IEEE PCIC Codes & Regulations Subcommittee
September 7, 2014, San Francisco, CA
Approved Meeting Minutes
Chair Rich Hulett called the meeting to order at 3:30 pm.
Attendance rosters were circulated. A total of 50 people were present plus 1 excused absence. Attendance consisted of 28
of 39 voting members, 17 aspirant members and 5 observers.
2014
Attendance.xlsx
Voting Members.pptx
The agenda was reviewed. There was a motion to approve the agenda. The motion was approved, as there was no
objection to unanimous consent.
Agenda
Minutes from the 2013 meeting were reviewed. There was a motion to approve the minutes. The motion was approved, as
there was no objection to unanimous consent.
Link to 2013 Minutes
Tim Driscoll provided an update on the 2015 Canadian Electric Code. Significant changes that affect industrial applications
and major rewrites were discussed. New definitions, changes in ampacity rules, and revisions of Section 18 (Hazardous
Locations) and Section 62 (Fixed Electrical Space and Surface Heating Systems) and are summarized in the embedded
presentation.
CEC 2015
Ed Larsen gave an overview of the NFPA NEC proposal system. Those wishing to submit Public Input (formerly Proposals)
for the next revision are encouraged to use the online submission process, which makes it much easier to comply with the
requirement to mark-up existing text. The Public Input closing date is 11/7/2014 for online submissions and 10/3/2014 for
paper submissions. For addition information on the new process, refer to this training video, the embedded presentation,
and the NFPA 70 next edition webpage.
NFPA Process.ppt
The IEEE Standards Correlating Committee (SCC) 18 is still looking for representation on some Code Making Panels (CMPs).
Contact Ed Larsen at ed.larsen@ieee.org if you would like additional information, to get involved in SCC 18, or to become a
candidate for a CMP position.
Eight public inputs were presented during the meeting. Following discussion and suggestions to improve proposals,
members voted to approve five of the proposals for consideration of IEEE support. Results are summarized in Table 1. All
proposals that received Codes & Regs Subcommittee support will be presented for consideration at the next PCIC Executive
Subcommittee meeting.
The next meeting will be held October 4, 2014 at PCIC in Houston, TX.
Meeting was adjourned at 5:16 pm.
Minutes submitted by Rachel Bugaris, Secretary
Table 1 - Summary of Public Inputs and Subcommittee Voting Results
Article
427.1
427.20
Vote
Approved
(28 in favor, 0 opposed, 0 abstain)
Approved with revised language
(28 in favor, 0 opposed, 0 abstain)
240.87
427.27
427.27
A) Approved
(26 in favor, 2 opposed, 0 abstain)
B) Approved
(25 in favor, 2 opposed, 1 abstain)
Approved with revised language
(27 in favor, 0 opposed, 1 abstain)
No vote
Alternate proposal preferred
Description & Discussion
Submitted by Ben Johnson
Modify informational note in scope to reference active
IEEE standard
Submitted by Ben Johnson
Clarify language to reflect intent to mark each wire of
factory assembled heating units. Proposal to be revised
by replacing “one or both” with “all”
Submitted by Rich Holub
Based on discussion, will revise as two separate
proposals:
A) Add instantaneous trip as a method and strike
approved equivalent means (redundant in description)
B) Add exception for maintenance and supervision
Submitted by Neal Fenster
Revise proposal to specify that ground fault protection is
for equipment, not personnel.
Suggest making a presentation at next CMP meeting to
support proposal
Submitted by Neal Fenster
Alternative proposal
PI Draft
427.1
427.20
240.87
427.27 Add.pdf
427.27 remove.pdf
426.32
426.32
240.87
Approved with revised language
(27 in favor, 0 opposed, 1 abstain)
No vote
Alternate proposal preferred
No vote
After lengthy discussion, quorum was
not established to proceed to vote.
Submitted by Neal Fenster
Revise proposal to specify that ground fault protection is
for equipment, not personnel.
Suggest making a presentation at next CMP meeting to
support proposal
Submitted by Neal Fenster
Alternative proposal
Submitted by Marcelo Valdez
Make distinction between remedies for mains/feeders
and include options for systems with fuses, not just
circuit breakers.
426.32 Add.pdf
426.32 remove.pdf
Background
240.87_b