BRISTOL CITY COUNCIL PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL
PARKING SCHEME PLANS FOR CLIFTON VILLAGE
SURVEY FEEDBACK PREPARED BY BID CLIFTON
VILLAGE
BID Clifton Village
The Library
Joseph King House
3a Boyces Avenue
Clifton
Bristol BS8 4AA
INDEX
Item
Detail
Page
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BID Clifton Village
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Clifton Village
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Consultation
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Survey
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5
Feedback
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6
Suggestions
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7
Moving Forward
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8
Appendices
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1.
BID Clifton Village
BID CV is a business improvement district initiative which came into place in
November 2012 following a 66% majority vote from businesses voting. Funds are
secured from the 317 businesses in the Village in order to enhance trading
opportunities and economic output in the area.
2.
Clifton Village
With over 300 businesses at the heart of its community Clifton is very different to
other areas where RPS schemes are in place or being designated. Clifton is a vibrant
area of the city with a unique blend of retail, commercial, educational, religious and
leisure outlets, all within close proximity and all contributing to the economic output of
the area and that of Bristol.
As such a bespoke parking scheme is required in order to find a solution that works
for this diverse mix of businesses alongside the needs of the residents.
3.
Consultation
We understand plans for the proposed parking scheme were due to be issued at the
end of August however their actual date of issue was the 9 September 2013.
We have recently been informed that Bristol City Council are to complete a survey of
the cars parked in the Village in October to provide further information on the
duration of stay in order to maximise parking turnover. For the many retail and leisure
outlets this information is key to understanding the impact of the proposed parking
scheme on footfall to the Village and ultimately their livelihoods.
How can businesses make informed comments about a proposal when such
fundamental details are missing? BID Clifton Village therefore asked for a delay to
the end of the consultation phase and to date we are awaiting a response to this
request.
Businesses are concerned over the quality of research completed particularly given
the outcome of recent changes on Boyces Avenue - the decision was made to
partially block Boyces Avenue during daytime trading hours. This has resulted in
many businesses significantly losing turnover and an ill conceived flow of transport –
one pedestrian has already been knocked by a turning vehicle in this area.
4.
Survey
In order to understand the impact of the proposed scheme on businesses in the area
BID Clifton Village has undertaken a survey with the businesses to hear their
thoughts. A copy of the survey can be found in Appendix 1.
Areas of consideration included:
1 Permit Entitlement
2
Pay and Display
3
Impact on Business
4
Alternatives
Costs
Numbers
Hours and Days
Costs
Numbers
Hours and Days
Staff
Trade
Car parking
Improved transport links
In order to get a taste of how visitors, shoppers and residents feel their opinion has
also been sought and a flavour of their thoughts have been included in the feedback.
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5.
Feedback
31% of businesses responded to the survey.
A resounding 100% of businesses responding disagree with implementation of the
proposed RPS plan across Clifton Village in its current format.
Given the diverse mix of businesses and differing requirements in Clifton Village
there is a broad range of thoughts and comments. Where there is strength of opinion
these are included in the main body of this report. A schedule detailing the range of
comments is included in Appendix 2 in order to provide an overview of the concerns
raised.
5.1
Permit Entitlement
5.1.1 Costs
 99% responded that the cost of business permits are too high, particularly in
comparison with the cost of residents permits (over 4 times as much in Clifton),
see below.
 Businesses commenting do not feel there are significant additional benefits
accrued to business permits when compared to residents permits – Residents
have the opportunity to secure 3 permits which can each be allocated to 2
vehicles/registration plates, residents also have the opportunity to secure up to
120 visitor passes.
 Taking these benefits into consideration the difference in the flexibility and use of
resident and business permits is smaller than the price differential suggests and
the price should reflect the small difference.
 Many small independent businesses in Clifton do not receive small business
relief for rates and are not therefore able to receive this relief on the business
permit costs.
 Requests are made that the first business permit falls in line with the first permit
cost for residents; it is currently 5 times higher.
5.1.2 Comparisons in Bristol
Detail
Clifton Village
per vehicle per yr
Business *(2 registrations)- first
Business * (2 registrations) - second
Business/Customer * one to five
Businesses buying 7 permits
Residential (2 registrations)- first**
Residential (2 registrations)- second
Residential (2 registrations)- third
100 additional permits 50 x free + 50 x £1
120 additional permits 60 x free + 60* £1
Residents buying 3 permits and 50 guests
Business v Residential cost differential
First ticket differential
Business costs v Residential costs
Redcliffe
per vehicle per yr
£240
£240
£240
£1,680
£100
£200
£100
£800
£48
£96
£192
£30
£80
£200
£50
£60
£396
£360
x 5.00
x 4.24
x 3.33
x 2.22
* **http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/transport-and-streets/redcliffe-residents%E2%80%99-parking-scheme-rps
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5.1.3 Comparisons in the UK
 Research indicates that business permits in other areas of the country are lower
Birmingham £150, Newcastle £92 and Portsmouth £107.50
 Please see Newcastle details below which indicate lower costs and a higher
numbers of permits available for businesses:
Detail
Newcastle
per vehicle per yr
Business * - first
Business * - second
Business/Customer * three to five
Business/Customer * six to ten
Businesses buying 7 permits
Businesses buying 10 permits
Residential - first**
Resdiential - second **
Visitor permit
Additional permits
Residents buying 3 permits
£92
£92
£184
£276
£1,288
£2,116
£25
£75
£25
£0
£125
* ** http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-transport/parking/parking-permit-schemes
5.1.4
Numbers
 97% believe there will be an issue with the small number of business permits
available for businesses across Clifton.
 91% responded that the number of business permits is too low for their business
(the fact that this % was not higher is probably due to the number of small
independent businesses for whom 2 permits is sufficient).
 Businesses commenting felt the number of permits should be linked to the sq
footage or rateable value of buildings.
 Businesses requiring attendance at meetings across the City found this format
unworkable and long term parking bays were requested.
5.1.5 Hours and Days
 The original hours were 9am -5pm on Monday to Friday. The revised proposal
states 9am to 7pm on Monday to Saturday.
 The response is generally more relaxed on the start time with a desire to finish 1
or 2 hours earlier. Some businesses have a preference to start at 8am and finish
at 6pm and others wish for 9am to 5pm.
 For restaurants there is stronger feedback due to the potential impact on their
early evening trade due to a later end to the parking restrictions.
 Hotels and other businesses that hold events such as conferences, weddings
and promotions are concerned about the ability for large numbers of guests,
clients, and visitors to park in the Village for these events, a reduction on
Saturday restrictions will help.
 Several businesses believe Monday to Friday is a good idea rather than Monday
to Saturday.
 Given that change to the current parking arrangements has been driven by staff
from businesses in the centre of Bristol using Clifton as a car park and, with
commercial offices not working over a weekend it was felt the request to exclude
Saturday from the proposed RPS plans was reasonable.
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5.2
Pay and Display
5.2.1 Costs
 71% have an issue with the costs. They feel there should be free parking for an
hour and not half an hour. If there has to be a cost feedback indicates that the
cost at £1 an hour thereafter is generally acceptable (given the first hour is free).
5.2.2 Numbers
 Every business responding thinks the number of pay and display bays for visitors
and clients and shoppers are dangerously low across Clifton Village.
 Having looked into this and walked the streets feedback indicates that there is
35% less opportunity in the key retail streets of Clifton Village for visitors, clients
and shoppers due to the reduced parking meterage available and the longer turnaround time.
 The overwhelming opinion across all the businesses is that unless this is
increased significantly there will be a negative impact on footfall to the Village.
 For many independent traders there is not enough local trade to be successful
and the lack of external trade to the Village will have an unthinkable impact on
their bottom line. Some indicated that a reduction in external footfall will force
them to close.
 Many businesses are close to areas which are proposed to include a high
number of, or all, residential parking bays. Currently these are key areas in which
their clients, customers, visitors and patients park e.g. West Mall, Caledonia
Place, Victoria Square, Regent Street, PV Street, Canynge Road, The
Promenade, Clifton Green...
5.2.3
Hours and Days
 Ditto permit discussion above (1.3)
 Retailers and commercial businesses in the heart of the Village are concerned
about the length of stay in the pay and display bays i.e. the maximum hours and
the free period.
 Some businesses believe the 3 hour limit is too long restricting turn-around and
others believe it is too short.
 Many ask for a longer free period to enable clients and customers to drop off
papers, pick up orders or make a quick purchase, thereby enabling a continuous
flow and turn-around of visitors. Given the difficulty in coming to a conclusion
more research regarding current activity is required. If this is not possible the
best compromise is to increase the free time to 1 hour and leave the maximum
total time to 3 hours.
5.3
Impact on Businesses
5.3.1
100% of businesses responding think implementation of the proposed RPS plans will
have a negative impact on businesses across Clifton Village. 97% think it will have a
negative impact upon their own business.
5.3.2
Staff
 This is considered a major issue across a large number of businesses. It is felt
by everyone responding that access to the Village for staff and visitors should
have been researched and addressed ahead of the draft RPS proposal being
presented.
 There are many large businesses in Clifton Village employing 50+ members of
staff.
 BCC officers have outlined the various options available to employees and
residents and discussed the investment in bus, cycling and rail options that has
been made in recent years. The Council offer free travel planning advice to
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5.3.3
business and staff re car sharing, cycling and improving office facilities such as
showers etc.
The businesses are grateful for this offer of help but in many cases it is not
practical.
For many staff who live out of the area the current bus system or riding a bike to
work is not an option. Many employers, particularly the larger employing
businesses, are expecting staff issues as a result of the RPS proposal.
A few of the larger businesses indicate that without a solution to this staffing
issue they will look to leave the area. The knock on effect to local trade is
unthinkable.
Alternative forms of transport into the Village need to be found to resolve this
issue
Trade
 The impact of the proposed RPS plan is seen by all businesses to have a
detrimental effect across business in Clifton. The consensus of opinion across all
sectors is that it will suppress trade in an already fragile economic environment.
 Single yellow lines becoming double yellow lines and or disappearing in other
areas will create an issue for businesses that, as part of their work, deliver and
receive goods on a regular basis e.g. if single yellow lines are removed on
Waterloo Street businesses have indicate they will be forced to park in the middle
of the road in order to load and unload goods which will block traffic in this road
several times a day.
 Single yellow lines also offer an opportunity for disabled people to park.
 Feedback previously directed to Bristol City Council indicates the benefits of
yellow lines/loading bays, certainly at specific times of the day e.g. mornings
 RPS will make it difficult to come to Clifton Village and quickly people will stop. It
will result in the closure of many of the businesses in Clifton Village. The streets
however will be empty of cars very quickly; the shops and businesses will also be
empty!
 When questioned visitors, shoppers and clients of businesses in Clifton said they
required more and NOT less parking opportunities in the Village. They said they
would not walk from the car park on the Triangle to the Village, if they parked
there they would shop on the Triangle!
 Residents said that whilst they wanted improved parking for their families they do
not want the businesses in Clifton Village to suffer unnecessarily as a result of
RPS. They will be devastated if an RPS plan meant the closure of shops and
businesses in the Village due to lack of trade. For many residents the vibrant
atmosphere of the cafes, restaurants, offices and retail outlets is one of the major
reasons they live in Clifton Village.
 Clifton Village is made up of a broad mix of businesses and independent traders
which is part of its appeal. Any negative effect on footfall into the Village or on the
ability for staff to complete their work through less parking spaces, will clearly
have a major impact upon this attractive and eclectic mix of businesses, the
majority of which are independents. To ensure these remain, it is imperative that
any RPS programme enables businesses to continue to trade effectively.
5.4 Alternatives
5.4.1
Survey feedback considers access to alternative forms of transport ahead of any
RPS proposal being implemented is a priority for staff and potential visitors to Clifton.
5.4.2
Car parking
 Clifton Village does not have a car park and whilst staff can be encouraged to
walk from the car park on the Triangle this is not an effective option throughout
the year – e.g. female employees walking alone in the dark (4pm in the
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autumn/winter). Similarly the car park at Sainsburys on Whiteladies Road will not
be an option when the RPS plans are rolled out into Clifton East.
Visitors to the area have said they will simply not walk the distance from these
car parks to Clifton Village, they will chose to shop elsewhere.
Why is Bristol City Council awarding planning for new developments without
easy access parking for a number of vehicles each time e.g. Moorpoint
development on Clifton Down?
In the long term a car park needs to be built in Clifton – ideally under the Downs
to ensure ample parking is available. Monaco is an example that this is possible
in rock!
5.4.3
Improved transport links
 Clifton is too expensive for many independent traders and staff to live, the need
to travel into work is therefore commonplace.
 Bus
o The bus service to Clifton Village runs north to south, it is the 8/9 bus
from the centre of town which according to feedback is generally
considered to be erratic.
o We are advised that no improved bus service or additional service has
been considered ahead of presenting the proposed RPS.
 Train
o Provisions on trains and links need to be improved e.g. one employee
travelling by train and then bike to work mentioned that the local
commuter train they use only takes 2 bikes which means they have on
occasion been left without a bike to travel home on!
o It is essential that bus and train services are improved to help
commuters and visitors to and from the Village.
 Park and Ride
o We are advised that no Park and Ride service is to be supplied ahead
of RPS being implemented. The supply of such a service is to be
driven by demand.
o The most common suggestion for alternative transport links into the
Village is for a transport link to local park and ride schemes at Long
Ashton and Shirehampton.
 Waiting 6 months for market forces to dictate a demand for better transport
services or more pay and display bays is not an option for businesses in Clifton.
 Given the difficult economic climate, a lack of visitors and footfall to the Village
will mean many of the independent businesses will, through the lack of trade, be
forced out of business before the 6 months are up. It will also mean many
employers will suffer employment issues due to staff looking to base themselves
with companies where there is an easier commute to their place of employment.
6.
Suggestions
1
Permits
i
Lack of business permits
Larger businesses are concerned about the lack of business permits
available to them which will have an impact on them working effectively
CHANGE the number of business permits available and bring the
number in line with: the rateable value; sq footage; number of
staff; and/or, the type of business
ii
Cost of business permits
All businesses believe the costs of business permits should be brought
in line with residential permit costs and/or costs in other parts of Bristol
or the UK
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REDUCE the business permit costs in line with residential costs or
in line with business rates elsewhere
REVIEW small business relief across Bristol to enable small
independent businesses in Clifton to take advantage of this clause
(as anticipated by Bristol City Council) and/or
REDUCE the first permit cost in line with residential costs
iii
2
Hours of operation
The original hours were 9am to 5pm on Monday to Friday. The revised
proposal is for 9am to 7pm Monday to Saturday. Businesses prefer the
original proposal but are equally happy to change the hours to 6pm
CHANGE the hours and days to 9am to 6pm Monday to Friday
Pay and Display
i
Hours and days
DITTO hours and days as above
ii
Number of pay and display bays
All businesses are concerned about the low number of pay and display
bays. They believe the knock on reduction in clients, shoppers and
visitors to the Village which will have a direct and detrimental impact on
their ability to trade
INCREASE the number of pay and display bays close to the heart
of the retail and business community
iii
Pay and Display available period of stay
Retailers and commercial businesses in the heart of the Village are
concerned about the length of stay in the pay and display bays i.e. the
maximum hours and the free period as well as the ability to encourage
a quick turn-around in the flow of traffic
COMPLETE further research and/or
INCREASE the free element to 1 hour and leave the maximum at 3
hours
iv
3
Pay and Display rates
If there has to be a cost feedback indicates that the costs at £1 an hour
is generally fair given the first hour is free
CHARGE £1 an hour with the first hour free
Impact on business
i
Impact on Staff
a Ability to get to work
All businesses, particularly those employing large numbers of staff, are
concerned about the impact on their staff and the subsequent
employment issues the proposed RPS will bring to them
PROVIDE more alternative forms of transport into the Village e.g.
bus and train services (particularly during busy commuter hours)
ii
Impact on Trade
a All businesses are concerned about the impact on trade across
Clifton Village with the proposed RPS plans. They believe there is
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simply not enough consideration for businesses in the current
proposal.
LISTEN to the concerns of the business community and act upon
their suggestions
b Staff unrest
Businesses are concerned about the consequences of large employers
leaving the Village due to staffing difficulties and the impact this will
have on the business economy across Clifton through reduced daily
trade
ENSURE there are sufficient alternative forms of transport into the
Village at busy commuter times
c Businesses close to large residential parking zones
Businesses in these areas are concerned about the direct impact on
their trade with shoppers not being able to park in these roads
INPUT more pay and display in such areas e.g. Victoria Sq, Regent
St, West Mall, Caledonia Place, Sion Hill, PV St, Waterloo St,
Canynge Rd, The Promenade, Mortimer Rd, Gloucester Row
d Businesses which are involved in making regular deliveries
These businesses are concerned about the lack of loading bays and the
potential loss of yellow lines which currently enable them to load and
unload goods without blocking the road and traffic flow several times a
day
ENSURE there are ample yellow lines and/or parking bays
available to assist with regular loading and unloading on every
street. (yellow lines could be restricted for morning loading etc)
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Alternatives
i
Car parks
No car parks
As everyone is only too aware there are no car parks in the heart of
Clifton Village and those on the outskirts are, for various reasons, not
always practical for staff to use nor will customers walk from them into
the Village due to the distance involved
KEEP on the agenda the option to build a car park under the
Downs or elsewhere in Clifton Village
ALWAYS insist new building developments include easy access
parking for vehicles in their building plans
ii
Alternative transport
Lack of alternative forms of transport
All businesses are concerned about the shocking impact on their
business due to the lack of alternative forms of transport being in place
ahead of the implementation of any RPS proposal in Clifton.
Waiting 6 months for market forces to dictate a demand for better
transport services or for more pay and display bays is not a viable
option for businesses in Clifton
IMPLEMENT: park and ride transport links; improved quality (bus
and train) services at commuter busy times; and improve the
number of bus services into the Village from other areas of Bristol
(not just north to south Bus 8/9)
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Other issues
i
Research and Consultation
Lack of consultation
Businesses do not feel they were consulted in the proposal placed
before them and given the unique qualities of Clifton Village there is
subsequently a lack of understanding for the requirements of
businesses therein
COMPLETE further research into the needs of businesses and
POSTPONE the end of the consultation period or
COMPLETE a further consultation phase with a more realistic
proposal
ii
Opportunities
Missed opportunities
There are opportunities to increase the parking spaces in some areas
and, with changed traffic flows the opportunities to park differently
thereby increasing the number of vehicles able to park in the same
space
INCREASE parking areas across the whole of Christ Church Green
and in some areas of PV Street whilst still leaving enough space
for deliveries and loading, see section on yellow lines 5.3.3.
CONSIDER alternative plans for how cars park as presented to
Bristol City Council previously.
RETURN parking spaces where these have been removed for
building purposes in the past.
iii
Disability requirements
More disability parking required
CONSIDER further disabled parking either with yellow lines or
remove restrictions for disabled vehicles
iv
Feedback from other key stakeholders
a Customers, Clients and Visitor feedback
All visitors, shoppers, customers and clients of businesses in the area
ask for more parking opportunities in the Village and not less.
FIND a better compromise to RPS that works well for both
residents as well as businesses
b Residents feedback
For many residents the vibrant atmosphere of the cafes, offices and
retail outlets is one of the major reasons they live in Clifton Village.
INCREASE the number of parking spaces, pay and display,
available for shoppers and visitors in the heart of the Village
v
Monitoring
Flow of visitors, clients and customers
To ensure there is a flow of parked vehicles, regular turn-around, there
needs to be adequate monitoring by traffic wardens otherwise the
system will become blocked and trade will stagnate.
ADEQUATE traffic monitoring to be in place by Bristol City Council
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7.
Moving Forward
The businesses in Clifton Village are keen to work with Bristol City Council to ensure the
outcome of discussions and consultation work to maximise requirements for both residents
and businesses in the Village.
If there are any questions or further feedback required please do not hesitate to get in touch.
info@bidcliftonvillage.co.uk
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Appendix 1
Copy of the survey
1
Do you agree with the proposed allocation of areas for the different types of parking?
In your Street/Road (comments)
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Across Clifton Village - business retails areas/residential areas (comments)
2
Do you agree with the proposed days and hours of operation for the scheme?
Mon – Sat and 9am to 7pm
In your Street/Road (comments)
Across Clifton Village - business retails areas/residential areas (comments)
3
Do you agree with the proposals for permit entitlement?
(See Residents Parking Scheme RPS proposals July 2013)
For your business (comments)
For residents (comments)
Across Clifton Village - business retails areas/residential areas (comments)
4
Do you agree with the cost of the proposed permits?
Business Permit - £240 Standard, £140 Discounted (comments)
Customer Permit - £250 Standard, £150 Discounted (comments)
Residents Permit - £48* 1st permit, £96 2nd permit, £192 3rd permit (comments)
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Do you agree with the cost of the pay and display?
30 minutes free, £1 per hour with limit of 3 hours**
(comments)
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The 1st permit cost would vary depending upon vehicle emissions
In some circumstances you may park longer depending on the needs of the area. This will be
indicated on signs next to the parking place
Do you anticipate the scheme having a detrimental effect on business?
Your business (comments)
Across Clifton Village - business retails areas across Clifton Village (comments)
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Do you have any suggestions how the proposed scheme could be improved?
In your Street/Road (comments)
Across Clifton Village - business retails areas/residential areas (comments)
External to Clifton Village (comments)
FOR FURTHER INFO PLEASE REFER TO:
Bristol City Council website http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/transport-and-streets/clifton-village-cv
in conjunction with Residents Parking Scheme (RPS Proposals July 2013).
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Appendix 2
Sample comments covering a range of concerns
Business permit costs in Clifton are higher than residents, higher than in Kingsdown and higher than in other Cities in the
country. Lower business permit costs or bring them down to resident permit rates
Not enough visitor spaces, visitors keep the Village in business. We should encourage more
I won't be able to park and unload - a part of my work several times across the day - yellow lines enable me to do this. I will
be forced to park in the road and hold up the traffic
The pay and display price is reasonable but there are not enough space for customers to park
Yes it will have a major detrimental effect on our busines and is likely to result in the loss of staff. It will supress trade in an
already fragile economic environment
It will supress trade in an already fragile economic environment
Many businesses in Clifton are independent traders and don't require 7 permits where as the larger businesses with 50, 75,
100, 125 employees require more parking permits - base the allocation on type of business or number of employees or space
No opportunity for staff to use other forms of transport
Staff currently use residential areas for parking 8-5 when a large number of residents will be at work - we are optimising
spaces which will otherwise be empty
Will increase costs (direct) and indirectly (staff will face increase in commute time and this will have an impact on the
company).Staff already considering their employment options, recruitment will prove problematic. Ultimately SD may have to
reconsider its continued operations within the RPS. As one of the largest employers in Clifton this would have an impact on
trade with local businesses
Ultimately we may have to reconsider continued operations within the RPS. As one of the largest employers in Clifton this
would have an impact on trade with local businesses
Provide more public transport options BEFORE introducing the RPS
As a business employing 120+ people we would be entitled to one permit for staff plus some for visitors this is not right
Do not implement in this area until ther is proper public transport alternatives
The cost of a (business) permit could equate to 5 days trading for us as a new business, this is a cost we can't swallow
The original proposals were for 9-5 Mon to Fri we do not agree with the additional 2 hrs and cannot see any justification for
the scheme to operate on Saturdays. This will effect the retail business and the leisure users (visiting restaurants etc in the
evenings) due to extended hours and inclusion of Saturdays
There is not allocation for non-resident parking in Victoria Sq, the current location for the majority of trade coming into
Boyces Avenue and The Arcade. The impact on local businesses will be catastrophic. The parking plan does not take into
account local businesses in the area. There is so little parking for customers businesses will simply not be able to function
Residents will largely be out of the office during the day, leaving masses of empty parking spaces that no one willl be able to
park in! Why Saturday, is the plan to close down as many busineses as possible?
Why Saturday, is the plan to close down as many busineses as possible?
It is less likely locals will invite friends and relations over to Clifton and therefore will have yet another negative impact on
trade. It will make it difficult to come to Clifton Village and quickly people will stop. It will result in the closure of many of
the busineses in Clifton Village. Like all small businesses we are struggling to survive and yet another 'tax' such as this will
come straigh off our bottom line. Why do businesses have to pay so much? The streets will be empty of cars however very
quickly, the shops and businesses will also be empty!
It will make it difficult to come to Clifton Village and quickly people will stop. It will result in the closure of many of the
busineses in Clifton Village. The streets will be empty of cars however very quickly, the shops and businesses will also be
empty!
Like all small businesses we are struggling to survive and yet another 'tax' such as this will come straigh off our bottom line.
Why do businesses have to pay so much?
If we have to adopt the scheme parking should be free for 1 hour at least.
1. Our customer base wil largely disappear as parking nearby is all residential 2. several members of staff will no longer be
able to park near their place of work 3. we will have to downsize to survive which wil result in lost jobs
There is not enough parking in Regent St for customers and visitors, by dramatically reducing the number of spaces to park in
any of the neighbouring streets the lack of parking spaces will escalate
No one will be abel to visit the area to site see, shop or use the restaurants on such a dramatically reduced parking space
allocation. It will be a chore to try to park, visitor numbers will will reduce massively, traders will suffer, businesses will
close the shopping streets will have vast numbers of empty units
In this City a car is the most economical way to travel do not penalise them, a park and ride scheme or subterranean or multi
story car park would need to be created to support the proposed RPS in Clifton Village
Less customers will have an impact on my business and I may be forced to sell if I can't make ends meet
Hours and days not practical for our business - Caledona Place has too many permit parking only places
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The Staurday restriction and early evening will (detrimentally) affect our business and that of other restaurants
If people cannot park they will simpy go shopping in the out of town centres and the Village will die. This will have a
devastating effect on our business. Parents need to be able to park and drop their children off to their lessons
There is no differential in number of permits allocated to different sized businesses. It is not equitable that a business
employing 7 people should have the same business allocation as a business employing 700. Why is ther mor residents
parking allocated than pay and display? Not enouth P&D close to the retail centre and office buildings
Not enough spaces. Why would you want to decrease visitor numbers and public transport is too expensive. Concerns across
the Village e.g. Why lose 10 spaces in Mortimer Rd to unnecessary double yellow lines
There should be more pay & display and less shared permit parking. PV Street + Wloo Street should be pay & display only,
houses have parking and there are few other residential properties
Understand but hours and Saturday restrictions will affect our business + custom
£1 per hour is fine (for pay and display)
These are too expensive for businesses, residents are too cheap in comparison to businesses
This will affect staff driving to park to work at our office - there is no residential property in this St that will be affected (they
all have off St parking - The Promenade)
This will have a large financial impact on our staff and effect our recruitment going forwards as drivers would be put off.
Some people live too far to use public transport
There should be a restriction along the lines of the residents parking with reductions for low emmission vehicles. Believe 3rd
permit for residents should be higher
The Mall should be 1 and 2 hrs to encourage high turnover
Very in convenient hours for hotel business, weddings, conferences, Saturday trading a must
Why would you want to reduce the number of available spaces. Far fewer visitors will be the result
Build underground car parks as they do in Spain
I think there should be more allocated (mix use or pay and display) around Grange Rd/Mortimer Rd for shared areas
It should finish at 6pm
Business (permit) rates are too much - head office won't pay
1st hr should be free and should extend longer than 3 hours
Massive impact, this will kill our trade, shops will suffer
Create parking on the downs, or dig under the downs like London. Something has to be done but this is not the way forward
Our clients will move away from Clifton
Resdients parking permits cheap by comparison to businesses
Permit parking in all non retail areas for four hours. Provide more alternative transport
We are considering moving as our customers won't be able to park nor will our staff who have no other alternative in
transport, the cost of a business permit is too high
Why has this been extended from 9-5 and Mon to Fri - please change back
We have 3 Directors who each own the building, we require more business permits
Businesses should be able to purchase more than 5 customer permits we need to encourage custom to the Village not
(discourage it) keep them away
Permit costs should be in line with residential permits
This should be the same price as residents or lower as in Cotham etc
Massive impact on our staff - who live in Somerset and too far to get public transport, we will consider moving if RPS comes
in to play
We hold meetings for 10 clients or more who require to stay longer than 3 hrs, we purchase catering from CV and we will be
forced to move outside of Clifton for meetings with RPS
More business permits for estate agents required
Meter parking rates ok
Less parking we lose footfall for already strubbling retailers
If businesses close there will be an impact on the Village as a whole, Residents alone will not be able to keep independent
shops going
Less customers will mean decreased business and loss of jobs
Differential between business permits and res permits not correct, 1st bus permit should be free or the same as res
Put a car park on the downs, improve structure in town so workers don't park in Clifton all day and walk to work - park and
ride.
Cost should be the same for business and resident permits
Lunch time trade (for restaurants especially) will be effected/Cribbs Causeway?( will seem attractive)
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Many indpendent businesses only require 1 or 2 passes compared to larger businesses who require a lot more
No one from the council or a councillor has been to ask my opinion or businesses in this road, is that democracy?!
Massive cost compared to residents. Completely over priced, Clifton relies on a lot of small businesses to keep its attraction.
This is not going to help any business
First hr free then as proposed (£1 per hr, 3 hrs max)
For some small independents the cosst of purchasing a hanging basket outside the shop is too much, the cost of a business
permit is therefore far too high and should match the residential price
If businesses fail, people will not come to Clifton - essential to have a car park
Allow cars to park on both sides of PV St but limit in mornings for deliveries. Try to make more parking spaces. Reduce the
cost of business permits
This is another costs to businesses that are already struggling in this expensive climate. Reduce don't introduce rates of
parking permits for businesses. We live 25 miles away so public transport is impossible
We will not be able to afford a parking permit so making traveling to work an even bigger issue (1.5 hrs travel at the moment)
This scheme will take business out of Cliftion Village so it becomes anouther run down high street. T
The number of permits for residents (in the main retail area) will squeeze out customers and small independents. Businesses
which rely on access for customers will suffer, customers will opt to shop at a Mall!!
We don't qualify for small business relief but we have a small business, rates in Clifton are very high
Why penalise the businesses? Many of us travel from areas where there is no public transport for the rediculous hours that
we have to work in order to ake our business survive
OK pay & display price if this is the same across Bristol
Believe the whole scheme is being rushed through with no real planning. No parking spaces are guaranteed and what we
need is an increase in allocated spaces for tourists and visitors. How can people visit if they can't park. The vast majority
travel in cars like it or not George Ferguson!
Too few paying parking spaces and too long an allocation. Too many residential parking spaces in the shopping area of
Clifton. Waterloo St is proposed to become residential parking therefore not allowing us any loading/unloading. We are a
busy shop with continuous deliveries and need this loading area which the current single lines allow.
Yes our shop front will be blocked by cars, we will be unable to load and unload. We will therefore have to do this in the
street (causing road blocking). Too few spaes for customers, peole will avoid the village, will not want ot pay - people will go
elsewhere, Cribbs Causeway I would suggest. This Village will not benefit from this new scheme. All businesses will be
affected (detrmentally)
No St parking on our St (yet) there are enough flats with parking spaces. A loading/unloading bay for us to use also the shop
opposite who equally require loading/unloading. I propose parking increased to 2 hrs, no paying for parking RPS aroung
areas such as Caledonia Sq and other areas that do not have shops
Waterloo St is part business/part residential, we need pay and display in this street. Clifton Village has very mixed use, not
like Kingsdown/Cotham
Should be 8am to 6pm
No should be 1 free businesss permit
No - one hour free is much more suitable for a quick visit
If customers have to find a place to park they will go elsewhere
More pay and display less residential, proper thought out zoning
Waterloo St is both business + residential. Access for customers is essential more pay and display and adequate parking
required. Clifton Villlage is home to a wide variety of independent businesses. The residents parking scheme does not
support adequate parking for customers, trades will suffer
Worried about staff levels in the future more transport and park and ride a must
We relay on footfall if this decreases we may be have to close due to lack of trade
In Kings St/Boyces Av, BCC took 30% off our turnover when they removed a one way street without proper planning and
consultation. The proposed RPS offers a rediculous decrease in available parking spaces - how will the retail/restaruant
businesses ever survive.
No guaranteed place to park and Royal York Crescent layout just won't work - the road is too narrow
Permit costs too expensive, why does the same rate as residents (not) apply to businesses
More alternative transport required - better bus service from other areas rather than the city centre. Park and ride a must
Our clients could be here for up to 5 hours, they come to the village for an appointment, then shop, have lunch in the village
I could lose staff and my clients may be put off coming to the Village because of the hassle of parking (caused by few parking
spaces for visitors and clients)
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The pay and display costs does not seem too bad
This is an extra tax on my staff, my business and my customers which no one wants
Pay and display required for our trade in V. Square (we trade in Boyces Avenue)
Further passes required for business purposes - costs too high when compared to residents costs, bring in line £240 v £48
Anticipate less footfall and less retail appeal
I am a small business and only require 2 business permits, (suspect others are the same) larger businesses require more
This should be 6pm as in Kingsdown. Saturdays should not be included, hrs of operation should be 9-6 Mon - Fri
The business permit prices seem very expensive considering the types of shops in the village (small independent)
Should be Mon - Fri but really it shouldn't be brought in
Business permit costs are far too high - rediculous! Costs should be the same as Kingsdown
Happy with the P&D My customers will be able to stay longer in the Village, enjoy all that the village has to offer
I'm concerned many offices will move their operations out of the Village and we will lose lunchtime trade (as a result)
Turn single yellow lines into customer shopping bays (PV Street), give more permits to companies and charge less, no
restrictions ar weekends. I still can't find a parking space close to my home in Kingsdown so I'm not convinced this will solve
anything in the Village either (for residents)
I hear some of the larger businesses may move elsewhere as staff won't be able to park anywhere, the impact of this on our
business would be catastrophic. Cliftons appeal are its large independent traders why push them out of business
30 mins free is not long enough to be useful for anyone using the Village. The split between permit only and shared use bays
is too much in favour of residents and not visitors to the Village as tourists and as customers of retail outlets, staff parking
will be impossible
Businesses should be entitled to at least one free permit or at a much lower rate, this scheme can only be detrimetnatl to
businesse and yet the rates for business permits is over 4 times higher than for a residential permit. Residents with off street
parking should not be entitled to permits - residents should not be entitled to 3 permits per address. There will be no spaces
left for visitors/customers, I can't see how a customer permit can be that useful for the type (retail) of busineses...
Discount rates should apply to all business permits or the 1st one free. Most businesses in CV wil not be entitled to small
business rates relief due to the apparent rateable values of properties being so high in CV. Residents should not be allowed
whatever the cost 3 permits. Residents in PV may well be able to afford 3 permits and where will that leave alocation of
spaces for businesses and clients?
30 mins free (before pay and display) is too little to be of much use
The current parking in The Mall is fine and people abide by the limited hrs. More spaces for visitors are needed. If people
drive around and see permit spaces free (as you see in London) they will stop making the effort to come to Clifton - it will be
frustrating for them when they can't park
Longer free parking in The Mall 2 hrs or 1 hr as now. More p&d (with free parking) section as opposed to residential/permit
sections. Improve the transport infrastucture up to CV FIRST - park and ride. This is being done the wrong way around improve the transport facilities first and then look at residential parking
It should be 9-5
I think the parking should stay as it is, It is already hard for my staff and clients to park and this is going to make it 100
times worse and stop people coming here
We require less restricted parking and more p&d and permit business parking
Proposed price is too high in comparison to residents permits and permits in other parts of the city. Rsidents want to live in
a viabrant area but it won't be (if businesses are priced out by parking)
Portland St and Waterloo St work well as they are, don't think it is fair that residents take up most of the area. We need to get
places as workers and shoppers put more public transport on
The proposed scheme is going to effect business if I go out of business 8 people with children will lose - this is unthinkable
We need more people not less to come to the Village if we are to survive, we are already struggling. Yes this will be
detrimental to business as this willl cause some cusstomers to look at other options of shopping with (easy or) free parking
We need a bus for people who park and ride to the Village may be from Cabot/Long Ashton park and ride
Parking is an issue in Clifton already without fewer spaces and having to pay - this will put people off coming to Clifton. Our
business rates are crazy money, without an additional cost on top. People buy houses in Clifton knowing they have no off
Street parking but they get other benefits for living in the Village
It is already extremely difficult to park any where in Clifton at the moment so this make it worse and shoppers will go
elsewhere. Will affect small businesses with no standing (single yellow line).It is hard for people to stop and load
This is a false economy putting parking money in council pockets. If the council helpped businesses in Clifton and Bristol
more then the council would reap bigger benefits across all of Bristol in the long run
If people can't park and have to pay they won't come to Clifton. They will go to the shopping Malls instead - easier and free
A lot of traders live elsewhere, Clifton is too expensive to live in and need to park all day for free, bring this scheme in and
you will bankrupt them (the businesses).
Build a car park or increase better public transport (for staff). Allow yellow lines for picking up goods and deliveries
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