask if there is some mistake. The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. It is the middle of Winter. The speaker feels guilty and uncertain about stopping. Directly Supported by Poem (copy evidence from poem in space provided) “To watch his woods fill up with snow.” “Between the woods and frozen lake.” It’s very cold and there’s snow, so it’s very likely to be in winter. Inference based on Evidence (copy evidence from poem in space provided) “The darkest evening of the year.” The longest night is on the 21th of December, which is the first day in Winter. Therefore, it is not in the middle of the winter, but at the beginning. “My little horse must think it queer, to stop without a farmhouse near.” He doesn’t say anything Not supported by evidence (check box only) about quilt, his horse just might find it strange to stop there. The speaker has lost his way. At the end of the poem, the speaker and his horse leave the woods and head home. The speaker thinks uneasily about his own death. The owner of the woods and the speaker don't get along. The speaker admires the snowy woods and is attracted to its stark beauty and solitude. X X X X “The woods are lovely, dark and deep.” Emily Dickinson ‘I’m Nobody! Who are you?’ I'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you -- Nobody -- Too? Then there's a pair of us! Don't tell! they'd advertise -- you know! How dreary -- to be -- Somebody! How public -- like a Frog -To tell one's name -- the livelong June -To an admiring Bog! Which of Dickinson’s characteristics relate to this poem? She never married or worked outside her home. She wasn’t important; she was just an ordinary woman caring for her parents. Until she became famous because of the poems she had written. ‘Pain – has an element of blank’ Pain has an element of blank; It cannot recollect When it began, or if there were A day when it was not. It has no future but itself, Its infinite realms contain Its past, enlightened to perceive New periods of pain. What does this poem mean to you? Pain has no life and it can’t decide when it’s going to come. Everyone feels pain, sometimes, but there’s no way to avoid it. Though you can avoid some pain, it’s just impossible not to feel any pain in your life, you have to accept that. Lewis Carroll Jabberwocky 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!" He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought— So rested he by the Tumtum tree, And stood awhile in thought. And, as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came! One, two! One, two! And through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back. "And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" He chortled in his joy. 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. What do you like about this poem? The structure is very nice; the first stanza is the same as the last one. Also, I prefer poems that rhyme and this one does so. The rhyme makes it quit funny, too. What do you dislike about the poem? It’s too short; the actions aren’t described, though many adjectives are used. If the fighting for example would have been described more and better, I would have had a clearer view of what happened. What puzzles you about this poem? I think it’s strange that a boy can defeat such an extremely dangerous beast, while nobody else can. He’s warned for the beast, but he goes searching for it. He finds the beats and kills him easily. I wonder how he managed to do that… What questions would you ask the author? - Where did you get your inspiration from? - Why didn’t the beast defeat the boy? - Why did you repeat the first stanza? Do you think the ‘nonsense’ words in this poem are effective? Why? Or why not? I think they’re effective; they make the poem funny and nice to read. It gives you the ability to imagine the beast, you can make it look how you want it to look, because it doesn’t exists.