Tim Lai Points to be Made www.pointstobemade.com Photo © Kevin Marshall Total beginners Basic BAEC knowledge Advanced knowledge Hopefully everyone learns something today! Explanation of Tier Point system Collecting Tier Points Use of Avios on British Airways Other uses ◦ LHR-DME in First Class ◦ CX around Asia “Give a man a fish, feed him for a day… Teach the man to fish, feed him for a lifetime” You get some fish, but also learn how to do it! Advanced Tier Point running (20 mins) Taxes, Fees and Surcharges (15 mins) Maximum Permissible Mileage (5-10 mins) Free form discussion (15 mins) Feel free to ask questions any time! Relies on combination of “Instant Upgrade” and cheap business class fares. ALWAYS consider auxiliary cost. ◦ Hotels/accommodation ◦ Food ◦ Opportunity cost – annual leave, time with family. Keep referring to Flyertalk. ◦ Bit.ly/BATPruns American Airlines and US Airways Best origins are big cities that aren’t hubs, but close to one. ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] Best destinations to look for… Anywhere with bad safety!: ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] If East to West coast (and v.v.), ignore flights stopping in DFW. VERY short Minimum Connection Time ◦ AA does not have to give you First Class if rebooked. ◦ You can request fares and Tier Points from original routing though! American Airlines main hubs ◦ DFW, LAX, JFK, MIA, ORD US Airways main hubs ◦ CLT, PHX, PHL Buy during Premium Fare sales ex-Europe (Easily 1000+ TP for around €1500-2000). ◦ Ask Kevin about his DUB-LCY-SNN-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHXJFK-LCY-DUB adventure. 1340TP for £1368 = £1.02/TP. Find your itinerary on ITA Matrix and book by phone. You’ll go crazy booking it online. Watch out for AA/BA/IB/AY/US codeshares on domestic USA flights. VERY important to put it into AA/US marketed flight. Prices more stable and easier to find than Americas Cathay Pacific ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] Malaysia Airlines – Kuala Lumpur ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] CX/MH business class service is FAR superior to AA/US. Each destination in Asia is interesting in its own right. Can’t say the same about USA. ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] Most TP Runs in Europe go through LGW, and often through JER. ◦ JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER ◦ JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER ◦ AMS-LGW-AMS Airports like JER, AMS and FRA do not separate inbound and outbound passengers at gate. Very easy turnaround Not as lucrative as America, Asia and Europe. British Airways 5th Freedom DOH – BAH in First class Qatar Airways ◦ [ Removed. For participants only ] Next topic… Anywhere between 5-99% of the airfare! Most people call YQ or YR “Fuel Surcharge”, but it’s called “Carrier Imposed Fee” by BA. You have to pay them if redeeming Avios. ◦ Some notable exceptions… Intra-Americas journeys Intra-Asia Domestic Japan Free positioning flight to Jersey, UK Aer Lingus and Air Berlin for TATL Air Berlin for Germany -> Abu Dhabi ◦ New York to Toronto ◦ Any flight under 650 miles. ◦ HKG to most of Far East Asia is max 10,000 Avios each way in Y. ◦ No Taxes!!! ◦ No Air Passenger Duty payable ex-JER ◦ AB is £1 in tax! Raised by price of fuel, hardly ever lowered. Still some regions or cities where YQ is low No specific pattern, but in general… Europe <-> North America ◦ AB and EI ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB. Europe <-> South America ◦ IB no surcharge! Transfer BA Avios to IB. North America <-> South America ◦ No YQ Europe <-> Asia MH, CX, QR usually lower than BA Intra - Middle East ◦ Nearly all routes low YQ (under €100 for r/t) Europe <-> Middle East ◦ QR and BA usually lowest Next topic… In a nutshell, how far you’re allowed to fly on a single ticket. MPM exists because not everywhere has nonstop flights between 2 cities. Easy to understand and exploit. Good place to start “travel hacking”. Economy class sales! ◦ Typically base fare is <€100. I have seen £1 before! ◦ MPM does not affect YQ, but might add extra government/airport charges. ◦ Best to do as many transfers in USA as possible. ◦ Limit EU transfers. (Taxes too high) Ticketed Point Mileage = Great Circle distance between two cities. E.g. AMS-SFO 5473 miles Maximum Permissible Mileage = TPM + 20%. MPM of AMS-SFO = 5473 x 1.2 = 6568. IB/BA/AA/US/AY Europe <-> USA flights governed by MPM Rules. Use KVS tool or Expert Flyer to find routing rules MPM of AMS-SFO = 6568 MPM+5% = 6896 MPM+10% = 7225 MPM+15% = 7553 MPM+20% = 7881 MPM+25% = 8210 Just pay additional X% to the BASE FARE E.g. if Base Fare is £50, and you fly MPM+25%, you pay an extra 0.25*£50 = £12.5 Total 8085 miles <1.25*MPM Valid routing! If you enjoyed the talks today, or even my blog, please consider using the affiliate links bit.ly/amexgoldnl Any questions? Feedback always welcome Contact me any time: info@pointstobemade.com