ECMO application: ruled implementation or free diffusion?

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ECMO application:
ruled implementation or free diffusion?
Milan
2012
Palle Palmér
ECMO Centrum Karolinska
Karolinska University Hospital, Stockholm Sweden
If we look at Stockholm development
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Neonatal
Pediatric
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Adult
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vårddygn
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Europa
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Stockholm
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År
ECMO Centrum Karolinska
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ECMO is a simple technic
But not that simple
You need to know a lot of
Cannulas, oxygenators, oxygen delivery and consumption,
carbon oxide, coagulation
Interrelation between ECMO circuit, the ventilator and the
CVVHDF machine
The doctor and nurses in charge has to know this 24/7
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One doctor has to be totally responsible
The week has 168 hours
In Saturday morning at 4 am you have to have one experienced
doctor to handle problems.
It not enough with one interested doctor in the ward daytime for
40 hours a week. At least he/she has to be dedicated to come
in the other 128 hours too.
ECMO is not run by itself for 128 hours a week.
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We have to make a different between
Cardiac and Respiratory ECMO
Cardiac ECMO should probably be done in all thoracic surgical
departments.
Most of these patients comes from the operation table and
need a short term assistance.
If the patient get a lung edema it will be complicated and take
much more time.
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Multistage cannulae
v.cava.sup low saturation
v.cava.inf high saturation
MRI Jonas A Lindholm
Respiratory ECMO
Needs volume and centralization
Long run ECMO 15- 60 days
Much more maintenance – circuit change and clotting problems
Totally whiteout lungs makes the safety marginal to 30 seconds
Low saturation
How to ventilate
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Burn patient consuming 450 ml of oxygen per minute
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68 days run with saturation of 65%
in 45 days
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Arterial sat
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Venous sat
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Multi-Organ-failure
Decreased urine output
Increasing liver values
Low blood pressure
RIGHT SIDED HEART FAILURE -
Convert to V-A ECMO
Hemolysis – clotting in the circuit -
Solve that problem
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Does volume make different ?
In a low volume unit less then 10 patient per year , less then 150
days per year, you need much more assistance from
perfusionists.
It will be more expensive
Lack of perfusion capacity for the operation
Lack of beds in the thoracic intensive care
Less persistence
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In normal or thoracical ICU
High volume center, at least one ECMO case every day of the
year in the ward. It’s a normal part of the ICU treatment.
The safety will be in the walls due to dedicated nurses and
doctors experience.
Much more persistence.
Possible to have the patients awake.
Possible to learn how to solve problems.
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ELSO reports July 2012
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The big well developed ECMOcenters
Reports survival rate of 70-80%, Stockholm and Leicester, even
with mean p/F ratios of 50 and 65.
That means that the smaller centers have an survival rate of
about 50%
It´s also possible that the experience centers takes more odd
cases.
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Mean p/f ratio 1995 – 2008
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A new indication
Septic shock
SAPPS III scoring 2012
10 patient with septic shock mean 80 points
Mortality risk of 85%
Low leucocytes declining to < 2
”ALARM ALERT”
Inotropic index > 100
Cold sepsis in some of them - amputation
Survival rate 80%
V-A ECMO because of cardiogenic shock
Trauma is an undeveloped field
No heparin until they stop bleeding
The Problem is that the major trauma cases don’t die within 1-2
hours.
They are still alive 10 hours later, and we empty the blood bank,
and the surgeons are tired
You can pack the thoracic cavity, to stop bleedings
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10 million people per ECMO center
You will have respiratory ECMO
40 -50 adult patient per year
mean 15 days ( 7-60 days)
30-40 pediatric patient
mean 15 days ( 7-60 days)
30-40 neonates
mean 7 days ( 4-30 days)
You need an ECMO transport organization that can transport 24/7
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An high volume center
Can take the full advantage of the ECMO circuit
The goal is not to come off the machine
The goal is to have a healthy patient
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Pneumothorax
Don’t hurt the patient
First choice - stop ventilation in 2-3 days
Pleura drainage - Seldinger or Surgeon
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A very small pleuradrainage - 20 liter of
blood and 4 operations
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Maybe we should look at survival
as something obvious
Why did they die and was it preventable
Last 2 years 78 adult patient Sapps III mortality rate of 85%
17 patient died (22%)
5 patient we didn´t have a chance from beginning
5 patient in pseudomonas and fungus
4 intracranial bleeding septic embolus pre ECMO
3 intracranial bleeding due to the ECMO treatment
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When you look at the pump and as your best
friend then you are a mature ECMO unit
Learn everything about the
pump oxygenators tubings and cannulaes
Train,train,train
Be careful
Be patient
Be trained
Don’t solve problems that doesn’t have to be solved
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