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Microsoft's Remote Desktop is incredibly convenient. It's the next best thing to physically
being in front of the target computer-- and it's by far the fastest remoting protocol I've
ever used. Over a fast network, you can almost convince yourself that you're using the
local machine. Remote desktop is great stuff, and it's basically free. It does have a few
annoying limitations, though:
1. it insists on treating every remote login as a separate user session. Except in the
special case where you log into your own session.
2. it can't handle multiple monitors in any way; you'll only see the primary monitor.
Fortunately, UltraMon has a convenient one-click taskbar enable/disable function
for the alternate monitors. It even remembers the position of windows when
moving them back.
3. in fine Microsoft tradition, it's intentionally crippled. You can only have one active
Remote Desktop session under XP, and two sessions under Windows 2003/2000
server. I suppose this is to keep us from setting up our own OS/360 timeshare
boxes.
Point #1 is in stark contrast to "old school" remoting programs such as pcAnywhere and
Carbon Copy, which simply displayed whatever happened to be on the client's
screen-- sort of like virtual video adapters. Sometimes, this is what you want. And in
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those situations, you want TightVNC. VNC follows the older model of simply showing
whatever is on the screen with no forced logins required. Of course, this has security
implications; if you remote into a machine that an Administrator is logged into, you'll
effectively be an Administrator. And if you're both trying to use the computer at the
same time, it's even more fun!
VNC has been around for years in various incarnations; what makes TightVNC so useful
is that it's free, natch, but more importantly, it implements a video hook driver. One
of the long-running historical weaknesses of the VNC protocol was that it didn't interface
at the video driver level with Windows; it had to poll for screen changes. This works, and
it's a very cross-platform approach, but it's also hellaciously inefficient and highly CPU
intensive. Why poll for changes when the video driver can tell you what the changes
were? When you download TightVNC, be sure to download the "developmental" version
(at the time of writing, 1.3d7) and the dfrimage.zip video hook driver.
Even with this hook driver, it isn't as fast as Remote Desktop, but it's at least in the
ballpark. If you ever used VNC in the past and were disappointed with how slow and
CPU intensive it was, you should try again with TightVNC and the video hook driver.
There's a world of difference.
If you're feeling really adventurous, there's even an open-source C# VNC client.
TightVNC implements a few specially optimized protocols of its own, but it does support
the "classic" VNC protocols as well. I was able to remote into a TightVNC server using
this C# client.
Unfortunately, neither Remote Desktop nor VNC does a good job of handling multiple
monitors on the target machine, so that's a wash. You'll get the primary monitor, and
you'll like it. There is some support for multimon in the latest versions of pcAnywhere,
as this review at RealTimeSoft points out.
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Note that a few key sequences, such as CTRL+ALT+DEL, can't be intercepted by any
remote desktop client, even in fullscreen mode. There's a handy list of keyboard
shortcuts for the Remote Desktop key equivalents in the online XP resource kit.
Incidentally, there are hardware-level remote desktop solutions which are capable of
remotely displaying BIOS setup screens-- even the Blue Screen o' Death! Pretty gnarly
stuff.
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JeremyB
56 replies
July 2005
My beef with Remote Desktop is that when you login I believe, it will log out the existing
user. My users don’t know their passwords (we use auto-login, yes I know it sucks) and
this was a major PITA. Plus there was really no way to get to their session to see what they
were seeing at any time. I believe this is “Remote Assistance” which is basically the same
thing, but different. I never quite understood the differences so I went to UltraVNC myself
(after trying Tight and others).
UltraVNC is a little better than tight for a couple of reasons.
1. File transfer built into the client. I had this with PCAnywhere and I had to get an
equivalent before we could get rid of the bloatware known as PCAnywhere.
2. UltraVNC supports Active Directory integration. I have a VNCAccess group and I add
people to that at will so they can use their login and won’t have to remember
something different.
3. Session Encryption. It did not work well with the AD integration but maybe that’ll be
fixed later. There was some good reason I chose not to use it but I can’t for the life
of me remember it. Most likely because it was a little overkill for all of our private
addresses behind a NAT firewall but would be perfect for a publically accessable PC.
I will agree that the multiple monitor thing really stinks but no one in my office (including
me) used multiple monitors. It doesn’t make too much sense from a computer standpoint
though because you should be able to access any program on the computer regardless of
monitor. A program in the taskbar shouldn’t be tied to one specific monitor and should
be able to be manipulated regardless of how VNC or Remote Desktop accesses it.
I probably don’t understand the problem enough to get why it’s an issue. In my mind it
shouldn’t be, but there’s probably some lame technical implementation that is getting in
the way of my utopian vision.
mbg
July 2005
I think this only works under Win2k/2k3 Server, and only under specific conditions…
It only works on Win2k3… I don’t think it will work on Win2k.
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dax
July 2005
It only works on Win2k3… I don’t think it will work on Win2k.
You are right it will not work with Win2k as Remote desktop was first introduced with XP
PRO+ (home addition does not support it). However you can download the client and run
on Win2k.
UltraVNC also my choice for non XP Pro +…
RyanM
July 2005
There is also UltraVNC with supports screen scaling and file transfers (TightVNC has
added file transfers in the dev version too). Only thing is that UltraVNC doesn’t have a
Linux server version. Also, be wary of the hook driver. Starting with XP SP2 we started
getting blue screens with the IRQ NOT LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO until it was removed.
Not on every machine, but enough that we stopped installing the hook driver on client
machines. Actually, now that I think about it, I think it was mostly on TabletPCs. Your
mileage may vary.
Remco
July 2005
“Note that a few key sequences, such as CTRL+ALT+DEL, can’t be intercepted by any
remote desktop client, even in fullscreen mode.”
Using Remote Desktop Client, you can send these combinations to the remote machine.
When making a connection, check the tab “Local Resources”, and set the keyboard to “On
the remote computer”.
codinghorror
July 2005
You are right it will not work with Win2k as Remote desktop was first introduced with XP
PRO+
I think there might be a bit of confusion here, we were talking about Win2k Server not
Win2k Pro. It’s called “Terminal Services” in Windows 2000 Server, and you can definitely
connect to it using the Windows XP Remote Desktop client…
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DavidF
July 2005
SC UltraVNC is also incredibly useful. It’s a packed EXE version of UltraVNC server that
does a reverse connection to a listener without having to be installed. Why? Because I
distribute it to all my customers, and they are a double-click away from connecting back
to me at the office for remote tech support. It’s small, light and fast enough even without
the video hook driver. You can build your own at: http://sc.uvnc.com/index.php?
section=12.
Kurt_​​Frank
July 2005
It is a little misleading to say that tightVNC (or by association RealVNC, UltraVNC and
others) are not secure. At the very least there is always a username password verification
that is required for a VNC connection. There is also ways to set up a SSL tunnel scenario
with VNC.
Also I use UltraVNC almost every day and have no problem VNCing into a system with
multiple monitors.
And due to the nature of Ctrl-Alt-Delete there is always going to be some alternate
method for sending that key combination to a remote system. UltraVNC (and all the other
VNCs that I have messed with) have ways of sending this key combination to the remote
host.
Anywhat, I use both Remote Desktop and UltraVNC and if you can’t tell I prefer UltraVNC.
Bryan_​​Bates
July 2005
The latest (or near-latest) version of UltraVNC handles multiple monitors, too. I’ve had no
problems seeing all of a triple-headed setup remotely. (with scrolling, of course)
Dax​1
July 2005
“it insists on treating every remote login as a seperate user session”
Using the “/console” command line argument will start your existing console session if it
is running else it will start a new session
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codinghorror
July 2005
Actually, now that I think about it, I think it was mostly on TabletPCs
The video hook driver has worked OK for me on about a dozen machines, but none of
them were tablet PCs.
Also I use UltraVNC almost every day and have no problem VNCing into a system with
multiple monitors.
Right, it works, but you only see the primary monitor.
The latest (or near-latest) version of UltraVNC handles multiple monitors
SC UltraVNC is also incredibly useful. It’s a packed EXE version of UltraVNC server that
does a reverse connection to a listener without having to be installed.
Cool, I’ll have to check out UltraVNC!
codinghorror
July 2005
Using the “/console” command line argument will start your existing console session if it
is running else it will start a new session
I think this only works under Win2k/2k3 Server, and only under specific conditions…
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;278845
Dax​2
July 2005
Ah! yes you are so right :)…
Gary
July 2005
“…it insists on treating every remote login as a seperate user session.”
separate ! not seperate.
Sorry.
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Steve
August 2005
UltraVNC is actually quite secure. It has an encryption plug-in that VNCScan
(http://www.vncscan.com) can easily deploy and use. Without VNCScan, the encryption
plug-in can be troublesome to deploy but it’s only a $40 license to be able to use
VNCScan to manage your whole network. There is no per-computer charge like the other
solutions.
In addition, UltraVNC has built in Microsoft authentication that works with domains AND
with local computer accounts.
Also, it should be noted that once UltraVNC is deployed with the encryption enabled, the
tunnel starts before the password is sent so there is no chance for a man in the middle to
intercept your VNC password.
If you want to deploy a secure and full featured VNC solution on your network and don’t
want to shell out the $$$$$ for the enterprise version of VNC, You need to take a serious
look at VNCScan.
abc
August 2005
on remote desktop, CTRL+ALT+END works as if you’ve pressed CTRL+ALT+DEL.
codinghorror
August 2005
The latest (or near-latest) version of UltraVNC handles multiple monitors, too
UltraVNC is a little better than tight for a couple of reasons
You guys were sooo right. UltraVNC TightVNC.
I had some technical issues switching between Remote Desktop and TightVNC, as in, one
broke the other! UltraVNC has no such problems and adds some nice ameneties to boot.
UltraVNC it is, then!
joe_​boy
September 2005
1. Open Registry Editor (Start, Run, regedit).
2. Navigate to
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentCo
ntrolSet\Control\TerminalServer\Lic
ensing Core.
3. Create a new REG_DWORD value named EnableConcurrentSessions.
4. Set the value to 1.
5. Exit the editor.
You’ll then have support for two concurrent RDP sessions.
codinghorror
September 2005
Wow, that single-click reverse (eg, client connects to you) UltraVNC is very cool:
http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/addons/singleclick.html
Basically, you can customize it and distribute the tiny 166kb exe to any of your customers
that are having problems. It’s like a much, much easier version of Remote Assistance.
Shanti​1
October 2005
I cannot invoke a product application on a sytem when connected through RDC but able
to invoke application when connected through VNC. The error i am getting is “could not
get proper license file in the path is given” .When check the path given in message on the
connected sytem the lic file is present.
If i connect through VNC and invoke the application it is working fine.
Why is it happening so?
SingleU
November 2005
What about single user PC’s where the single user chooses not to have a password
because they can’t be bothered with the Welcome screen every time they reboot? How
can this type of user use Remote Desktop, given that RD seems to require a User Account
with password?
TechS
January 2006
I work with Ultra@VNC several times a day and with Remote Desktop a couple times a
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week. Out of the two, all things considered, I prefer Ultra@VNC. One of the things that I
think makes VNC better (especially for technical support) is the ability for both the local
and remote users to view the same screen and share the mouse, it makes explaining
things a lot easier and makes fixing problems a lot faster. There are several options
though: VNC (Real, Tight, Ultra, etc.), Remote Desktop, GoToMyPC, Terminal Services,
Citrix… to name a few.
Aero​Ed
January 2006
As I understand, with UltraVNC both people (i.e. server and client) can see the same
desktop… like pcAnywhere. What about Windows RDC? I have read that the session is not
displayed on the server monitor. Is there an option to enable the person on the server
side to observe what’s happening? I am deciding what solution to use. Maybe Window’s
Remote Assitance is what I’m looking for. Does anyone care to comment and compare.
Thanks.
MutlipleR
March 2006
“Plus there was really no way to get to their session to see what they were seeing at any
time. I believe this is “Remote Assistance” which is basically the same thing, but different. I
never quite understood the differences”
Remote Assistance will allow you to “shadow” the existing session. This means that the
current user is not logged out.
By default W2K TSE and 2003 Server both allow two concurrent connections in what they
call administrator mode. This allows the IT department to manange the servers without
having to go to the server room for everything little thing.
With both versions, you can install a license pack and have as many users connect to the
server as you like (make sure you have enough memory). Then an administrator can start
his (her) own session and run a TSEADmin execuatble that will list all the currently logged
in users and allow you to shadow them.
The system can be configured that the user must accept the shadow request, or allow
connection without them knowing. When you connect, their screen will have one quick
flicker and that is it.
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At work we deploy our product in a TSE environment and it works great. You can have a
very low end client running the remote desktop program connecting to the server to run
their app. Support can make their own connection and assist any user they want by
shadowing the session.
The shadow feature is also great for remote training.
RemoteS
June 2006
I’m a big fan of remote desktop protocol and thought it was a great plus when I learned
xp pro would have it. I’ve been using it since it first rolled out with the 2000 server. I use it
admin all my servers and even my customer’s servers where applicable.
MichaelK
October 2006
The steps at http://sig9.com/articles/concurrent-remote-desktop explain how to set up
Windows Xp to allow up to three concurrent logins at once. Appears to work OK ona
Windows XP PC with all updates.
RyanD
October 2006
I have remote users that need to have support by multiple technicians. The client clicks on
the application created by WinVNC to connect to the UltraVNC server listening on port
5900.
Once the viewer is executed, I have setup my windows 2003 server to listen to port 5900.
The connection is then established. However, I would like to add a few more techicians to
the server to allow multiple connections to the vnc server on separate terminal sessions. Is
there a way that you know of in order to redirect the VNC Server to the RDP sessions to a
specific Terminal Service session.
Please advise.
Thank you for your time.
Ryan Deschaine
RCS Technical Support
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ShakyaS
November 2006
I’ve no comment but have a question.
Is there any VNC Server built in C #
Chris
December 2006
There are other apps that can be use
www.gensortium.com Gencontrol works really well for me.
jlo
March 2007
I need to display a single main desktop to multiple remote viewers (around 10 remote
parties). (The scenario is a user wanting to share images to multiple remote specialists to
seek advice and support). There is no need for remote the viewers to control the machine
being viewed.
Can anyone suggest how this might be done. Sounds like neither remote desktop nor vnc
are good for this?
ChrisR
March 2007
I wouls also be interested in a VNC server in C# or VB.NET
Angel_​G
March 2007
I did a VPN connection to a remote machine (much slower than LAN), then used MS
Remote Desktop and Tight VNC (development version with mirage mirror driver). For my
surprise Tight VNC showed better responsiveness than MS Remote desktop. but on LAN
Remote Desktop is faster.
Neil
July 2007
I’m pretty new to using remote desktop, however I’ve found it really useful for using my
office computer using my laptop at home.
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one on the laptop and I didn’t have any problems working at home. In fact the way it
displays everything on the one screen and still remembers the location of the windows
and files when I came back to the office was handled far better than I thought.
Adam
July 2007
In answer to the questions about VNC and C# or VB…I found a solution. There is a
company called SmartCode Solutions that has a VNC Server and Client ActiveX control.
The website is:
http://www.s-code.com/
Adam
July 2007
To Answer jlo’s questions, you can not use VNC or RDP to share with 10 users but a good
product is Goto Meeting which does exactly that. It does however cost a monthly subscrip
fee.
Has anyone found a version of VNC in C# or VB? Would anyone be interested in teaming
up to develop one?
portuguesedanny
July 2007
Anyone want multiple RDP sessions on 1 (yes, thats one) XP Pro box!
(I’ve had this working gave up creating new sessions after * concurrent sessions
)
http://sig9.com/articles/concurrent-remote-desktop
Robert
August 2007
We’ve found the easiest tool for remote computer access:
Techinline Remote Desktop
http://www.techinline.com
Our support team has been using it for a year and have no any complaints about it. It’s
really amazing.
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SB​14
October 2007
Create a shortcut with this path:
hcp://CN=Microsoft%20Corporation,L=Redmond,S=Washington,C=US/Remote%20Assist
ance/Escalation/Unsolicited/Unsolicitedrcui.htm
Run it and the user will be prompted to allow an administrator to connect to their session.
From there you can remote control the users XP machine and still have them see what
you are doing. Works using remote assistance, but allows the administrator to initiate the
connection rather than waiting for the user to request assistance.
I think it may require some changes in group policy in a non SBS environment but with an
SBS domain it will work by default.
Tom
January 2008
There’s a way to increase the maximum number of connections to a Terminal Server,
running on Windows XP Professional.
Restart your computer in Safe Mode (Press F8 several times after the BIOS screen
disappears. And select Safe Mode)
Turn off/disable Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) and Terminal Services:
Right click My Computer
Select Properties
Click on the Remote tab at the top of the window
UNCHECK the box next to, “Allow users to connect remotely to this computer“
Click OK
Go to Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services
Find Terminal Services in the list
Right click on Terminal Services and click Properties
In the Startup Type box, select Disabled
Click OK to close the window
Now download this file:
http://members.lycos.nl/nessyh/files/termsrv.dll
Go to C:\Windows\system32\dllcache
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Rename the file termsrv.dll to termsrv_dll.bak or whatever you would like.
Copy the downloaded termsrv.dll file (the one you downloaded from the link) to
C:\Windows\system32\dllcache
Open the C:\Windows\system32 folder
Delete the file termsrv.dll in C:\Windows\system32
Copy the downloaded termsrv.dll file to this place too.
At last, we’ve to change some settings
Go to Start - Run and type regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal
Server\Licensing Core
Add a DWORD Key (Right click in a empty space to the right) named
EnableConcurrentSessions and give it a value of 1
Close the Registry Editor window
Go to Start - Run and type gpedit.msc to run the Group Policy Editor
Browse to Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows
Components - Terminal Services and double click Limit number of connections
Select the Enabled button and enter the number 3, which changes the maximum
rate of simultaneous connections to 3 (Higher isn’ possible)
Restart Windows
Right click My Computer and select Properties.
Click on the Remote tab at the top of the window
CHECK the box next to, “Allow users to connect remotely to this computer“
Click OK
Go to Start - Control Panel -Administrative Tools - Services. Select Terminal Services
from the list and double click it or right-click - Properties. Set the Startup Type to
Manual.
Restart Windows/Computer
david​28
June 2008
If you want to get multiple users, there’s a hack available for XP SP2 (and probably SP3):
http://sig9.com/articles/concurrent-remote-desktop
bincy_​babu
June 2008
just want tolist the number of users logged on to a particular server
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JamieB
July 2008
In my opinion, one of the best tools on the market these days is Techinline Remote
Desktop. The beautiful thing about it is the absence of any installation since it runs
through the web browser. You could also fully customize it, and it’s as simple as it gets for
the remote client to use. I’ve also read on their site that they’re planning a major upgrade
for this fall, and at that time will be adding a file transfer and some other features. But for
now it’s as good as it gets for $30 a month, and gets the job done. www.techinline.com Is
anybody else using it?
peterf
October 2008
If your like to make RDP/VNC work over internet using microsoft windows teredo
service(peer to peer connectivity) you can check this soft http://www.lanoninternet.com
Now you can RDP/vnc work behind NAT/firewall…Virtually u can connect with any
vista/XP PC with this service
Jeremy
October 2008
Any comments on NoMachine? http://www.nomachine.com/ The last I heard their
network useage was lower than RDP, but I have never tried it myself.
andy​17
December 2008
I used RealVNC for awhile on my dual monitor XP Pro box, it worked great, just gave me a
scroll bar and displayed the desktop as one really wide area. Unfortunately I don’t think
their viewer encrypts the initial key exchange unless you pay extra, so I just switched over
to TightVNC.
Jarmo
February 2009
VNC is the last port of call, not the first. Its performance is pitiful in comparison with RDP.
Sachin​4
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February 2009
great explanation thanks i never knew this much before thank you once again
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great explanation thanks…i never knew this much before…thank you once again
paul​27
March 2009
If you want a simple utility tool have a look at Veo Remote, it’s almost as fast as RDP on a
LAN and heaps faster than VNC. It’s not really designed as a remote admin tool though.
Alan
April 2009
I wanted to add one more program to the discussion that probably won’t get mentioned
otherwise. Proxy Networks came out with a a href=http://www.proxynetworks.comremote
control software/a bundle called Proxy Prop 6. I like this particularly as a business user
because it has very strict security standards. Also, they have a ton of usable options, such
as viewing a list of hardware that is on the computer. This makes troubleshooting much
faster. What do you guys think? Does anyone else have any experience with this or any
other enterprise-level remote desktop applications?
n​1178
July 2009
TeamViewer
internetm​2
August 2009
Isn’t team viewer more of a collaboration tool than a remote desktop program? I haven’t
used it but I’ve heard coworkers talking about it- please correct me if I’m wrong.
Cybeleproducts
August 2010
ThinVNC is another alternative: a pure web app that uses HTML5 to replace the old VNC.
Here you have a link to the product page. There’s a exe setup ready to be used, and
ThinVNC is free for non commercial use:
http://www.supportsmith.com/ThinVNC
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Maria​Jones
September 2010
We use RHUB’s TurboMeeting for Remote Support. It works with the UAC dialogs, it lets
you see the Windows login screens, and it allows you to reboot into and out of Safe
mode. RHUB sells an appliance so it’s just a one-time cost.
http://www.rhubcom.com/
K_​​Taylor
October 2010
UltraVNC is the greatest. The tough part is getting it to be reliable each and every time. I
read this article at VariableGHz which I used to set up all of my systems to have complete
VNC reliability for over a year now. Before the VGHz article, I struggled with DHCP IPs
almost daily.
Highly recommended.
-K
Thestormsurfer
March 2011
I’m so glad I don’t live in 2005, when the only operating system available was Microsoft
Windows.
Ripley
July 2011
At work we use ScreenConnect remote support software, though for personal use and
fixing Mom’s computer, I use Teamviewer.
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