Meeus and Raaijmakers were critical of
Milgram’s research.
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They thought parts of it were ambiguous – for example, the participants were told the shocks were not dangerous and yet the shock generator said Danger severe shock
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They also thought that giving shocks was an old fashioned way of punishing people!
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Thought participants may not have actually believed they were doing any harm to other person.

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Were to look at obedience in a more up to date way i.e. in more realistic circumstances
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They thought psychological violence was more realistic than physical violence
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They wanted their participants to victim believe they were doing definite harm to the

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They wanted to find out if their two variations would reduce obedience as
Milgram’s variations did.
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The experimenter absent variation
The two disobedient peers variation

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Took place in a modern university in Holland
Experimenter: about 30 years, friendly but stern
Sample
Original experiment: 39 participants aged between 18 and 55
Education: at least high school education
Answered a newspaper advertisement
Participants were paid $13
BUT - Sample included both men and women

 Participants believed that the Psychology department had been commissioned to select candidates for a job
 Each applicant was to take a test, which would be administered by the participants
 The participants were given the role of
‘interviewer’ and ordered to harass a ‘job applicant’ (actually a confederate) to make him nervous while sitting the test to determine if he would get the job.

39 participants
24 participants in the experimental group
15 participants in the control group

You will be the interviewer and your role will be to harass the job applicant to make him nervous and test achievement

You will have to
Poor performance on will be read out to you in four
The job applicant (confederate of the experimenter)

The readings start at 15 which is normal and go up to 65 which and displayed on this panel

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Participants were told to make a series of
15 increasingly distressing remarks to the interviewees
Ranged from “your answer to question 9 is wrong” (the mildest) to “according to the test it would be better for you to apply for lower functions – this job is too difficult for you” (the harshest)

This job is too difficult for you. You are only suited for lower functions
My answer was not wrong was carry on with this interview

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Were given instructions to make remarks but were not told they would need to make all 15
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Could choose when to make the negative statements
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Could stop making them at any time during the test

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The stooges showed signs of increasing distress throughout the interview
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Two-thirds of the way through the test the
‘interviewee’ accused the researchers of giving false information and withdrew his consent to continue
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Participants were told to ignore outbursts and continue with remarks

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Remember Milgram’s!
Experimenter sat in on interview
If the participants refused, they were given a series of four prods similar to those in the Milgram experiment
A participant who made all the stress remarks was seen as obedient and those who refused to make all the stress remarks disobedient

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The applicant was not real! He was an actor!
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He was not really stressed!
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The machine was not real – the applicant did not really get stressed and make mistakes – it was all a cunning plan to see how obedient the participant was!

Do you think more or less people obeyed in this study compared to Milgram’s???

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The Dutch participants 20 years later were
MORE obedient than Milgram’s were!
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Milgram found 65% of participants were obedient up to 450 volts.
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Meeus found 92% of participants were fully obedient and made all 15 harassing remarks.
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In control condition – NO participants made all
15 remarks

and they found similar results………….
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When the experimenter left the room obedience dropped to 23% in Milgram’s study and 36% In Meeus’
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With disobedient peers (two present who refused to say remarks) obedience dropped to
10% in Milgram’s study and 16% In Meeus’

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People in an everyday situation like a job interview will generally obey orders to abuse a stranger psychologically
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Rates of obedience were higher than in the Milgram study, as might be expected, as people believed they were upsetting rather than physically hurting someone

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Meeus and Raaijmaker’s provide evidence for
agency theory!
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When the experimenter left the room the participants had to take responsibility for their actions and obedience dropped.
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When the experimenter was present the participants acted as their agent and most felt it was the experimenter's responsibility not theirs!