EACPT Lifetime Award winner Professor Carlo Patrono discussing platelets, cardiovascular risk and cancer with EACPT Secretary Professor Donald Singer at 11th EACPT Congress in Geneva 31st August, 2013. Listen to podcast discussion DS I am in Geneva at the 11th EACPT Congress with Professor Carlo Patrono, who has just received the EACPT Lifetime Achievement Award from our organisation’s cofounder Folke Sjöqvist. Would you start by explaining how you became interested in the platelet area. CP Yes, I became interested in platelets in the early 70s because of my interest in prostaglandins at the time and fundamental discoveries being made by John Vane and Bengt Samuelsson, particularly the discovery by Bengt Samuelsson of thromboxane A2 as a major arachidonic acid metabolite in platelets. I was already interested in the pharmacology of platelet inhibition and when thromboxane was discovered I soon developed a radioimmunoassay for measuring thromboxane B2. By the late 70s we had developed a simple whole blood method that would allow us to measure the most sensitive and specific signal of aspirin pharmacodynamics: that is the production of thromboxane by circulating platelets, a method that could be applied either to in vitro studies by adding drugs to the whole blood sample or ex vivo studies which led us to the next step of studying the clinical pharmacology of platelet thromboxane inhibition. DS We now know that this is a key way in which aspirin is operating and it is now recognised clinically around the world that using low dose aspirin is very important in terms of reducing and preventing risk of cardiovascular disease. How did you become interested in this concept of using aspirin in this way. CP Up until the late 70s, the only way that platelet function could be studied, was by the method described by Gustav Born a well known British Pharmacologist, the son of Max Born, the Nobel Prize Laureate in Physics. Not surprisingly Gustav, who used to find in his house people like Albert Einstein and perhaps as a consequence of his childhood training, devised a very elegant method, measuring light transmission through a platelet suspension to detect changes in platelet aggregation as a consequence of adding agonists to this platelet suspension and drugs. The problem with this technique is that it lacks sensitivity and specificity, because light transmission would be the end-product of the suspension becoming clearer as a consequence of the platelet aggregating and going to the bottom of the cuvette. So it doesn’t tell you specifically which mediators, which receptors, are involved in this signal that you measure. Using our approach, that is the measurement of thromboxane production by platelets in whole blood, we were able to measure a signal which is 100% aspirin sensitive, and highly specific. This led us to study the clinical pharmacology of platelet inhibition and we found that you only needed very low doses of aspirin in order to fully inhibit platelet thromboxane production, particularly by exploiting the cumulative nature of platelet COX-1 inactivation by repeated daily doses of aspirin because of the irreversible nature of this acetylation process, which forms the basis of aspirin mechanism of action. 1 By the early 80s using this technique we described full inhibition of platelet thromboxane production by doses as low as 30 mg once daily. This stimulated other people to do similar studies and this eventually stimulated cardiologists and neurologists around the world to test the clinical efficacy and safety of these low doses of aspirin. DS And of course it is really important practically because there is always a risk benefit with medicines and trying to avoid the unwanted bleeding complications. There are many other options now available to interfere with platelet function. What do you see the future of these agents in terms of giving added value for reducing risk of serious complications in our patients. CP Well I think we have made substantial progress through the development of new anti-platelet agents as well as the oral anti-coagulant agents. We are still dealing with the problem that there is a residual rate of major vascular events that occur after a clinical diagnosis of an acute coronary syndrome. This apparently cannot be further reduced by optimal combination anti platelet therapy: not even with the addition of new oral anti coagulants. So probably one way forward is to further investigate the mechanisms responsible for this residual risk of atherothrombotic events. There are also further developments related to my interest in aspirin, which is the recent discovery by a group in Oxford led by Peter Rothwell that within the cardiovascular trials of aspirin, either primary or secondary prevention, there was clear evidence of protection against various forms of cancer, in particular colorectal cancer. We are currently intrigued by the possibility that these chemo-preventative effect of aspirin may be somehow related to its anti platelet properties. Platelet activation at sites of intestinal mucosal injury may trigger the release of various signals of both lipid and protein nature that in turn can induce COX-2 in adjacent epithelial and stromal cells of the intestinal mucosa. We know from a very large body of evidence that COX- 2 induction and activity plays a pivotal role in colorectal carcinogenesis. This might explain why you apparently can get the same protective effects either acting upstream with low doses of aspirin inhibiting platelet activation or downstream by inhibiting COX-2 activity with COX-2 inhibitors. Testing the hypothesis that platelets have something to do with early intestinal carcinogenesis, is currently attracting a lot of my interest and time. DS That illustrates the importance of keeping a very open mind about off-targets or new targets for molecules and pathways across different therapeutic areas. CP Absolutely. We as clinical pharmacologists are in a privileged position. If we develop an interest for a lateral view outside of our main field of interest like looking at oncology and not just cardiovascular diseases, I think this can be a source of very interesting discoveries. DS Carlo Patrono, thank you very much indeed. CP Thank-you. 2