BISHOPSTONE FAMILY HISTORY BLOG ENTRIES
As at August 2015
General Village Blog
Dr peter Scott
19/9/2012
Hello Bishopstone
I am interested in information about my ancestors (mother's family) who lived in
Bishopstone. Their names were LANHAM. William Lanham (1806-86) left Bishopstone for
Australia on the ship WOODBRIDGE in 1838. His ancestors (father George, grandfather
John, greatgrandfather, greatgreatgrandfather john and his father thomas) go back to
another John Lanham who was born in 1624 all lived in Bishopstone. Any information
would be useful
Cheers
Peter
New Bishopstone Village Blog
mr.v.lesterlink
24/8/2011
A late relative,Mrs.Louisa Rowden,used to live at the old dairy,behind what was Tom
Robinsons farm...I often spent my summer hols there,around 1948-52..often helped with
the harvest,on a farm,owned I believe by the Wort family?.tho may have mispelt the
name,.many happy meemorys of your lovely village,good luck,and take care.
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Peter Scott
4/4/2012
Hello. I am trying to find information about my distant relatives who came from
Bishopstone. My great grandfather Thomas Lanham was born in Yass, NSW, AUstralia in
1871 but his father, William (born 1807) came from Bishopstone (his wife was Ann Case)
as did his father George Lanham (married Mary Hibbard). As all of the Lanhams in Yass
were the blacksmiths, I think that might have been their work in Bishopstone. Any details
please
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Robyn Lanham
20/8/2013
I have information about the Lanham family from Bishoptstone. My husband's
grandfather was Thomas Lanham, gg grandparents William Lanham & Anne Case.
Contact me if you want information
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Chris Lanham
16/3/2014
Hi Robyn, I was wondering if I could get that information from you in relation to the
Lanham's. My wife and I will be going to Bishopstone in July, and I'd love to find out
information about our ancestral home.
Peter Scott
30/1/2015
Sorry Robyn, I lost your contact details. What was your husband's Christian name and his
fathers name, please. I would like to know that part of the Lanham Family please
Debbie Hurseylink
16/4/2012
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John Needham
10/8/2013
I'm trying to trace relatives from Bishopstone. My granddad was born there in 1869. His
name was Charles Turner.
I would be most interested to recieve any information on the Turner family history.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Very best regards.
John Needham
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Lorraine Isaac Ryan
8/1/2014
G'day I am an Australian and I have just learnt that my ancestors lived in your village in
the 1800s. my 4x great grandparents Charles Isaac & Maria (nee Feltham) Isaac I hope to
visit your village later this year.....very excited !
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Anne Cummings
12/6/2011
I am looking for information on the family of Dibbens. They used to live at Flamstone
Farm and left on a ship for Australia in 1911 or 1912. They had 11 children. If anyone has
any information I would be grateful if you would email me.
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Dot Gurd
25/6/2012
Hello Anne and Rosemary
The Dibben family came to live in Bishopstone in the mid 19th century from Stoke Wake,
a small village in Dorset.As you know, the brothers Edwin and George Dibben farmed
Bishopstone Farm (near the church) and later Flamston Farm together in the latter half of
the 19th century. They were two of the 12 children of Yeoman farmer John Dibben and
Susannah Shepherd who married on 5 September 1809 in Stoke Wake. Edwin and
George Dibben married two sisters (Anne and Sarah Summers) in Stoke Wake and
brought their wives to live in Bishopstone where their children were born. Sadly, Edwin's
wife Anne died in September 1846, 3 months after the birth of their second daughter
Fanny. Little Fanny followed her mother to the churchyard a month later aged just 5
months. The 1851 Census for Bishopstone, finds a widowed Edwin with brother George
and George's wife and children all living at Flamston Farm. They were farming 894 acres,
so it isn't surprising that they employed 32 labourers!
Flamston Farmhouse is hidden behind the farm buildings, so it's not surprising that you
couldn't find it, Rosemary.
I will soon be adding old pictures of Bishopstone to 'our' village section of the Wiltshire
Online Parish Clerk website at http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/
Among them is a late 19th/early 20th century photo of Flamston Farmhouse.
If you are happy for the website coordinator to let me have your email addresses, I can
mail you both the image.
Regards, Dot
PS. For all family researchers - the Dorset Online Parish Clerk website is at
http://www.opcdorset.org/
Anyone with south west Wiltshire ancestors would do well to also look for them in
Dorset, as the folk from the little villages both sides of the County border tended to move
backwards and forwards as they moved to new employment etc.
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Val Everson
4/8/2012
I would like to publicly thank Dot Gurd for her stirling work on the Bishopstone Parish
Registers, they have helped me a lot in researching the Compton, Mussell[white], and
Dawkins families who lived in Bishopstone for several hundred years. I have been able to
go sideways as well as back with my trees,
However I dont suppose she knows where William Dawkins born abt 1750 who married
Sarah, came from? there first child was born Bishopstone farm 1774, but there are no
Dawkins prior to this - ah well just keep looking
Dot Gurd
17/8/2012
Hello Val
Hello Val,
I thought I'd dig around for a while before I replied to your letter about the Dawkins
family. After finding several 'possible' baptisms and a marriage, I decided none of them
were particularly encouraging. I tried a different tack and made a search for 'Dawkins'
'Bishopstone' on the National Archives A2A website. I have found some interesting clues,
which seem to point to a link between the Bishopstone Dawkins family and Barford St
Martin, but I only have the titles to go on. Below are the references you need to order
photocopies of all the pieces. You can make enquiries about ordering etc to the London
Metropolitan Archives
Email: ask.lma@cityoflondon.gov.uk
Website: http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/lma
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[no title] MS 11936/438/795764 3 November 1806
These documents are held at London Metropolitan Archives
Contents:
Insured: Edward Griffin, The Sun Fire Office, Cornhill, Esq
Other property or occupiers: 49 Tufton Street, Westminster (Tomlin; Tomlin and Carner
feather manufacturer); 50 Tufton Street (Mrs Whitham widow); Bishopston, Wiltshire
(Brooks farmer); Barford, Wiltshire (Dawkins farmer; Musslewhite weaver)
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[no title] MS 11936/449/852156 12 December 1810
These documents are held at London Metropolitan Archives
Contents:
Insured: Edward Griffin, the Sun Fire Office, Cornhill, Esq
Other property or occupiers: 49 (Tomlin; Corner, feather manufacturer) and 50 (Mrs
Witham, widow) Tufton Street Westminster; Bishopston Wilstshire (Brooks, farmer);
Barford Wltshire (Dawkins, farmer; Musselwhite, weaver)
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[no title] MS 11936/455/869019 5 March 1812
These documents are held at London Metropolitan Archives
Contents:
Insured: Edward Griffin, the Sun Fire Office, Cornhill, esq
Other property or occupiers: 14 Tufton Street, Westminster (Yeomans; Corner feather
manufacturer); 50 Tufton Street (Jenkyns); Mottingham Kent; Bishopston Wiltshire
(Harding, farmer); Barford Wiltshire (Dawkins, farmer; Musselwhite, weaver)
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Information relating to document ref. no. MS 11936/472/927912
adjoining (Yeomans and Corrner, feather manufacturer); 50 Tufton Street Westminster
(Stent); Bishopstone Wilts (Harding, farmer); Barford Wilts (Dawkins, farmer). [London
Metropolitan Archives, Records of Sun Fire...] Date: 1817
Source: Access to Archives (A2A): not kept at The National Archives
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[no title] MS 11936/481/960277 8 November 1819
These documents are held at London Metropolitan Archives
Contents:
Insured: Edward Griffin The Sun Fire Office Cornhill esq
Other property or occupiers: 49 Tufton Street Westminster (yeoman; Byles wine
merchant); 50 Tufton Street (Stent); thatched house at Bishopstone, Wilts (Rowden);
thatched house, barn and stable at Barford, Wilts (Dawkins farmer)
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Information relating to document ref. no. MS 11936/484/968173
Insured: Edward Griffith the Sun Fire Office Cornhill Other property or occupiers: 49
Grafton Street Westminster (Yeomans; Byles wine merchants); 50 Grafton Street (Stent):
Bishopstone Wilts (Rouden); Barford Wilts (Dawkins farmer). [London Metropolitan
Date: 1820
Source: Access to Archives (A2A): not kept at The National Archives
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[no title] MS 11936/484/985359 7 November 1821
These documents are held at London Metropolitan Archives
Contents: Insured: Edward Willis Griffin Bath esq
Other property or occupiers: 49 (yeoman) and 50 Tufton Street (Hunt; Byles wine
merchant); Bishopstone Wilts (Rowden); Barford Wilts (late Dawkins)
Date 1821
Source: Access to Archives (A2A): not kept at The National Archives
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I suggest you also make a search on the A2A website for 'Dawkins Bishopstone' BUT
limiting the results to documents held at the Wiltshire and Swindon Archives - to cut out
thousands of useless Dawkins red herrings!
Regards, Dot
Brian Penney
14/10/2012
I do apologise for adding a comment to a string but cannot see how to start a new string.
I am researching my family tree and have come across a Frederick Penny who seems to
have spent his life in Bishopstone. I have records that would suggest he was born in or
about September 1853, but then I checked the Parish baptism records transcribed by Dot
and discover he was baptised on 5 December 1852 which is almost a year before he was
born which may show great foresight by his parents, James Penny and Mary Mitchell, or
may mean one of the dates is wrong. If anybody can throw some light on this problem I
would be very appreciative.
Dot Gurd
15/10/2012
In a recent message BRIAN PENNY said; "I am researching my family tree and have come
across a Frederick Penny who seems to have spent his life in Bishopstone. I have records
that would suggest he was born in or about September 1853, but then I checked the
Parish baptism records transcribed by Dot and discover he was baptised on 5 December
1852 which is almost a year before he was born"
NOTE from Dot to Brian.
I have checked the Parish Register and the date for Frederick's baptism is correct. There
is a baptism of a further child for James and Mary - (James Penny on May 7th 1854).
James Penny junior's baptism in the May would make it highly unlikely that there was a
child (?a Frederick) born the previous September.
However, in the Broad Chalke Register there was a Frederick Penny baptised on 11th
September 1853. His parents were a James and Elizabeth Penny.
As James and Mary Penny at Bishopstone had a child baptised in
, the James Penny living at Broad Chalke could not have been the same person with a
new wife and child.
The village families were unadventurous when it came to naming their children, so one
frequently finds almost identical families growing side by side
Regards, Dot
Linda Ollinger
21/4/2013
Like Brian Penney, I could not find a way to post, so am jumping in here.
My Name is Linda and I live in a remote area of Nebraska USA. I just arrived here to your
Bishopstone history web page as I was curious to see where my Great, Gr, Grandfather
was supposed to have been born. His name was John R Williams and he was to have
been born in your area around 1817. He eventually made his way to Washington Kansas
USA, where he was successful in the cattle business, and was recognized as one of the
best posted men in the line of endeavor in his section of the state, according to the
"Kansas, a Cyclopedia of State History"
I appreciate the history you have put up on this page.
Kind Regards,
Linda
Susanne Shoemaker
23/1/2015
I am seeking information on my relatives. I have established Paul Bishop, b.1750, in
Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire. It appears other family members, in particular, Job Bishop
b. 25 Jul 1722, lived in Bishopstone. The baptismal records are from Poulshot, Wiltshire.
Could you please help me establish this connection? Many thanks.
Dot Gurd
25/6/2012
Hello Anne and Rosemary
The Dibben family came to live in Bishopstone in the mid 19th century from Stoke Wake,
a small village in Dorset.As you know, the brothers Edwin and George Dibben farmed
Bishopstone Farm (near the church) and later Flamston Farm together in the latter half of
the 19th century. They were two of the 12 children of Yeoman farmer John Dibben and
Susannah Shepherd who married on 5 September 1809 in Stoke Wake. Edwin and
George Dibben married two sisters (Anne and Sarah Summers) in Stoke Wake and
brought their wives to live in Bishopstone where their children were born. Sadly, Edwin's
wife Anne died in September 1846, 3 months after the birth of their second daughter
Fanny. Little Fanny followed her mother to the churchyard a month later aged just 5
months. The 1851 Census for Bishopstone, finds a widowed Edwin with brother George
and George's wife and children all living at Flamston Farm. They were farming 894 acres,
so it isn't surprising that they employed 32 labourers!
Flamston Farmhouse is hidden behind the farm buildings, so it's not surprising that you
couldn't find it, Rosemary.
I will soon be adding old pictures of Bishopstone to 'our' village section of the Wiltshire
Online Parish Clerk website at http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/
Among them is a late 19th/early 20th century photo of Flamston Farmhouse.
If you are happy for the website coordinator to let me have your email addresses, I can
mail you both the image.
Regards, Dot
PS. For all family researchers - the Dorset Online Parish Clerk website is at
http://www.opcdorset.org/
Anyone with south west Wiltshire ancestors would do well to also look for them in
Dorset, as the folk from the little villages both sides of the County border tended to move
backwards and forwards as they moved to new employment etc.
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Rosemary Nelson
16/8/2012
Thank you for this information Dot. I have spent many hours looking at the opc dorset
records and haven't been able to find any information about where John Dibben and
Susannah Shepherd came from before Stoke Wake. I would be happy for the website
coordinator to pass on my email address to you Dot and also to Anne who is also
interested in the family.
Rosemary Nelson
19/6/2011
My grandfather was the youngest of the 11 Dibben children and they settled at Pinnaroo
in South Australia. I recently visited Bishopstone and looked at the church and family
headstones but couldn't find Flamstone house. Other family members have researched
the history more.
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Roger Stockton
20/6/2011
These queries will be passed on to our local expert for a reply.
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Mike Howe
20/6/2011
Hello
My great grandparents John and Martha Thick lived in Bishopstone from approx. 1875
until their deaths in in the early 1930's.
They had 14 children, one of whom was Lilian Bessie Thick (known as Bessie) born in
1894. I can trace 'Bessie' on the 1911 census, still in Bishopstone, but after that date I
cannot trace a marriage or a death.
Hopefully she lived a long and happy life, but I would be grateful if anyone can provide
any information.
Thanks
Mike
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Sue King
25/6/2011
Hello
My interest in your lovely village comes from my mother;s family having lived there since
at least the 1500s. A Francis Myhell, stonemason of Flamberstone,made a will in 1609
and three of his descendants did too. The last Mihell living in the village was Edward,
elder brother of my gt gt grandfather who joined the Royal Marines and founded the
Portsmouth Mihells. Edward was a tailor and had what is now Netton House built in 1821
as a home and shop. He married in your church in 1830 and was a witness at a niece's
wedding to a village shopkeeper James Parrett in 1835 but then he and his wife vanish.
No burial records and not on 1841 census. Unlikely that a comfortably-off tailor would
have gone to the Colonies with the 1838 emigrants. Would your local expert have any
ideas about what could have happened to them?
I have visited Bishopstone twice. The only legible Mihell graves are for Edward's parents
and a broken stump with Here Lyeth ...f Joseph Myhell 1666 on it. He was a baby
belonging to one of the later masons. He had no living children and when widowed late
in life married a much younger women and left everything to her. I hope it was not the
family that damaged the stone in a fit of pique.
Regards
Sue King
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Piers Edwards
22/6/2012
Dear Sue,
Thank you for putting that information up on the website, I live at Netton House and you
have answered a question which we had so far been unable to answer; when it was built.
We are grateful to Edward for building the house we now call home.
Yours,
Piers Edwards
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Dot Gurd
7/9/2011
My apologies to Sue, Anne, Rosemary and Mike for not replying to your questions earlier.
The link which used to notify me when new messages were posted, appears to have
stopped working. I will get back to you regarding your individual questions in the next
few days.
In the meantime,you and others will hopefully find the Wiltshire Online Parish Clerk
website useful. The URL for the Wilts website is http://www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk/
The free website which is run by volunteers, holds local history and genealogical records
for Parishes in Wiltshire
My transcriptions of the Parish Registers from 1636 - 1909 for baptisms and 1636 - 1920
for marriages and burials are available on the Bishopstone pages, along with other
historical village records. New items are added as they become available.
Regards, Dot Gurd
Online Parish Clerk for Bishopstone (South Wiltshire)
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Rosemary Nelson
16/9/2011
Thanks Dot,
I have found useful information on your opc website. I'm happy to correspond with Sue
in answer to her query about the Dibbens but don't have access to an email address.
Regards
Rosemary
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Janet O'Callaghan
5/10/2011
Hello
I have recently started doing some research on my family tree and in particular following
the ancestory line of Wagg which seems to originate in Bishopston, Bishopstone,
Wiltshire. I have discovered a William J. Wagg who was born early 1700's and was living
in Bishopstone when he was approximately 70 years of age.
Can anyone give me some more information on the Wagg family lines from
Bishopstone?
This could well mean a visit to look at Church records.
Kind regards
Janet
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Dot Gurd
4/3/2012
Hello again Janet
I have just realised that the second half of the message I sent yesterday is missing.
I was about to explain that due problems caused by a hacker, the Wiltshire OPC website
has recently been re-built. Although we think all is now running smoothly, there is a
slight chance there may be occasional teething problems. If that is the case, try again in a
few days, as you might find the other information on the parish file helpful.
The Bishopstone Register transcriptions are also available on the Moonrakers Forum
website at
http://www.moonrakers.org.uk/files.asp
The files are in Excel format and can be downloaded from the website. As always with
transcriptions, the reader should be aware that transcribers are human! Mistakes can
happen sometimes. If you do find an error please let me know.
The Moonrakers Forum for folk who are researching Wiltshire ancestors or places, is a
relatively small, friendly,group. Membership is free and I can recommend it to anyone
who wants to share information, ask for advice, or just follow the lines of discussion.
Dot Gurd
Wilts OPC for Bishopstone and Donhead St Mary
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Dot Gurd
4/3/2012
Hello again Janet
I have just realised that the second half of the message I sent yesterday is missing.
I was about to explain that due problems caused by a hacker, the Wiltshire OPC website
has recently been re-built. Although we think all is now running smoothly, there is a
slight chance there may be occasional teething problems. If that is the case, try again in a
few days, as you might find the other information on the parish file helpful.
The Bishopstone Register transcriptions are also available on the Moonrakers Forum
website at
http://www.moonrakers.org.uk/files.asp
The files are in Excel format and can be downloaded from the website. As always with
transcriptions, the reader should be aware that transcribers are human! Mistakes can
happen sometimes. If you do find an error please let me know.
The Moonrakers Forum for folk who are researching Wiltshire ancestors or places, is a
relatively small, friendly,group. Membership is free and I can recommend it to anyone
who wants to share information, ask for advice, or just follow the lines of discussion.
Dot Gurd
Wilts OPC for Bishopstone and Donhead St Mary
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Dot Gurd
4/3/2012
Hello again Janet
I have just realised that the second half of the message I sent yesterday is missing.
I was about to explain that due problems caused by a hacker, the Wiltshire OPC website
has recently been re-built. Although we think all is now running smoothly, there is a
slight chance there may be occasional teething problems. If that is the case, try again in a
few days, as you might find the other information on the parish file helpful.
The Bishopstone Register transcriptions are also available on the Moonrakers Forum
website at
http://www.moonrakers.org.uk/files.asp
The files are in Excel format and can be downloaded from the website. As always with
transcriptions, the reader should be aware that transcribers are human! Mistakes can
happen sometimes. If you do find an error please let me know.
The Moonrakers Forum for folk who are researching Wiltshire ancestors or places, is a
relatively small, friendly,group. Membership is free and I can recommend it to anyone
who wants to share information, ask for advice, or just follow the lines of discussion.
Dot Gurd
Wilts OPC for Bishopstone and Donhead St Mary
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Ralph Turvey
24/11/2011
Volume 11 of the Victoria County History for Wiltshire sets out in sometimes excruciating
detail all of Bishopstone's history that can be gleaned from legal and other records dating
from the Conquest to the nineteen-seventies. It was published in 1980 and the text is
now fully available online at
www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=115482
There is space in the title page for typing in a name and pressing "Go"; all occurrences in
the text of that name are then highlighted.
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Roger Stockton
11/2/2012
Ralph,
Thank you. You will see this link and the wiltshire council link on the Village History page.
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Robin Bishop
10/2/2012
I am looking for information on a Case family that lived in Bishopstone. My great great
grandparents were Thomas and Elizabeth (Ings) Case who came to Australia in the
'Woodbridge" in 1838. They were married at Bishopstone in 1837. I would love to trace
the family back further.
Regards
Robin
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Dot Gurd
31/5/2015
Hello Robin. I am very sorry about the long delay. A crashed computer and a very long
period of ill health have kept me away from this website for a very long time. Here (at
last!) are the results of my search for your Case family. I do hope they will be useful.
Best wishes, Dot
Hello Robin
Here are the results of my search for your Case family
Unless I have stated otherwise, the events all took place at St John the Baptist Church,
Bishopstone.
As you know, your ancestors Thomas Case and Elizabeth Ings married on 20 February
1837
Their Witnesses at the Marriage were William Foyle and Louisa Adams.
------------------Thomas Case’s parents and siblings:
William CASE married Elizabeth CHANT on 20 December 1802 at Broad Chalke Church
(Elizabeth Chant was baptized on 17 January 1773 at Broad Chalke Church, daughter of
John and Mary Chant)
----------------Elizabeth Ings' (Thomas’s wife) parents
Elizabeth Ings was baptized on 5 October 1817, daughter of George and Martha Ings
(NOTE: George Ings (of Bishopstone) married Martha Francis (of Barford St Martin) on 25
December 1811 at Barford St Martin, Wilts
----------------Baptisms of William and Elizabeth Case’s 10 children
John Case bapt 10 October 1803
James Case bapt 3 November 1805
Richard Case bapt 9 November 1807
George Case bapt 14 January 1810
Ann Case private baptism 3 February 1812, public baptism 2 September 1812
Jane Case bapt 1 May 1814
Thomas Case bapt 12 October 1817
Eliza Case bapt 12 November 1820
Henry Case bapt 15 December 1822
Harriet Case bapt 6 February 1825
For the last 6 baptisms their address was recorded as 'Netton, Bishopstone' and their
father's occupation was given as 'Labourer'.
William Case of Netton, Bishopstone died in 1835 and was buried 3 March 1835 in the
churchyard of St John the Baptist Church.
William’s widow Elizabeth Case (née Chant) in the Censuses - below:
1841 Census Bishopstone Wilts
Elizabeth Case; 60; Female Servant; born in Wiltshire
Harriet Case; 15; born in Wiltshire
Jane Gibbs; 61; born in Wiltshire
Charlotte Gibbs; 23; born in Wiltshire
Mary Gibbs; 5; born in Wiltshire
It’s interesting to see that a Jane Gibbs was visiting or staying with Elizabeth (above) on
Census night. Jane Gibbs’ son John Gibbs, also emigrated on the Woodbridge with his
wife and 3 children. He was married to Susan/Susanna Case a daughter of Henry and Ann
Case - a second Case family living in the village at that time. In fact Henry and Ann Case’s
son Thomas also sailed to Australia with his relatives.
1851 Census Rockbourne, Hants
Rockbourne Street
Thomas Stickland; Head; 21; Ag Labourer; b. Broad Chalke, Wilts
Harriet Stickland; Wife; 26; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Elizabeth Case; Mother in Law; Widow; 71; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
NOTE: Harriet Case (above) married Thomas Stickland on 9 October 1850 at St John the
Baptist Church, Bishopstone.
Thomas’s father was given as James Stickland (Shepherd)
Harriet’s father was give as William Case (Labourer)
Witnesses at the Marriage were: Susan Scott and Isaac Lanham
Elizabeth Case (widow of Thomas), age 74 (‘of Croucheston, Bishopstone’) died in April
1853 and was buried on 11 April 1853 in the churchyard of St John the Baptist Church
---------------------------------Family of the Second Thomas Case, who also emigrated on the Woodbridge in 1838
Harry Case married Ann Williams on 20 August 1798 at St John the Baptist Church,
Bishopstone
Their Witnesses at the Marriage were John Young and Elizabeth Williams
Officiating: Rev Robert Evans
Baptisms of their children at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Mary Case bapt 17 February 1799
John Case bapt 20 September 1801
Susan Case bapt 9 November 1806
Henry Case bapt 22 May 1809
Ann Case bapt 28 June 1812
James Case bapt 26 February 1815 son of Harry and Ann Case of Netton, Bishopstone
(Father’s occupation – Labourer)
Thomas Case bapt 17 January 1819 son of Henry and Ann Case of Flamston, Bishopstone
(Father’s occupation – Labourer)
.
Marriage 18 December 1797 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
George CASE (Bachelor) married Jemima COX (spinster)
Witnesses: John Young & Anna Williams
Their children baptised at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
Michael Case baptised 1 July 1798
Francis Case baptised 27 July 1800
Ann Case baptised 30 Sept 1804
Harriot Case baptised 9 Nov 1806
William Case baptised 11 Sept 1808
John Case baptised 4 Nov 1810
Sarah Case baptised 13 Dec 1812
George Case baptised 8 Jan 1815
Reply
Dot Gurd
11/2/2012
I am able to help with your research. I will contact you when I have access to my
computer again later in the week.
Dot Gurd
Online Parish Clerk for Bishopstone (south) Wilts
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Robin Bishop
15/2/2012
Many thaks Dot. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
Robin
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matthew Day
22/2/2012
Dose anyone know the name of the blacksmiths from the village in the 1930s or have any
photos. I am writing a essay on locale blacksmiths.
Can anyone help?
Thank you
Matthew Day
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Dot Gurd
28/2/2012
Hello Robin
At last my new computer is up and running! Sorry about the delayed reply.
Did you know there were 2 Thomas Cases who emigrated on the ship 'Woodbridge' in
1838? I believe they are related (possibly cousins), but as I can't yet find the
births/baptisms of their respective father's I can't prove they were connected.
Comparison of the data for both Thomases confirms that 'your' Thomas was baptised on
12 October 1817 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone, son of William and Elizabeth
CASE (née CHANT) . Elizabeth was from Broad Chalke ( a village adjoining Bishopstone)
and the couple were married in Broad Chalke Church on 20 September 1802.
The Cases were related by marriage to the Gibbs family who were also on the
Woodbridge. John Gibbs wife Susan(na) née Case, was the sister of the 'other' Thomas
Case I mentioned earlier.
I have created a family data sheet for Thomas, his parents and his 9 siblings. It is too long
to paste here, but if you contact me directly at dgurd(at)gotadsl.co.uk , I can mail it to
you, together with the Woodbridge emigrants list.
Dot
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Paul Grey
20/7/2012
The Williams of Bishopstone
On 26 June 1831 Thomas Williams (baptised 6 Mar 1806, Bishopstone parish) and Mary
Ann Hewett (baptised 16 Sep 1810, Bishopstone parish) were married by banns in the
Bishopstone parish. Their first born child, Sarah Jane was baptised on 15 Jan 1832 whilst
Thomas, a labourer, and Mary were living in Croucheston. By 16 Feb 1834, when their
next child, Mary Ann, was baptised, the Williams family was living in Netton.
The family then moved to Throope where all their subsequent children were born. James
was baptised 22 May 1836, Sophia on 16 Feb 1838, and Jane on 19 Jul 1840. Thomas
Williams’ occupation is recorded as a labourer in all of these baptisms. However, by the
census night of 6 Jun 1841, Thomas’ occupation has changed to shepherd.
On 28 Jun 1842 their daughter Jane is buried aged 2. On 6 Apr 1844, a son Edward is
baptised. Mary Williams’ mother Betty Hewett of Croucheston, age 71, is buried 28 May
1848 and on 30 Apr 1850, Jane is buried at the age of 11.
On 4 Aug 1850, Jane Sophia, the illegitimate daughter of their eldest daughter Sarah
Jane, is baptised. Soon after on the 17 Sep 1850, John, the last child of Thomas and Mary
is baptised, however he only lives for 4 days and is buried on 19 Sep 1850.
The census night of 30 Mar 1851 records Thomas Williams and his surviving children and
his granddaughter Sarah Jane all living together in Throope. His wife Mary however is
found at ‘the rectory’ in Bishopstone village in the service of Francis Lear. Francis Lear
was the rector of Bishopstone and was officiating minister for most of the baptisms,
marriages and burials previously mentioned (starting with Edward’s baptism in 1844).
A year later, 19 Mar 1852, Thomas Williams, 46, is buried and on 4 Jun 1852 Edward
Hewett (abode Throope), the father of Mary, is also buried, age 78. A few months later,
29 Aug 1852, eldest daughter Sarah Jane marries John Munday, a labourer of
Bishopstone parish (father Stephen, labourer). They have a child in Throope, Henry,
baptised 11 Oct 1852 who only lives 2 days and is buried 15 Oct 1852.
Charles Williams, of Wilton Union Work House, the father of Thomas, is buried in
Bishopstone on 31 Jan 1855. Second oldest child of Thomas and Mary, Mary Ann, marries
Joseph Parrett (a labourer of Stratford Tony, father George) on 6 Nov 1856.
On the census night of 2 Apr 1861, Mary Williams (pauper), her son Edward (shepherd),
and granddaughter Jane Sophia are lodging with Joseph (groom) and Mary Parrett and
their son in Throope. Mary Williams is buried 20 Nov 1867, age 57, after having moved
back to Croucheston.
By the census of 1871, we find John (now a general gardener) and Sarah Mundy living in
East Harnham with their children. Jane, Sarah’s illegitimate child, is now also reunited
with this family. One of John and Sarah’s children is George William Mundy who joins the
navy at age 14, and deserts ship in Adelaide, Australia and changes his name to William
George Grey. But the story of WG Grey, my great grandfather, I will need to tell another
day.
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Dot Gurd
20/7/2012
Hello Paul
Thanks for sharing your family history. Hopefully you will contacted by others connected
to the Williams, Hewett, Parrett and Munday families. As you know, the first three
families feature in the Bishopstone Records, but the Parretts were very much a Stratford
Tony family and I remember the last family member bearing the surname, in the village,
when I was a child in the 1950s.Mrs Parrett was an elderly widow who lived in one of the
row of cottages behind the church.
Have you looked for family Wills or Administration papers on the Wiltshire Wills website?
If not, run a search for them at http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/heritage/index.php
You will have to run separate searches for variant spellings as there is no 'soundex'
facility on this site. There are no Wills for the Williams family in Bishopstone or Stratford,
but 11 Hewet papers confirm other evidence that some of the family were ''better off'
than many of the other labourers in the village and a few described themselves as
'Yeoman'.
There are 2 Wills dated 1800 and 1816 of the Parretts living in Stratford. As the village is
tiny, it is probable that they will be connected to Joseph in some way.
Regarding Thomas William's occupation, there is every chance that Thomas was working
as a Shepherd throughout his marriage. At the baptisms of his children, his occupation
would probably have been recorded according to the opinion of the Parish Priest. On the
other hand, the Census taker would have noted details given by Thomas or his wife, who
both would have been proud of his status in the community.
A glance through centuries of the Bishopstone Registers will show that the Incumbents
occasionally used the records to give their personal opinions about the folk they
baptised, married and buried. The various terms they used to describe single mothers
and their children, leave one in no doubt as to what they thought!!
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Jeremy Quin Smith
10/12/2012
Hi there
I am trying to trace my niece Catrionna Murray, who lived at Lower Mill with her family. I
know her brother Finn died of cancer in about 2004 and there was a service at the local
church. I am not sure whether she still lives in the area, or whether she has married or
any thing. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Jeremy
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Dot Gurd
22/12/2012
Hello Jeremy
From the National Birth Marriage and Death Records I see that Catriona married a
Lorenzo MICELI in 1996 (Salisbury Registration District - Volume 795, Page 338),
Previously there was a notification of their Engagement on 19th January 1996 in The
Times Newspaper.
Birth Marriage and Death Records give the birth of one child
Camilla MICELI (mother's maiden name - MURRAY) born December Salisbury District , Ref
No: A70C, District: 7951A, Entry Number: 039
Records available at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro
Hope this will help
Regards Dot Gurd
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Diane Morrall
30/1/2013
My great grandparents lived on Netton Farm around 1860's. His name was Samuel
Hubert Wheeler, his wife was Maria Morris. He was a farmer but also known as an 'Innkeepr and Maltser'. My grandparents, Hubert and Emily Jane Wheeler took on the farm
in the early 1900's. They brought the family to Australia in 1926 to farm in a remote area
in north Victoria. I visited Netton Farm in 2007 to see that it is now in private hands.
Does anyone living there have any information on the farm or on my family?
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Dot Gurd
13/2/2013
Hello Diane
I have been talking to the family who have farmed Netton Farm for several generations.
They know that a Mr Wheeler was the tenant and will be happy to hear from you and
help with your search. Although the farmhouse and adjacent buildings were sold a few
years ago they still own and farm all the land.If you email me at dgurd@gotadsl.co.uk , I
will put you in touch with them.
I am away for a few days but when you get in touch, I will let you have any information I
can find on the family.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Dot Gurd
13/2/2013
Hello Diane
I have been talking to the family who have farmed Netton Farm for several generations.
They know that a Mr Wheeler was the tenant and will be happy to hear from you and
help with your search. Although the farmhouse and adjacent buildings were sold a few
years ago they still own and farm all the land.If you email me at dgurd@gotadsl.co.uk , I
will put you in touch with them.
I am away for a few days but when you get in touch, I will let you have any information I
can find on the family.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Dot Gurd
13/2/2013
Hello Diane
I have been talking to the family who have farmed Netton Farm for several generations.
They know that a Mr Wheeler was the tenant and will be happy to hear from you and
help with your search. Although the farmhouse and adjacent buildings were sold a few
years ago they still own and farm all the land.If you email me at dgurd@gotadsl.co.uk , I
will put you in touch with them.
I am away for a few days but when you get in touch, I will let you have any information I
can find on the family.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Dot Gurd
13/2/2013
Hello Diane
I have been talking to the family who have farmed Netton Farm for several generations.
They know that a Mr Wheeler was the tenant and will be happy to hear from you and
help with your search. Although the farmhouse and adjacent buildings were sold a few
years ago they still own and farm all the land.If you email me at dgurd@gotadsl.co.uk , I
will put you in touch with them.
I am away for a few days but when you get in touch, I will let you have any information I
can find on the family.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Carolyn
12/3/2013
Hi
Firstly wanted to say what a great job you do Dot. I'm intrigued that so many of the
questions above relate to families moving from Bishopstone to South Australia - as this is
also the case for my family.
My great great great grandparents (Charles Norris and Annette Elizabeth Haines) were
married in Bishopstone in 1850. The moved to Australia in 1852 with their first child
William settling in the Adelaide hills.
This was their newspaper notice for their 50th wedding anniversary
GOLDEN WEDDINGS. NORRIS—HAINES.—On the 30th May, 1850 Eng land, in the Parish
Church, Bishopstone, Wilts, by the Rev. H. F. Beesley, Charles, eldest son of Mr. William
Norris, contractor, to Annette Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Mr. Christian Haines, farmer.
Arrived in the colony in 1852, having 2 sons, 7 daughters, and 41 grandchildren."
I believe Charles' father William Norris was also born in Bishopstone in 1811 and was
married to someone named Sarah.
I just wondered if you knew anything about the Norris or Haines families in Bishopstone?
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Dot Gurd
5/5/2013
Hello Carolyn
Sorry for the delay. I was certain that your Norris family wasn't connected to 'our'
Bishopstone near Salisbury and wanted to gather evidence for you, to show the real
home of the family. My suspicion that they were living in the 'other' Bishopstone in north
Wilts proved to be correct. This second Bishopstone lies in the far north-east of the
county near Swindon.
Although they lived in Bishopstone the children's baptisms were recorded incorrectly by
Ancestry.com, as taking place at Bishopstrow - a small village many miles away in
Wiltshire near Warminster. However 'Family Search' gives the correct place of baptism.
I first found the family in the 1841 Census, when Charles age 10, was living at home with
his parents and siblings. The first national Census (the 1841 Census) gives few exact
details. The relationship between those living in each dwelling wasn't given and adult
ages were frequently rounded down to the nearest 5 years. Places of birth, were merely
given as whether the person was born in the county of their residence or not. The next
Census in 1851, has more exact information given.
Charles Norris's father William married Sarah HAINS on 3rd September 1827 at
Bishopstone (near Swindon in north Wiltshire)
Children of William & Sarah Norris
(Baptisms in Bishopstone (north) Wiltshire
(Family Search - Batch Number C02377-8)
Note: 'Your' Charles was the couple's oldest child.r
Charles Norris 11 Jan 1830
George Norris 27 May 1832
Jane Norris 13 Jan 1833
Jane Norris 7 June 1834
Mary Norris (Baptism not found, but she is recorded on the Censuses)
Elizabeth Ann Norris 3 Nov 1839
Martha Norris 3 July 1842
Ann Norris 29 Sept 1844
Sarah Norris 7 Feb 1847
Eliza Phillis Norris 10 Sept 1849
Later children - baptisms not found online
Annetta Jane Norris born March Quarter 1852
Ellen Rosina Norris born June Quarter 1856
ALL CENSUSES ARE FOR BISHOPSTONE - NORTH WILTS
1841 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
East Brook
William Norris; 30; Ag Lab; born in Wiltshire
Sarah Norris; 31; born in Wiltshire
Charles Norris; 10; born in Wiltshire
George Norris; 8; born in Wiltshire
Jane Norris; 6; born in Wiltshire
Mary Norris; 4; born in Wiltshire
Elizabeth Norris; 1; born in Wiltshire
1851 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
The Bottom
William Norris; Head; 40; Sawyer; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Sarah Norris; Wife; 41; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
George Norris; Son;18; Sawyer; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Mary Norris; Dau; 15; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Elizabeth Norris; Dau; 12; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Martha Norris; Dau; 8; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Ann Norris; Dau; 6; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Sarah Norris; Dau; 4; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Eliza Phillis Norris; Dau; 1; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
1861 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
The Village
William Norris; Head; 50; Carpenter, Builder & Blacksmith (Master) employing 19 men; b.
Bishopstone, Wilts
Sarah Norris; Wife; 50; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Martha Norris; Dau; 18; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Ann Norris; Dau; 16; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Sarah Norris; Dau; 14; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Eliza Norris; Dau; 11; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Annetta Jane Norris; Dau; 9; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Ellen Rosina Norris; Dau; 4; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
William Norris; Grand Son; 3; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Samuel Ford; Lodger; Single; 47; Agricultural Labourer; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
1871 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
West End
William Norris; Head; 60; Carpenter (Builder) employing 6 men; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Sarah Norris; Wife; 60; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Eliza Norris; Dau; 21; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Annetta Norris; Dau; 19; Scholar; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Ellen R Norris; Dau; 14; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
William Norris; Grand Son; 13; Carpenter b. Bishopstone, Wilts
1881 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
West End House
Sarah Norris; Head; Widow; 70; Builder; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
William Norris; Grand Son; 23; Carpenter b. Bishopstone, Wilts
----------------------------BELOW:CHARLES AND ANNETTE ELIZABETH NORRIS BEFORE THE BIRTH OF THEIR SON
WILLIAM AND THEIR EMIGRATION.
1851 Census Bishopstone, Wiltshire
Joshua's Lane
Charles Norris; Head; 21; Sawyer; b. Bishopstone, Wilts
Elizabeth Norris; Wife; 20; Sawyer's Wife; b. Germany BS
Note: 'BS' next to a place of birth usually denotes British Subject. It looks on the image of
the Census form, that this wasn't information originally entered, but was added later presumably when the forms were being collated. I will send you the images of the actual
Census pages
--------There is a small Norris family tree on Ancestry.com at
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/5338847/person/1582115010/facts/facts
The tree owner seems to be a Duncan Norris, who possibly descends form George Norris
(a son of Charles and Annette Elizabeth).
He says that Annette Elizabeth was born on 13th March 1831 in Deu, Germany, but was a
British Subject. This theory is supported by the 1851 Census (above)
According to his tree Charles Norris was born on
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Carolyn
6/6/2013
Thank you Dot. You have been very helpful.
Duncan Norris who you mention is my mum's first cousin. (His father and my
grandmother are siblings)
Thanks, greatly appreciate the effort you have put into this response.
Susie
15/4/2013
I am researching a line in my famly history the Gumbletons. Henry Gumbleton (b 2-091810 at Bishipstone) and Married Jane Oxford (b 27-12-1810 at Compton Abbas, Dorset)
on 14-11-1843 at Longcritchill. Henry came out to Australia with his wife and two eldest
children in 1837 on the boat called Brothers as a farm servent to work at McCarthurs
farm, Camden, west of Sydney Australia. I am wondering if you have any information on
Henry when he was or may have lived at Bishipstone. Even some information on his
parents, (John was 53 years old when Henry was born??) John Gumbleton (b abt 1757 at
Bishopstone) and possibly married Elizabeth Arnold. If John Gumbleton did marry
Elizabeth Arnold, I noticed a photo on your website of a house once owned by a Richard
Aynold 1629. Is he a decendent to Elizabeth??
Thanks for your time. Susie
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John Needham ( Oldham, Lancs. )
10/8/2013
Hello,
I'm trying to track the Turner family and possibly living relatives in Bishopstone. My
grandad was called Charles Turner and was born, so I believe, in Bishopstone.
I should be most grateful for any positive information.
Thank you in advance for any help.
John Needham.
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Dot Gurd
10/8/2013
Hello John
I tried to send a message earlier but my computer crashed and I have no idea is the
website picked the text up. If you received a couple of detached sentences they were
mine!
Could you give me an apporximaate birth year for your grandfather and if possible the
first name of your grandmother (and hopefully her maiden name). There are several
Charles Turners born around the turn of the 19th cenrtury, but I have no way of knowing
if these might fit your dates.Any extra details might help solve the puzzle. If you could tell
me your father's first name, I would probably be able to make a start from there, as his
birth registration will give his mother's maiden name.
Dot
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John Needham
16/8/2013
Hello Dot,
I sent more info to you a few days ago but, I recieved a notice today that the message
failed. Anyway not to worry because since then a bit more info has come to light as
follows.
My maternal grandfather Charles Turner was born in Bishopstone in 1869 in October
November or December. A reference number came to light which is History Centre
BSTONE/10/330. It appears that my grandfathers mothers maiden name was Burrough.
My mum's name was Sarah born 1909 one of eight children all of whom seem to have
been born in the north of England.
This apparent connection with Wiltshire is fascinating as I always believed my maternal
grand parents were from Middleton in Lancashire.
I hope this added info helps and I very much appreciate your efforts.
Best Regards
John Needham
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Anne Cummings
9/12/2013
Hi Dot,
Thank you for the information on the Dibben Family. I had not read it and my brother-inlaw showed me. He must have been looking at this website and had seen it. I am quite
happy for you to pass my email on to Rosemary Nelson.
Thank you again.
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GinnyHB
12/1/2014
I am researching my Husbands family tree his Name was Alfred Johnston Compton Mother Harriet Compton. I understand that he was born in the village. I am not sure if
Harriet had been married to a Compton but she went on to marry Francis Case in about
1830. any information on the family would help me to expand the family tree.
Regards Janet
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Anna Burgess
25/1/2014
Hi, I am researching my family and would be interested in anyone looking for
WAGG/WAGGE/WAG, STADDEN/STRADDEN/STRATTON, and MUSSEL/MUSSELL. They all
have lived in Bishopstone from mid 1750's as far as I can see (from Parish Records in
Chippenham Archives). There is also a link to Broad Chalke - did folk move around much
then? Thanks,
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Matthew Butt
29/1/2014
My name is Matthew Butt, and I'm trying to do some genealogical research for my
family. As far as my family has been able to find out, we can trace our roots to a Walter
Butt, born 18 October 1719 in Bishopstone. His father and grandfather shared the same
name and were also both from Bishopstone. Our line ends with Walter's great
grandfather from Bishopstone named Matthew born sometime in 1670 (I share his
name). As far as we can tell, the Walter I first mentioned moved to Sutton Veny, and had
a son, another Walter (apparently a popular name in my family). This Walter, the one
born in Sutton Veny, had a son named George Jesse Butt, also from Sutton Veny, who
subsequently had a son in Sutton Veny on 22 November 1829, named Uriah Reed Butt
(my great, great Grandfather). I'm not sure if we have information on when Uriah
emigrated to the United States, but as far as we can tell, he's the first Butt to arrive in the
US--at least along our line.
If there is any information to confirm this information, or if anyone knows of any Butts
still in Bishopstone or Sutton Veny, and could share that information with me, that would
be great.
We're also curious of the roots of the Butt name. The oral history that my father recalls is
that the Butts of Bishopstone/Sutton Veny were doctor's whose houses "butted" up
against dueling grounds.
Of note, I noticed there's a Butt Lane in Bishopstone. I'm assuming there's a link, but
would be curious if there's a story behind that naming of this street.
Finally, I currently live in Spain, but I think you can gather that I'm an American. I'm
planning a short trip to England in March of 2014 and will be staying in Whiltshire for a
couple of days (16th through the 18th of March). It would be very exciting to meet up
with any of the Butts, if there are any still in the area, or to speak with anyone that could
assist in helping me gather some additional genealogical information along the Butt line.
Thanks in advance!
Matthew Butt
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Chris Lanham
31/3/2014
Hello there, I've been doing some research on my family who originally came from
Bishopstone. My wife and I will be travelling to the UK from Australia in July and I would
be very interested to have a look around the area to get a feel of where my ancestors
lived.
Below is the record of George Lanham and his family, I would very much appreciate it if
anyone had any details of the Lanham family from Bishopstone.
George Lanham
Birth 16 April 1781
Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Death 1838
Family Info
Father William Lanham (1746-1820)
Mother Hannah Newman (1774-)
Spouse Mary Hibberd (1782-1838)
Married 1805
Children
William (1807-1886)
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Steve Miltonlink
30/7/2014
Hi Dot,
Just got back from the WW1 ceremony in Tidworth. My son posted a cross in memory of
Jack Rich on the Warminster memorial. However, on checking him up online it seems he
is associated with Bishopstone. So, either way it is wrong. I think he might have lived in
Bishopstone in Swindon, but could be wrong. He served as an Able Seaman and was lost
in 1917. He was 22 at time of his death. Important that these boys are remembered
properly. Is Jack listed locally on the War memorial? It would be nice to get his details
right.
Steve and George Milton
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Dot Gurd
6/9/2014
Hi Steve
Jack Rich doesn't feature on our Bishopstone war memorial. However I think I have found
him in the Navy records via Ancestry.com. There was a Jack Rich, Able Seaman, born 17
November 1894 who served in the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve. 'Killed or died by
means other than disease, accident or enemy action' 16 December 1917. His 'Official
Port' was Sussex 6/108 (Po). His ship - SS Halifax. No grave recorded. A comment that
"Body not recovered for Burial". I wonder if he fell oveboard, but then that would have
been considered an accident - unless it wasn't accidental. His mother is given as Emily
Rich of 138 Rose Cottage, Bishopston, Sussex. There are quite a few Bishopstones in the
UK. Looks as though Jack should have been recorded in the Sussex one. I hope you can
find someone to help you with this in the Sussex village.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Jennifer Cole Heron
5/9/2014
Such a beautiful and green village! I look forward to visiting so I can research the family
history. I am interested at the moment in my paternal grandmother's family. Her
grandmother Eliza was born in 1834, the daughter of Abraham and Sarah Andrews. They
left for Australia in 1838 and took passage on the Woodbridge to NSW. I am wondering if
there would be any records.
Jennifer
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Dot Gurd
6/9/2014
Hello Jennifer
In the past I have transcribed the Parish Registers of Bishopstone and have quite a few
details of the Andrews family. I hope these will help.
Best wishes, Dot
The ANDREWS family
Marriage 30 March 1771 at Downton, Wilts
Jonathon Andrews (of Broad Chalke) married Jane Rook (of This Parish) after Banns
Their children - baptised at Downton, Wilts
31 Jan 1772 Peter Andrews son of Jonathon and Jane
26 Dec 1774 Hannah Andrews daughter of Jonathon and Jane
23 Jan 1776 John Andrews son of Jonathon and Jane
There may have been other children born between 1776 and 1790
Baptism at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone – the only one in the village for
Jonathon and Jane’s children
14 Jan 1790 William Andrews son of Jonathon and Jane
[NOTE - The IGI (Family Search) has a private submission saying this baptism above was a
'John Andrews'. I have films of the original Registers and the first name is written “Wm”
short for William.]
Burials at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
15 April 1818 Jonathon Andrews of Flamston age 77 Minister: Thomas Bromley
23 Jan 1826 Jane Andrews of Bishopstone Farm age 78 Minister: G A Montgomery
Some private 'family trees' on the internet have Abraham Andrews (1808) as the son of
Jonathon and Jane. This is incorrect. As you can see below, he was the son of Peter and
Susan/Susanna
No marriage in Bishopstone for Peter Andrews, but I am sure this is the correct one.
Peter Andrews married Susanna Munday 4 March 1793 Downton, Wilts
The Bride was recorded as being a spinster 'of This Parish'
The Groom recorded as a bachelor residing in Homington (where the banns were read)
but 'of Bishopstone'
Baptisms of their children at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
10 Nov 1793 George Andrews son of Peter and Susannah
25 Oct 1795 Hannah Andrews daughter of Peter and Susannah
3 April 1798 Stephen Andrews son of Peter and Susannah
4 Jan 1801 John Andrews son of Peter and Susannah
11 March 1804 Elizabeth Andrews daughter of Peter and Susanna
2 Nov 1806 Jane Andrews daughter of Peter and Susan
24 Nov 1808 Abraham Andrews son of Peter and Susan
9 June 1811 William Andrews son of Peter and Susanna
27 Feb 1814 Peter Andrews son of Peter and Susan of Bishopstone Farm (labourer)
1 March 1818 James Andrews son of Peter and Susan of Bishopstone Farm (labourer)
The last two children were baptised by Rev. Thomas Bromley.
Before 1813 the name of the Rector or Curate wasn’t noted on the Register
Peter and Susanna are on the 1841 Census. They said they were born in Wiltshire. In this
Census people only had to say whether they were born in that county or not. Actual
places of birth weren't required.
Note: 'Ag Lab' was a shortened form of 'Agricultural Labourer' and widely used in all the
censuses.
In the 1841 Census ages for adults weren’t exact as they were mostly rounded up or
down to the nearest 5 years.
1841 Census Bishopstone, Wilts
Peter Andrews; 70; Ag Lab; born Wiltshire
Susan Andrews; 70; born Wiltshire
Abraham Andrews married Sarah Gibbs 20th Oct 1829 after Banns at St John the Baptist
Church, Bishopstone
Witnesses: John Gibbs, Josiah Case Minister: Rev. George Frampton
Baptisms of their children at St John the Baptist Church, Bishopstone
27 Feb 1831 Jane Andrews daughter of Abraham and Sarah of Bishopstone Farm
(occupation: labourer)
14 Dec 1834 Eliza Andrews daughter of Abraham and Sarah of Faulston (occupation:
labourer)
11 Feb 1838 George Andrews son of Abraham and Sarah of Flamston (occupation:
labourer)
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John Durham
18/1/2015
Dear Dot, I have read these pages with interest as I am researching my 'Norris' Family
Tree. In common with your correspondent Carolyn my Great Great Great Grandparents
were William & Sarah Norris of Bishopstone in the North of the county near Swindon. I
indeed have a photograph of each of these ancestors and I have found your additional
information of great interest, thank you
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Dot Gurd
30/5/2015
Hello John.
Sorry I have taken a while to reply. I'm afraid I can't help you as this website is for
Bishopstone south Wilts, which is near Salisbury and Wilton. However, if you go to the
website of the Wiltshire Online Parish Clerks at www.wiltshire-opc.org.uk you will see
that the volunteer OPC for Bishopstone north Wilts is John Pope. Leave a message for
John and I am sure he'll do what he can to help. Best wishes, Dot Gurd, OPC for
Bishopstone south Wilts
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Carol Ouellet
4/3/2015
I am wondering if you could help me identify the Elizabeth Goff who married William
Wright in Bishopstone South on 6 Feb 1786. The only baptism I can find in the relevant
time period is that of an Elizabeth Goaff on 2 Sep 1764 at Bower Chalke. Do you have any
information on Elizabeth? I believe that William was the son of William Wright, b. 1743,
and Mary Pinney or Penny.
Thank you.
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Dot Gurd
30/5/2015
Hello Carol
I have looked through all of the Bishopstone Parish Registers and I'm afraid there is no
trace of Elizabeth Goff and her family - apart from the record of the marriage to William
Wright. There was a baptism for a William Wright on 19 April 1767, son of William and
Mary, which fits into the right time period. Bowerchalke is only a few miles up the valley
from Bishopstone and there were frequently marriages between nearby villages, so it is
likely that Elizabeth 'Goaff' is the right one, although of course we cannot say this for
certain unless other evidence can link them. I'm sorry that I can't be of more help.Good
liuck with your research, Dot Gurd.
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Peter Scott (son of Dorothy Lanham)
11/4/2015
Not a reply but further to a earlier blog (also 2nd cousin to Chris Lanham who also
blogged earlier)...still looking for comments re George Lanham, our common ancester.
Also..our Lanhams were blacksmiths/carriers...any help with the LOCATION of the
blacksmith shop in Bishopstone, please and comments about past blacksmiths. I notice
an old pub "The Three Horshoes"..near to the blacksmiths perhaps???
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Dot Gurd
4/5/2015
For Susanne Shoemaker
Hello Susanne. I am very sorry that you have had to wait so long for a reply. My apologies
too, to everyone else who has also had to wait. Due to health problems I haven't been
able to involve myself in research for several months. I am now able to pick up the
threads and will be replying to everyone in the near future.
As for your Bishop ancestors, Susanne, I am afreaid they have no connection with this
Bishopstone which is near Salisbury and Wilton in south Wiltshire. I believe that they
might have had connections to the 'other' Bishopstone which is in north Wiltshire near
Swindon. Have you searched the Wiltshire Archives list of Wills ? There are more than
200 Bishop family Wills held there and many are from North Wilts. You can access the
index of the Wiltshire Wills project at http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/heritage/index.php
Searching the index is free and either the images of, or 'hard copies' of the Wills can be
purchased online. I hope that the Wills will help you to get further in the hunt for your
family.
Best wishes, Dot Gurd
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Lanham Family Bishopstone
25/5/2015
Hi Everyone
Looking for any living members of the Lanham families from Bishopstone. My most
recent connection to this family in my tree is Hannah Lanham b 1779 married to Isaac
Blanchard in Bishopstone.
My biggest issue seems to be locating the marriage of Ann Loxley to William Lanham in
Bishopstone?? I am unsure if this is correct?? I am also trying to connect this Ann Loxley
to Henry Loxley and Elizabeth Bodenham.
If anyone is able to help with any information it would be greatly appreciated.
I am also planning a trip to Bishopstone and I am wondering if there are a number of
Lanham graves located in the village??
Would appreciate any help with any of these questions.
Thanks Kerry
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Chris Lanham
25/5/2015
Hi Kerry
I went to Bishopstone last year and did find some graves at the Church, I also met up
with a relative there David Lanham. I'm away at the moment, but when I get home I'll dig
out some info. I've really got the same questions as you appear to have in relation to the
Loxley connection.
Regards
Chris Lanham
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Kerry Wheeler
28/5/2015
Hi Chris
Thanks for replying to this. I would appreciate any information about this section of the
tree.
Thanks
Kerry
Sue Robinson
Hello, I am trying to find information regarding my ancestors. Mary Ann WAGG, daughter
of William WAGG and Ann MUSSELWHITE who married William RANDALL, they are my
great great grandparents.
In the 1841 census Mary Ann age 5 is living with her mother Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE)
age 27 and a William WAGG age 70. Could this William be Mary Ann’s father? I believe
that this William born in 1771 was previously married to Elizabeth ? and she died in 1803,
he then married Mary EMM in 1804 and she died in 1817.
Also on the 1841 census there is a William age 40 and Sophia WAGG in Bishopstone. I
have found birth information on line that shows a William Wagg born 1800 but do not
know who the parents are. I am wondering if he was the son of William and Elizabeth?.
I found a George WAGG born in 1793 to William WAGG and Elizabeth, could this William
be the same William that is shown in the 1841 census with Mary Ann age 5? Could he
and the William born in 1810 be brothers?
I believe William and Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE) also had a son called George born in
1838. I can't find the other George born in 1793 on the 1841 census. If William was
married to Elizabeth ?, Mary EMM and Ann MUSSELWHITE, could William and Elizabeth’s
son George have died and William and Ann MUSSELWHITE named their son George?
John WAGG son of William and Ann MUSSELWHITE was baptised on 3 October 1841 and
the record states that his father was William WAGG a labourer. The 1841 census with
Mary Ann age 5 was taken in April, so her father must have been living at that time.
A William WAGG died in 1844 age 77. Ann WAGG (MUSSELWHITE) married Henry
STRATTON in 1845.
I know this all sounds confusing but am hoping that someone might have some
knowledge of the WAGG family. Many thanks. Sue.
Susan Robinson
7/8/2015 12:24:03
Hello
This is an update to the post I submitted yesterday. I am wondering if the marriage
shown below could be for the William WAGG, which in the 1841 census was living with
Ann WAGG (MUSSEL) and her daughter Mary Ann WAGG.
Name: William Wagg
Marriage Date: 4 Jun 1792
Parish: Martin
Residence: Bishopstone
Spouse: Elizabeth Staples
Spouse Residence: of This Parish
Document Type: Banns
Could the death below be for Elizabeth WAGG (STAPLES), who married William as above.
Place Bishopstone (Wilton)
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type
Burial date 11 Dec 1803
Burial person forename Elizabeth
Burial person surname WAGG
I believe the following marriages could be for the same William WAGG.
Place Bishopstone (Wilton)
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type
Marriage date 24 Jan 1804
Groom forename William
Groom surname WAGG
Groom condition Widower
Groom abode Of This Parish
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname EMM
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Of This Parish
Witness1 forename Mary
Witness1 surname HIBBERD
Witness2 forename John
Witness2 surname YOUNG
Notes Officiating Minister Robert NOYES Curate; Banns
Name: Ann Mussell
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1836
Parish: Bishopstone (south)
Residence: of This Parish
Spouse: William Wagg
Spouse Residence: Bishopstone (south)
Document Type: Banns
In the 1841 census the other William WAGG age 40 a Carrier, is shown with his wife
Sophia WAGG (PENNY). In the 1871 census William WAGG age 70 Retired Carrier
birthplace Dorset, is shown with his wife Edna WAGG HIBBERD, marriage below. Sophia
WAGG died in July 1867.
Name: William Wagg
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Wilton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this
Registration District
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 327
Records on Page: Name
Edna Hibberd
William Wagg
I found birth information for a William WAGG born in Dorset, parents William and
Elizabeth WAGG. I wonder if they were William and Elizabeth STAPLES, whose marriage is
at the top of this page shown below Could this be the William that married Sophia
PENNY and Edna HIBBERD.
Name: William Wagg
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Apr 1800
Christening Place: Cranborne, Dorset, England
Father's name: William Wagg
Mother's name: Elizabeth
I also found information regarding the birth of a Sara WAGG, born in Dorset, see below.
She is probably the sister of the above William.
Name: Sarah Wagg
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1798
Christening Place: Cranborne, Dorset, England
Father's name: William Wagg
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Did this Sarah marry George SNOOK in 1849?
Could the William and Sarah WAGG, born in Dorset, have the same father as Mary Ann
WAGG, whose mother was Ann MUSSEL and William WAGG?
Many thanks.
Sue
Susan Robinson
11/8/2015 10:06:12
Hi
I am trying to find out if Maria MUSSELL, shown below, whether she migrated to
Australia and married Thomas CASE. I am hoping that someone in Bishopstone might
have some information regarding the family. I have added some information that I have
located on various websites.
Name: Maria Mussel
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1818
Baptism Place: Bishopstone By Salisbury,Wiltshire,England
Father: John Mussel
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 950237
Parents John Muzzlewhite Mussel, Mary Percy
Marriage 1 Oct 1838 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia to Thomas Case
Name: Thomas Case
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Muzzlewhite
Marriage Date: 1838
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1838
Thomas case died 8 April 1860 Gundaroo, New South Wales, Australia
Marriage Maria age 47 to John Hardwick 1865
Maria death age 73 11 Nov 1891 Gundaroo, New South Wales, Australia
Death John HARDWICK age 81 13 Nov 1899 Yass, New South Wales died
Many thanks Sue Robinson