[Type here] A VIEW OF CHRISTIANITY. During the World War 1, most of the men that were killed and most of the men that killed them, were Christians. All the countries involved were deeply Christian countries except Turkey and they were deeply Moslem. At Christmas, the shelling and killing stopped for a day to celebrate the birth of the God of love, and the next day the Christians resumed slaughtering each other. In World War 2 all the European countries involved were Christian countries except Russia, and even in Communist Russia most of the people were still Christian. Germany was and is a very Christian country and Hitler was a baptised Catholic, was assisted in his election by all the churches and supported until the very end by the Church. When that War ended in 1945 I was ten years old, had experienced bombings in Barnet and Canterbury, seen and knew of some of the death and destruction that resulted from that conflict, and the terrible things that were done to innocent people including children. In spite of the fact I was born in Canterbury, the centre of the Church of England and had a Christian upbringing, my common-sense told me that there was no God or Jesus up there caring for me or anyone else. Later reading Bertrand Russell’s book “The Scourge of the Swastika” confirmed this. Nothing I have seen or experienced or learned during the sixty eight years since then, in my extensive travels and voyages under sail around the world, and a full and busy life that has included three marriages and three divorces, several children and six grandchildren, has made me doubt this even for a minute, each day I have become a more convinced atheist. I have witnessed the dreadful conditions that women have to suffer in the very worst fundamentalist religious states such as The Sudan. Several other experiences have led me to heartily detest religion, one of which I will relate here. During my circumnavigation aboard my boat, I stayed several months in Cyprus and formed a relationship with a lady tour guide there. On a trip to mountain villages we were short of petrol, the police station advised that the local priest kept cans of fuel because there was no petrol garage in the village. While I was putting the petrol in the car the priest, a tall, fat bearded man in a grubby black robe, took my friend into the church, locked the door behind him and grabbed her and violently sexually assaulted her, shoving his fingers into her. 1 [Type here] While doing this he was telling her not to tell me, or anyone what he was doing, or she would never work on the island again, and no one would take her word against his. I could hear her crying inside the church and hammered and kicked on the door. Eventually, she was shoved out and the door slammed. She was very distressed but begged me not to go to the police or try to get at him myself. She really believed his threats, and it was obvious that she was very afraid of him. When I pointed out that he was probably doing the same thing to the females of the village, she still refused to report him saying that this was part of the culture. He will still be getting away with this to this day. Through my working life, the fact that religion was losing its grip on society over the years was only of mild interest to me and I regarded this as a positive development. But of recent years religion is fighting back, and once again trying to exert an influence on the life of all of us. The churches are concentrating on putting more believers into positions of power such as Blair and Brown, Bush and Cheney, Australia has mostly Christians in Parliament both State and Federal and for the first time in its history Britain has a “Minister for Faith,” Baroness Farsi, a Moslem, a declared Christian Minister for Education, and another for home affairs. In the U.K. and Australia more and more schools are being taken over by the churches and religious groups of all creeds, and in Australia where I have lived for thirty eight years, I found to my concern that I had six grandchildren all attending sectarian private schools. This happened because my daughter’s husband had been raised in a Christian boarding school, and sent his son, my oldest grandchild, to an expensive radical Presbyterian school in Sydney and when twin girls followed they too were sent to a Faith based Christian private school. My son’s wife, not to be outdone, sent her three boys to a similar, but not so strongly so, Christian faith school, and my son went along with it. So one can see how the system grows, from one brainwashed child, my son in law, follows six new unsullied heads to warp. It should be obvious to anyone that the only reason that any religious organisation would be interested in running schools is because of the opportunities it offers to indoctrinate children, and so secure the next generation of contributors to the churches coffers. Both Australia and Britain support these schools with taxpayer money, even though my daughter works hard almost exclusively to pay school fees. 2 [Type here] I kept my opinions on this to myself until one day my daughter asked me to attend a “grandparent and godparent” day at Scots College, my grandson’s school. As I walked up the drive to this very posh establishment I saw a large terracotta plaque set into the wall on high that said “TO THE GLORY OF GOD,” nothing about education. I had seen these same words, in Spanish, engraved on the machines of torture and death in the Museo de la Inquisition in Cartagena, Colombia. Thousands of innocent souls died dreadfully in this place, in the name of, and to the glory of, this God. In my grandson’s class he showed me his desk and work, I thought that there was a lot of scripture and asked him about this. He said that there were daily prayers, several scripture lessons a week and an hour each week “one on one” with the Chaplain. I asked what the Chaplain was teaching him that week, he said “about Satan.” He was eight years old at that time. Later in the school grounds I asked the young male teacher, “Will my grandson be taught Creation or Evolution as fact.” His reply was to put his hands on his hips and say “well Creation of course, don’t tell me you believe in the big bang!” My reaction was angry, I told him he was a halfwit who had no right to be teaching young children such nonsense. A visit to the schools website gave me even more cause for concern especially the page dealing with the schools “Presbyterian ethics,” and I include an excerpt, copied from the website, on the following page. The result of my comments on all this was that I was banned from my daughter’s household unless I agreed to not talk about religion, sex or politics. Our relationship has not been as good since and this is part of my decision to leave Australia permanently. Just one illustration of the divisiveness of religion. It became apparent that for me to be able to discuss Christianity, I should perhaps find out more about it than the simple brainwashing I received at the C of E primary school that I attended for the years, from aged seven to fourteen, that was the total of my education. This was the only school available to me in Canterbury, at that time the church ran all the schools. When I finished at fourteen I knew all the prayers, hymns and most psalms but precious little else. Consequently I was working underground in Chislet Colliery at fifteen, where I worked until I was twenty, so yes I am uneducated. But down that mine and in the shower block each day I learned that men find it hard to keep their hands off young boys, and the men that went to chapel were the worst. To know more of Christianity, a year or so ago I undertook to read as much of my mother’s old King James Bible as I could stomach. 3 [Type here] Also, I read as much British History as I could for I knew from the experience of living in my own town of Canterbury that the Church’s influence controlled almost every aspect of life in earlier times and still does to a lesser degree today. The Illustrated Oxford History of Britain that I was given years before, provided a most interesting read, and together with my reading of the Bible, confirmed the conclusion that, that the dead hand of religion has inflicted enormous suffering, and robbed previous generations of the benefits of scientific knowledge and advanced technology that we enjoy today. The Church has monopolised, stolen and wasted the best land, resources and millions of man hours of labour, on tens of thousands of entirely useless Cathedrals, Monasteries, Priories, Nunneries and Churches throughout Europe. These resources all could have been used to provide homes, schools, roads, drainage and infrastructure to the benefit of the population, not just the Royals, Magnates and the Clergy. Over the centuries millions have died of starvation during winters while the Tithe Barns remained full and unused, and of disease during plagues made worse by lack of clean water and sewerage, and the demands of the Church for Tithes and free labour. During his time, the Abbott of St Albans was known as the cruellest master of them all being responsible for hundreds of deaths due to famine in the winters. When plague arrived the ignorant masses would crowd into church to pray, thereby enabling the fleas to spread more easily. On top of the waste of resources add the millions of man hours wasted in futile belly crawling to a non-existent ogre in the sky, which is what prayer is, for at least one seventh of the available working hours. In Roman Canterbury in around 250 AD there were Public baths, Public toilets, paved roads and drainage, a Theatre and a forum. The population of Roman Britain was twice what it was 1000 years later, 1000 years of Christianity. In the year 1600, Canterbury had the massive Cathedral which includes the Archbishops palace, the Deans quarters, The Kings School where boys only learned the secrets of God’s love, especially at night, luxury apartments and spacious gardens, all enclosed in another massive wall that occupies a third of the available space within the city wall. This was the third Cathedral built there and all from stone brought at tremendous cost from Caen in France. All this was built without electricity or automotive power. There was also in Canterbury the White Friary, the Black Friary, Grey Friary, a Priory, a Nunnery and twenty two churches, all run and staffed by unproductive leeches, sucking the life out of the ordinary man. There was 4 [Type here] nowhere for the people to live within the walls, which was the original idea behind the building of them, for protection from the frequent raids by Vikings and others. So the population of the poor was massacred outside while the clergy was safe behind the walls. Outside but close to the walls was the massive St Augustine’s Abbey. The Archbishop, also had a palace in Maidstone so that he could rest on his journey to the other palace in London, Lambeth Palace. Here he could collect the rent from the “Bishops Goslings” which is what the prostitutes that rented slums from the church were called. By the 1800’s there were about 50,000 churches in Britain and 56 Cathedrals, all with associated buildings such as Vicarages and most had farmland to rent to the peasants. Each Cathedral has a treasury and a treasurer’s house. All this wealth and effort wasted on a non-productive, parasitic clergy. This situation is repeated throughout Britain in the Cathedral towns and throughout Europe. There are still forty seven thousand churches in Britain. When St Augustine brought Christianity to Britain, he declared that “Curiosity is a disease the must be eliminated.” Ecclesiastics, Chapter 3-22 says, seek not the things that are too high for you but the things that God has commanded thee, think of them always and be not curious.” All this of course is the result from the naughty Eve picking one single fruit from the “Tree of Knowledge,” which is why my grandson is in a “fallen condition”. What stupid nonsense. If the study of science and technology that was already being undertaken by the Romans and others, continuing from the Greeks, had been allowed to progress, technology would have advanced at least a thousand years earlier. The materials needed all existed then. But the conversion of the Roman emperors to Christianity saw the decline of the Roman Empire, ruthless enforcement of the oppression necessary for the Church of Rome to rule, and the eventual abandoning of the city of Canterbury, which fell into ruins. Every wonderful advance in technology that we have now could have been developed one thousand years earlier, if not for the banning of books and enforcement of Christian theology through murder and even genocide. The destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the murder by Christian monks of Hypatia, by flaying her alive, the burning of Bruno after nailing his tongue to a post, and the persecution of Galileo, all these things and many others were done to halt the progress and learning that threatened the power of the church. 5 [Type here] Frequently I see and hear Christians say that the sole source of their information when forming their views on their faith, is “The Bible.” My first question is “which Bible are we talking about, as there are at least thirty differing versions,” and they can be compared on the internet on Bible comparison sites. For instance, in the King James Version, and even this Bible has two versions, Jesus was accused by the high priests of “perversion,” Luke 23, “We found this fellow perverting the nation,” and Pontius Pilate said “you have brought this man to me as one who has “perverted” his people.” In the New American version “perverted” is changed to “subverted,” a world of difference. As they differ they can’t all be true, and of course within each Bible the four Gospels all tell differing versions. In The Gospel of St John, Jesus is made to carry the cross and the Catholic Church lays this on thick during Easter, yet in Mathew, Mark, and Luke, Simon of Cyrene is made to carry the cross. Three to One. We know that John was written at a later date to make the whole story more dramatic and convincing than the three earlier, and more likely correct, versions. But no matter what Bible is read, I fail to see how Christians can arrive at the conclusions about Jesus as that they do. My readings of the Bible lead me to these entirely different conclusions, based on my logic, and the balance of probabilities. 1- Jesus was not the result of an immaculate conception. Mary his mother may well have still been a virgin in the strict sense, that is, still not having been penetrated properly, but her pregnancy was due to an ordinary male doing ordinary things, most probably a member of her family, the same person perhaps that had already impregnate her cousin, the very aged mother of John the Baptist. This is much more probable than a busy horny ghost. We know from the Old Testament that incest was a way of life among the Jews and others at that time. Lot, the only moral man in Sodom, had children by his daughters and they became a whole tribe. Genesis 19-30/38. This is at the end of that charming story of, when the mob of Sodomites surrounded Lot’s house demanding that Lot send out his two male guests so that they can have anal sex with them, “know them,” Lot says “I pray you, do not do so wickedly to my guests, take my two virgin daughters and do unto them as is good in your eyes.” In other words, help yourselves to anal sex with my virgin daughters. And Lot was the only resident of the town worth saving? This attitude to women is still part of Christian culture. 6 [Type here] An even more revolting example of what is basically the same story is described in Judges, 19-16/30. Here a Levite priest is invited to stay in an old man’s house. He has with him two asses, a manservant and his concubine. Prior to this the priest had been staying at her father’s house and this man is referred to as the priest’s father in law, so she was the equivalent of being a wife, one would think. As was the case with Lot, the old man’s house was encircled by the men of Benjamin who demanded that the Levite priest be sent out to them, that they might “know” him. The old man, the master of the house went out to them and said unto them “nay, my brethren, nay I pray you, do not do so wickedly; seeing as this man came into my house, do not do this folly. Behold here is my daughter, a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good to you; but unto this man do not do such a vile thing” Now if you think that’s nasty twisted thinking, there is worse to follow. The sodomising men “took the concubine and knew her and abused her all the night until the morning; and when the day began to spring they let her go” (the daughter must have been such a horror they didn’t fancy her). “Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house, where her lord was, till it was light.” “And her lord rose up in the morning, (he slept through it all) and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way; and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house and her hands were across the threshold. And he said unto her, up, and let us be going. (not so much as an are you alright?) But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up and sat upon his ass.” “And when he had come unto his house, he took a knife and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” What a charmer he was, and this was a priest. This book is the word of God. Is it surprising that they still think it is OK to rape women and boys? This is where Christians get their morals. I don’t remember that one at Sunday school. The Bible has dozens of paragraphs, inciting Christians to murder and violence. Many stories affirming the worthlessness of women, yet millions of women are them are content to believe it. And our wonderfully bright Minister for Education has spent hundreds of pounds on sending a special edition of this book to every school in Britain, when in fact it should be banned. 7 [Type here] But back to the “immaculate conception,” assuming that any of this story is true at all, it is probable that Mary was a bright girl and, when she found herself pregnant, saw an opportunity to use the ancient story of a messiah being born of a virgin, to persuade poor gullible Joseph that she hadn’t been unfaithful, but had been entered by the holy-ghost. And she was able to persuade Jesus that he was the Messiah easily as he was so conceited. He believed that all his life. But his own family and the people of his own town did not believe it, as is apparent from the passage in Mathew 13-54/58, when asked why there was such disbelief in Nazareth, and why he did not go there to preach, Jesus said “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country and own house.” “and he did not many of his mighty works there because of their disbelief.” So there we have it that the people who knew the real story of Mary and her pregnancy were not convinced. It is probable that Joseph, his stepfather, still lived and worked there and he would have disapproved of the openly gay and work shy lifestyle of Jesus and his same sex gang. Hence Jesus’s reluctance to go there. Jesus did not perform miracles. The first so called miracle was the making of water into wine. Many magicians do far more difficult tricks that this one. Faith healers can be found in thousands of places. And what evidence is there that any of this actually happened? None. And if he really could perform miracles surely there were much more important issues to fix than making wine. It was obviously important to him to have wine and he may have been a big drinker. In Luke 5-30/33 Jesus is asked by the Scribes and the Pharisees why he and the disciples eat and drink so much. In Luke chapter 11- 18/19, “The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, behold a man gluttonous, and a wine bibber, a friend of publicans and sinners.” As for the many other “miracles,” it is easy to make a blind man see if he is not really blind, a lame man walk if he is not really lame and the dead recover if they are not actually dead. None of these miracles were observed by a doctor or even sketched, surely men could draw in those days. A more convincing story would be making a new limb grow on an amputee. Not even a finger was claimed. Long after Jesus has disappeared off the scene many of his disciples supposedly continued to do the same sort of miracles, so he was nothing special. 8 [Type here] But here in this story of water into wine is the first clue to the character of Jesus and his attitude to his mother and women in general. For no apparent reason when Mary tells him there is no wine at the wedding party he says to her, “woman, and what have I to do with thee, mine hour has not yet come.” What that had to do with anything I do not know but will ask the first vicar I meet. But this is the man that tells us to obey the Ten Commandments, the first four of which are entirely about God demanding unending grovelling, attention and devotion. But the fifth is “honour thy Father and Mother,” A little hypocritical of him, and there are other passages where this paragon of virtue shows contempt for his Mother and Siblings. In Mathew 12-/50 Jesus is talking to the people when a disciple tells him that his Mother and Brethren stood without, waiting to speak with him. “But he answered and said to him who told him, who is my Mother? And who are my Brethren?” And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, an all-male same sex group, and said “behold my Mother and my Brethren.” And that was the end of that story, he left his Mother and siblings standing outside, so much for honouring his Mother and his family. This is the “Virgin Mary,” the woman worshiped by millions for two thousand years but her son wouldn’t give her the time of day so she wasn’t that special. If she was still living in Nazareth at that time they had come a long way. This means that he ignored his mother, the Virgin Mary and declared his gang of men friends to be his family. That he had no feeling for family at all is revealed when in Luke 1425/26 he says to the multitude, “if any man comes to me and hates not his father, and his mother, and his wife and children, and brethren, and his sisters, he cannot be my disciple. So there! How is that for a demanding relationship? He was not only dis-owning his own family but demanding that all his men friends hated theirs. Where is the loving Christ in that? So we can assume that from then onward all twelve plus Jesus hated every member of their families including their children. Remember that when we come to describe “The Last Supper” More of the character of the man. In Mathew 10-34/37, Jesus says “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to send peace but a sword.” “For I am come to set a man at variance against his Father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Because of me a man’s foes shall be those of his own household.” 9 [Type here] “And he that loveth mother or father more than me is not worthy of me, and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.” This is a grown man speaking to his boy-friends, jealous and demanding. In fact it’s pathetic. There are more paragraphs of this rubbish. So much for bringing peace on earth. Yet for two thousand years the church has bleated on about his love. His motives for the life he led. Often we hear Jesus referred to as a Carpenter when in fact there is no reference to him actually working at anything in the Bible. He was the son of a Carpenter. There are several references to his” Lodgings,” and he had money to give the disciples to buy food and wine for the last supper, which, in spite of his pouring scorn on the Scribes and the Pharisees for “wanting to sit in the upper rooms” he tells the disciples to hire an upper room. In Mathew 10-10/15, Jesus instructs the disciples on how to scrounge a living by going from town to town, finding out who is worthy, i.e. has the money and a house to stay in, and stay there until leaving the town. This could be months. “Whosoever will not receive you, verily it shall be more tolerable in the day of judgment, for the city of Sodom, than that city.” In other words feed and house me or your city will be destroyed. Not very different to the Mafia protection racket. These are primitive superstitious people they are dealing with, easily conned. And this is how the monks, nuns, and all other clergy of all religions live, by selling blessings and persuading the ignorant masses that giving to them is the way to, heaven and eternal life. Jesus learned his lesson early by sitting beside the treasury in the temple, where he watched the rich cast in much, and even the poor widow cast in two mites, Mark 12-41/44, and there he saw how easy it was to get money from these gullible people. The Book of Numbers, Chapters 6 and 7, in the Old Testament is, several pages of a long and detailed description of all the valuables, goods and money given to the temple, which really means those that run the temple, the Clergy. This includes, wagons, farm animals, silver and gold bowls weighing a hundred shekels and so on ad finitum. So in the time of Jesus the principle of buying your way to heaven was well established, and it was not difficult for him and his gay mates to make a good living doing the same thing, that is, selling blessings from God and the chance of eternal life, as against eternal burning in hell if you didn’t pay up. 10 [Type here] In Acts of the Apostles, after Jesus has got out of town and off the scene after being saved from dying on the cross, we see how this business model has developed and the church, which is what the Apostles have become now, with thousands of followers, is growing more ruthless and greedy. Chapter 3-44/47 describes how it is now the rule that followers sell all their possessions and place the money at the feet of the Apostles. “And the Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved.” But Chapter 5-1/10 tells of the young couple, Ananias and his wife Saphira, who wanted to join the church, sold their land but decided to keep half of the proceeds for themselves, quite a reasonable decision one would think. When Ananias came to put the cash at the feet of St Peter, then the leader of the Gang, Peter says, “Ananias, why has Satan filled thy heart to lie to the Holy Ghost and to keep back part of the price of the land?” To cut a long story short Ananias is killed and quickly buried and several hours later when Saphira comes to find him, she too is killed and carted out and buried quickly. Murdered by the early founders of Christianity, so that the leaders, the clergy or whatever they were called, get all the cash. What morality? Does that sound at all like some of the Cults that exist today? And is it a wonder that a priest can casually sexually assault a woman and expect to get away with it. The Anglican Church website informs us that for the year 2008/9 the investment fund made a return of 19% on more than 5 billion pounds. This fund is exclusively for the benefit of the clergy pensions and welfare. The church also owns 200,000 acres of land in England, and much property in the City of London and other cities. And this is chicken feed compared to the wealth of the Vatican. So it can be seen how incredibly successful his business plan was. The organisation that was built upon the myths of Jesus at one time during the early middle ages claimed ownership of all of the then known world. Jesus was gay, a Pederast and probably a Paedophile. Any intelligent person will know that for a man to have spent his whole life up to thirty years, avoiding close contact with females is probably gay. As a boy and youth I had quite a varied sex life, and have found that many gay people are talented and decent, so I have no personal problem with anyone being gay. 11 [Type here] But Christians do have problems with a person being gay, which is probably because it is so obvious from the evidence provided in the Bible that the person that they worship was so obviously gay. He was certainly a mother’s boy. Mary, the mother, was always around him right up to his being nailed up, yet Joseph the father is never mentioned, except to say he was the son of a Carpenter. That he demanded that all his lovers should hate their families including their children, and that any man that loves his family more than him is not worthy of him, is a good indication of the desperate need he had for love from men. John Chapter 19-26/27 describes Jesus on the cross, saying to his “mother behold thy son” and to the “disciple that he loved,” “behold thy mother,” and that they should live together. Now that’s really considerate. There are many passages in the gospels that lead one to think that Jesus was effeminate. The Last Supper story is, to anyone that is familiar with the behaviour of groups of gay men at parties, a description of just that, an evening of allmale sexual play. John Chapter 13-4/25 describes Jesus taking off all his clothes, “he cast aside his garments, girded himself with a towel and washed the disciple’s feet.” Would it really be necessary for him to be in the bollocky, starkers to wash their feet? And some of them wanted other parts washed as well, imagine walking in on that party, what would one think? Then we have Jesus with the “disciple that he loved” leaning his head on Jesus’s “bosom.” Was this boy facing up or down I wonder? Gay men from the Romans on have liked to meet in bath houses. Any person having experience of gay groups would know that these men and boys were homosexuals having a good time. After this party Jesus is arrested, after being identified with a kiss from Judas who was the son of Peter, who was probably made jealous by Jesus playing up with the disciple that he loved. So he dobbed him in to the Jewish high priests, a typical gay men’s cat fight, a squabble between lovers. Jesus could see this coming so he predicted it. When arrested he was being followed by a “young man, naked save for a light cloth which was pulled from him and he ran away naked” Mark Chapter 14-51/52, no doubt the disciple that Jesus loved. This is probably a description of Jesus the Pederast being followed by his young male, a common situation in Roman and Greek times. Pontius Pilate asked the priests what was Jesus charged with they said “we have found him Perverting his people.” 12 [Type here] Pontius Pilot being a pederast like most Roman men that could afford it, thought nothing wrong with this and said he could find no fault with Jesus, so sent him off to King Herod who was visiting at the time. The king also thought this practise was ok and returned Jesus dressed in “a gorgeous robe.” He must have looked beautiful. There is no attempt in the Bible to explain the fact that the multitude that had followed and worshiped Jesus for years, suddenly were determined to have him crucified. Why the sudden change? Three times Pontius Pilot wanted to let Jesus go, but three times they cried out for his blood. Homophobia has always been around and the high priests would have stirred up the multitude with quotes form the Old Testament about homosexuality. Jesus did not die on the cross, he was not there long enough. After the fall of Singapore during the Second World War, due to the surrender of the cowardly British general to the very surprised Japanese, 50,000 Australian troops were captured along with the British and many worked and died constructing the Burma Railroad. Three starving Australian soldiers were caught by the Japanese having killed a cow or something similar, and were sentenced to be crucified, a punishment which the Japanese used often in Japan. These men were bashed with rifle butts before having fencing wire pushed through their hands then hung arms stretched out from trees. They were left to die, and sixty three hours later, their mates were allowed to take the bodies down for burial. However one of the men, named Herbert Edwards but known as Ringer Edwards because he was a sheep herder, was not quite dead and was nursed back to health by his mates. He died in Queensland in 1988 at eighty years old. Jesus, a young well fed man, hung on the cross for only three hours or six hours depending on which Gospel you read, before he “gave up the ghost,” in other words before he fainted, yet Ringer Edwards, emaciated and beaten, survived ten times as long. At the crucifixion of Jesus was his Mother Mary, his aunt Mary, Mary Magdalene, Salome, his male lover and the wealthy disciple, Joseph of Arimathea, and also Nicodemus, (who was “one of those that came to Jesus by night)” So after only six hours Joseph went to Pontius Pilot to ask for the body of Jesus and Pontius pilot “marvelled if he could be already dead.” 13 [Type here] Mark chapter 15 -44/45. Nicodemus had ointment etc., to put on the wounds and there were lots of volunteers to give Jesus mouth to mouth resuscitation. How convenient it was that he “died” just as the soldiers came to break the legs. The other two men crucified were still alive and got theirs broken. In John, the gospel written at a much later date and written to overcome some of the obvious questions arising from this resurrection, says that the soldiers pierced the side of Jesus and that blood and water came out, but that is not mentioned at all in Mathew, Mark and Luke so is not correct. To sum up, my conclusions from all this is that there was no Immaculate Conception, Jesus was like all clergy, a workshy scrounger who saw that a wonderful living could be made by pretending to be the long prophesied Messiah, he was Gay as were most of his disciples, but most important to Christianity, he did not die on the cross, merely passed out and therefore was not resurrected. For me, this confirms what I have known since my youth, it’s all bullshit. But because of the cowardice and gullibility of most people, the groups of men collectively known as “The Church” have managed to control and stifle the western world for two thousand years. I sincerely hope we are nearing the end of their influence. On my return to live in Britain we bought near to Canterbury, I had correspondence with the member for Canterbury, Julian Brazier regarding Prayers at council meetings. He describes himself as “a strong practising Christian” and he supports the holding of prayers at meetings. He was disappointed that, and here he means me, “I class every individual who has religious belief to be of unsound mind” I told him that a grown man that prays should be ashamed, it’s cowardly and pathetic. I got no reply. While the country is managed by people such as this we will have crazy decisions being made on our behalf. Rodney King 14